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DisposableJustice
03-19-2014, 09:27 AM
Here it is in all its demo glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOtev3rEKI


First impressions: It's ok, it is a demo after all and not the finished product so I have to factor that in; but really meh like a song that didn't make the cut for DM. I feel like the underwhelming mix is part of it, it lacks punch. I will say James voice is pretty good, and Kirk's solo isn't bad.

detuned
03-19-2014, 09:41 AM
Metallica Talk Epic New Song 'The Lords of Summer' (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-talk-epic-new-song-the-lords-of-summer-20140317)

But while the song sounds fully crafted, Ulrich says things change. "We did the same thing when we went out and played a bunch of dates in 2006," he says. "We were writing and played two different new songs over the course of that summer, and none of them made the record [Death Magnetic]. One was called 'New Song 1' going out on a creative limb, here and the other was called 'New Song 2.' That's how deep we went. There was a couple of pieces in 'New Song 1,' some of the middle bit ended up in 'All Nightmare Long,' and the intro bit ended up in 'The End of the Line.' That's how we work; stuff just gets changed around, moved over and this goes over there and the rest of that gets sacked and that ends up in the intro in song five." [Laughs]

so i guess there is a chance this will be drastically different by the time it gets recorded

Onioner
03-19-2014, 10:51 AM
I gotta say, I really don't like the demo much when compared to the live version. James does sound good, but it's like he's forcing melodic parts where they shouldn't exist during the double bass bits. The energy level just seems a bit lower on this demo compared to what we heard live.

Ironically, if there's a major-label engineer that could stick them in a room and have them play live, hit record and capture them well, it is Greg Fidelman. Sucks that his mixes are so lame though.

anomynous
03-19-2014, 11:24 AM
Kurt Ballou please.



Won't happen, but......

detuned
03-19-2014, 12:23 PM
Kurt Ballou please.

Won't happen, but......

hah! (https://twitter.com/detuned/status/446335273945665536)

ravenheart
03-19-2014, 01:17 PM
This is still such an average song. It's like they bought themselves an Early Metallica For Dummies guitar book and made a song from the bits they learned.

MPF
03-19-2014, 01:28 PM
It's a decent song, I don't think Metallica is the band anymore if you wanna hear something mindblowing (unless like St. Anger or Lulu, mindblowingly bad)

If it is at least listenable, that should be noteworthy at this point in the game.

DisposableJustice
03-19-2014, 01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JTAlnnCJpk

The LiveMetallica version

Sounds much better live

hellawaits77ny
03-19-2014, 03:11 PM
I'm digging it. People still expect them to write another RTL or MOP it seems. Not going to happen.

mankvill
03-19-2014, 03:31 PM
People still expect them to write another RTL or MOP it seems.

I don't think anyone realistically expects that from Metallica at this point. Like 60 - 75 percent of Death Magnetic was fucking great, I just want them to improve on that formula, but unfortunately this song doesn't sound like that.

Travis The Dragon
03-19-2014, 04:26 PM
I'm really digging it and James's vocals sound fine to me. The melodic part at 5:25 to the solo is so sweet! So classic sounding! Also, they did say somewhere that the new album is going to be a continuation of Death Magnetic. I really enjoyed DM, but I hope they put even more of an old school sound into the new stuff.

Christen
03-19-2014, 04:42 PM
I like it. It seems like they are sticking with the Death Magnetic style which is all right by me.

TonyD
03-20-2014, 11:47 AM
This is what happens when guys in their 50s play thrash for the sake of supporting their millionaire lifestyles.

imanidiot777
03-20-2014, 11:54 AM
I think it is a pretty good song other than the production (which doesn't really matter since it is a demo). If they build on what they had with Death magnetic, I am OK with that, so long as the production is better and not so hollow.

kalfitegrdan
03-20-2014, 01:21 PM
Whatever, I like it more than most of the songs on Death Magnetic.

Natrlhi
03-20-2014, 02:53 PM
This is what happens when guys in their 50s play thrash for the sake of supporting their millionaire lifestyles.

Zing!

El Gordo
03-20-2014, 06:21 PM
The song is OK. It doesn't need to be 8 minutes long though. This is probably my biggest gripe with modern Metallica. Death Magnetic features 7 songs out of 10 that are over 7 minutes!! Why?! Yes, Lightning, Puppets and Justice all featured lots of lengthy songs, but they mostly had the chops to support the length. Metallica have declined as musicians and songwriters since that time -- considerably. Unless they're pulling out stuff like Bleeding Me or Outlaw Torn, I don't wanna see anything over 5:00.

DisposableJustice
03-20-2014, 06:28 PM
The song is OK. It doesn't need to be 8 minutes long though. This is probably my biggest gripe with modern Metallica. Death Magnetic features 7 songs out of 10 that are over 7 minutes!! Why?! Yes, Lightning, Puppets and Justice all featured lots of lengthy songs, but they mostly had the chops to support the length. Metallica have declined as musicians and songwriters since that time -- considerably. Unless they're pulling out stuff like Bleeding Me or Outlaw Torn, I don't wanna see anything over 5:00.

This, I agree 100%

Maybe we should send Lars a card stating this and cutting songs to 5 minutes or less = less drumming maybe he'll go for it

Steev
03-20-2014, 06:28 PM
It's too long, it could probably be assembled into a decent 4 minute song, but at like 8 and a half it just drags

hellawaits77ny
03-22-2014, 06:45 AM
I don't think anyone realistically expects that from Metallica at this point. Like 60 - 75 percent of Death Magnetic was fucking great, I just want them to improve on that formula, but unfortunately this song doesn't sound like that.

You're right, most don't. But there are still the idiots that expect 50 year old multi-millionaires to write the same quality music that angry 23 year old outcasts did.

Maideneer
03-22-2014, 10:13 AM
I have a lot of thoughts on it, but truthfully it's just a demo and I treat it as semi-screwing around. So I'll leave it as that and wait for the finished product to completely rip it apart. :)

AnthG
03-22-2014, 11:26 AM
Holy shit Hetfield's vocals are borderline cringeworthy.

MetalIsArt
03-22-2014, 11:31 AM
Holy shit Hetfield's vocals are borderline cringeworthy.

One word.

Demo. This won't even be on the album.

SomewhereInTime72
03-22-2014, 06:40 PM
Bored me.

I liked most of Death Magnetic, but this was ... boring, and dragged on for too long.

If the completed version is fixed up in other ways besides sound quality, it could be alright, though.

AnthG
03-23-2014, 08:37 AM
One word.

Demo. This won't even be on the album.

The fact that it's a demo doesn't change how his voice sounds. It sounds like a continued regression from Death Magnetic.

MetalIsArt
03-23-2014, 09:08 AM
The fact that it's a demo doesn't change how his voice sounds. It sounds like a continued regression from Death Magnetic.

Don't agree.

El Gordo
03-23-2014, 10:13 AM
The fact that it's a demo doesn't change how his voice sounds. It sounds like a continued regression from Death Magnetic.

I thought Hetfield's voice was one of the stronger points of the song. He sounds much better than he usually sounds live these days (which admittedly isn't saying much).

marker
03-23-2014, 10:17 AM
I thought Hetfield's voice was one of the stronger points of the song. He sounds much better than he usually sounds live these days (which admittedly isn't saying much).

He sounded great the last couple of times I saw them. I don't know why he gets so much shit for his vocals. I think most of the people who say that haven't even seen them.
And that's not directed towards you, I just wonder if we're talking about the same band sometimes.

Sanitarium78
03-23-2014, 11:33 AM
Demo or not, it's not that good of a song. It just sounds like something they threw together at the last minute so they would have a "new" song to play on the current tour. This song isn't even up to the standard of the worst song on Death Magnetic. Maybe the main riff sticks around but the song won't make the new album the way it is now.

MetalIsArt
03-24-2014, 12:41 AM
He sounded great the last couple of times I saw them. I don't know why he gets so much shit for his vocals. I think most of the people who say that haven't even seen them.
And that's not directed towards you, I just wonder if we're talking about the same band sometimes.

Agreed. Sure, it's not like it was in the eighties, but then again, he's no Ronnie. Nobody is. :boohoo:

MetalIsArt
03-24-2014, 12:56 AM
Demo or not, it's not that good of a song. It just sounds like something they threw together at the last minute so they would have a "new" song to play on the current tour. This song isn't even up to the standard of the worst song on Death Magnetic. Maybe the main riff sticks around but the song won't make the new album the way it is now.

Even the lyrics aren't "finished".

I thought that people knew the way they released/titled demo songs by now. Apparently not.

The first actual song they played from DM was Cyanide, and that was not that long before the album was released. @ Ozzfest 2008, if I'm not mistaken.

marker
03-24-2014, 09:02 AM
Agreed. Sure, it's not like it was in the eighties, but then again, he's no Ronnie. Nobody is. :boohoo:

I saw them twice in the eighties, he wasn't that good back then, at least at the shows I saw. I think he takes better care of his voice now, he takes it seriously and does the best he can. All I ever hear is James sucks, and the band sucks live now. If someone saw Metallica and James sounded bad, I believe it. I just find it hard to believe that he's that bad consistently. Also as a band they're much better live than everyone says.

hot_turkey_ed
03-24-2014, 12:26 PM
I listened to a little bit of this. It's a demo, and that's fine. What was I heard was ok.

The bigger problem is that I don't really care about Metallica much anymore. When a fan loses that passion, the music becomes diminished. For years and years, I've said if Iron Maiden covered Mary Had A Little Lamb, it would the best damn Mary I've ever heard. MARRRRRYYYY!!!!!

Metallica has just the opposite problem with me. I don't hate their music but it hasn't mattered much to me. My core Metallica playlist is called Metallica Schmetallica (Ecstasy Of Gold + all studio album + S&M in release order usually shuffled on playback). I think when I start to feel like Metallica cares again, perhaps I will too.

AnthG
03-24-2014, 12:31 PM
The sad thing is...I actually think they DO care. I think this is the best they can possibly do at this point.

hot_turkey_ed
03-24-2014, 01:08 PM
The sad thing is...I actually think they DO care. I think this is the best they can possibly do at this point.

Metallica has been together for something like 30 years. It's been a huge business for 2/3 of that. I'm not sure what exactly left for them to conquer with their music. It's really hard to maintain passion for anything that long, esp with the success they've had.

And to be fair, Metallica will never produce another Master Of Puppets. Even if they did miraculously, it wouldn't be the same. It couldn't. I remember hearing that album back in the day before Justice came out... they can't produce anything to rival those feelings anymore than Maiden could produce something to rival that first time I heard Where Eagles Dare. Re-popping a cherry? Not happening. It's a no-win scenario. I recognize that.

AnthG
03-24-2014, 01:24 PM
I'm just getting the feeling you're attributing the quality of the music to a lack of effort, as most people do with any veteran band that slips in quality. It may be that, but I think it's also possible that it's simply a lack/decrease in ability, and that maybe the effort hasn't changed much. Just the quality.

HugeRockStar
03-24-2014, 01:48 PM
The song honestly sounds like it was written in about 10 minutes. For real I'm sure they got together for rehearsals for this tour and pulled it out of their ass the first day because they promised a new song on the tour. I liked Death Magnetic and I'm sure the next album will be just as good when they put some time into it but come on, those are the most typical riffs lumped together in an 8 minute song.

marker
03-24-2014, 03:28 PM
The sad thing is...I actually think they DO care. I think this is the best they can possibly do at this point.

I agree with you, I think they do care. At least they continue to work, they don't need to put out new music to make money. I can think of far lazier bands than Metallica.

MPF
03-24-2014, 07:46 PM
Another Metallica Demo, although it sounds like we've heard it all before:

Yeah

https://soundcloud.com/kcclips/hetfield-grunts

MetalIsArt
03-25-2014, 03:26 AM
I really think that people should finally cool down when it comes to this band.

But hey, I like most of their albums, so I'm not a troo mehtulbrotha.

And uhm, Iron Maiden has made some shit as well. But they are not Metallica, of course.