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adamclark52
03-07-2014, 06:05 PM
Geek alert.

I've been playing video games for longer than some of the people who post here have been alive. I've gone from the pre-Nintendo days to the current. And in doing so I've acquired a very impressive physic, less than stellar social skills and a vast library of useless knowledge. In keeping with the current trend of favorites lists here's my top twenty five favorite games. Unfortunately, this won't be as humorous as some of my other threads, since gaming is something I truly love and take serious.

Over the years I've had a fair number of platforms: Atari 2600, the Nintendo Entertainment System, the Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo Gameboy, Nintendo DS, Sony PlayStations 1, 2 and 3, and the original Xbox (which is not called Xbox 1 for some reason). One thing I’ve never been too into was PC gaming, because it infuriated me that every time I got a game I had to spend more money than the game was worth on more RAM or a new video card. For the longest time I based my console purchases on whoever was releasing the Final Fantasy games. But since the later half of the first decade of this century "exclusive" titles are becoming less and less. So I guess I'll be buying a PlayStation 4 with this generation just because I've been a PlayStation guy for about fifteen years now.

I will get a little long in the tooth in some of these reviews but that's just because of the passion I have for some of these games. I'm also going to try to keep it to individual games but there are a few cases where an entire series will be inducted as a whole. That's only because I feel those games are better taken as one. And in some cases I just felt like it, so suck it. I'm going to include my favorite musical pieces on some games too, when applicable.

Here we go, bitchez.

adamclark52
03-07-2014, 06:11 PM
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Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Platform: Playstation 2
Released: 2005
Publisher: Ubisoft

I really liked the whole Splinter Cell series a lot but I remember when I finished this one I thought it was the best one. Thing is, I can't remember why. What a shitty way to start my list. Whatever, I guess number twenty five could have been the entire series. I don’t think I’ve ever been as cruel to inanimate objects like lightbulbs and security cameras as I was in these games.

Favorite Moment: I can’t remember, probably sneaking up on someone and sniping them.

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-07-2014, 06:50 PM
Don't remember which one exactly, but I've played a Splinter Cell title on Ps2 before and really liked it. I think Tom Clancy games are cool, even though I've only owned Ghost Recond: Advanced Warfighter 2 (which was awesome).

adamclark52
03-08-2014, 08:45 AM
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Dragon Quest IV
Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Released: 1992 (1990 in Japan)
Publisher: Enix

I really like the Dragon Quest games. If I have any problem with them it’s that unlike Final Fantasy, which change with every new game (and often for the worse), Dragon Quest are really always the same. Slimes are always the weakest enemies that give you one gold and two experience points, Metal Babbles always give you a billion experience points and the character design is always something my four year old would dream up. But sometimes it’s nice to know what you’re getting. I really wish I could play more Dragon Quest games but they’re either on systems I don’t own (and am not buying for one game) or straight up haven’t been released in North America. Another problem with the earlier Dragon Quest games was that they weren't highly distributed and when you could find them they were fucking expensive. I wasn't even a teenager when these games were coming out on the NES and they ran upwards of one hundred dollars, each! I wouldn't pay one hundred dollars for a video game today, so take inflation into account and these games were the equivalent to one hundred and fifty dollars in 2014. This is one of the best NES role-playing games out there. It came out right at the tale end of the NES’ life-cycle and pushed that system to its limits. It had a HUGE story, one that was unheard of for the NES. It was re-released for the Nintendo DS and it was one of the few remakes that were actually better than the original, thanks to better graphics and never crashing like so many NES games I had. The only downside to that was I really don't like handheld games. Check it out.

Favorite Moment: Chapter Five, when everything comes together and (even though it’s the last chapter) the game really gets going.

mankvill
03-08-2014, 08:54 AM
Chaos Theory is the greatest stealth game of all time and the best in the Splinter Cell series. <333333333333

adamclark52
03-08-2014, 06:57 PM
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Rockband 2
Platform: Playstation 3 (but it was on every other major platform as well)
Released: 2008
Publisher: Harmonix/MTV Games

The whole music/band game really was quite the fad in the later half of the last decade. It came in like a whirlwind and died quickly. I’ll admit that I did get caught up in it. I really enjoyed playing them (even though I found the difficulty was a bit all over the place) but more so than anything my wife enjoyed playing them. So for the first time…ever…it was something we could do together. We spend quite a number of our Saturday nights in 2008 rocking out to these games. It was one of the few things that my whole family could get together and play and actually have fun together. The first Rockband was very good but I felt the second was way better. It had so many wicked songs on it; be it metal songs I loved like Metallica’s Battery, radio hits like Dinosaur Jr.’s Feel the Pain or songs I’d never even heard of like We Got the Beat by the Go-Go’s and PDA by Interpol. Even songs like Colony of the Birchmen by Mastodon, which I didn’t really like; I thought it was just cool of the developers to go outside the box and throw in so much cool stuff. Unfortunately, once we had kids we had to put down our instruments and take care of them. And my new PS3 only has two input jacks, so I don’t think I can even play this game with my family anymore. Whatever. This game wins on song selection alone.

Favorite Moment: singing Master Exploder by Tenacious D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80DtQD5BQ_A), I hate singing but I love singing that song

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 12:36 PM
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The Legend of Zelda: a Link to the Past
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1991
Publisher: Nintendo

I really am not a fan of the Zelda series of games. I just donít get what the big deal is. Why is Link loved greater than Commander Sheppard or Simon Belmont or so many other less lame characters? I am a fan of the early, early Zelda games, specifically the first one on the NES and this one. Theyíre really simple games, just fun to play and not take too seriously. I honestly canít take them seriously at all. Especially when they've tried to be taken seriously. This one is better just because, obviously, it came out on a later system and had better graphics and a story that evolved through the game rather than a paragraph in the manual (ďyou are to Link, be strong saving Princessí loveĒ). I canít say too much more other than itís a perfect game for its time, really.

Favorite Moment: I always liked the ice stage, simply called the Ice Palace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2viooavS3A)

AnthG
03-09-2014, 12:45 PM
Spoiler request: Will Twisted Metal II be on this list?

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 12:47 PM
Spoiler request: Will Twisted Metal II be on this list?

I can honestly say that it will not. I only ever played one Twisted Metal back in the late nineties. While I thought it was a cool concept the graphics hurt my eyes on the PS1 and I couldn't get into it.

DisposableJustice
03-09-2014, 12:54 PM
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Rockband 2
Platform: Playstation 3 (but it was on every other major platform as well)
Released: 2008
Publisher: Harmonix/MTV Games

The whole music/band game really was quite the fad in the later half of the last decade. It came in like a whirlwind and died quickly. Iíll admit that I did get caught up in it. I really enjoyed playing them (even though I found the difficulty was a bit all over the place) but more so than anything my wife enjoyed playing them. So for the first timeÖeverÖit was something we could do together. We spend quite a number of our Saturday nights in 2008 rocking out to these games. It was one of the few things that my whole family could get together and play and actually have fun together. The first Rockband was very good but I felt the second was way better. It had so many wicked songs on it; be it metal songs I loved like Metallicaís Battery, radio hits like Dinosaur Jr.ís Feel the Pain or songs Iíd never even heard of like We Got the Beat by the Go-Goís and PDA by Interpol. Even songs like Colony of the Birchmen by Mastodon, which I didnít really like; I thought it was just cool of the developers to go outside the box and throw in so much cool stuff. Unfortunately, once we had kids we had to put down our instruments and take care of them. And my new PS3 only has two input jacks, so I donít think I can even play this game with my family anymore. Whatever. This game wins on song selection alone.

Favorite Moment: singing Master Exploder by Tenacious D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80DtQD5BQ_A), I hate singing but I love singing that song

I'm curious; I mostly played the Guitar Hero series and would have loved to buy the whole Rock Band set but it was just too much money; even so when I had the chance I preferred the Rock Band Guitar to the GH guitar, hitting the buttons felt smoother; did you have a favorite?

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 01:48 PM
I'm curious; I mostly played the Guitar Hero series and would have loved to buy the whole Rock Band set but it was just too much money; even so when I had the chance I preferred the Rock Band Guitar to the GH guitar, hitting the buttons felt smoother; did you have a favorite?

Rockband, one hundred times over Rockband. I actually had some comparisons in my review but I cut them. Here we go anyway. Guitar Hero felt more like an arcade game to me and (if this makes any sense) more cartoony. I preferred the more realistic look of Rockband. From what I can remember Rockband had better character customization so I actually had adamclark52 in the game, except with smaller muscles. And i agree, the guitar was smoother and felt nicer. And the soundtrack to Rockband 2 was phenomenal.

More so than anything, four players over two. And more instruments. So when my family got together more people could participate and more variation. Some people just wanted to sing, some wanted to drum, my brother is a loser so he was the eternal bass player. The more instruments was the one problem Rockband had; more shit taking up room in my house.

Guitar Hero was fun but I always say too, you always remember your first and I played Rockband before Guitar Hero.

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 03:44 PM
I forgot to mention in my initial post on Rockband 2 how awesome the addition of "no fail mode" was. I don't care that I was going to get six percent on Painkiller. Watching someone butcher a song was fun.

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 05:17 PM
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Super Mario 64
Platform: Nintendo 64
Released: 1996
Publisher: Nintendo

Has there ever been a better launch title for a system? Well yeahÖbut Iíll get to that one later. Launch games are usually cool at the time they come out but are forgotten once the heavy hitters start getting released on the new platform. But Mario 64 was the first game to come out on the Nintendo 64 and in my opinion (and a lot of other peoples) the best game for the system. It was pretty simple, there really wasnít too much to it, but it set the standard for Mario games after. And in some ways it set the standard for 3D games too. A lot of times when a series that made its mark with side-scrolling games tries to enter the 3D realm they fall flat. But Mario 64 set the template for so many games after it.

Favorite Moment: Really? ďitísa me, MARIO!Ē (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRO7tAJYnI)

AnthG
03-09-2014, 05:26 PM
It's worth noting that from Guitar Hero 4 onwards (when they went with the full band setup), they pretty much made it more and more like Rock band. So some of your criticisms of GH were basically addressed. The interface stayed pretty much the same though, leaving it with that "cartoony" feel.

DisposableJustice
03-09-2014, 05:55 PM
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Super Mario 64
Platform: Nintendo 64
Released: 1996
Publisher: Nintendo

Has there ever been a better launch title for a system? Well yeahÖbut Iíll get to that one later. Launch games are usually cool at the time they come out but are forgotten once the heavy hitters start getting released on the new platform. But Mario 64 was the first game to come out on the Nintendo 64 and in my opinion (and a lot of other peoples) the best game for the system. It was pretty simple, there really wasnít too much to it, but it set the standard for Mario games after. And in some ways it set the standard for 3D games too. A lot of times when a series that made its mark with side-scrolling games tries to enter the 3D realm they fall flat. But Mario 64 set the template for so many games after it.

Favorite Moment: Really? ďitísa me, MARIO!Ē (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRO7tAJYnI)

I did not own a N64 but I had a couple of friends that did and I had a lot of fun playing this, along with Goldeneye

adamclark52
03-09-2014, 11:53 PM
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Final Fantasy IX
Platform:Sony Playstation
Released:2000
Publisher: Squaresoft

You could call this one of the forgotten Final Fantasies. The series was at its more prolific stage in the last few years of the twentieth century but after four games in four years average gamers were burnt out on Final Fantasy. And it’s too bad because one of the better ones came out right at the end of that era. Final Fantasy IX took the series for a bit of a step backwards. All the cyber-punk, daddy issues and gay haircuts were gone and the game went back to the series roots of a medieval themed turn-based role-playing game. With magic, knights, four person parties, small breasts and characters with a single class. And one of, if not the, best cast of characters a Final Fantasy's ever had. It really worked and it’s really too bad the game has been forgotten by the mainstream. But it’s highly thought of by fans of the series. My only problems with the game are it looks terrible (which is expected from a PSone title) and it’s too slow. Granted, the last time I went to play it was after I’d finished a playthrough of Final Fantasy XIII (which was a chaotic game) but battles just dragged for me. And in this day of chaotic, fast-paced games I don’t know if I can ever go back to this. I hope I can some day.

Favorite Moment: Vivi's reaction to the Black Waltz killing the Black Mage's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfa9DtGZqM)

Favorite Musical Piece: Freya’s Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rlLC4N9u4)

adamclark52
03-10-2014, 10:38 AM
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Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Platform: Sony Playstation 3
Released: 2011
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks

Skyrim should be higher on my list but as a PS3 owner I got burned by this game, bad. You can read all about the bugs and crashing issues with the PS3 port of this game all over the internet. I didn’t even know about them until I was about sixty-five hours, or seventy percent, into the game. Then the lag got so bad that I had to just stop playing all together. So you can tell how good a game is when I finish with I and I'm absolutely FURIOUS, but it still makes it to nineteen on my list. I tried playing it again a few months ago but my heart was still broken. That said, what I did get was one of the lushest worlds I’ve ever explored in a video game, with so much going on and so much to do. The music was fantastic, the combat and gameplay was way better than any of the other games I’d played in the series. It really could’ve been a top five game but it broke my heart.

Favorite Moment: walking around the frozen lake in the northern part of the world while Under An Ancient Sun plays. Chilling.

Favorite Musical Piece: Under An Ancient Sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INSHJHOiS-Y)

mankvill
03-10-2014, 10:49 AM
After the mods I've put on my PC copy of Skyrim, I can't even fathom playing it on consoles.

adamclark52
03-11-2014, 12:53 AM
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Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Released: 2002
Publisher: Rockstar Games

Aside from the very first Grand Theft Auto on Playstation this was my first experience with GTA. The first one Iím talking about really wasnít a very good game and the series had evolved a lot in the five years since. There isnít too much to this game to set it apart from any other GTA title. The biggest difference isÖitís set in the 1980ís? But I found this game better than the rest because of the awesome soundtrack. Nothing beat running people down to Raining Blood, or going into a club while Dance Hall Days was playing and throwing a missile into the dance floor. I played the fuck out of this game and the one after it San Andreas. San Andreas was really good too but the world was just too big for me. Vice City had the perfect sized world; not a wasted bit of space. Any GTA since I havenít been able to get into because I played so much Vice City and San Andreas. I mean, I played a lot of these games. And Iím still burnt out after almost eight years. I will get to V some day.

Favorite Moment: sitting in the strip club while Animotions Obsession (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs5StN8J-0) is playing.

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-11-2014, 07:23 AM
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Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Platform: Sony Playstation 3
Released: 2011
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks

Skyrim should be higher on my list but as a PS3 owner I got burned by this game, bad. You can read all about the bugs and crashing issues with the PS3 port of this game all over the internet. I didnít even know about them until I was about sixty-five hours, or seventy percent, into the game. Then the lag got so bad that I had to just stop playing all together. So you can tell how good a game is when I finish with I and I'm absolutely FURIOUS, but it still makes it to nineteen on my list. I tried playing it again a few months ago but my heart was still broken. That said, what I did get was one of the lushest worlds Iíve ever explored in a video game, with so much going on and so much to do. The music was fantastic, the combat and gameplay was way better than any of the other games Iíd played in the series. It really couldíve been a top five game but it broke my heart.

Favorite Moment: walking around the frozen lake in the northern part of the world while Under An Ancient Sun plays. Chilling.

Favorite Musical Piece: Under An Ancient Sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INSHJHOiS-Y)
I never got why everyone had so many bug and lag issues, because I've never experienced any of the sort on my console version. I got the pc version though so it's rare that I play my PS3 one.

dcmetal108
03-11-2014, 07:49 AM
I never got why everyone had so many bug and lag issues, because I've never experienced any of the sort on my console version. I got the pc version though so it's rare that I play my PS3 one.

Because PC versions have less bugs because they don't have to pay to patch it.

adamclark52
03-11-2014, 08:01 AM
Because PC versions have less bugs because they don't have to pay to patch it.

I've heard there are patches but I just didn't want to risk it. And one of the requirements to fix my issues was to turn off auto-save and not save as often. I died a lot in that game so not being able to save was not an option.

El Gordo
03-11-2014, 09:30 AM
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Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Released: 2002
Publisher: Rockstar Games

Aside from the very first Grand Theft Auto on Playstation this was my first experience with GTA. The first one Iím talking about really wasnít a very good game and the series had evolved a lot in the five years since. There isnít too much to this game to set it apart from any other GTA title. The biggest difference isÖitís set in the 1980ís? But I found this game better than the rest because of the awesome soundtrack. Nothing beat running people down to Raining Blood, or going into a club while Dance Hall Days was playing and throwing a missile into the dance floor. I played the fuck out of this game and the one after it San Andreas. San Andreas was really good too but the world was just too big for me. Vice City had the perfect sized world; not a wasted bit of space. Any GTA since I havenít been able to get into because I played so much Vice City and San Andreas. I mean, I played a lot of these games. And Iím still burnt out after almost eight years. I will get to V some day.

Favorite Moment: sitting in the strip club while Animotions Obsession (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs5StN8J-0) is playing.

This would be in my top ten. I also spent A LOT of time playing this one as well as San Andreas. I had the same problem with SA though -- too big, too much to do. Great pick!

adamclark52
03-11-2014, 10:46 AM
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Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Platform: Sony Playstation 2
Released: 2004
Publisher: Konami

Ah, Metal Gear Solid. You and your never-ending cutscenes. Your illusions to shit that I have none clue the fuck about. Your characters that make you say, “the fuuuuuuck”? All those fucking Hideo-isms. I really enjoy this series even if it can be more a movie than a game. The first in the “Solid” series was awesome...and then there was the sequel. Whatever. The third one came out and made everything right. Snake was back, Raiden was gone. That was really all it needed. Aside from Raiden MGS2 wasn’t really all that bad (until the last sequence when things got confusing as fuck) but everything just felt right in this game. The location was awesome. The combat was just as good. And the characters, dear god the characters were so awesome. The Pain, the Fear, the End, the Fury, the Sorrow and the Boss are the greatest group of supporting characters I can think of. Too bad that there wasn’t too much back story on any of them. Even though a few of them were only really around in the game for a few minutes those few minutes were just so damn awesome. I can shit on MGS4 for its never-ending cutscenes because they were boring as fuck and that game went just overboard (or over-bored). In this game they were just as long but were actually well done, served a purpose and didn't have Otacon crying. I can remember after I beat this game I thought to myself, “I just played one of the greatest games I’ll ever play in my life”. Ten years later it still holds up at number seventeen.

Favorite Moment: most people would say the battle with the End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YQKNpt-Idw), and that is so fucking awesome beyond words. But I really love the sequence with the Sorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jss3mQ9Z0Ac). That shit is mint.

adamclark52
03-11-2014, 11:45 AM
I never got why everyone had so many bug and lag issues, because I've never experienced any of the sort on my console version. I got the pc version though so it's rare that I play my PS3 one.

If it's rare that you played your PS3 one then that's the reason you never had the lag issues. You had to play for approximately sixty hours, or until your save file got to 12MB, before it took effect.

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-11-2014, 02:41 PM
If it's rare that you played your PS3 one then that's the reason you never had the lag issues. You had to play for approximately sixty hours, or until your save file got to 12MB, before it took effect.

O no, when I first got it I played almost non-stop for two months straight. There's well over sixty hours on that thing. I just got the pc one for Christmas last year, and that's why i don't play it much on PS3 anymore.

adamclark52
03-12-2014, 12:14 AM
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Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Platform: Sony Playstation
Released: 1997
Publisher: Konami

I’ve always been a big fan of the Castlevania series. A lot of the games get shat on but I don’t think I’ve ever played a “bad” one. This game gets rave reviews from everyone and it’s well deserved. I wouldn’t say it’s a complete throwback to the series side-scrolling 2D days (after the last few Castlevania games had been 3D) since it was definitely less-linear and less stage based than those games. I think it combines the vast exploration of the 3D games with the simple charm of a side-scrolling game. With some nice role-playing elements added like experience points and interchangeable weapon, armor and items. Plus some of the wickedest, most twisted boss designs of its time. Some terrible voice acting though. And yes, it is pretty much a Metroid clone.

Favorite Moment: Succubus (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Succubus)...mmm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQcZoloaFr8)

Favorite Musical Piece: Path of the Departed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCzqzoVjoY)

adamclark52
03-12-2014, 09:19 AM
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Final Fantasy Tactics
Platform: Sony Playstation
Released: 1997
Publisher: Squaresoft

This is a bit of an oddball of a choice in the Final Fantasy nexus. Firstly, it’s not your typical Final Fantasy. It’s (duh) a tactical game, almost like playing an electronic game of chess. And it’s not even numbered so you have to wonder if they were developing another game and just slapped the “Final Fantasy” name on it to move units. It did come out at the same time as Final Fantasy VII so if there was ever a time to capitalize on the Final Fantasy name that was it. It’s not usually ranked very high by fans of the series but it’s one of my favorites. I can’t even say why. The story isn’t a mess but it’s hard to follow. I had to play through it twice just to piece it together when I first played it. And it has some difficulty spikes that are relentless. By "some" I mean every fucking battle is more challenging. And leveling your characters is another lesson in patience. I think I just like this game because. Sometimes you don’t need a reason.

Favorite Moment: when you get Cidolfas Orlandu (http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Orlandeau), the game goes from frustratingly impossible to laughably easy in a matter of seconds. Has there ever been a greater equalizer in gaming than Thunder God Cid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFYVcz7h3o0)?

Favorite Musical Piece: A True Hero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFQHl-w1FCY)

adamclark52
03-13-2014, 12:31 AM
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Halo: Combat Evolved
Platform: Xbox
Released: 2001
Publisher: Bungie/Microsoft Game Studios

So yeah, there is a better launch title then Super Mario 64. Mario and Nintendo were very well established brands at the time of the Nintendo 64’s release. So it wasn’t a surprise that it was a quality game, it was just a surprise that it was as good as it was. But Halo and X-Box were brand new on the scene. So Halo came out from nowhere and became “legendary”, and in doing so set the foundation for the X-Box and pretty much saved them from the same fate as so many other failed systems. Pretty good. I usually don’t like First Person Shooters but this one just feels different to me. There’s more of a story element than usual. It’s aged a lot, and I’ve only played the first sequel, but this game stands on it’s own as an all time great.

Favorite Moment: storming the beach at the beginning of the Silent Cartographer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_AYOzr7OjA)

Favorite Musical Piece: the Maw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUF17cd8mKk)

mankvill
03-13-2014, 09:04 AM
what a thrill

with darkness and silence in the niiiiiiiiiight

John The Drummer
03-13-2014, 12:03 PM
Vice City and MGS3 were fuckin awesome :rocker:

I remember being so frustrated with the final boss fight in MGS3, even in the HD Remake I was raging at it :lol: . And you can't forget "SNAKE, YOU'VE CREATED A TIME PARADOX!"

Vice City, fuck yes. The game that introduced me to Anthrax and Slayer :rocker:

adamclark52
03-14-2014, 12:10 AM
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Super Metroid
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1994
Publisher: Nintendo

I think this is the only Metroid game I ever played. And itís really the only one I want to play. But if youíre going to play one game in a series this has to be the one. This game pushed the SNES to its limits and the visuals are just phenomenal. And the game is frigging fun. And the music, itís such awesome music. Pick any song from any area, itís awesome. Itís a relatively short game by my standards but it leaves you wanting to play it again, which is an accomplishment in of itís own. I havenít played this game in well over fifteen years and writing this review makes me want to right that wrong. If anyone has a copy for sale PM me. I donít do emulators.

Favorite Moment: I liked those little passive creatures that inhabited the planet and when you saved them in the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LhzmztWRk)

Favorite Musical Piece: Brinstar Ė Green Vegetation Area (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcZmaus6g0)

adamclark52
03-14-2014, 04:40 PM
12.
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Secret of Mana
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1993
Publisher: Squaresoft

A somewhat forgotten SNES gem. This game is pretty lightweight compared to a lot of the other stuff on the list. A lot of the dialogue and character design are somewhat laughable and most of the enemy design is pretty juvenile. I mean, you fight a lot of bunnies (http://tops.gamerlimit.com/files/2009/09/1993-The-Secret-of-Mana-620x-540x278.jpg). The music is really great and sets the mood for whatever you're doing. And when it does get "serious" it gets really good. It just brings back so many great memories and is a sort of precursor to what would come later in my gaming life. If you ask me ďhow is this game structuredĒ or ďwhat does it compare toĒ, I'd say itís the halfway point between Final Fantasy and the Legend of Zelda. Itís got the action and the free roaming of a Zelda game but the leveling and equipment gathering of a Final Fantasy. If you can find this game I highly recommend it. But have an open mind, it's over twenty years old now.

Favorite Moment: When you walk around the Sunken Palace/Continent later on in the game. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQGB-rklms) The music and overall mood takes the game to a more serious level. Even though you do fight some pretty powerful bunnies (https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/52/54947.png) afterwards.

Favorite Musical Piece: Ceremony (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSk_rwQz01s)

adamclark52
03-14-2014, 08:22 PM
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Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Platform: Sony Playstation
Released: 1999
Publisher: Crystal Dynamics/Edios Interactive

Thanks to Twilight vampires have gotten really gay in the last decade. But before the chiseled chins, wooden acting and great hair vampires were a pretty grotesque thing. Castlevania made them a little cartoonier but the Legacy of Kain series went the complete opposite direction. Bleak, decaying, disgusting, dirty, vile; all words to describe the world of Nosgoth and its inhabitants created in these games. The first Soul Reaver is the best. The characters were so awesome, the visuals so disturbing and the voice acting was so fantastic. The game itself was a bit too easy but that only allowed you to progress easier into this twisted nightmare. It unfortunately hasn’t aged very well, as is the case with most Playstation 1 games. At the same time, the crusty decaying look of a late-nineties Playstation game sort of fits this game. It benefits from looking like disgusting, aged crap. But it's still very hard on the eyes. The series fell off the map after 2003’s Defiance which is really too bad. There never was a bad game in the series but this was so good that following it up was quite a task. I strongly encourage you to check out the entire series, even the first Blood Omen, but start with this game. It’s worth checking out just to get the visual of that faggot Edward glistening in the sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHse6q92lb0) out of your eyes.

Favorite Moment: the intro cinematic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N2L_zhvuls)

Favorite Musical Piece: the main theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZnKMYdt40Q)

Dextrimental
03-14-2014, 08:31 PM
3 incredible choices. Been putting off doing a Super Metroid play-through for months, I got to get on that. Secret of Mana is too good.

adamclark52
03-15-2014, 12:31 PM
10.
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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Platform: Playstation 3
Released: 2007 (2006 on PC and Xbox 360)
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks

Visually Skyrim is a better game than Oblivion. And from a design standpoint Skyrim was superior. Leveling and building your character are a bit more of a hassle in this game. But I got a complete experience from this game. So that's why it's ranked higher. And really, itís just as good a game with just as many cool things to do. Just as many quests, just as many characters. But with five years between the two games obviously a lot of improvements are going to get made. Oblivion got forgotten when Skyrim came out, just like Skyrim will get forgotten when Elder Scrolls VI comes out and blows it out of the water. Their both pretty much perfect for their times. I played this game for close to sixty hours before I even touched on the main quest. That was because I plowed through all the guilds and so many sidequests without even noticing Kvatch was on the map (which was a main city in the quest). I still don't know how I managed that. If I have any problem with this (or Skyrim) itís that I have a hard time trying to replay these games with a new character since I do EVERYTHING on my first playthroughs. So it's hard for me to find something new to do and the main story-lines are secondary to everything else in these games.

Favorite Moment: the fate of Lucien Lachance (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lucien_Lachance)

Favorite Musical Piece: Glory Of Cyrodil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmasQm-YW8I&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA)

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 01:06 PM
10.
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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Platform: Playstation 3
Released: 2007 (2006 on PC and Xbox 360)
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks

Visually Skyrim is a better game than Oblivion. And from a design standpoint Skyrim was superior. Leveling and building your character are a bit more of a hassle in this game. But I got a complete experience from this game. So that's why it's ranked higher. And really, it’s just as good a game with just as many cool things to do. Just as many quests, just as many characters. But with five years between the two games obviously a lot of improvements are going to get made. Oblivion got forgotten when Skyrim came out, just like Skyrim will get forgotten when Elder Scrolls VI comes out and blows it out of the water. Their both pretty much perfect for their times. I played this game for close to sixty hours before I even touched on the main quest. That was because I plowed through all the guilds and so many sidequests without even noticing Kvatch was on the map (which was a main city in the quest). I still don't know how I managed that. If I have any problem with this (or Skyrim) it’s that I have a hard time trying to replay these games with a new character since I do EVERYTHING on my first playthroughs. So it's hard for me to find something new to do and the main story-lines are secondary to everything else in these games.

Favorite Moment: the fate of Lucien Lachance (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lucien_Lachance)

Favorite Musical Piece: Glory Of Cyrodil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmasQm-YW8I&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA)

Oblivion was a good game, but golly those NPC's were so ugly it was hard to look at the screen.

dcmetal108
03-15-2014, 01:23 PM
Oblivion was a good game, but golly those NPC's were so ugly it was hard to look at the screen.

Is that why you don't play older games?

adamclark52
03-15-2014, 01:29 PM
I didn't find the NPCs that bad to look at. Again, it was good for the time but I'm sure it's aged. I haven't played in a few years (or since Skyrim) so maybe it is that bad now.

One thing I forgot in my review that I liked in Oblivion was how the camera zoomed in on the face of the NPC you were talking to, something that was absent in Skyrim. It made me feel more like the NPC was talking to *me* rather than my computer controlled character.

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 01:42 PM
Is that why you don't play older games?

Yep, that's exactly what I said.

They were plenty of games with good NPC graphics at and before the time of Oblivion's release, Kingdom Hearts 2 is the frist that comes to mind. I didn't say that the NPC design made Oblivion a bad game did I? The game was actually really fun to me.

dcmetal108
03-15-2014, 01:44 PM
Yep, that's exactly what I said.

They were plenty of games with good NPC graphics at and before the time of Oblivion's release, Kingdom Hearts 2 is the frist that comes to mind. I didn't say that the NPC design made Oblivion a bad game did I? The game was actually really fun to me.

Kingdom Hearts 2 isn't old!

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 01:47 PM
Kingdom Hearts 2 isn't old!

NEITHER IS OBLIVION!!

dcmetal108
03-15-2014, 02:13 PM
NEITHER IS OBLIVION!!

Why are you yelling?

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 02:38 PM
Why are you yelling?

Because I'm tired of your consistent hate.

kalfitegrdan
03-15-2014, 03:41 PM
10.
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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Platform: Playstation 3
Released: 2007 (2006 on PC and Xbox 360)
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks

Visually Skyrim is a better game than Oblivion. And from a design standpoint Skyrim was superior. Leveling and building your character are a bit more of a hassle in this game. But I got a complete experience from this game. So that's why it's ranked higher. And really, itís just as good a game with just as many cool things to do. Just as many quests, just as many characters. But with five years between the two games obviously a lot of improvements are going to get made. Oblivion got forgotten when Skyrim came out, just like Skyrim will get forgotten when Elder Scrolls VI comes out and blows it out of the water. Their both pretty much perfect for their times. I played this game for close to sixty hours before I even touched on the main quest. That was because I plowed through all the guilds and so many sidequests without even noticing Kvatch was on the map (which was a main city in the quest). I still don't know how I managed that. If I have any problem with this (or Skyrim) itís that I have a hard time trying to replay these games with a new character since I do EVERYTHING on my first playthroughs. So it's hard for me to find something new to do and the main story-lines are secondary to everything else in these games.

Favorite Moment: the fate of Lucien Lachance (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lucien_Lachance)

Favorite Musical Piece: Glory Of Cyrodil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmasQm-YW8I&list=PLE7855814AAB038FA)

Morrowind > Oblivion for me. I couldn't really stand Oblivion.

dcmetal108
03-15-2014, 03:51 PM
Because I'm tired of your consistent hate.

I think you confuse hatred with making a point or having a converstion. You also confuse hatred with anyone who doesn't see your point of view or has anything to say about it.

They were plenty of games with good NPC graphics at and before the time of Oblivion's release

For instance, BEFORE, means anything that came out BEFORE Oblivion. Not a time limit on that.

adamclark52
03-15-2014, 04:03 PM
Morrowind > Oblivion for me. I couldn't really stand Oblivion.

I really should look into that game. But I'm going to have to wildandyoung my comment and say that the graphics look really rough and I don't know if I can go backwards and enjoy it as much as I should. That's the problem when you miss out on things as they're happening. Same thing almost happened to me when I played Mass Effect after the second and third games. But, you know...that's Mass Effect. ;)

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 04:47 PM
I think you confuse hatred with making a point or having a converstion. You also confuse hatred with anyone who doesn't see your point of view or has anything to say about it.



For instance, BEFORE, means anything that came out BEFORE Oblivion. Not a time limit on that.

Notice how it's only your hate (or whatever you want to call it) that I have been complaining about these days, it has to mean something. It's not just how you respond to my comments, it's how you are almost always the first (and in most cases only) to argue/attack/insult/whatever you want to call it my views/opinions in an overall hateful way (especially when it really isn't called for). If you truly aren't trying to be hateful, then you need to change the way you write your responses because that's all I'm getting from most of your posts.

And adamclark makes a VERY good point, if you miss out on things as they're happening (especially more older stuff), your less likely to be able to get into them as easily as someone who was in with it at the time. I don't care what anybody says, graphics are important in a video game. Does that mean if the game has bad graphics compared to today's standards it is a bad game? Absolutely not, it just means it's not going to look as appealing to most who are more familiar with the current video games. Me personally, I usually have to have something pretty to look at, no matter how good the gameplay/story of the game is, I wanna be able to at least look at the screen without cringing. Older games are less appealing to me because they don't LOOK like good games based on solely their visuals, which is the only part I'm familiar with until I play them. I will still give them a chance if the opportunity to play them comes, but that is another problem. I'm only a teenager, I don't have a SNES anymore (and when I did I didn't have much games on it), I haven't gotten the chance to play most of these old games that are considered classics and most likely never will get the chance. I feel like some people on this forum (dcmetal) believe that if it's not an old game it has no credibility whatsoever and can't possibly make someones favorites list.

All that said I really do love retro style graphics in the style of Zelda and games of that ilk, it's when you get more into the in-between era of the SNES and PS2 games that I start to not be a fan of the graphics.

dcmetal108
03-15-2014, 05:06 PM
Notice how it's only your hate (or whatever you want to call it) that I have been complaining about these days, it has to mean something. It's not just how you respond to my comments, it's how you are almost always the first (and in most cases only) to argue/attack/insult/whatever you want to call it my views/opinions in an overall hateful way (especially when it really isn't called for). If you truly aren't trying to be hateful, then you need to change the way you write your responses because that's all I'm getting from most of your posts.

And adamclark makes a VERY good point, if you miss out on things as they're happening (especially more older stuff), your less likely to be able to get into them as easily as someone who was in with it at the time. I don't care what anybody says, graphics are important in a video game. Does that mean if the game has bad graphics compared to today's standards it is a bad game? Absolutely not, it just means it's not going to look as appealing to most who are more familiar with the current video games. Me personally, I usually have to have something pretty to look at, no matter how good the gameplay/story of the game is, I wanna be able to at least look at the screen without cringing. Older games are less appealing to me because they don't LOOK like good games based on solely their visuals, which is the only part I'm familiar with until I play them. I will still give them a chance if the opportunity to play them comes, but that is another problem. I'm only a teenager, I don't have a SNES anymore (and when I did I didn't have much games on it), I haven't gotten the chance to play most of these old games that are considered classics and most likely never will get the chance. I feel like some people on this forum (dcmetal) believe that if it's not an old game it has no credibility whatsoever and can't possibly make someones favorites list.

All that said I really do love retro style graphics in the style of Zelda and games of that ilk, it's when you get more into the in-between era of the SNES and PS2 games that I start to not be a fan of the graphics.

Never once said that. There are a good handful of games over the last gen of systems that are some of favorites ever. But when all your games are new something is wrong,

And if you are playing Oblivion on the PC download a graphics mod. That's why they are made.

Again though, welcome to the internet where everything you ever say will be disputed in a matter in which you find hurtful. It happens here, it happens everywhere online.

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 05:11 PM
Never once said that. There are a good handful of games over the last gen of systems that are some of favorites ever. But when all your games are new something is wrong,

And if you are playing Oblivion on the PC download a graphics mod. That's why they are made.

Again though, welcome to the internet where everything you ever say will be disputed in a matter in which you find hurtful. It happens here, it happens everywhere online.

You never said it, no, but you insinuated it.

And now I reinstate my previous comment, "Notice how it's only your hate (or whatever you want to call it) that I have been complaining about these days". I don't care if it's the internet, I know people are going to insult me, doesn't give you any more power or reason to be hateful.

ravenheart
03-15-2014, 05:13 PM
I think you confuse hatred with making a point or having a converstion. You also confuse hatred with anyone who doesn't see your point of view or has anything to say about it.

Welcome to the internet generation.

adamclark52
03-15-2014, 07:37 PM
9.
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Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cured King
Platform: Playstation 2
Released: 2005 (2004 in Japan)
Publisher: Square Enix

Iíve always been a bigger fan of the Final Fantasy games than the Dragon Quest games. I enjoy them but theyí can get a bit on the tedious side (too much grinding) and they seem to always be stuck with the same design, which I went over in my review of Dragon Quest IV. But this was the first Dragon Quest game that I truly loved playing. It wasnít really any different from any other Dragon Quests and it really was a lot shallower than most of the other ones Iíve played. But the design of the world was so great, the characters were so quirky and it wasnít as brutally difficult as some of the other games in the series. Unlike Final Fantasy, which really suffered when voice acting was added, Dragon Quest benefitted from the addition. That's probably because they hired decent actors and they had good scripts to work with. (If you ever really read the dialogue in some of the earlier Final Fantasies, it's just as poor as the later ones). I haven't played a single Dragon Quest game since this one because they're all been released on systems I don't own or don't play that much. But what a hell of a way to go out.

Favorite Moment: Jessica (http://dragonquest.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Albert)

Favorite Musical Piece: Traveling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh7Qg8JRvY)

TheWildAndTheYoung
03-15-2014, 07:40 PM
9.
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Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cured King
Platform: Playstation 2
Released: 2005 (2004 in Japan)
Publisher: Square Enix

Iíve always been a bigger fan of the Final Fantasy games than the Dragon Quest games. I enjoy them but theyí can get a bit on the tedious side (too much grinding) and they seem to always be stuck with the same design, which I went over in my review of Dragon Quest IV. But this was the first Dragon Quest game that I truly loved playing. It wasnít really any different from any other Dragon Quests and it really was a lot shallower than most of the other ones Iíve played. But the design of the world was so great, the characters were so quirky and it wasnít as brutally difficult as some of the other games in the series. Unlike Final Fantasy, which really suffered when voice acting was added, Dragon Quest benefitted from the addition. That's probably because they hired decent actors and they had good scripts to work with. (If you ever really read the dialogue in some of the earlier Final Fantasies, it's just as poor as the later ones). I haven't played a single Dragon Quest game since this one because they're all been released on systems I don't own or don't play that much. But what a hell of a way to go out.

Favorite Moment: Jessica (http://dragonquest.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Albert)

Favorite Musical Piece: Traveling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWh7Qg8JRvY)

I totally forgot about this game! It was the only one in the series I ever played, and even though I never remember finishing it, it was one awesome game.

adamclark52
03-16-2014, 11:00 AM
8.
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Ninja Gaiden (NES Series)
Platform: Nintendo Entertainment System
Released: (1988, 1990, 1991)
Publisher: Tecmo

Iíve written before on this very forum that if you were a pre-teen in the early 1990ís ninjas were the shit. And these three games were the shit. Theyíve aged very poorly over the years (whatís to be expected from an 8-bit series), theyíre relentlessly difficult and they were rebooted in the mid-2000ís but I never was able to get into them. But if you transport yourself to the early 1990ís and put yourself into my place youíd love these games too. Thing is, while the games were cool even as a young boy I was drawn in by the music and the story. The cut-scenes between stages were really unorthodox for the NES. Usually in those days stories were told by a paragraph or two in the manual and you had to piece the rest together yourself. So to have a story unfold as the game went on was unheard of and frigging awesome. And the music :drool:. Thatís still the best part of these games. So many awesome tracks. The first game probably is the best of the three; the story, music and scenery are all fantastic. The second one was just as good but added some features (like scaling walls) that made it a lot easier. And the thirdÖwell it was the hardest. It was a bit of a fuckterpeice but itís still fun to play with cheat codes. Actually, the third had a wicked sound effect whenever Ryu (your character) swung his sword that was fucking awesome. So the third games wins for having the best sword effect. And since itís a ninja series sword effects are pretty important.

Favorite Moment (Ninja Gaiden): the battle with the masked devil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlSE90Av-xs) (here's all the cutscenes for this one too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGyFQ9aRp_U))
Favorite Moment (Ninja Gaiden 2: the Dark Sword of Chaos): Roberts last stand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTE1T8SBzrQ) (14:41 - 15:11)
Favorite Moment (Ninja Gaiden 3: the Ancient Ship of Doom): When Foster meets his fate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDitARCDTYA) (around the eleven minute mark)

Favorite Musical Piece (Ninja Gaiden): Mines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLXcCe7GgA)
Favorite Musical Piece (Ninja Gaiden 2: the Dark Sword of Chaos): the Parasprinter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnv2JQ38OI)
Favorite Musical Piece (Ninja Gaiden 3: the Ancient Ship of Doom): Lava Caverns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrZ3oc-Nnk)

adamclark52
03-16-2014, 05:34 PM
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Valkyria Chronicles
Platform: Playstation 3
Released: 2008
Publisher: Sega

Tactical combat games arenít something I really like. If Iím going to play a ďshootingĒ game Iím going to play one where I can just run around like a total moron and blow shit up. Not one where I have to think. That said Valkyria Chronicles is a great game because of the great writing. Even though there is a fantasy element to it this game feels more ďrealĒ to me than a Modern Warfare or SOCOM. Because this game focused just as much on the characters as the combat. There are some heart-wrenching cutscenes in this game. Too many to mention really. One that always got to me was where a sub-character had a child right at the beginning of the game, in the middle of a city under siege. It probably hit me harder because my first son was about three weeks old at the time when I saw that scene. But it hit me that during war there are people living their lives, trying to survive and trying to stay out of harms way. The story just brought out the human element of war. It was too bad that the game itself was pretty tedious. Grinding your characters and trying to get powerful enough for the next stage it a lesson in patience and free time. But for the story alone I recommend this game.

Favorite Moment: There are so many great scenes in this game like the aforementioned scene with the baby and another scene where a supporting character dies and your heart will get ripped out. But thereís a scene halfway through the game, after another exhausting battle, when the two main characters are camped out in an abandoned shack in the woods (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHtz0A_ym9A). A mortally injured enemy trooper enters the shack and collapses. They consol him as he cries out for his mother and they try to ease his pain. He dies and they then bury him. The next morning the soldiers unit come across the shack and the charactersÖand thank them for easing his pain and giving their comrade a proper burial. As they leave they say the next time they may meet it will probably be on the battlefield, and thatís unfortunate. Thatís not something you see in games very often. Remember that scene the next time you stomp on a Koopa Troopa.

Favorite Musical Piece: the intro screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPhasMsayI)

adamclark52
03-17-2014, 11:18 AM
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(this is the SNES cover. The game was released in North America as Final Fantasy III and that's how I always remember it)

Final Fantasy VI
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1994
Publisher: Squaresoft

This is probably the game that Iíve played through more than any other game. I canít even begin to think how many times I did it back in high school. At least fifteen to twenty times. I havenít played it in well over ten years now because at the time I didnít have the option of all the games there are now or the income. Itís really a perfect Final Fantasy game. The only drawback being that all the characters have interchangeable skill sets. I prefer it when a character is a black mage and thatís it. Or a thief's a thief and thatís it. In this game any character can have any skill (save one character specific skill each) and youíll even up with a big muscular guy whoís a master of curative magic or a moogle whoís a tank. This is one of the rare games too where the main villain actually succeeds in destroying the world, which isnít a spoiler because it happens halfway through the game. Iíd call this essential for anyone interested in playing a Final Fantasy.

Favorite Moment: Terra, Biggs and Wedgeís walk towards Narshe during the intro credits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU1W7b4B2tY)

Favorite Musical Piece: Tina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7RPY-oiDAQ)

John The Drummer
03-17-2014, 06:04 PM
I always wanted to play FF "3".... but never did. I remember watching a friend of mine play it and thinking "This looks boring".... I was also VERY young....

And never touched a Dragon Quest.... always was interested tho :bouville:

adamclark52
03-18-2014, 10:30 AM
I always wanted to play FF "3".... but never did. I remember watching a friend of mine play it and thinking "This looks boring".... I was also VERY young....

And never touched a Dragon Quest.... always was interested tho :bouville:

I guess I already highly recommended Final Fantasy VI by placing it at number six. But if you're even just on the fence on it I say just do it. It's a relitivly short game (thirty hours or so) so you wouldn't need to invest too much of your life. I'd recommend looking for the PSone release "Final Fantasy Anthology". You get a direct port of the SNES version of Final Fantasy VI plus you get Final Fantasy V as well. V was a good game that just had the misfortune of being sandwiched between to phenomenonal games. And it was unreleased in North America until 1999.

If you've never played a Final Fantasy at all I recommend starting with VII, IV or VI, in that order. And the original.

As far as Dragon Quest I'd say start with VIII. It's probably the "lightest" one in the series. Any of the others require a lit more time and patience.

adamclark52
03-18-2014, 10:54 AM
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(like Final Fantasy VI, this game was originally released as Final Fantasy II in North America and that name and box artwork is forever etched in my eyes and mind)

Final Fantasy IV
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1991
Publisher: Squaresoft

This was probably the first video game that drew me in with the story rather than the action. It was pretty early in the Super Nintendoís lifespan, it may have even been a launch title, and Iíd only played NES games up to that point. Aside from the Ninja Gaiden series storylines took a backseat to action and challenge. So this was the first time Iíd really seen a game with so much dialogue, such a diverse cast of characters and so many different ideas. The music really drew me into the game as well. I can remember getting a paper route when I was eleven JUST so I could by a Super Nintendo JUST so I could buy this game. So you can thank this game for making me a fat, socially awkward, isolated geek who canít talk to girls. I play the game now and the plot and dialogue have quite a few holes in them. But aside from that thereís still nothing wrong with it. I think back to this game every time I play a newer Final Fantasy and think about how far the series has come.

Favorite Moment: I always loved the ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5aAwfqTwvU); it had great closure for all (but one) of the characters.

Favorite Musical Piece: Tears of Sorrow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3t_FtHNblk)

adamclark52
03-19-2014, 09:56 AM
4.
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Final Fantasy XII
Platform: Playstation 2
Released: 2006
Publisher: Square-Enix

I can’t say you don’t hear many good things about this game because you don’t really hear ANYTHING about this game. It’s another one that kind of got forgotten by time.

This game had a lot of things working against it that keep people from remembering it as fondly as I do. Its biggest problem was that it came out right at the end of the PS2’s life-cycle. So when it came out people were more pumped for Playstation 3 and everyone was getting that for Christmas that year. It had a very odd combat set-up where you basically set up what you’re characters would do in given circumstances and ran around while they did it. Once your characters were set up to your liking you could play this game with just the two thumb joysticks, and that was only to make your characters walk and change the camera angle. The character customization was a bit sloppy. Basically, you could give any character any ability. So if you wanted you could make Penelo (the frail teenage girl) your tank and Basch (the noble knight) a weakling healer. But if you were like most people you just gave everyone every ability and made a super knight/mage/ninja. In the end, I ended up using only three of the six characters for my entire playthough (although on subsequent playthroughs I tried using different characters every time). A problem with that was a problem that plagues most Final Fantasies in that the characters who aren’t in your immediate party don’t gain experience. So you’re left with three characters who are in level seventy and three who are in the low teens. Given that this game was hard even with characters in higher levels there were times were you needed the other three characters to bail you out. And with them in a low level it got frustrating. And lastly; the story is a bit of a mess. It’s one of those games where it all feels like a chapter in a larger story.

So how the hell is this number four on my list? Being sandwiched between two very polarizing Final Fantasies (X and XIII) you had a game that really went back to the purest roots of the series. I mean, this game had armor, magic, cities, dungeons; all things that the games around it were lauded for not having. It was one of the very few Final Fantasies where you would have to keep backtracking to areas to unlock further routes in the same area. Shit, one of the hardest enemies is in an unlockable area in a dungeon (a mine in this game) that you first come across in the first quarter of the game. Visually the game is very interesting, both a blessing and a curse. Most of the bosses, and a lot of the standard enemies, are designed in a way that I still don’t know what the fuck I’m looking at even after playing through the game four times. It had a very middle-eastern feel to it. That was a nice change for the series. So it’s beautiful but confusing. And like most Final Fantasies you have to grind your levels to get anywhere in some of the harder areas and I hate grinding. It can get insane, especially in the newer games, the amount of work and time it takes to gain one ability or level. But thanks to the combat system that plays the game for itself people were able to figure out ways to get to certain areas, set up your characters in a certain way and literally walk away. You’d come back ten or fifteen hours and your characters would have gained sixty levels. Is it cheating? No, I’ve always considered it “exploiting a kink in the games armor”. And I have so much fun just walking around in this game that it makes it a lot easier. I can’t imagine trying to grind your characters the old fashioned way in this game. That “kink” also makes most of this games secrets a lot more attainable than most of the other Final Fantasies, since the others all require you to actually be playing to gain levels.

I really think it was the strange combat, the somewhat uninteresting story and the Playstation 3’s release that killed this games momentum. Well, I listed it as one of my favorite games so take my word for it, go in with an open mind and give it a shot.

Favorite Moment: none really. I guess that’s a testament to how great this game is when I can’t pinpoint one moment I love over any others. I enjoy this whole game equally. If you’ve ever read any of my other threads I’ve gone on about how great Christmas 2006 and early 2007 was for me. This was the game that I was playing at that time so playing it just takes me back to a time when I was really happy and carefree.

Favorite Musical Piece: Prelude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQRu-jJd-IM) (probably the best version of the iconic Final Fantasy theme)







Final Fantasy (the series) could have topped this list. Like I said in the intro and have alluded to over the course of the thread I've spent probably more of my video game life playing Final Fantasy games than any other games. And I've also followed them pretty much everywhere they went (SNES, PS1, PS2, PS3). There are others in the series that I enjoyed a lot but they just didn't make the list. But there are some that have ranged from bad to awful. So I can't see Final Fantasies II, X, XIII or XV (even though it's not out yet I know it's going to suck) ranked ahead of any of the other games on this list, even as part of a group.

Final Fantasy is a thread on its own. If there's interest I'll do one.

adamclark52
03-20-2014, 08:39 AM
3.
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Chrono Trigger
Platform: Super Nintendo
Released: 1995
Publisher: Squaresoft

I donít know how my friend Eric came across this game in summer 1995. We were still avid readers of Nintendo Power and Gamepro magazines but Iíd never even heard about this game. So I went to his house one day and he was playing it and I was like, ďwhat the fuck is this?Ē. What the fuck is this indeed. How about one of the greatest games ever made? I really canít get into how great this game is with just a few paragraphs. Anyone whoís played it is just nodding their head right now in agreement. Anyone who hasnít played itÖjust play it. The graphics show their age but just play it. If youíre into old school RPGís this is the PERFECT game. From a time before goofy spiked hair and gender defying villains. The scenery, the characters, the music, there is nothing wrong with this game. Play the original SNES version because the Playstation remake had terrible lag and pointless anime cut-scenes.

Favorite Moment: the Belthasar's Nuís last moments in 2300AD. The Nu's were such a sad, confusing creature.

Favorite Musical Piece: Sealed Door (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7G-I2xquxc)

Natrlhi
03-20-2014, 09:57 AM
No disrespect to the effort you've put into this thread - I'm sure the gamer geeks are loving it - but I can't help but notice that your favorite game thread is as lacking in diversity due to Final Fantasy as Twatty's favorite movies thread was due to Harry Potter.

Not judgin', just sayin'. ;) :lol:

adamclark52
03-20-2014, 10:50 AM
No disrespect to the effort you've put into this thread - I'm sure the gamer geeks are loving it - but I can't help but notice that your favorite game thread is as lacking in diversity due to Final Fantasy as Twatty's favorite movies thread was due to Harry Potter.

Not judgin', just sayin'. ;) :lol:

Goddamn it I knew someone was going to make that reference.

I had to induct those Final Fantasies separate because if I'd inducted the series as a whole some shitty games would've gotten included. And they have no business in this list. The thing is with Final Fantasy games if you haven't played one they all look the same. But if you've followed the series as long as I have you notice enough differences that make each game, in some ways, totally different from the last. Especially the newer ones.

But there are no more Final Fantasies on this list.

El Gordo
03-20-2014, 11:09 AM
Twatty

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you called him that before? That's fucking funny.

John The Drummer
03-20-2014, 11:51 AM
I first played Chrono Trigger maybe 4-5 years ago, but the DS version, and I was hooked. It BARELY made it to my list simply due to the fact I didn't get a lot of time with it, so I couldn't FULLY embrace it, such an amazing game though.

Natrlhi
03-20-2014, 11:54 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have you called him that before? That's fucking funny.

By the way...in light of Twatty's recent "thread heard 'round the forum", the above list of movies would be a pretty good start for my own personal list if I were to ever make one. I think only two or three of the above films made his list.That's such a cruel nickname for the poor kid.:lol: I just took the acronym TWATY and modified it a bit. :eyes:

He's gonna have to get a thick skin sometime if he's gonna survive around here. :D
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adamclark52
03-20-2014, 01:21 PM
I first played Chrono Trigger maybe 4-5 years ago, but the DS version, and I was hooked. It BARELY made it to my list simply due to the fact I didn't get a lot of time with it, so I couldn't FULLY embrace it, such an amazing game though.

I've had almost twenty years with that game so it always has a special place in my heart.

Thing is with that game (and a lot of other games on this list) is they have a sort if "you had to be there" vibe to them. I can see a kid today seeing Final Fantasy IV and walking away. Just like I do with the first generation games from before my time. There's just so damn much to choose from these days. Really, what would you rather *look* at: Final Fantasy IV or Final Fantasy XIII? A lot of the older games are going to get lost in time. Which is why threads like this and the other game threads are good.

Or threads like El Gordo's thrash thread. Keeping the memory alive.

adamclark52
03-21-2014, 12:21 AM
2.
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The Mass Effect Series
Platform: Playstation 3 (for me)
Released: 2007, 2010 and 2012
Publisher: Bioware/Electronic Arts

I can’t rate these as individual games because I see the series all as one. I can’t play Mass Effect without immediately starting Mass Effect 2 the second after I beat it, and likewise for the third game.

All three games offer something a little different from the other. With the first there’s an air of innocence to it. Bad stuff is happening but you really don’t know how bad things will get later on in the series. It’s really sad watching some of these characters and how naÔve they are when you know how totally fucked up they get in the third game. And there are more traditional RPG elements in the first one, more customization and a bit greater emphasis on building your stats. If there’s any problem I guess the combat is a little weak, the graphics are a little dated and the music in the clubs on the Citadel isn’t as PUMPING as the later games.

The second game, to me, feels like a small part of a much bigger story. It doesn’t have the huge, galactic consequences like the first and third. It just feels like a small group of people having their problems while the rest of the galaxy just goes about it’s business without noticing them. I find the combat and gameplay much better in this game but a lot of people may be turned off by the fact that it’s less RPG and more action. And Liara T'Soni is barely in it.

The third game is most famous for its controversial ending. People focused solely on the ending when it came out and looked past the forty hours of awesome leading up to it. If you ask me the ending was fine and this is the best entry in the series. The combat is phenomenal, the story is epic, and there are moments that will last with you long after the game is over. It's exhausting though. The final sequence from the battle in orbit around Earth to the final scene is just so intense. I can’t help but be totally immersed in the Mass Effect universe when I’m playing this game.

Overall, the series has some of the best writing, best action, best settings and probably the best characters of any game. Yeah it may have aped a few things that had already been done in Star Wars or Star Trek. But they got those ideas from somewhere else too and I'm sure in twenty years other gams will be using those ideas again. People mock me for how in love I am with these games but I don’t really care. I care about Tali’s well being, I take ten minutes to decide between Kaidan or Ashley, I do my best to help Joker and EDI sort out their relationship and I’m in love (not lust, love) with Liara. It’s defiantly the best series of the last five years, maybe even ten. And I personally hope there never is a forth game because the way it ended was perfect.

Favorite Moment (Mass Effect): the conversation with Vigil on Ilos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUdYxa6r_bI)
Favorite Moment (Mass Effect 2): the first time you walk into Club Afterlife (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMBN8ZxBaaU)
Favorite Moment (Mass Effect 3): this is another one where it's hard to choose one scene in particular. But I really enjoyed the party at the end of the Citadel DLC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP9OYz9J4EA)

Favorite Musical Piece (Mass Effect): Vigil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7f-g5dWfGk)
Favorite Musical Piece (Mass Effect 2): the Illusive Mans theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBLOvSb56Vc)
Favorite Musical Piece (Mass Effect 3): Purgatory club music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW8UxuRNDeQ), that needs to be playing on an endless loop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoawijHFsMk) wherever I am

Alduin
03-21-2014, 05:48 AM
I started playing the first mass effect a few weeks ago ( bought it for 4 bucks on Xbox live) and was really starting to get into it, but then Dark Souls 2 came out so I probably won't get back into it for awhile, but I will for sure one day

Dextrimental
03-21-2014, 06:00 AM
Right there with you brother. Huge Mass Effect fan myself. The new games will apparently be a trilogy completely separate to the original, expanding the universe even more.

adamclark52
03-21-2014, 07:14 AM
Right there with you brother. Huge Mass Effect fan myself. The new games will apparently be a trilogy completely separate to the original, expanding the universe even more.

I have no problem with that. I really enjoyed reading up on the history and lore of its universe. I just can't see how any game could be set after this trilogy. People ragged that the endings were all the same except "one's red, one's green and one's blue" but really the consiquences of the three were all totally different. They would have to program three totally different games into one game.

adamclark52
03-22-2014, 04:10 PM
1.
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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series
Platform: Xbox
Released: 2003, 2004
Publisher: Bioware/LucasArts (KotOR), Obsidian Entertainment/LucasArts (the Sith Lords)

Truth be known: I am a huge Star Wars fan

Truth be told: there aren’t very many good Star Wars video games

I love pretty much anything to do with Star Wars, but up until 2003 there weren’t that many good Star Wars games. The Super Nintendo trilogy was good but there are a lot of better games out there. And for every one of those rare good games there were two shits like Star Wars: Knights of Terra Kasi, Star Wars: Obi-Wan and Star Wars: the Phantom Menace – the Game (barf). Even the much-lauded Shadows of the Empire (on Nintendo 64) really only had one good level: the first stage on Hoth. But in 2003 Bioware unleashed Knights of the Old Republic and changed EVERYTHING. Every Star Wars game that came after this has had to live up to this and the quality of games since then has greatly increased (Force Unleashed, Battlefront, Lego: Star Wars).

Set four thousand years before the movies Knights of the Old Republic was able to do something with the Star Wars license that I love seeing; that is use the lore, technology and history of the Star Wars universe without being tied down by the same characters and scenarios we’ve all seen so much of. I love Luke and Chewie but it was so nice to see something new yet so familiar. I won’t get into the story too much because I’m trying to keep these under a few paragraphs but it’s your typical tale of redemption. But it’s fucking well done. Drew Karpyshyn (who also wrote for Mass Effect) really knows how to touch a nerve with me. Everything he’s written (including the wonderful Darth Bane trilogy of books) is absolute gold. There are great characters in this game, great locations and great visuals. It’s truly a dream come true for a Star Wars fan. I always loved Star Wars but when I first played this in summer of 2007 it reinvigorated that love. If there are any problems it’s that the game hasn’t aged well. It looks eleven years old. And the combat isn’t that great. It's very similar to Final Fantasy XII but a little more interactive. Another little quip I've had with this game is that once you finish an area you can go back to it (except a few important storyline areas). The only problem is the items are all gone (obvious) and there are no enemies. So you're left with a huge, empty area. I would've preferred they either a) made areas completely inaccessible ala Mass Effect or b) (I prefer this one) have enemies respawn. Either would've been better. But the game makes up for all that with sheer awesomeness.

Its sequel is probably a better game. You can customize your characters with a lot more depth and that made for a more fulfilling experience for me. And you can get a silver lightsaber, which is fucking awesome. But what holds it back (and I mean really holds it back) is that it’s completely incomplete. The story was that the developers had two or three years after the first game to do a sequel. So they happily went about their work until a year into the project when Lucasarts said they wanted the game in four months, for Christmas. So they pretty much had to wrap up everything they had and release it “as it”. What was left was a buggy, incomplete mess with a shit-ton of loose ends and dead ends.

There was a sort-of sequel released in the MMORPG the Old Republic but it was set some five hundred years later and doesn’t answer any of the direct questions like “what happened to this character” or “how did this end up”. Mind you I haven't played the Old Republic or read any of the books tied into it so I may be completely wrong. But these characters deserve another game, not a paragraph in a book. There have been rumors of a third proper game for almost ten years. Who knows if we’ll ever get to see it, but I seriously doubt it.

Favorite Moment (Knights of the Old Republic): just being in Ahto City on Manaan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvy6D4NYAQQ), the music, the water, the sun, so relaxing
Favorite Moment (Knights of the Old Republic II: the Sith Lords): when you finally get your fucking lightsaber (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3OwdoQLxO0). It only took nine goddamn hours.

Favorite Musical Piece (Knights of the Old Republic): Ahto City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD4YUEd18R0)


EDIT: I should also mention that my youngest sons name is Logan REVAN Clark, after the legendary protagonist in these games.

adamclark52
03-22-2014, 04:13 PM
So here's the tl;dr version of the list:

25. Splnter Cell: Chaos Theory
24. Dragon Quest IV
23. Rockband 2
22. The Legend of Zelda: a Link to the Past
21. Super Mario 64
20. Final Fantasy IX
19. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
18. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
17. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
16. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
15. Final Fantasy Tactics
14. Halo: Combat Evolved
13. Super Meteroid
12. Secret of Mana
11. Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
10. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
9. Dragon Quest VIII
8. The Ninja Gaiden Series
7. Valkyrie Chronicles
6. Final Fantasy VI
5. Final Fantasy IV
4. Final Fantasy XII
3. Chrono Trigger
2. The Mass Effect series
1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Series

And here's a list of some other shit that should’a, could’a, would’a made this list…but didn’t:
• Actraiser
• Animal Crossing
• Any of the other games in the Legacy of Kain series
• Castlevania: Lords of Shadow and any other Castlevania game
• Dragon Age 2
• Dragon Quest VII (a game that’s actually too long)
• Fallout 3 (that one was on the cusp)
• Final Fantasy
• Final Fantasy V
• Final Fantasy VII
• Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
• Lego: Star Wars
• Lesure Suit Larry 6
• Mario Kart
• Mario Kart 64
• Medal of Honor: Frontlines
• Megaman 2
• Megaman 4
• Metal Gear Solid
• Secret of Evermore
• Soul Blazer
• Star Wars: Jedi Academy
• Star Wars: the Force Unleased
• Super Mario Bros. 3
• WWE Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain

adamclark52
03-22-2014, 04:16 PM
So thatís that. Thanks for reading. I hope I touched a nerve with something you may have missed or brought back some memories. I had a lot of fun writing this and Iím having a lot of fun reading the other threads too. I know that doing this I really wanted to go back and play a lot of these old games. Itís just time for me, most of these games eat up weeks of your life so I donít even know where to start.

In another thread last week there was the discussion of metal and peoples criticism of ďwhen are you going to grow out of thatĒ? I get those comments with video games too. Well fuck that shit. Never. Iíll be thirty four years old next month, I have a wife and two kids, a really good job, fairly good health and lots of other stuff to occupy my time. Playing video games for five or six hours a week is my release. Without playing video games Iíd be miserable. Sure Iíd be a ďgrown upĒ but Iíd be a very unhappy one who drinks Labatt 50 and goes to union meetings to complain about why my dues are so high. Iím not that guy. I never will be that guy.

Even now a new generation of adamclark53 and adamclark54 are starting to play videogames, so it's safe to say that by the time Final Fantasy XXXIV comes out it will still have a Western audience to mock it's character design, criticize it's story...and waste hundreds of hours of its life unlocking the illusive green Chocobo.

BlackDiamond
03-22-2014, 08:40 PM
Thanks for posting this. This list brought back a lot of childhood memories for me. I'm 34 with 2 kids as well so playing video games has become harder and harder for me, but reading this thread makes me want to dust off the old SNES and just play the games that I loved playing back then. The games of old may have crappy graphics compared to the games of today but I find that I enjoyed them more and they had a greater replay value.

John The Drummer
03-23-2014, 10:36 AM
Great list, mang! Some similarities between my list and yours, and great titles on the "honorable mention" list as well (I forgot how awesome Here Comes The Pain was!!!!!).

Doing these lists and reading others certainly makes me want to get back into the good old days of gaming.... just cannot get married to many of the newer games, they just don't have that same feeling!

adamclark52
03-23-2014, 11:36 AM
I don't know about a "good old days of gaming". Games from the 1990's have the simple charm and the strong memories, but a lot of good games are still coming out today. I mean, three of my top five came out within the last ten years. Just like music/albums there's always good shit coming out that stands alongside the classics.

"Staying power" could be an issue. I've only been into Mass Effect for three years; Final Fantasy for twenty and Star Wars for thirty. Who's to say if in thirty years I'll still feel as strongly about Mass Effect as I do Star Wars or Final Fantasy.

John The Drummer
04-02-2014, 11:36 AM
Final Fantasy is a thread on its own. If there's interest I'll do one.

Im down :D

adamclark52
04-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Im down :D

Give me a few weeks to write it up. Haters are going to hate! Big time.