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PVH5150
12-14-2013, 09:39 AM
Welcome back, Mr. Jake E. Motherfuckin' Lee! First live concert in nearly 20 years.

Short, but ass kicking set. A nice mix of new and old.

1. The Ultimate Sin
2. Deceived
3. High Wire
4. War Machine
5. Shine On
6. Rock N Roll Rebel
7. Shout It Out
8. In A Dream
9. Rumblin' Train
10. Sun Red Sun
11. Feeder
12. Bark At The Moon

The Ghost at Number One
12-14-2013, 12:57 PM
Ass-kicking set...on paper. If you've seen the video, it was, unfortunately, a completely different story.

PVH5150
12-14-2013, 01:17 PM
Ass-kicking set...on paper. If you've seen the video, it was, unfortunately, a completely different story.

Jake was on fire. Whoever the hell is singing for him was drunk off his ass.

dcmetal108
12-14-2013, 05:56 PM
I didn't see video but pictures looked like the place was empty.

And fuck Eddie Trunk.

The Ghost at Number One
12-14-2013, 06:40 PM
I'm really, really happy that Jake's back, and I've already pre-ordered the album...but Jake was not on fire. He was constantly making mistakes, and indeed, the singer was a drunken idiot.

TonyD
12-14-2013, 08:53 PM
I didn't see video but pictures looked like the place was empty.

And fuck Eddie Trunk.

Not that it doesn't already apply, but why do you say that?
And yeah I saw a couple videos, pretty cringe inducing. The rest of the band looked pretty amateur and even Jake sounded sloppy and uninspired. Obviously it's been 20 years, but he couldn't play his own song as well as Zakk Wylde consistantly did in the past.

Onioner
12-14-2013, 09:18 PM
I showed up to support my friend Will Wallner who was direct support for the show. I left before Jake to catch The Hobbit midnight premiere with some friends though. By all accounts, both from people who stayed and from YouTube, I made a wise decision.

I do have to note however, the place was packed before Red Dragon Cartel went on. No idea if people walked out partway through or something, but before they went on it was impossible to get around because there was so many people.

And yes, Eddie Trunk is the tool to end all tools.

dcmetal108
12-14-2013, 09:40 PM
Eddie Trunk is making it where he is the only reason the band played and now he is again the greatest gift to metal.

ravenheart
12-15-2013, 03:56 AM
Well this is very interesting. I have the album, and it's average at best, but they're playing Sweden Rock Festival next year and I was trying to decide whether to watch them.

The Ozzy-era material being there makes them a much more interesting prospect than if they were just doing the new album, but if they're still dogshit live by next Summer then maybe I won't bother.

ravenheart
12-15-2013, 07:08 AM
http://reddragoncartel.com/in-defense-of-darren-james-smith-2/

http://reddragoncartel.com/from-darren-james-smith-all-apologies/

dcmetal108
12-15-2013, 07:28 AM
http://reddragoncartel.com/in-defense-of-darren-james-smith-2/

http://reddragoncartel.com/from-darren-james-smith-all-apologies/

So he complained that was jet lag days before hand and taking prescription cough syrup then drinking too much made him suck. Then blamed it on a teleprompter before comparing himself to Elton John.

ravenheart
12-15-2013, 11:23 AM
So he complained that was jet lag days before hand and taking prescription cough syrup then drinking too much made him suck. Then blamed it on a teleprompter before comparing himself to Elton John.

The rest of the band (probably Jake) did that.

He just apologised.

dwils65
12-15-2013, 02:14 PM
I met Jake on the "Bark at the Moon" tour. One of the nicest band guys I have met. He hung out with us for about 40 minutes after the show. I was really hoping for better. Maybe things will pick up.

TonyD
12-15-2013, 09:43 PM
Does anybody else think that it's kind of weird that the band name makes you think of Black Label Society?

ravenheart
12-16-2013, 01:50 AM
I bet there's a whiskey somewhere called Red Dragon...

EDIT: turns out not. But there is a gay cocktail, which seems slightly fitting: http://www.welsh-whisky.co.uk/About-Penderyn/Cocktails/Red-Dragon.aspx