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PVH5150
11-24-2013, 04:40 AM
First show of the Super Collider tour with Nonpoint & Fear Factory, via SetlistFM.

Nothing for FF at the moment.

Nonpoint
1. Victim
2. What A Day
3. The Truth
4. That Day
5. International Crisis
6. There's Going To Be A War!
7. Bullet With A Name

Megadeth
1. Hangar 18
2. Wake Up Dead
3. In My Darkest Hour
4. Kingmaker
5. Sweating Bullets
6. Set The World Afire
7. A Tout Le Monde
8. She Wolf
9. Trust
10. Tornado of Souls
11. Symphony of Destruction
12. Peace Sells

13. Holy Wars...The Punishment Due

toolfansat
11-24-2013, 04:42 AM
Nice to see that once again, Dave is really switching up the setlist from tour to tour! :D

PVH5150
11-24-2013, 04:45 AM
Nice to see that once again, Dave is really switching up the setlist from tour to tour! :D

At least Set The World Afire is a nice addition.

That being said, I doubt I'll go to this next weekend. Saw them at Gigantour last year in Lowell, where there were more openers than this tour...and they still had a longer setlist than this.

Maideneer
11-24-2013, 05:45 AM
Interesting opener choice, same stale setlist jesus. I hope FF rocks it next week.

MPF
11-24-2013, 06:06 AM
So I missed this last night. I really wanted to go to, thanks a lot unknown medical problems causing me to miss every MN show now.

hellawaits77ny
11-24-2013, 06:29 AM
Only 13 songs? That's not cool.

Breaking The Law
11-24-2013, 06:37 AM
Only one song off the new album? I will pass this time.

sarsip
11-24-2013, 06:37 AM
Not worries about missing this one. What I don't understand? MegaDave has so many great songs to play..........

MPF
11-24-2013, 06:43 AM
Only one song off the new album? I will pass this time.

That's the best thing of the set! There is only one.

Sanitarium78
11-24-2013, 06:55 AM
Only one song off the new album? I will pass this time.

That's more of a reason to go. Supercollider is just an awful album.

I know it's been discussed on other threads before but Megadeth really needs to take a couple years off. They tour too damn much and now their sets are only 13 songs? Talk about screwing the fans over that came to see you. Seriously, if you've already seen them live what on earth would make you want to see them again at this point? They're one of my favorite bands and even I have no desire to see them again.

Maideneer
11-24-2013, 07:27 AM
Overkill is only doing 13 songs this tour too. It's a co-headline with Kreator, but still. I feel like we fans are paying more and more and are getting less and less. I used to routinely go to national headliner shows like Megadeth, Maiden, Metallica, Slayer where the standard was 18+ songs and ticket prices were normal (I paid $10, face value btw to see Bruce Dickinson at a hole in the wall in NYC for the Accident of Birth tour, he played 15 songs).

Now it's like reducing the size of the Big Mac while jacking up the price by 50%. It's so frustrating I can't describe it. No Megadeth show should be anywhere near $40 for 13 songs. But from the band point of view, they are working smart, not hard. If you had to put in a shorter work day but bring in double pay, I'd do it too.

Sanitarium78
11-24-2013, 08:35 AM
Overkill is only doing 13 songs this tour too. It's a co-headline with Kreator, but still. I feel like we fans are paying more and more and are getting less and less. I used to routinely go to national headliner shows like Megadeth, Maiden, Metallica, Slayer where the standard was 18+ songs and ticket prices were normal (I paid $10, face value btw to see Bruce Dickinson at a hole in the wall in NYC for the Accident of Birth tour, he played 15 songs).

Now it's like reducing the size of the Big Mac while jacking up the price by 50%. It's so frustrating I can't describe it. No Megadeth show should be anywhere near $40 for 13 songs. But from the band point of view, they are working smart, not hard. If you had to put in a shorter work day but bring in double pay, I'd do it too.

I understand getting a shorter set when it's a co-headlining but Megadeth is the headliner for this tour. It's just unacceptable for a band that's been around for almost 30 years with their catalog to play only 13 songs. Maybe they are working smarter not harder but with the amount of touring they've been doing the last few years, I wonder how much money they're really bringing in from ticket sales? Gigantour sold like shit and I doubt this tour is doing that great for them. In the past year they've tour North America at least three times. The CTE 20th anniversary tour, Gigantour and now this one. There's just no way that Megadeth is that strong of a concert draw today.

I wonder what the true reason is behind their endless touring over the last 3 or 4 years?

MetalIsArt
11-24-2013, 08:55 AM
I understand getting a shorter set when it's a co-headlining but Megadeth is the headliner for this tour. It's just unacceptable for a band that's been around for almost 30 years with their catalog to play only 13 songs. Maybe they are working smarter not harder but with the amount of touring they've been doing the last few years, I wonder how much money they're really bringing in from ticket sales? Gigantour sold like shit and I doubt this tour is doing that great for them. In the past year they've tour North America at least three times. The CTE 20th anniversary tour, Gigantour and now this one. There's just no way that Megadeth is that strong of a concert draw today.

I wonder what the true reason is behind their endless touring over the last 3 or 4 years?

God has promised him an eternal life.

velvetgrass
11-24-2013, 09:24 AM
I wish I could see them in Madison tonight, especially with Tornado Of Souls in the set. I wish they would have played that when I saw them on Gigantour this past summer in Milwaukee. I'm surprised they're not playing more off Super Collider though, since now they're headlining with only two opening bands.

PVH5150
11-24-2013, 09:39 AM
I wish I could see them in Madison tonight, especially with Tornado Of Souls in the set. I wish they would have played that when I saw them on Gigantour this past summer in Milwaukee. I'm surprised they're not playing more off Super Collider though, since now they're headlining with only two opening bands.

I think Dave's aware that Jesus Christ himself hates Pooper Collider.

energymetal14
11-24-2013, 09:41 AM
Wow, what a ripoff. How Megadeth even gets any crowd these days blows my mind. Short setlist consisting of the same songs they've been playing for way too long. Plus they've come around so many times recently. And for me I don't wanna give Dave Mustaine any of my money so he can stand onstage and say a bunch of bullshit.

Maideneer
11-24-2013, 09:43 AM
And for me I don't wanna give Dave Mustaine any of my money so he can stand onstage and say a bunch of bullshit.

Um, he's been doing that since 1985.

energymetal14
11-24-2013, 09:47 AM
Um, he's been doing that since 1985.

:lol: I guess you're right.

TonyD
11-24-2013, 11:57 AM
Playing less songs per show is not at all "working smarter". I know it's exhausting playing heavy metal on stage but the amount of energy they save by playing a couple fewer songs is nothing compared to just getting from one stage to the next.

People are going to leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not want to see Megadeth the next time around. That's on top of the sub-par new material and Dave's weird semi-political ramblings working against ticket sales.

illuminatus917
11-24-2013, 12:15 PM
Whenever I've seen Megadeth Dave just cut up and talked about funny shit. One time he started talking about jizzing in socks.

It was never anything political.

Travis The Dragon
11-24-2013, 01:11 PM
Playing less songs per show is not at all "working smarter". I know it's exhausting playing heavy metal on stage but the amount of energy they save by playing a couple fewer songs is nothing compared to just getting from one stage to the next.

People are going to leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not want to see Megadeth the next time around. That's on top of the sub-par new material and Dave's weird semi-political ramblings working against ticket sales.

Exactly! Look at Iron Maiden as an example. They're in the same age category and always put on a 2 hour show with tons of energy. This is just another "fuck you" to the fans from Dave himself.

Onioner
11-24-2013, 03:17 PM
Playing less songs per show is not at all "working smarter". I know it's exhausting playing heavy metal on stage but the amount of energy they save by playing a couple fewer songs is nothing compared to just getting from one stage to the next.

People are going to leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not want to see Megadeth the next time around. That's on top of the sub-par new material and Dave's weird semi-political ramblings working against ticket sales.

Bingo. With the shit new album and Dave being wacko, a stellar live show is the only possible route they have of looking good. Goddamn it, how did they go from being the best of the Big 4 to the worst in just four fricken years?

Jochen
11-24-2013, 04:04 PM
Wow, I was considering seeing them in Madison tonight. Not anymore. I'll wait til Youthanasia 20, if it happens.

Maideneer
11-24-2013, 04:09 PM
I don't necessarily mean I think they might be working smarter, but I think Dave thinks so, right or wrong. If it impacts attendance, we'll see. With these ridiculous prices and short set list, it maybe very hard to recover unless they start playing smaller venues and get the $ in line again with the proportion of entertainment.

IrritatedTrout
11-24-2013, 04:16 PM
Wow, glad I'm not going to the DC show then. I love Megadeth and I'll always go see them when the set is good but this one is very, very weak. Only 3 more songs then when I saw them open for Maiden in Raleigh this past September. And those extra three are overplayed anyways.

I'll wait for the Youthanasia tour next year.

TheNobleFaceHumper
11-24-2013, 08:37 PM
I have 2 free tickets and a photo pass for Orlando so I'm going, but it's primiarly to see Fear Factory. I've never seen megadeth play Tornado Of Souls, which is my favorite song of theirs, so i kinda feel oblidged to stay for their set.

BRAman22
11-24-2013, 08:51 PM
I have 2 free tickets and a photo pass for Orlando so I'm going, but it's primiarly to see Fear Factory. I've never seen megadeth play Tornado Of Souls, which is my favorite song of theirs, so i kinda feel oblidged to stay for their set.

Don't get too excited. They dropped it tonight with no replacement. 12 song set...

Ommie
11-24-2013, 08:53 PM
Don't get too excited. They dropped it tonight with no replacement. 12 song set...
Wow... not gonna lie, you guys got majorly gypped.

Was tempted to see this on Wednesday, but I won't bother until Megadeth takes a good break and can play an actual headline set.

BRAman22
11-24-2013, 09:00 PM
Yeah, with them just always playing the same shit and now cutting down the set to be ridiculously short I don't need to see Megadeth again for a long while.

apay93
11-25-2013, 04:58 AM
I was at the Madison show last night and I can't begin to describe how disappointed I am. I spent $43 on a ticket and drove 5+ hours for this show (it's a long story why I drove that far) for an hour long performance (9:45 - 10:45) of only 12 songs as a HEADLINER with only 2 opening bands! I was hoping they'd at least play for an hour and a half with 17 or so songs, but I guess that's too much to expect of Dave these days. They also had Tornado of Souls listed on the set (see comments http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/megadeth/2013/orpheum-theatre-madison-wi-73c4ce61.html) but didn't even play that for some reason. Not to mention the sound quality was horrible - all bass and drums, hardly any guitars and vocals. The down-tuning didn't help either, which was extremely noticeable during Trust and Symphony. All of this was made even more ridiculous considering the fact that the other 2 bands sounded just fine.

Fear Factory was amazing and almost worth the trip themselves, though they also played a short set (unfortunately age has also taken some toll on his vocal range as he could not hit some of the higher notes, ex. Archetype)

1. The Industrialist
2. Shock
3. Edgecrusher
4. Damaged
5. Archetype
6. What Will Become?
7. Demanufacture
8. Replica

Nonpoint was good too, though I don't know any of their songs besides That Day and Bullet with a Name.

Maideneer
11-25-2013, 05:02 AM
Not bad for FF, I'm way more excited to see them right now than Megadeth when they pop on over here.

Maideneer
11-25-2013, 05:05 AM
Playing less songs per show is not at all "working smarter". I know it's exhausting playing heavy metal on stage but the amount of energy they save by playing a couple fewer songs is nothing compared to just getting from one stage to the next.

People are going to leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not want to see Megadeth the next time around. That's on top of the sub-par new material and Dave's weird semi-political ramblings working against ticket sales.

One note to add to this. Regular ticket sales might be down, but I bet there's a shit ton of suckers out there doing the VIP package thing, which makes up a lot of lost revenue. When you only have to sell 1 VIP package ($200 frickin' dollars) per 5 tickets lost, I bet you the revenue evens out quite a bit. Plus merch sales...Dave's ego has to be through the roof but in the end he is fooling himself.

IrritatedTrout
11-25-2013, 06:46 AM
12 songs? Sad.

Jasonic
11-25-2013, 07:35 AM
Nice to see that once again, Dave is really switching up the setlist from tour to tour! :D

Yeah, so that's the 3rd US run this year with essentially the same setlist.

I have seen them twice already.

Maybe its because they invested all the $$ into the elaborate stage show / video they have to go with each song?

Still, comes across lazy.

Just as lazy as their tour packages have been too.

leglessmoof
11-25-2013, 07:48 AM
It's been a few years since I've seen Megadeth live. After seeing this thread, I looked back to the previous times I've seen Megadeth to see how many songs they played.

2004 (The System Has Failed tour) -- 21 songs
2005 (Gigantour) -- 19 songs
2006 (Gigantour 2) -- 17 songs
2010 (Rust In Peace tour) -- 16 songs
2010 (American Carnage w/ Slayer) -- 12 songs

Looking forward to seeing them play 10 songs in 2014, LOL. :tongue:

IrritatedTrout
11-25-2013, 08:12 AM
This time last year they were playing a good length setlist with all the deep cuts from Countdown. So clearly they can play normal lengths with interesting material, they just choose not to a lot recently. :hmm:

velvetgrass
11-25-2013, 01:47 PM
I was at the Madison show last night and I can't begin to describe how disappointed I am. I spent $43 on a ticket and drove 5+ hours for this show (it's a long story why I drove that far) for an hour long performance (9:45 - 10:45) of only 12 songs as a HEADLINER with only 2 opening bands! I was hoping they'd at least play for an hour and a half with 17 or so songs, but I guess that's too much to expect of Dave these days. They also had Tornado of Souls listed on the set (see comments http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/megadeth/2013/orpheum-theatre-madison-wi-73c4ce61.html) but didn't even play that for some reason. Not to mention the sound quality was horrible - all bass and drums, hardly any guitars and vocals. The down-tuning didn't help either, which was extremely noticeable during Trust and Symphony. All of this was made even more ridiculous considering the fact that the other 2 bands sounded just fine.

Don't feel quite as bad about not making it to the Madison date then. Tornado Of Souls was the song I was most sad about missing based on setlists prior to the show and they didn't even play it. The only song I haven't seen live in this set is Set The World Afire. For a Super Collider World Tour headline date, for them to only play one song off the album is also disappointing. I know it's not a popular opinion but I think Super Collider is a great album, their best since United Abominations in my opinion. Anyway, if someone gets the Nonpoint set from the Madison show please post it here or on setlist.fm