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ravenheart
10-12-2013, 01:39 PM
Venue: Islington Academy
Set times: 20:30-21:55
Support: Aeon Zen

Queen of the Reich
Speak
Walk in the Shadows
The Whisper
En Force
Child of Fire
Warning
Where Dreams Go to Die
The Needle Lies
Prophecy
My Empty Room
Eyes of a Stranger
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Fallout
Take Hold of the Flame
Jet City Woman
Silent Lucidity
Empire

Travis The Dragon
10-12-2013, 01:57 PM
Only 2 new songs are performed? I would think QR would want to do at least 5 or 6 songs. Especially the ones that are going to be featured on the mini movie (http://www.anybodylistening.net/breakdownroom/index.php?topic=4921.0) coming out. I wonder why they're doing so little from the new album.

mankvill
10-12-2013, 02:30 PM
TATERTOT

ravenheart
10-12-2013, 02:35 PM
TATERTOT

No, the other one.

ravenheart
10-12-2013, 02:39 PM
Only 2 new songs are performed? I would think QR would want to do at least 5 or 6 songs. Especially the ones that are going to be featured on the mini movie (http://www.anybodylistening.net/breakdownroom/index.php?topic=4921.0) coming out. I wonder why they're doing so little from the album.

Several reasons, but the main ones are: no one cares about it, and the original shows on the Return To History tour were cancelled, these are the make-up shows, so they're playing more or less the same setlist as the US has been getting.

Plus, if they added more new ones, you know the ones to be sacrificed are going to be the rare ones, not Silent Lucidity and Empire, so it's better this way.

ravenheart
10-12-2013, 05:15 PM
Got to say though, Todd La Torre is awesome. The new album really doesn't do justice to how he handles vocals in Queensryche.

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Onioner
10-12-2013, 07:37 PM
Got to say though, Todd La Torre is awesome. The new album really doesn't do justice to how he handles vocals in Queensryche.

Damn straight.

The Ghost at Number One
10-13-2013, 11:43 AM
Several reasons, but the main ones are: no one cares about it, and the original shows on the Return To History tour were cancelled, these are the make-up shows, so they're playing more or less the same setlist as the US has been getting.

Plus, if they added more new ones, you know the ones to be sacrificed are going to be the rare ones, not Silent Lucidity and Empire, so it's better this way.I get what you're saying, but I think people actually do care about the new album. I love it, and everyone I know that's into Queensryche loves it, and would prefer to hear more new stuff live. Honestly, I'd sacrifice songs like En Force and Child of Fire to get others like In This Light and Spore.

Travis The Dragon
10-13-2013, 01:59 PM
Several reasons, but the main ones are: no one cares about it, and the original shows on the Return To History tour were cancelled, these are the make-up shows, so they're playing more or less the same setlist as the US has been getting.

Plus, if they added more new ones, you know the ones to be sacrificed are going to be the rare ones, not Silent Lucidity and Empire, so it's better this way.

Look at Queensryche's Facebook page, their forums, and the reviews on Amazon and then tell me nobody cares about the new album.

Breaking The Law
10-13-2013, 02:35 PM
I would expect them to play new songs, even if it's a make up show from dates scheduled before the albums release. Nothing worse than seeing a band with a new record out and having them play little off it.

ravenheart
10-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Look at Queensryche's Facebook page, their forums, and the reviews on Amazon and then tell me nobody cares about the new album.

That's irrelevant. What the crowd things is what's relevant, so I'm judging it by the flat audience and mass exodus for the toilets/bar/smoking area when they played new songs. Especially when 'Fallout' sounded like complete shit (Where Dreams Go To Die sounded fantastic though), versus the huge response things like Child of Fire, Whisper, Prophecy etc. got, because those are the songs people want to see and those are the ones likely to get dropped for more new songs.

QR did absolutely the right thing with this set. European crowds would have been more than pissed to never get the Return To History set because of a cancellation.

Now, if they'd barely played any new songs on a new NA tour, after you already had the Return To History set, that's different.

Give thinking outside the US a shot. It'll do wonders for your perspective ;)

The Ghost at Number One
10-13-2013, 05:02 PM
Honestly, it has nothing to do with "thinking outside the U.S." The thing is, very little of the U.S. has even gotten the chance to see Queensryche. They really haven't played many shows here, and those that have been played are in very random spots in the country. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, which is a bit of a music/concert hotbed, and they've yet to book a date anywhere near me. I thought they'd want to capitalize on the surge in support surrounding all the Tate drama, but that didn't turn out to be the case.

ravenheart
10-13-2013, 05:36 PM
Honestly, it has nothing to do with "thinking outside the U.S." The thing is, very little of the U.S. has even gotten the chance to see Queensryche. They really haven't played many shows here, and those that have been played are in very random spots in the country. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, which is a bit of a music/concert hotbed, and they've yet to book a date anywhere near me. I thought they'd want to capitalize on the surge in support surrounding all the Tate drama, but that didn't turn out to be the case.

To be honest, I don't think either of them has come out of the split drama all that well. This venue they played in London is less than half the size of what they were playing with Tate still in the band, even on tours for shitty albums, and it wasn't sold out either. Elsewhere the Dublin venue got downgraded, and the show in Oulu got cancelled altogether.

I don't think it's a lack of desire to capitalise on opportunity at all, I think it's a serious lack of opportunity and the random cities/venues they're playing is because that's all they can get. Same goes for Tate.

On this tour, if they were playing six new songs a night and dropped a bunch of the old stuff people have been waiting a decade or more to hear, they'd be playing to even smaller crowds, or at best the same size crowd with half the enthusiasm. Especially at the prices they're charging (last night was equivalent to roughly $40 for a ticket, and $30 for a shirt).

Where Europe is concerned, they should have spent the Summer playing a bunch of rock festivals, where everyone loves a nostalgia set, instead of the random little pockets of US shows they played. Then they could have come back in October with a new album set and everyone would have gone to see them again assuming they impressed at the festivals, which I have no doubt they would have on the strength of last night. Then focus on doing NA properly.

ravenheart
10-13-2013, 05:47 PM
Incidentally, I'm not against more new songs (the album is alright, it's nothing special), if they're going to play longer. They seem fixed on only playing 1h25m - 1h30m per night, so if new songs mean replacing the old ones they're playing, then no. If it's in addition to everything else, great.

They should also pick better songs. Fallout is the wrong choice when things like Don't Look Back and Open Road exist.

I'd still rather The Lady Wore Black and London were added than anything off the new album (given that Where Dreams Go To Die is already in).

The Ghost at Number One
10-13-2013, 05:47 PM
Tate's played in San Francisco twice in the last few months, so the opportunity is definitely there. I've no idea, however, how things went as far as turnout is concerned.

Regarding the set, I think they could stand to add a handful of songs, both new and old. With a catalog as large as theirs, there's no reason they shouldn't be playing at least two hour sets.

ravenheart
10-13-2013, 05:57 PM
Tate's played in San Francisco twice in the last few months, so the opportunity is definitely there. I've no idea, however, how things went as far as turnout is concerned.

I'd be interested to see the turn-out if he comes here. I'd definitely go, because frankly, I like 'Frequency Unknown' more than I like 'Queensryche', but I strongly suspect most fans have "sided" with the others than Tate. Childish though that is.

Regarding the set, I think they could stand to add a handful of songs, both new and old. With a catalog as large as theirs, there's no reason they shouldn't be playing at least two hour sets.

Definitely. And they used to. Another half hour of material would be plenty of time to plunder the best of the new album, and add another couple of classics that have been missing for years. They're forcing the choice between the songs people really want to hear, and the new ones, on themselves by only playing 90 minutes.