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Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 06:13 AM
Chinese Democracy
Welcome to the Jungle
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Estranged:drool::drool:
Better
Rocket Queen
Richard Fortus Guitar Solo
Live and Let Die
This I Love
Used to Love Her
Motivation (Tommy Stinson song)
Dizzy Reed Piano Solo
Catcher in the Rye
You Could Be Mine
DJ Ashba Guitar Solo
Sweet Child O' Mine
Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 (with Axl on piano)
Axl Rose Piano Solo
November Rain
Objectify (Bumblefoot cover)
Don't Cry
Civil War:rocker:
Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Jam
Nightrain

Encore:
Jam
Patience
The Seeker (The Who cover)
Jam
Paradise City

Awesome show!!! The first time since 1992 that GnR has played here. Which was also the last time I saw them. No issues with Axl being late at all. The opening band Monster Truck, a blues based rock band from Hamilton, Ontario ended a little after 930. There was a very quick change over and about five minutes after 10 GnR hit the stage and played until almost 1am.

Axl was in great form last night. Since it had been so long since I saw them last I wasn't sure if age slowed down what he did on stage. It hasn't, as he was running around the stage and doing all his signature stage moves the whole show and his voice was sounding great during it to. A few rough spots for him vocally but overall he did a hell of a job. If anyone has any doubts about who Axl has picked to be in this "new" version of the band, this show will kill those doubts immediately. He's got a very talented group of musicians with him and they play all the old material true to how the songs were originally. So fans don't have to worry about some new guy playing Slash's parts and ruining them because the new dude put his own twist on it. Now, I'm not a huge fan of solos/jams at concerts. I prefer a band to get out there and play their songs with no BS in between. But the way GnR does the solos and jams is different. They weren't pointless like a lot of bands do and they actually have a nice groove to them and it would easily transition into the next song. Bands should take a lesson from these guys on how to incorporate jams and solos into the set and make it seem natural and not boring.

I guess this show ran a little past some people's bed time. The last hour of the show saw a decent amount of people leave. The gate opened at 8 and the opening band didn't come on until around nine. You think that would give people the idea ahead of time that this was gonna be a late one? My friend who I went with had to be into work at 630 this morning and even he was wondering why people were leaving early and not getting their money's worth out of the show? It was great to hear my two favorite songs from them Estranged and Civil War. Definitely the two highlights of the show for me along with the stuff from Appetite. Everything sounded great though. People didn't seem to react too much to the Chinese Democracy material though. The four songs they did were some of the better songs from it. I like the album but I don't think it will ever get fully accepted into the fan base.

The venue was great. This is the second year they've had concerts at the Buffalo outer harbor. This was my first time attending a show there and it's just a stage set up on the open grass right on the shore of Lake Erie. It's a great place to have shows at. I will be seeing Alice Cooper there next week. Hopefully this thing is a success and they can bring in more bands each summer who haven't been here in awhile like they did with GnR.

adamclark52
06-06-2013, 08:33 AM
I'd bug out for Estranged too, probably my favorite G'n'R song. I can remember when Muchmusic played the fuck out of that video and I never got tired of it.

Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 12:06 PM
I'd bug out for Estranged too, probably my favorite G'n'R song. I can remember when Muchmusic played the fuck out of that video and I never got tired of it.

It was the same with MTV in the states. They pretty much played the shit out of every GnR video from '87-'94. The fact that the videos for November Rain and Estranged were shown full length all the time really gives people an idea of how big and untouchable the band was 20 something years ago. It's was rare that bands were allowed to get away with ten minute hit songs at that point in time. But they were so huge that people only cared about them being great songs and not how long they were.

PVH5150
06-06-2013, 02:54 PM
Mods, pls change title to "The Axl Rose Experience"

Travis The Dragon
06-06-2013, 03:29 PM
Mods, pls change title to "The Axl Rose Experience"

:lol: I hope he does a huge USA tour and it has to be canceled because of lack of ticket sales. I'd love to see that loser Axel and his huge fucking ego completely destroyed.

snowdog2112
06-06-2013, 03:44 PM
How are shows at the Harbor? People on top of people or can you move around a bit?
How big was the crowd for GNR? Traffice getting out? Might go to Cooper next week

Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 03:45 PM
Mods, pls change title to "The Axl Rose Experience"

Does the same go for any Black Sabbath setlists posted one here when Iommi was the only original member of the band? How about the new Alice In Chains? Anthrax setlists from when John Bush was the vocalist? Do they change the names of all those as well?

No matter what you think this is Guns N Roses now. I grew up with the original band but I still consider this version to be GNR as well. It's the name that pays the bills and as long as people are willing to see them why shouldn't Axl carry on with that name? Bands members come and go a lot in the music world. Unfortunately nothing can be done to bring the old GNR back together. So we've gotta take what we can get and right now this is the only incarnation of the band we will see.

PVH5150
06-06-2013, 03:54 PM
Does the same go for any Black Sabbath setlists posted one here when Iommi was the only original member of the band? How about the new Alice In Chains? Anthrax setlists from when John Bush was the vocalist? Do they change the names of all those as well?

No matter what you think this is Guns N Roses now. I grew up with the original band but I still consider this version to be GNR as well. It's the name that pays the bills and as long as people are willing to see them why shouldn't Axl carry on with that name? Bands members come and go a lot in the music world. Unfortunately nothing can be done to bring the old GNR back together. So we've gotta take what we can get and right now this is the only incarnation of the band we will see.

Release your anus tension. It was in reference to the Slayer/Tom & Kerry Experience thread from yesterday.

Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 03:56 PM
:lol: I hope he does a huge USA tour and it has to be canceled because of lack of ticket sales. I'd love to see that loser Axel and his huge fucking ego completely destroyed.

You mean you didn't get your fill of Axl's ego being destroyed when everybody quit on him back in the mid 90s?

How are shows at the Harbor? People on top of people or can you move around a bit?
How big was the crowd for GNR? Traffice getting out? Might go to Cooper next week

It's a really good location. Both the set up and sound are good. If you're close to the stage it looks like it would be a bit cramped but overall there's lots of room there and you can move around pretty well. There's a nice cool breeze off the lake so you're not getting all hot and sweaty. It actually makes watching a show a very comfortable experience.

I would say the crowd was around 6,000-7,000. The concert area itself looks like it can hold about 10,000. The traffic was fine getting in and out, no major slow downs really. Last year they had some problems with traffic backing up on the skyway but this year they came up with a decent plan to stretch the traffic out and make it flow decently. You should go to Cooper, if for nothing else then to at least experience what a show is like at this location. Plus, the tickets are only $20 so why the hell not?

Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 04:03 PM
Release your anus tension. It was in reference to the Slayer/Tom & Kerry Experience thread from yesterday.

:lol:

I didn't read that thread until after the title was changed to Slayer. Totally missed that joke when it was first posted. I thought you were trying to turn this into another "is this really GNR or not?" debates.

Dextrimental
06-06-2013, 04:30 PM
I had the same reaction seeing these guys last year at Graspop. Hearing the classic Guns songs like 'You Could Be Mine', 'It's So Easy' and the absolute epic that is 'Estranged' with this line up is actually awesome. They do the music justice, and there's a lot of energy in the show and always something to keep an eye on.

I wouldn't be too quick to pay for an album from these guys, but the live shows are worth it. Specially nowadays that Axl is behaving and getting on stage on time.

Plus, fuckin' Bumblefoot! His version of 'Don't Cry' is beautiful and he can seriously shred any of the former band members under the table.

300%_Density
06-06-2013, 05:41 PM
Irony that Mustaine is a huge asshole in 2013 and Axl is pretty under the radar nowadays.

Sanitarium78
06-06-2013, 05:51 PM
Irony that Mustaine is a huge asshole in 2013 and Axl is pretty under the radar nowadays.

That's because Axl has grown up a bit over the years while Mustaine seems to have regressed more and more back into a child.

es156
06-06-2013, 07:02 PM
Mods, pls change title to "The Axl Rose Experience"

Release your anus tension. It was in reference to the Slayer/Tom & Kerry Experience thread from yesterday.

:lol:

Sepultura69
06-06-2013, 08:29 PM
Release your anus tension. It was in reference to the Slayer/Tom & Kerry Experience thread from yesterday.

;)

MetalIsArt
06-07-2013, 12:47 AM
A new album is forthcoming.

Read more about it in... 2019.

Sanitarium78
06-10-2013, 05:40 AM
A new album is forthcoming.

Read more about it in... 2019.

I heard the new album was supposed to be next year. But with how slow things moved getting the last one out, 2019 seems more realistic.

jhdeity
06-10-2013, 08:11 PM
That's because Axl has grown up a bit over the years while Mustaine seems to have regressed more and more back into a child.

well said.

Awesome setlist even with the needless solo's and jams. I'll tolerate 5 or 6 solo's and jams all day if you give me 24 f'n songs.

Sanitarium78
06-11-2013, 05:43 AM
well said.

Awesome setlist even with the needless solo's and jams. I'll tolerate 5 or 6 solo's and jams all day if you give me 24 f'n songs.

Exactly. Like I said in my review, the jams and solos had a purpose to them. Dizzy Reid's solo was him playing No Quarter from Zeppelin and the rest of the band joined in to play it with him. So it was pretty much just a instrumental of the song. With Axl's piano solo he played a little bit of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road from Elton John. That lasted all of two minutes then he went right into November Rain. The jams were nothing more than little two or three minute intros to the songs.

On an unrelated note, I was talking with a co-worker about this show and she told me her neighbors liked the song November Rain so much that they named their daughter that. I think that's pretty cool.

ravenheart
06-11-2013, 05:52 AM
On an unrelated note, I was talking with a co-worker about this show and she told me her neighbors liked the song November Rain so much that they named their daughter that. I think that's pretty cool.

Not for the poor little girl who has to walk around being called November Rain it's not.

ravenheart
06-11-2013, 05:54 AM
I'd go see GN'R several times per tour, as we know. But that setlist disappoints me. Apart from the Who cover it's basically exactly the same as all of last year. They used to change it up every night but it seems they don't want to anymore.

Sanitarium78
06-11-2013, 06:16 AM
Not for the poor little girl who has to walk around being called November Rain it's not.

I'm pretty sure her first name is November and the middle name is Rain.

I'd go see GN'R several times per tour, as we know. But that setlist disappoints me. Apart from the Who cover it's basically exactly the same as all of last year. They used to change it up every night but it seems they don't want to anymore.

Well, this was the first show on this short tour of theirs that the did Civil War. It was a nice surprise for me since I hadn't seen it in the other recent sets they were doing. I haven't seen them in over 20 years so I think this set was great. You can't go wrong when you get both Estranged and Civil War. Both Illusion albums can be better represented though. All they do now are the big hits off them. Songs like Bad Obsession and Locomotive would sound great live with this lineup.

ravenheart
06-11-2013, 06:24 AM
I'm pretty sure her first name is November and the middle name is Rain.

Yeah, I figured. November is still a pretty horrible first name.


Well, this was the first show on this short tour of theirs that the did Civil War. It was a nice surprise for me since I hadn't seen it in the other recent sets they were doing. I haven't seen them in over 20 years so I think this set was great. You can't go wrong when you get both Estranged and Civil War. Both Illusion albums can be better represented though. All they do now are the big hits off them. Songs like Bad Obsession and Locomotive would sound great live with this lineup.

Didn't realise they'd been dropping Civil War. Stupid thing to do.

I take it back though. Just noticed they've dropped Sorry and Shackler's Revenge. Also silly things to do. Those are great live.

Either way, I won't be fully happy until they do Coma.

jhdeity
06-13-2013, 06:36 AM
Yeah, I figured. November is still a pretty horrible first name.




Didn't realise they'd been dropping Civil War. Stupid thing to do.

I take it back though. Just noticed they've dropped Sorry and Shackler's Revenge. Also silly things to do. Those are great live.

Either way, I won't be fully happy until they do Coma.

Coma is one of my favorite GnR songs but I always thought it was a Slash song that he brought to the band. Seriously doubt Axl would play it...

JRA
06-13-2013, 06:50 AM
I'd go see GN'R several times per tour, as we know. But that setlist disappoints me. Apart from the Who cover it's basically exactly the same as all of last year. They used to change it up every night but it seems they don't want to anymore.

Meh, if they do 24 songs a night they don't need to switch jack shit.

Then again Rush played like 30 songs a night from 2002-2007 and they switched it up. Then again it was less people to learn.

ravenheart
06-13-2013, 07:07 AM
Meh, if they do 24 songs a night they don't need to switch jack shit.

They do, and they did. There's no reason why they can't continue to do it.

Dextrimental
06-13-2013, 08:34 AM
Either way, I won't be fully happy until they do Coma.

I'd pay for any Guns performance anywhere just to hear that live.

Sanitarium78
06-13-2013, 08:57 AM
Coma would be amazing to see. Have they ever played it live before?

ravenheart
06-13-2013, 09:05 AM
Coma would be amazing to see. Have they ever played it live before?

It was on the Japanese version of Live Era, so presumably they did at least once on the Illusion tour. Probably in Japan; they always seem to get the best shows. On the last Japanese Democracy tour they got a couple of 4+ hour shows. I would have loved that.

jhdeity
06-13-2013, 09:53 AM
It was on the Japanese version of Live Era, so presumably they did at least once on the Illusion tour. Probably in Japan; they always seem to get the best shows. On the last Japanese Democracy tour they got a couple of 4+ hour shows. I would have loved that.

Yeah I remember paying $50 for that import just to have that song. AND I already owned the original cd. Seems crazy now...