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BloodoftheKings
05-07-2013, 06:19 PM
Tim Lambesis, lead singer for the heavy metal band As I Lay Dying, has been arrested over accusations he sought the help of an undercover detective to have his estranged wife killed, police said.

Lambesis was taken into custody on Tuesday in Oceanside, California, after he solicited help from the detective, the San Diego County Sheriff's Department said in a statement. Police had previously learned Lambesis was seeking someone who could commit the slaying, the department said.

A representative for the As I Lay Dying's record label could not immediately be reached for comment, and it was unclear if Lambesis had an attorney.

The band's 2007 album "An Ocean Between Us" debuted at number 8 on the Billboard 200 list, and ranks as one of their top-selling releases. Last year, As I Lay Dying put out its sixth album, "Awakened." Lambesis is a founding member of the band, which was formed in San Diego

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/entertainment-us-usa-singer-arrest-idUSBRE94700Z20130508

EDIT: The title of the thread should probably be changed to "Tim Lambesis arrested for trying to hire a detective to kill his wife". His wife wasn't actually killed.

300%_Density
05-07-2013, 06:25 PM
What in the fuck is this?

anomynous
05-07-2013, 06:29 PM
shit is cray

anomynous
05-07-2013, 06:34 PM
Time to rename the band to As She Lays Dying

NickLed19
05-07-2013, 06:37 PM
Fuck...hopefully this is not true.

W0unds
05-07-2013, 06:41 PM
Crazy news

mankvill
05-07-2013, 06:51 PM
I don't think that's a proper way to use Kickstarter funds.

BloodoftheKings
05-07-2013, 06:52 PM
I don't think that's a proper way to use Kickstarter funds.

:lol:

mastodon421
05-07-2013, 06:56 PM
What the fuck? Hopefully this shit isn't true

Ommie
05-07-2013, 06:58 PM
I don't think that's a proper way to use Kickstarter funds.
Oh my sides...


This seems really odd. Hopefully it's not true. Innocent until proven guilty, etc.

anomynous
05-07-2013, 07:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/timlambesisofficial




All of my lulz

kalfitegrdan
05-07-2013, 07:21 PM
Oh shit! Somebody get this man a Casio keyboard so he can make the third Austrian Death Machine album right!

kalfitegrdan
05-07-2013, 07:22 PM
I don't think that's a proper way to use Kickstarter funds.

:LOLFC:

elturtleboy
05-07-2013, 07:26 PM
Now I know why Austrian Death Machine why they covered "Killing is my Business..."

Travis The Dragon
05-07-2013, 07:26 PM
Fuck! That is really messed up! I sure hope it turns out to not be true!

http://i43.tinypic.com/20gn1ix.png

dcmetal108
05-07-2013, 07:34 PM
Just something about this whole thing makes me think it's untrue.

PVH5150
05-07-2013, 07:37 PM
Someone should attempt to kill him for covering Electric Eye.

300%_Density
05-07-2013, 08:06 PM
Murder for Hire Plot Foiled Lead Singer for As I Lay Dying Arrested

Tim Lambesis, lead singer and co-founder for the heavy metal band, "As I Lay Dying" was arrested without incident today, May 7, 2013, at 2:00 p.m. in a retail business on Vista Way in Oceanside. Lambesis is charged with Solicitation of Another to Commit Murder. Information came to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department on May 2nd that Lambesis was soliciting another individual to kill his estranged wife, who resides in Encinitas. The Encinitas Detectives, The San Diego Fugitive Task Force and the Sheriff's Special Investigation Division investigators immediately initiated an investigation. The investigation culminated this afternoon, when Lambesis solicited an undercover detective to kill his wife. He was then arrested, transported to the Encinitas Station, and booked into the Vista Detention Facility

With this coming from the San Diego sheriffs site, leads me to believe it's pretty legit.

http://www.sdsheriff.net/ Scroll All the way to the bottom.

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-07-2013, 08:16 PM
If he solicited a undercover cop there is no doubt the incident was recorded via audio & perhaps on video as well. Stick a fork in his freedom.

anomynous
05-07-2013, 08:18 PM
gen1uXs9FXo

daimonos
05-07-2013, 08:23 PM
:lol:

OraclesofAgony
05-07-2013, 08:30 PM
I can't help but laugh at this.

XDoomsayerX
05-07-2013, 08:30 PM
Shiiit.

energymetal14
05-07-2013, 08:34 PM
WTF? I think I may be passing on the KSE show now (assuming they must be dropping from the tour), AILD was a main reason for me going. This is pretty ridiculous though.

XDoomsayerX
05-07-2013, 08:35 PM
Wonder what were the motives behind this, murder is a big fucking deal.

Should I not wear my AILD sweater anymore?

Ommie
05-07-2013, 09:02 PM
Should I not wear my AILD sweater anymore?
I would wait until a verdict has been reached.

dcmetal108
05-07-2013, 09:16 PM
Wonder what were the motives behind this, murder is a big fucking deal.

Should I not wear my AILD sweater anymore?

If its true wear it to shows and hate mosh.

Ommie
05-07-2013, 09:37 PM
If its true wear it to shows and hate mosh.
But it would be way more authentic if you hired someone to hate mosh for you.

dcmetal108
05-07-2013, 09:44 PM
But it would be way more authentic if you hired someone to hate mosh for you.

:lol:

swboyd
05-07-2013, 10:19 PM
"That night that I never came home.
Wandering souls captured my thoughts...
Emptiness filled my mind.
Urgency spoke her lies.
In the confines in these gray walls.
I watched them move together."

How prophetic indeed.

Namaste
05-07-2013, 10:21 PM
Phil is the only member, so far, that has made a post - https://www.facebook.com/philsgrossoofficial/posts/512382232155158

Hey everyone, we'll be making a public statement as a band shortly once we recieve more information on the current incident. Thank you all so much for your continued support as we go through this difficult situation.

TonyD
05-07-2013, 11:05 PM
Man, shit's about to get weird.

TheDeadPanda
05-07-2013, 11:31 PM
I'm not expecting them to tour ever again if this is true and he's convicted. But what's jail time on this type of crime?

treghet
05-07-2013, 11:35 PM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

treghet
05-07-2013, 11:39 PM
I'm not expecting them to tour ever again if this is true and he's convicted. But what's jail time on this type of crime?

The maximum sentence is 94 hours.

Northern_Shaman
05-07-2013, 11:46 PM
I'm not expecting them to tour ever again if this is true and he's convicted. But what's jail time on this type of crime?

Pretty sure that he could be facing upwards of 20 years for this. It depends what he's charged with, and I don't think that's known just yet, so it's still up in the air. Wouldn't be surprised if he was charged with conspiracy to commit murder ot something similar.

So fucked up.

Thanatos88
05-07-2013, 11:50 PM
The maximum sentence is 94 hours.

Fucking ded :lol:

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-08-2013, 12:34 AM
The maximum sentence is 94 hours.

LOL

TonyD
05-08-2013, 12:49 AM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

You're kidding right?

DisposableJustice
05-08-2013, 12:51 AM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

Tim Tebow is that you????

kalfitegrdan
05-08-2013, 01:58 AM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

Quote from his Facebook page?

treghet
05-08-2013, 02:40 AM
You're kidding right?

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s513/coolcrazyguy09/creepy-smile.gif

ravenheart
05-08-2013, 03:00 AM
Lord Jesus you are God

:eek:

I knew it! Never have seen them in the same room at the same time...

W0unds
05-08-2013, 06:00 AM
According to theprp this carries a sentence of 3-9 years:

If eventually found guilty, the Solicitation of Another to Commit Murder charge alone is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 3-9 years in California. According to the record provided, Lambesis is not currently eligible for bail.

300%_Density
05-08-2013, 06:12 AM
Gotta admit, I honestly figured it would have been more than 3-9 years.

RampinUp46
05-08-2013, 07:12 AM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

...Coming from the guy that voted "Fuck Christianity" in the religion in metal poll? :confused:

AnthG
05-08-2013, 07:43 AM
Gotta admit, I honestly figured it would have been more than 3-9 years.

I think it will be more.

"If eventually found guilty, the Solicitation of Another to Commit Murder charge alone is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 3-9 years in California. According to the record provided, Lambesis is not currently eligible for bail. "

I doubt that'll be the only charge.

smearCampaign
05-08-2013, 08:02 AM
Hiring someone to kill your wife doesn't sound very Christian.

Best AILD concert gif evar:
http://media.heavy.com/media/2012/08/tumblr_m0c2f5YDWY1rqlipeo1_400.gif

dcmetal108
05-08-2013, 09:16 AM
People are now saying his wife set him up. :lol:

This is odder than the whole Randy LOG deal.

TheDeadPanda
05-08-2013, 09:18 AM
People are now saying his wife set him up. :lol:

This is odder than the whole Randy LOG deal.

Where did you read that?

dcmetal108
05-08-2013, 09:21 AM
Where did you read that?

Comments from a few different guys from bands I have on facebook.

So far I've read that people believe his wife set him up and that he was in roid rage when it happened. It's quite funny.

energymetal14
05-08-2013, 09:26 AM
Comments from a few different guys from bands I have on facebook.

So far I've read that people believe his wife set him up and that he was in roid rage when it happened. It's quite funny.

LOL

Something just doesn't seem to add up here. Tim definitely seems like a meathead and all, but wanting his wife dead? Just weird. Nothing about the situation is funny, but yet it just kinda is.

TheDeadPanda
05-08-2013, 09:27 AM
Comments from a few different guys from bands I have on facebook.

So far I've read that people believe his wife set him up and that he was in roid rage when it happened. It's quite funny.

:lol: :lol:

energymetal14
05-08-2013, 09:27 AM
I just want to say a prayer for Tim and the band. Lord Jesus you are God and I am praying for Tim's salvation with you God. Cover him and speak to his heart and Spirit. Show him conviction with all of what is going on Lord. He made a mistake but these mistakes are not eternal Lord with you if we repent to you Jesus. I lift up the band cover them with your love and comfort and just cover all of the fans including me who may seem confused or heart broken for their favorite band God. In your name I pray the Son of the living God the Messiah Jesus Christ in your name Jesus Amen.

HAHA this is great!

adamclark52
05-08-2013, 10:40 AM
Some fucked up shit. Please tell me they don't have any kids.

300%_Density
05-08-2013, 10:43 AM
Sweet

He's taking the Marion Berry route, "Bitch set me up". Love it. He got re-elected. Maybe it works for Tim.

TheDeadPanda
05-08-2013, 10:44 AM
Some fucked up shit. Please tell me they don't have any kids.

3 adopted kids from the Philippines or something like that

dcmetal108
05-08-2013, 10:56 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/07/showbiz/singer-lambesis-arrested/index.html?sr=fb050813singerarrestehitman1130a

It's CNN official.

Also the comments on the article are fucking hysterical.

detuned
05-08-2013, 11:00 AM
3 adopted kids from the Philippines or something like that

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AlgG6l8CEAI1e-g.jpg

@timlambesis (https://twitter.com/timlambesis/status/168892589708283905)
Part of loving your family is not letting them go, even if they want to

dcmetal108
05-08-2013, 11:08 AM
He is one buff motherfucker.

He'll be leading the gang on the prison yard if its true.

imanidiot777
05-08-2013, 11:46 AM
3 adopted kids from the Philippines or something like that

Yeah. 3 kids from Ethiopia.

larvtard
05-08-2013, 11:49 AM
:eek:

I knew it! Never have seen them in the same room at the same time...

:lol:

John The Drummer
05-08-2013, 01:12 PM
Damn, so much for praying for Jesus and being all Christian and happy and shit. What a jackass, I am glad I never supported him or his shitty band (ADM was pretty fun though).

NickLed19
05-08-2013, 01:35 PM
The band is far from shitty, buddy.

dcmetal108
05-08-2013, 01:43 PM
The band is far from shitty, buddy.

This. One of the best is metalcore.

imanidiot777
05-08-2013, 02:13 PM
This. One of the best is metalcore.

That's not really saying much.

mankvill
05-08-2013, 02:27 PM
metalcore.

welp, time for me to leave this thead

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1thu8QnRW1qll2bmo1_250.gif

XDoomsayerX
05-08-2013, 03:22 PM
welp, time for me to leave this thead

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1thu8QnRW1qll2bmo1_250.gif

That ending caught me by surprise! :lol:

BloodoftheKings
05-08-2013, 03:28 PM
The band is far from shitty, buddy.

This. One of the best is metalcore.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/135/11a38ea1d94d455a9bb675bf7959e2b1/l.jpg

Travis The Dragon
05-08-2013, 04:06 PM
Something doesn't add up with all of this. AILD were over in China during the first week of this month so how could Tim have met with someone and asked them to kill his wife?

El Gordo
05-08-2013, 04:17 PM
Damn, so much for praying for Jesus and being all Christian and happy and shit. What a jackass, I am glad I never supported him or his shitty band (ADM was pretty fun though).

It's like you can read my fucking mind, dude!

anomynous
05-08-2013, 05:12 PM
To our fans,

As we post this, the legal process is taking it's course and we have no more information than you do. There are many unanswered questions, and the situation will become clearer in the coming days and weeks. We'll keep you informed as best we can.

Our thoughts right now are with Tim, his family, and with everyone else affected by this terrible situation - and with our fans, whom we love and draw strength from.

Thank you for understanding, and as always, for your support of As I Lay Dying.

- Jordan, Nick, Phil, and Josh



Real brave statement there

moobys37
05-08-2013, 05:34 PM
Real brave statement there

What did you expect really?

anomynous
05-08-2013, 05:46 PM
Nothing

treghet
05-08-2013, 05:50 PM
...Coming from the guy that voted "Fuck Christianity" in the religion in metal poll? :confused:

im a ~true christian~ now and i have renounced my love for the devil music i used to listen to.

christopher
05-08-2013, 05:55 PM
The maximum sentence is 94 hours.

:lol:

TonyD
05-08-2013, 05:58 PM
im a ~true christian~ now and i have renounced my love for the devil music i used to listen to.

But you still like The Conjuring.



Right?

treghet
05-08-2013, 06:05 PM
But you still like The Conjuring.



Right?

:naughty:

NickLed19
05-09-2013, 02:34 AM
Haters gonna hate. AILD is a great band.

MunicipalWasted
05-09-2013, 06:02 AM
The maximum sentence is 94 hours.

Hey who knows, maybe he'll be confined longer.

mastodon421
05-09-2013, 07:25 AM
We may not know how long he will be confined for, but rest assured these will be The Darkest Nights for Tim Lambesis.

imanidiot777
05-09-2013, 08:15 AM
Interesting divorce tid-bit

http://www.metalinjection.net/as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-wife-questioned-his-ability-to-care-for-their-3-children-says-he-was-obsessed-with-bodybuilding.html

TheDeadPanda
05-09-2013, 08:36 AM
Interesting divorce tid-bit

http://www.metalinjection.net/as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-wife-questioned-his-ability-to-care-for-their-3-children-says-he-was-obsessed-with-bodybuilding.html

Roid rage!!!

Ommie
05-09-2013, 09:31 AM
Interesting divorce tid-bit

http://www.metalinjection.net/as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-wife-questioned-his-ability-to-care-for-their-3-children-says-he-was-obsessed-with-bodybuilding.html
Spent too much time bodybuilding and wasted money on tattoos? I never would have guessed. :tongue:

Travis The Dragon
05-09-2013, 03:49 PM
From Wolverinekills Facebook:
UT San Diego is reporting that As I Lay Dying vocalist Tim Lambesis has pleaded not guilty to one count of solicitation for murder at his arraignment in Vista Superior Court.

His family, fans, band manager and band lawyer packed the courtroom, and many wrote letters to the judge in anticipation of the hearing.
The prosecutor argued that Lambesis be held on $20 million bail, citing the musician’s wealth and global connections, but his defense attorney argued that the amount was unreasonable. If he bails out, he was ordered to stay away from his wife and their three children.
I figured he would plead not guilty. Personally, I am open to the possibility that he was framed by his wife. Only time will tell though.

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 03:53 PM
If everything they said is correct that they have proof of him talking to someone about hiring someone to kill his wife then pleading not guilty is just prolonging the inevitable.

Namaste
05-09-2013, 04:19 PM
Interesting divorce tid-bit

http://www.metalinjection.net/as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-wife-questioned-his-ability-to-care-for-their-3-children-says-he-was-obsessed-with-bodybuilding.html

The guy who who wrote that is a TMZ wanna-be.

300%_Density
05-09-2013, 04:30 PM
Lol @ $20 million bail.

Lol @ "his wealth & global connections". Do they think AILD plays to sold out arenas or something? I know they set it high for a reason but that is laughable with the logic used.

Edit:

http://www.theprp.com/2013/05/09/news/as-i-lay-dyings-tim-lambesis-pleads-not-guilty-to-murder-for-hire-charges-bail-set-at-3-million/

Bail set @ $3 million. Was originally planned at $20 million.

OraclesofAgony
05-09-2013, 05:26 PM
Interesting divorce tid-bit

http://www.metalinjection.net/as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-wife-questioned-his-ability-to-care-for-their-3-children-says-he-was-obsessed-with-bodybuilding.html

:lol: :lol: :lol: at the people defending him in the comments.

treghet
05-09-2013, 05:34 PM
The guy who who wrote that is a TMZ wanna-be.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

treghet
05-09-2013, 05:39 PM
There's some more info in this article.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/05/09/heavy-metal-singer-charged-with-soliciting-wifes-murder

A heavy metal singer gave an envelope containing $1,000 in cash to an undercover agent with instructions on how to kill his estranged wife along with her photograph, address, security gate code and dates he would be with their children to give him an alibi, a prosecutor said Thursday.

The disclosure came moments after Tim Lambesis, 32, front man for the group As I Lay Dying, pleaded not guilty to solicitation of murder. A judge set bail at $3 million, required him to wear a GPS monitoring device, and imposed strict travel restrictions.

During a May 7 meeting with the agent, Lambesis was recorded saying he wanted his wife killed, said Claudia Grasso, a San Diego County prosecutor.

The undercover operation was staged after the singer told a man at his gym on April 23 and again on April 24 that he wanted his wife killed, complaining that she was making it difficult for him to see their children and impossible to complete their divorce, authorities said.

Defense attorney Anthony Salerno told reporters that Lambesis did not intend to harm anybody and was apparently set up by the man at the gym.

“Law enforcement was being fed something by someone that I strongly believe was a snitch, was out to save his own skin and was trumping things up, exaggerating things,” Salerno said.

The lawyer declined to address specific allegations.

Lambesis was arrested on Tuesday at a store in Oceanside, north of San Diego. If convicted, he could face as many as nine years in prison.

In court Thursday, Lambesis stared straight ahead from behind a glass partition while supporters packed the room.

Grasso said the singer emailed his wife while on tour in August that he didn’t love her anymore, wanted to end the relationship, and no longer believed in God. Meggan Lambesis later learned her husband was having an affair and had been involved with “a string of women,” the prosecutor said.

Meggan Lambesis, said in divorce papers that her husband had been falling asleep while caring for their three children near a pool and was spending endless hours at a gym and thousands of dollars on tattoos,

The musician’s wife also said in the court papers filed last fall that Lambesis toured six months a year and had taken two last-minute trips in a month to see a girlfriend in Florida.

She asked the court to order an expert to examine their music-related businesses and other assets. She also submitted a tax return showing the couple grossed $233,000 in 2010 but did not specify an amount she was seeking for spousal support.

The couple adopted the children — ages 4, 8 and 10 — from Ethiopia, and Tim Lambesis continued to see them for about 10 hours a week when he was not on tour, even though the couple was no longer living together, according to court documents.

Meggan Lambesis said the couple would try private mediation to work out custody and visitation issues.

BloodoftheKings
05-09-2013, 05:50 PM
People who were giving him the benefit of the doubt can stop now.

300%_Density
05-09-2013, 05:59 PM
He's fucked

Ommie
05-09-2013, 06:13 PM
Welp, that's all I needed to hear. What a scumbag.

Wonder what this means for AILD. Probably going to be difficult moving forward seeing how their vocalist did all this shit.

kalfitegrdan
05-09-2013, 06:25 PM
:lol: The guy accepting $1000 to kill his wife should have been the first hint.

Northern_Shaman
05-09-2013, 06:49 PM
I'm not going to pretend like I really know what happened or that any legal system has a definite method of determining the whole picture, but...

That evidence, if true, is pretty fucking damning. I wonder if this is a result of mental retardation caused by drug (steroids in particular, from the sounds of it) use/abuse.

The_jman
05-09-2013, 06:58 PM
not really sure what to say to this... just, wow.

anomynous
05-09-2013, 07:02 PM
He went full retard

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 07:12 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/486730_10151598700618896_1224967729_n.jpg

NickLed19
05-09-2013, 07:14 PM
This sucks so much.

hellawaits77ny
05-09-2013, 07:15 PM
I'm not going to pretend like I really know what happened or that any legal system has a definite method of determining the whole picture, but...

That evidence, if true, is pretty fucking damning. I wonder if this is a result of mental retardation caused by drug (steroids in particular, from the sounds of it) use/abuse.

Steroids had nothing to do with this. This guy is an idiot either way. Da juice isn't gonna cause a person to conspire to kill his wife.

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 07:15 PM
Wait he doesn't believe in God! FALSE PROPHET !

XDoomsayerX
05-09-2013, 07:45 PM
Steroids had nothing to do with this. This guy is an idiot either way. Da juice isn't gonna cause a person to conspire to kill his wife.

Oh no steroid use doesn't effect you mentally at all :tp:

Look up Chris Benoit. Other factors can be included, but drug use definitely played a role ( Chris Benoit's case).

Not saying roids were a factor in this but it can be a possibility. Doesnt make the act justifiable in any way but its always good to know the reasoning for crimes like this to further prevent them from happening.

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 08:03 PM
Oh no steroid use doesn't effect you mentally at all :tp:

Look up Chris Benoit. Other factors can be included, but drug use definitely played a role ( Chris Benoit's case).

Not saying roids were a factor in this but it can be a possibility. Doesnt make the act justifiable in any way but its always good to know the reasoning for crimes like this to further prevent them from happening.

The main factor was his brain damage from doing a flying headbutt for like 15 years.

mankvill
05-09-2013, 08:27 PM
The main factor was his brain damage from doing a flying headbutt for like 15 years.

http://i.minus.com/ib0RetqnuoImrM.gif

MPF
05-09-2013, 08:40 PM
I just realized this now....

Tim Lambesis is the Christian Varg. He releases a couple side projects, unlike Varg, he unsuccessfully tries to have someone close to him murdered.

Now he just needs a Casio keyboard for the next Burzum....I mean the next Austrian Death Machine album.

300%_Density
05-09-2013, 08:49 PM
I just realized this now....

Tim Lambesis is the Christian Varg. He releases a couple side projects, unlike Varg, he unsuccessfully tries to have someone close to him murdered.

Now he just needs a Casio keyboard for the next Burzum....I mean the next Austrian Death Machine album.

I wish Arnold did Beverly Hills Cop, I can picture Tim playing the theme song on a Casio and the way I am picturing it is majestic.

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 08:54 PM
http://i.minus.com/ib0RetqnuoImrM.gif

Holy shit :lol:

Best thing you've ever posted.

idrinkwine732
05-09-2013, 09:10 PM
I'm still in the stage of finding this really, really, really funny.

Travis The Dragon
05-09-2013, 09:11 PM
Another source saying he was recorded saying he wanted his wife killed: http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/09/video-from-tim-labesis-arraignment-more-details-of-prosecutions-alleged-case-revealed/

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-09-2013, 09:52 PM
Steroids would make him rage & kill her himself, not hire someone to do it. His plan was premeditated and well thought out except for asking around his gym for local hitmen lol

XDoomsayerX
05-09-2013, 10:11 PM
http://i.minus.com/ib0RetqnuoImrM.gif

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

In the end, Tim is dumb. I can see this being funny especially since the gym was his to go to place for a hitman.

elturtleboy
05-09-2013, 10:17 PM
http://i.minus.com/ib0RetqnuoImrM.gif

:party::party::party:

Addicted2metal
05-09-2013, 10:24 PM
I wonder if they will interrogate this so called girlfriend in Florida and see if she had some sort of influence on this situation.

BloodoftheKings
05-09-2013, 10:34 PM
The diving headbutt is one of those pro wrestling moves that never made sense to me. I can't see how the person the move is being done to could ever get hurt worse than the guy doing it.

dcmetal108
05-09-2013, 10:41 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

In the end, Tim is dumb. I can see this being funny especially since the gym was his to go to place for a hitman.

He could of at least tried Craigslist.

CreptorStatus
05-10-2013, 07:24 AM
http://i.minus.com/ib0RetqnuoImrM.gif

That practically made me spit my coffee all over my desk it was so damn funny lol.

Yeah, roid rage is a myth created by the sensationalist media. Increased aggression is a POSSIBLE side effect of taking testosterone but not psychosis. There have been many studies about this, taking steroids does not make you go insane.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

hellawaits77ny
05-10-2013, 08:52 AM
Oh no steroid use doesn't effect you mentally at all :tp:

Look up Chris Benoit. Other factors can be included, but drug use definitely played a role ( Chris Benoit's case).

Not saying roids were a factor in this but it can be a possibility. Doesnt make the act justifiable in any way but its always good to know the reasoning for crimes like this to further prevent them from happening.

Sure, steroids can effect you mentally. Absolutely they can. No one will ever know how much steroid use effected Chris Benoit. There's no possible way to test. The hundreds of chair shots probably didn't have anything to do with it either, right? Or the fact that he had the brain of an 85-year old Alzheimer's patient? No, of course not. Steroids were the only reason. LOL at some people. Believe everything the media says about everything.

And is there any proof that this man used steroids? The fact that he's a muscular guy and his wife "claims" he did, don't prove a thing. He hated his wife, and wanted her dead. Steroids will not make a "normal" person want to actually kill someone. More media hype that unfortunately, way too many people buy into.

hellawaits77ny
05-10-2013, 08:53 AM
The main factor was his brain damage from doing a flying headbutt for like 15 years.

:party: Exactly.

But yeah, according to the media, since he used anabolics, that was what "drove him over the edge."

hellawaits77ny
05-10-2013, 08:54 AM
That practically made me spit my coffee all over my desk it was so damn funny lol.

Yeah, roid rage is a myth created by the sensationalist media. Increased aggression is a POSSIBLE side effect of taking testosterone but not psychosis. There have been many studies about this, taking steroids does not make you go insane.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

Amen :party:

energymetal14
05-10-2013, 09:56 AM
That practically made me spit my coffee all over my desk it was so damn funny lol.

Yeah, roid rage is a myth created by the sensationalist media. Increased aggression is a POSSIBLE side effect of taking testosterone but not psychosis. There have been many studies about this, taking steroids does not make you go insane.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

Agreed. Steroids have lots of bad side effects, but when someone does something like this, steroids can not be blamed. I think if anything, the fact that someone is such a meathead and so obsessed with getting huge should be an indicator that they are not all there ;)

Funny about the part that Tim said he lost his faith in God. So once he stops believing in God its okay to have people murdered? It's like some people only feel being a good person is necessary if they are in fear of being "judged" by God. I know that's making assumptions, but I just thought that was interesting.

And watching that video of his arraignment, he is so guilty, you can see it all over his face. Especially with all the evidence, it is hard to have any doubt he is guilty as fuck.

Ommie
05-10-2013, 10:05 AM
Funny about the part that Tim said he lost his faith in God. So once he stops believing in God its okay to have people murdered? It's like some people only feel being a good person is necessary if they are in fear of being "judged" by God. I know that's making assumptions, but I just thought that was interesting.
That was rather odd. Funny, he somehow makes Christians AND people who don't believe in God look bad. Now that takes a special type of scumbag.

TheDeadPanda
05-10-2013, 10:07 AM
He also looks like he's about to break out of those chains and kick some ass haha he'll do fine in prison.

orlandodavis
05-10-2013, 10:36 AM
" A thousand bucks. Such a great deal" he thought. "2+2= Fuck if I know" he thought.

300%_Density
05-10-2013, 10:42 AM
Lesson to the kiddies. You're looking for a hitman, its not wise to shop on the clearance rack.

Because the more you know...

idrinkwine732
05-10-2013, 12:30 PM
In fairness, the prosecutor said at the arraignment that the $1000 was for expenses relating to the murder (ie materials). It didn't sound like it was the cost of the hitman. Either way, this still is really, really, really funny.

AnthG
05-10-2013, 02:09 PM
Funny about the part that Tim said he lost his faith in God. So once he stops believing in God its okay to have people murdered? It's like some people only feel being a good person is necessary if they are in fear of being "judged" by God. I know that's making assumptions, but I just thought that was interesting.



I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that him not believing in God anymore and him trying to get his wife murdered are mutually exclusive events.

Onioner
05-10-2013, 02:35 PM
Hilarious thing happens to band I really don't like. Singer of band I think is terrible turns out to be terrible person. Onioner is happy.

:2cents:

Travis The Dragon
05-10-2013, 06:40 PM
From: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=189786
According to the San Diego Sheriff's Department web site, as of Friday afternoon (May 10), AS I LAY DYING frontman Tim Lambesis had yet to post bail one day after pleading not guilty to a charge of solicitation of murder. The singer, who is accused of trying to hire someone to kill his estranged wife, remains behind bars at a Vista, California detention facility and his next court date is set for June 10.
My dad said his parents are super rich millionaires so I don't understand why they don't just bail him out. Also, he must have 3 million laying around since he comes from a rich family.

El Gordo
05-10-2013, 07:24 PM
From: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=189786

My dad said his parents are super rich millionaires so I don't understand why they don't just bail him out. Also, he must have 3 million laying around since he comes from a rich family.

Yeah... he totally has 3 million dollars lying around. No problem!

dcmetal108
05-10-2013, 07:26 PM
From: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=189786

My dad said his parents are super rich millionaires so I don't understand why they don't just bail him out. Also, he must have 3 million laying around since he comes from a rich family.

Maybe his parents want him to rot in jail.

Travis The Dragon
05-10-2013, 07:34 PM
Yeah... he totally has 3 million dollars lying around. No problem!
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/tim-lambesis-net-worth/ I'm pretty sure he has that much lying around.
Maybe his parents want him to rot in jail.
Ya, that's a very good possibility.

rjturtle9
05-10-2013, 07:41 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/tim-lambesis-net-worth/ I'm pretty sure he has that much lying around.

All that money and he still opted to go with the discount bin assassin?!

El Gordo
05-10-2013, 07:52 PM
What the fuck? That fucking idiot is worth 14 million dollars?!?!

Another example of more money than brains. Fuck. Yeah, hand a dude at your gym a thousand bucks to kill your wife. What a fucking dumbass.

larvtard
05-10-2013, 08:14 PM
Playing devil's advocate here (I think thats right), but would it be completely unprecedented for the $1000 to be one of several payments, maybe?

dcmetal108
05-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Playing devil's advocate here (I think thats right), but would it be completely unprecedented for the $1000 to be one of several payments, maybe?

$1000 wouldn't even be enough to get everything to do the deed.

I mean not that I'd know for sure but something like this would be costing at least $50,000.

adamclark52
05-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Maybe I don't understand the concept of "net worth". Maybe my net worth is a lot more than the zero I figured it is. But how can someone with a net worth of fourteen million dollars be asking fans to help fund (http://www.indievisionmusic.com/2013/02/22/austrian-death-machine-tim-lambesis-of-aild-starts-indiegogo-campaign/) his side-projects next album?

Travis The Dragon
05-10-2013, 09:15 PM
Because of the recent posts, I'm really starting to wonder more if this was all a frame up by his wife. Anything is possible.

Onioner
05-10-2013, 09:27 PM
Maybe I don't understand the concept of "net worth". Maybe my net worth is a lot more than the zero I figured it is. But how can someone with a net worth of fourteen million dollars be asking fans to help fund (http://www.indievisionmusic.com/2013/02/22/austrian-death-machine-tim-lambesis-of-aild-starts-indiegogo-campaign/) his side-projects next album?

Net worth includes investments and property. If this dude owns a big fricken house, that's probably a couple million at least right there. If he's part owner in any companies, that's also a lot of money right there. And of course, there's his plain cash, which I'm sure he has plenty of.

idrinkwine732
05-10-2013, 09:36 PM
Net worth includes investments and property. If this dude owns a big fricken house, that's probably a couple million at least right there. If he's part owner in any companies, that's also a lot of money right there. And of course, there's his plain cash, which I'm sure he has plenty of.

Not to mention the royalty value he has in all of AILD and Austrian Death Machine's music.

XDoomsayerX
05-10-2013, 09:59 PM
I just wonder what will happen to AILD. I still dig their music, not like some subliminal message in their songs :eyes:

adamclark52
05-10-2013, 10:11 PM
They'll probably try have a go with a new singer. If it succeeds or not is another story. The drummer is an original member too I think.

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-10-2013, 11:42 PM
They'll probably try have a go with a new singer. If it succeeds or not is another story. The drummer is an original member too I think.

They should try with a different vocalist. The rest of the band are innocent - not their fault their singer screwed up everything!

dcmetal108
05-11-2013, 12:10 AM
They'll probably try have a go with a new singer. If it succeeds or not is another story. The drummer is an original member too I think.

I don't see them trying with a new singer.

I'm guessing band splits and everyone joins new bands. Going around with the AILD name will now be tarnished since most news stories have AILD and Tim Lambesis arrested for trying to hire a detective to kill his wife in the same sentence.

dcmetal108
05-11-2013, 05:12 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/253246_535413166516955_195426373_n.jpg

mastodon421
05-11-2013, 06:48 AM
They'll probably try have a go with a new singer. If it succeeds or not is another story. The drummer is an original member too I think.

You are correct, Jordan Mancino is also a found member. I'm going to say they pick up a new vocalist, the band is still very popular and it would be stupid to hang it up because of Tim's dipshit actions.

AnthG
05-11-2013, 07:56 AM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/tim-lambesis-net-worth/ I'm pretty sure he has that much lying around.



Net worth =/= bank account balance. Plus i'm pretty sure the combined income for one year for both Tim and his wife was $200,000 according to a report. I'm sure that money goes quickly when bills add up and you have 3 kids. And i've always questioned the reliability of that celebrity net worth website and where they get their information from.

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 01:38 PM
And more information that makes me open to the possibility that Tim was set up.
From: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=189810
Speaking to Artisan News (see video below), Tim's attorney, Anthony Salerno, revealed that Tim's charges were a lot heavier initially, with the potential consequences being life in jail.

"He was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder, which carries a life sentence, as well as being booked for soliciting murder," Salerno said. "I won't necessarily get too deep [in the details of] the law surrounding conspiracy, but I came to believe very strongly that there is absolutely no way that he could be even charged with conspiracy, much less convicted of it. [So] one of the first things I did was to reach out directly to the [district attorney] that was assigned to the case and had some conversations with her. And she, in fact, did decide for Tim not to be charged with conspiracy, which was a big victory, 'cause that took a potential life sentence off the table before he was even charged. That's something that jumped out at me right away — that I needed to do that early intervention — so we did that."

Salerno also said that Lambesis was originally being held without bail before the attorney was able to intervene.

"At the point Tim was first arrested, the Sheriff's Department asked for and received permission to hold him with no bail," he said. "They got that permission from a judge and I knew that that was well in excess of what the bail schedule in San Diego County calls for. So my next order of business was to try to see what we could do to get that bail… well, first of all, to get a bail, and then to get it set as low as possible. That, of course, was what the bail hearing was about [on Thursday]. I was a little bit disappointed; I thought the bail should have been much lower. The scheduled amount for the charge that he ultimately has now is just $250,000. And, in fact, the scheduled amount for even solicitation to commit murder is a million [dollars]; and the judge set it at three million. So I was a little disappointed that it was that high. On the other hand, the D.A. was asking that the bail continued to be set at no bail whatsoever, and then she said — [which] I thought [was] kind of over the top — that as a backup, it ought to be set at $20 million. I think the fact that an earlier judge had said 'no bail' kind of must have influenced our judge, and that's [why] he set the three million. So right now the gameplan is to try to work on getting Tim out at that three million or possibly to have it lowered."

The lawyer added that someone may have given false information about Lambesis to authorities in order to "save his own skin."

"I would anticipate myself asking for quite a bit of additional discovery, particularly on this person I strongly suspect is a snitch and is an informant for the police and was really creating this whole scenario and sort of setting Tim up," he said. "I believe there's a good probability he may be a police informant. And that information is only available internally with the police department, or in this case the San Diego Sheriff's Department, and through the D.A.'s office, and that's something I'm gonna have to explore as well."

He added: "There's one other element to this, too, which is… I don't want to start to make accusations on this one unless I have some more information, but I will point out that Tim's wife's brother, I understand, is a San Diego Sheriff's deputy, and I think I would be remiss if I didn't fully explore that, 'cause that is a litte bit… it's at the bare minimum very coincidental, and it may be more than that."

DisposableJustice
05-11-2013, 01:41 PM
And more information that makes me open to the possibility that Tim was set up.
From: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=189810

K

So two logical explanations for Tim

A) His wife hired the WHOLE GODDAMN San Diego PD to be on her side

B) Tim has an evil twin brother who is seeking some sexy time with his bro's wife but needs him out of the way, thus also taking over his career and money

MAKES SENSE TO ME

anomynous
05-11-2013, 01:43 PM
http://www.fishchan.com/meta/src/131594301126.jpg

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 02:05 PM
She wouldn't have had to get the entire SDPD on her side to frame him. Just get enough people involved to do the set it all up and such. Again, I'm open to this being a possibility.

DisposableJustice
05-11-2013, 02:10 PM
She wouldn't have had to get the entire SDPD on her side to frame him. Just get enough people involved to do the set it all up and such. Again, I'm open to this being a possibility.

Too many moving parts, imo. Now if this happened in a middleoffuckinnowhere town then ya I could see a frame up. But not in one of America's biggest cities

I'm still looking for the excuse on how his voice that "ordered" this hit ain't his

mankvill
05-11-2013, 02:19 PM
>gets Tim Lambesis recorded saying he wants his wife dead
>"he was set up"

The Boston Marathon bomber guy was set up, too. Nevermind that he was throwing homemade bombs at police.

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 02:44 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer. And for as big of sting operation as it was, why wasn't a video camera hidden to record Tim handing the money over to the undercover cop?

Hey, I'm also open to the possibility that Tim actually did do it. Especially if he was on steroids or something because those can make a person go really crazy.

anomynous
05-11-2013, 02:46 PM
>gets Tim Lambesis recorded saying he wants his wife dead
>"he was set up"

The Boston Marathon bomber guy was set up, too. Nevermind that he was throwing homemade bombs at police.

.





All the terrorists involved in 9/11 were also set up, along with the Columbine shooters, and the dude who show up the Colorado theater.

mankvill
05-11-2013, 02:56 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9qpmyZMyI1r70jyd.png

gilpdawg
05-11-2013, 03:04 PM
Maybe I don't understand the concept of "net worth". Maybe my net worth is a lot more than the zero I figured it is. But how can someone with a net worth of fourteen million dollars be asking fans to help fund (http://www.indievisionmusic.com/2013/02/22/austrian-death-machine-tim-lambesis-of-aild-starts-indiegogo-campaign/) his side-projects next album?
That site of net worth is pure speculation. They really don't know anything.

larvtard
05-11-2013, 03:39 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer.

I loved that season of 24

treghet
05-11-2013, 03:46 PM
I loved that season of 24

:lol:

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 04:01 PM
I don't see what the problem is with me being open to this possibility. And for the record, I think there's a 70% chance he actually did it and a 30% chance it was a setup. Anything is possible though.

treghet
05-11-2013, 04:08 PM
I don't see what the problem is with me being open to this possibility. And for the record, I think there's a 70% chance he actually did it and a 30% chance it was a setup. Anything is possible though.

The problem is that it's an absolutely ridiculous possibility. What you're saying is that the police decided that they wanted Tim behind bars for no apparent reason, so they fabricated a recording of his voice to make it look like he was trying to hire a hitman. Are you Indestructible 2.0?

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Oh, sorry. I should have clarified. I think it's his wife who set him up.

Onioner
05-11-2013, 04:17 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer.

No. Just no. Sorry fonz, but YouTube poop isn't admissible evidence in court.

Dextrimental
05-11-2013, 04:20 PM
I'm waiting for all the details to come out before I condemn him, but the part of me that loves AILD doesn't want to believe he's guilty. The evidence is stacked up against him, and if it is proven after his lawyer investigates everything, then he deserves jail time. I hope AILD continues without him, incredibly competent group of guys who are also very down to Earth, would be a shame for them to lose their careers because one out of five made a criminal of himself.

mankvill
05-11-2013, 04:45 PM
YouTube poop

WCr-l9naPmE

XDoomsayerX
05-11-2013, 05:05 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer. And for as big of sting operation as it was, why wasn't a video camera hidden to record Tim handing the money over to the undercover cop?

Hey, I'm also open to the possibility that Tim actually did do it. Especially if he was on steroids or something because those can make a person go really crazy.

No set-up. No reason too, I mean Tim aint no millionaire or anything.

Steroids discussion already happened, no way was that a cause for his actions.

Travis The Dragon
05-11-2013, 05:26 PM
Since we don't have complete 100% absolute proof of any of this, anything is possible. And like I said, I didn't state that I meant it was his wife who could have set him up. That's what I meant.

dcmetal108
05-11-2013, 05:46 PM
Since we don't have complete 100% absolute proof of any of this, anything is possible. And like I said, I didn't state that I meant it was his wife who could have set him up. That's what I meant.

I think Jesus and Obama plotted against him for going against their will.

300%_Density
05-11-2013, 07:52 PM
I think Jesus and Obama plotted against him for going against their will.

Waiting for Mustaine to come up with some sort of conspiracy for Tim.

BloodoftheKings
05-11-2013, 08:18 PM
The audio of him saying that could have been faked too using voice changing technology on a computer.

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/+_74c8ebe6c211b6dc8486f2c7d11a899e.jpg

300%_Density
05-11-2013, 10:45 PM
http://www.theprp.com/2013/05/11/news/tim-lambesis-lawyer-has-suspicions-his-client-was-setup-by-a-police-informant/

This keeps getting better. Lawyer thinks it might have been an informant for the San Diego sheriffs department & also the brother of Tim's ex wife works for... Yep San Diego sheriffs department. This is getting more fun to read by the day.

dcmetal108
05-11-2013, 11:14 PM
http://www.theprp.com/2013/05/11/news/tim-lambesis-lawyer-has-suspicions-his-client-was-setup-by-a-police-informant/

This keeps getting better. Lawyer thinks it might have been an informant for the San Diego sheriffs department & also the brother of Tim's ex wife works for... Yep San Diego sheriffs department. This is getting more fun to read by the day.

This is a fucking soap opera.

Northern_Shaman
05-11-2013, 11:22 PM
Shiiiiiiet. That is definitely one very, very significant 'coincidence'. It wouldn't strike me as incredibly bizarre if it turns out that he was indeed set up. What a terrible fucking thing to go through, if that's the case...

Either way, this shit just got a little bit more interesting. Definitely curious as to what the results will be like.

hellawaits77ny
05-12-2013, 07:34 AM
But he attempted to hire someone to kill his wife. If he did that, he needs to be punished. Doesn't matter if he was "setup".

Dextrimental
05-12-2013, 09:12 AM
But he attempted to hire someone to kill his wife. If he did that, he needs to be punished. Doesn't matter if he was "setup".

I agree with this.

Fundamentally, the question that needs to be answered is 'Did Tim Lambesis attempt to have his wife killed?' if the answer is yes, he deserves some sort of punishment.

However the recent news does make it seem like Time MAY be completely set up. It's an outside chance, but the AILD fan in me wants it to be true.

Travis The Dragon
05-12-2013, 01:00 PM
Do any of you think it's possible that his wife was the one who tried to set him up? It has been said that he was cheating on her and such. She could have given someone the envelope containing all that stuff and pay him off to say it was Tim who gave it to him as well as pay off someone to say Tim approached him at the gym. And for the audio, she could have recorded someone who sounded like Tim and if needed, run it through a computer program to make it sound exactly like him.

TheDeadPanda
05-12-2013, 01:06 PM
Do any of you think it's possible that his wife was the one who tried to set him up? It has been said that he was cheating on her and such. She could have given someone the envelope containing all that stuff and pay him off to say it was Tim who gave it to him as well as pay off someone to say Tim approached him at the gym. And for the audio, she could have recorded someone who sounded like Tim and if needed, run it through a computer program to make it sound exactly like him.

I, like you, would love for this to be a setup and Tim proven innocent. But you're trying way too fucking hard.

anomynous
05-12-2013, 01:07 PM
Do any of you think it's possible that his wife was the one who tried to set him up? It has been said that he was cheating on her and such. She could have given someone the envelope containing all that stuff and pay him off to say it was Tim who gave it to him as well as pay off someone to say Tim approached him at the gym. And for the audio, she could have recorded someone who sounded like Tim and if needed, run it through a computer program to make it sound exactly like him.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b284/cool1337/PaGwFJk_zpse64d7a4e.gif (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/cool1337/media/PaGwFJk_zpse64d7a4e.gif.html)

mankvill
05-12-2013, 01:56 PM
Tim Lambesis is a replicant

hellawaits77ny
05-12-2013, 04:31 PM
I agree with this.

Fundamentally, the question that needs to be answered is 'Did Tim Lambesis attempt to have his wife killed?' if the answer is yes, he deserves some sort of punishment.

However the recent news does make it seem like Time MAY be completely set up. It's an outside chance, but the AILD fan in me wants it to be true.

Exactly. Police use setups all the time, for crimes of all types. Doesn't change anything.

Northern_Shaman
05-12-2013, 04:38 PM
I agree with this.

Fundamentally, the question that needs to be answered is 'Did Tim Lambesis attempt to have his wife killed?' if the answer is yes, he deserves some sort of punishment.



I'm assuming this is what every logical mind is thinking about this.

Also, I think there appears to be some ambiguity surrounding the term 'setup' on this thread (probably due to language differences, etc.). When I think of a genuine 'setup', I imagine a scenario in which an otherwise innocent person is made to look guilty by some crafty strategy. I might be incorrect about this due to my English but it seems like some of you treat 'setup' as a simple sting operation. I don't know which is the right way to look at it.

But this case is fucking interesting.

anomynous
05-12-2013, 04:54 PM
I'm assuming this is what every logical mind is thinking about this.

Also, I think there appears to be some ambiguity surrounding the term 'setup' on this thread (probably due to language differences, etc.). When I think of a genuine 'setup', I imagine a scenario in which an otherwise innocent person is made to look guilty by some crafty strategy. I might be incorrect about this due to my English but it seems like some of you treat 'setup' as a simple sting operation. I don't know which is the right way to look at it.

But this case is fucking interesting.

Considering the cops even said it was a sting, I don't know why anybody would point this out. Stings aren't illegal.

Northern_Shaman
05-12-2013, 05:51 PM
Considering the cops even said it was a sting, I don't know why anybody would point this out. Stings aren't illegal.

I have no idea what you're trying to establish with such an obvious reply.

Stings are normal.

But someone could easily be 'set up' (i.e. made to look guilty despite innocence) for a sting.

I have no idea which of these possibilities happened, but I'll certainly be interested to hear the results, just because it's a pretty unique thing to hear about. I think I saw AILD once on a tour with Children of Bodom, but I have no attachment to them or their music.

Travis The Dragon
05-16-2013, 07:37 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190055
Looks like they want to try and get his bail even lower. Also, I wonder if we'll be able to see the actual trial sessions and such. That would be so interesting!

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-16-2013, 08:31 PM
The problem for Lambesis is that so far all evidence points towards him being guilty compared to none for any type of wrong doing or illegal activity by the sheriff department.

Travis The Dragon
05-16-2013, 08:46 PM
The problem for Lambesis is that so far all evidence points towards him being guilty compared to none for any type of wrong doing or illegal activity by the sheriff department.

Again, I have said that I meant it's his wife who I think could have set him up.

MPF
05-16-2013, 08:53 PM
Regardless of being "set up" or not. He wanted his wife dead and was willing to pay for it to be done.

Travis The Dragon
05-16-2013, 09:14 PM
Regardless of being "set up" or not. He wanted his wife dead and was willing to pay for it to be done.

Tim's wife could have paid those men from his gym off to say he talked to them about paying to have her killed. Also, her brother works for the sheriff's department so she could have had an undercover cop paid off and given him the envelope with all that stuff in it. Also, she could have had some fake audio made up that sounds like Tim's voice saying that stuff. Again, I feel that these are just possibilities and I wish more people on here would be open to all this because none of us have 100% proof of what actually, truly happened.

anomynous
05-16-2013, 09:16 PM
Yes, a giant conspiracy against Tim is more likely than him doing it.

MPF
05-16-2013, 09:19 PM
Tim's wife could have paid those men from his gym off to say he talked to them about paying to have her killed. Also, her brother works for the sheriff's department so she could have had an undercover cop paid off and given him the envelope with all that stuff in it. Also, she could have had some fake audio made up that sounds like Tim's voice saying that stuff. Again, I feel that these are just possibilities and I wish more people on here would be open to all this because none of us have 100% proof of what actually, truly happened.

Just because Ventura was Governor of Minnesota for a while doesn't mean every single thing is a conspiracy. :lol:

dcmetal108
05-16-2013, 09:33 PM
Tim's wife could have paid those men from his gym off to say he talked to them about paying to have her killed. Also, her brother works for the sheriff's department so she could have had an undercover cop paid off and given him the envelope with all that stuff in it. Also, she could have had some fake audio made up that sounds like Tim's voice saying that stuff. Again, I feel that these are just possibilities and I wish more people on here would be open to all this because none of us have 100% proof of what actually, truly happened.

People can say he's innocent and that's fine but you are making your own impossible Lifetime movie situation out of it.

stylesclash516
05-16-2013, 09:57 PM
Tim's wife could have paid those men from his gym off to say he talked to them about paying to have her killed. Also, her brother works for the sheriff's department so she could have had an undercover cop paid off and given him the envelope with all that stuff in it. Also, she could have had some fake audio made up that sounds like Tim's voice saying that stuff. Again, I feel that these are just possibilities and I wish more people on here would be open to all this because none of us have 100% proof of what actually, truly happened.

http://www.chinahearsay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/conspiracy.jpg

kalfitegrdan
05-16-2013, 10:47 PM
Tim's wife could have paid those men from his gym off to say he talked to them about paying to have her killed. Also, her brother works for the sheriff's department so she could have had an undercover cop paid off and given him the envelope with all that stuff in it. Also, she could have had some fake audio made up that sounds like Tim's voice saying that stuff. Again, I feel that these are just possibilities and I wish more people on here would be open to all this because none of us have 100% proof of what actually, truly happened.

What a load of horseshit. It was obviously a doppelganger Tim that tried to have his wife killed. The real Tim is obviously being held captive on the mothership. Tim and his wife were getting too close to realizing the truth that aliens are among us, so they captured Tim and came up with this ludicrous plot to discredit Tim and his wife. His wife is just too scared for her husband's safety to reveal the truth that it was in fact....



http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiivYoudcsfJNhHPaZUnBumMMs8pa98 HrnPbNT3Z3yrnOurDzi9weqn8kL

Ommie
05-16-2013, 10:59 PM
What a load of horseshit. It was obviously a doppelganger Tim that tried to have his wife killed. The real Tim is obviously being held captive on the mothership. Tim and his wife were getting too close to realizing the truth that aliens are among us, so they captured Tim and came up with this ludicrous plot to discredit Tim and his wife. His wife is just too scared for her husband's safety to reveal the truth that it was in fact....



http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiivYoudcsfJNhHPaZUnBumMMs8pa98 HrnPbNT3Z3yrnOurDzi9weqn8kL
This makes a lot of sense. I mean, how do you think Tim got buff so quick? IT'S OBVIOUSLY A DOPPELGANGER

MPF
05-17-2013, 09:26 AM
There is no scientific evidence that Tim wasn't being used as a host body by Ghosts while attempting to hire a hitman to kill his wife.

Northern_Shaman
05-17-2013, 10:28 AM
There is no scientific evidence that Tim wasn't being used as a host body by Ghosts while attempting to hire a hitman to kill his wife.

Ghost was playing a show in Montreal that night you fuckin' disinfo shill piece of fuck. Get out of here with your lies. LMAO U GOT REKT :fist:

metallicbrian666
05-17-2013, 11:39 AM
The real crime here is AILD's music

Derelict
05-17-2013, 12:37 PM
Definitely aliens.

kalfitegrdan
05-17-2013, 12:58 PM
The real crime here is AILD's music

TORCHED!

Travis The Dragon
05-17-2013, 12:58 PM
Again, I think these things about Tim are possibilities. I don't understand why others on here aren't at least open any possibilities what so ever that he could have been framed by his wife.

John The Drummer
05-17-2013, 01:04 PM
IT WAS COLONEL MUSTARD IN THE LIBRARY WITH THE CANDLE STICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Travis The Dragon
05-17-2013, 01:05 PM
Instead of making all these jokes, could you please explain why you're not open to any of this?

BloodoftheKings
05-17-2013, 01:07 PM
Instead of making all these jokes, could you please explain why you're not open to any of this?

Because this isn't CSI, it's real life.

Travis The Dragon
05-17-2013, 01:08 PM
Because this isn't CSI, it's real life.

That doesn't mean that someone can't be framed for murder.

John The Drummer
05-17-2013, 01:15 PM
That doesn't mean that someone can't be framed for murder.

Just because we aren't in Norway doesn't mean this can't happen to US Metal bands (does that make sense? I'm raging at work and not thinking straight :) ). Could it have been a setup? Yes. What are the odds of it? Very small.

They have a RECORDING of him saying he wants his wife off'd, that seems like strong enough evidence to me. Just because he may have came off as a really cool dude when people have met him doesn't mean there are some demons in his head. Look at numerous other murders. Witnesses would say "Oh he seemed like a straight shooter" "Oh he was a good kid" "I didn't notice anything off with him", and then said person commits a crime.

It's life, shit happens, people do things that they regret later. Just because Tim was in a famous band doesn't mean he was a perfect person, he was a human just like everyone else and does things that others may not understand.

k... John The Drummer over and out :light:

metallicbrian666
05-17-2013, 01:23 PM
Hey guys have you ever seen the documentary on this case?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096438/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Travis The Dragon
05-17-2013, 02:49 PM
Well, I'm still going to be open to the POSSIBILITY that his wife framed him and had a fake recording made. Anyway, it's obviously pretty pointless to keep arguing with you on this because of how the vast majority on here feel.

moobys37
05-17-2013, 03:15 PM
Well, I'm still going to be open to the POSSIBILITY that his wife framed him and had a fake recording made. Anyway, it's obviously pretty pointless to keep arguing with you on this because of how the vast majority on here feel.

Read this. (http://torontostandard.com/culture/it-is-safer-in-the-dark-what-the-treatment-of-meggan-lambesis-tells-us-about-violence-victim-blaming-and-silence)

ravenheart
05-17-2013, 03:45 PM
Wow, this thread got real dumb real quick...

mastodon421
05-17-2013, 03:49 PM
IT WAS COLONEL MUSTARD IN THE LIBRARY WITH THE CANDLE STICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only intelligent post in the last 5 pages.

ravenheart
05-17-2013, 03:49 PM
Read this. (http://torontostandard.com/culture/it-is-safer-in-the-dark-what-the-treatment-of-meggan-lambesis-tells-us-about-violence-victim-blaming-and-silence)

Too long :finger:

hot_turkey_ed
05-17-2013, 03:54 PM
Well, I'm still going to be open to the POSSIBILITY that his wife framed him and had a fake recording made. Anyway, it's obviously pretty pointless to keep arguing with you on this because of how the vast majority on here feel.

Read this. (http://torontostandard.com/culture/it-is-safer-in-the-dark-what-the-treatment-of-meggan-lambesis-tells-us-about-violence-victim-blaming-and-silence)

Metal should give no one a free pass, especially in matters of life and death.

That's a very damning read. Personally, I don't focus on every possibility and stray more toward the reasonable. If there is a recording of this guy attempting a murder-for-hire deal with the police, it is not reasonable in my opinion to suggest his wife manufactured the tape in conspiracy with the police. His own lawyers seem to be arguing entrapment which leads me to believe they are not disputing the authenticity of the audio evidence, more so the circumstances before the arrest.

To argue conspiracy in face of the defense's own emphasis on entrapment.. well, that is indicative of wishful thinking at best, or good old fashioned shit stirring at worst.

Travis The Dragon
05-17-2013, 03:59 PM
Believe me, I'm not trying to stir up any shit. It's just a possibility that I'm choosing to be open to, but it probably is wishful thinking at the same time and I do feel that chances of Tim actually being guilty are quite a bit better than him being framed. I was just throwing it out there. OK, I promise I'll let this die now since I have dragged it out a bit too far.

hot_turkey_ed
05-17-2013, 04:50 PM
Believe me, I'm not trying to stir up any shit. It's just a possibility that I'm choosing to be open to, but it probably is wishful thinking at the same time and I do feel that chances of Tim actually being guilty are quite a bit better than him being framed. I was just throwing it out there. OK, I promise I'll let this die now since I have dragged it out a bit too far.

I don't read everything that everyone posts, and I'm not trying to squash sincere discussion. And I can appreciate the denial aspect of wanting an innocent Tim.

In the Bay Area, we had a great AM talk station, KGO 810 AM. Very independent and totally unlike the firebreathing hate bombing syndication that is talk radio today. Most of the hosts had their shows for years and years, some for decades. Love or hate them, they were part of our community; it felt like you got to know them. I'm a fairly conservative person but I used to listen one guy during my commute home that was extremely liberal (and entertaining at times). For the locals here, I'm talking about Bernie Ward. Mon - Fri 10 PM to 1AM and Sunday mornings for Godtalk (ignored). He was incredibly active in both a major thanksgiving food drive and the annual telethon for Leukemia. Unfortunately, the guy was busted for child pornography around 2007. I spent years listening to Bernie, and you don't want to believe that a guy like that could do the things he did .. but at the end of the day, it's turns out he was a scumbag.

Real life... :bouville:

Bengals279
05-17-2013, 05:39 PM
From Wolverinekills "In a bail reduction hearing today, As I Lay Dying and Austrian Death Machine front man Tim Lambesis bail was reduced by one million dollars leaving him with a two million dollar bail. His lawyers are trying to state that side affects from steroid abuse is what caused him to try and have him hire someone to murder his wife. We will bring you more news on this situation as we receive it."
Of course he has to blame it on the steroids. There goes "the wife set me up"

DisposableJustice
05-17-2013, 05:46 PM
From Wolverinekills "In a bail reduction hearing today, As I Lay Dying and Austrian Death Machine front man Tim Lambesis bail was reduced by one million dollars leaving him with a two million dollar bail. His lawyers are trying to state that side affects from steroid abuse is what caused him to try and have him hire someone to murder his wife. We will bring you more news on this situation as we receive it."
Of course he has to blame it on the steroids. There goes "the wife set me up"

This outta be fun

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-17-2013, 06:11 PM
There goes "the wife set me up"

The steroids set him up... those dirty, muscle building bastards!!!

300%_Density
05-17-2013, 07:03 PM
LoL @ goddamn lawyers:

Lambesis' attorney said the "gym culture" led to "changes in [the singer's] physiological and mental status," with Tim's bodybuilding obsession causing him to go from 170 to 220 pounds after first taking supplements, then steroids. "[He] was not the same person. He was irritable and lost God."

So steroids are the cause of this now. Guess I will get roided up and therefore I waive all responsibility. Somewhere Chris Bemoit approves of this.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190092

mankvill
05-17-2013, 07:19 PM
So by the same token, everyone who gets drunk and obliterates a family of four because they slammed into them while driving drunk, they should absolve some of that responsibility too, right/

metallicbrian666
05-17-2013, 07:40 PM
So by the same token, everyone who gets drunk and obliterates a family of four because they slammed into them while driving drunk, they should absolve some of that responsibility too, right/
As well as those who get obliterated by lightpoles while riding drunk. Easy mistake

mankvill
05-17-2013, 07:45 PM
As well as those who get obliterated by lightpoles while riding drunk. Easy mistake

HO

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FUC

KING

SHIT

POST OF THE FUCKING YEAR RIGHT HERE

seriously, I can't stop fucking laughing

moobys37
05-17-2013, 07:48 PM
As well as those who get obliterated by lightpoles while riding drunk. Easy mistake

I love you. Total homo.

dcmetal108
05-17-2013, 09:32 PM
Maybe Tim can get other people from the world who after going to a gym wanted to hire someone to kill a loved one, because as he said that is part of the gym culture apparently.

Northern_Shaman
05-17-2013, 11:10 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

"Could it have been caused by steroids?" was my completely uneducated gut speculation. I don't see how that would make it any less awful or warrant lighter treatment in any way, but I did wonder about it.

http://i.imgur.com/TnopfnG.gif

bitch u guiltyyyyyyy

OraclesofAgony
05-17-2013, 11:38 PM
The Chewbacca Defense > The Steroid Defense

Travis The Dragon
05-18-2013, 01:35 PM
I don't read everything that everyone posts, and I'm not trying to squash sincere discussion. And I can appreciate the denial aspect of wanting an innocent Tim.

In the Bay Area, we had a great AM talk station, KGO 810 AM. Very independent and totally unlike the firebreathing hate bombing syndication that is talk radio today. Most of the hosts had their shows for years and years, some for decades. Love or hate them, they were part of our community; it felt like you got to know them. I'm a fairly conservative person but I used to listen one guy during my commute home that was extremely liberal (and entertaining at times). For the locals here, I'm talking about Bernie Ward. Mon - Fri 10 PM to 1AM and Sunday mornings for Godtalk (ignored). He was incredibly active in both a major thanksgiving food drive and the annual telethon for Leukemia. Unfortunately, the guy was busted for child pornography around 2007. I spent years listening to Bernie, and you don't want to believe that a guy like that could do the things he did .. but at the end of the day, it's turns out he was a scumbag.

Real life... :bouville:

That's really sad and horrible about Bernie Ward and you surely never would have expected it! And I'm definitely much more open to Tim actually being guilty. Also, I agree about steroids. That can't be used as a defense! He's still just as guilty for what he did.

TonyD
05-18-2013, 04:07 PM
So HIS lawyer is trying to use steroids as an insanity defense? Everybody knows insanity is to get lean and toned, not bulky and juiced up.

rjturtle9
05-18-2013, 05:07 PM
So HIS lawyer is trying to use steroids as an insanity defense? Everybody knows insanity is to get lean and toned, not bulky and juiced up.

:lol:

Best post ever!

dcmetal108
05-18-2013, 05:34 PM
So HIS lawyer is trying to use steroids as an insanity defense? Everybody knows insanity is to get lean and toned, not bulky and juiced up.

I had to read it twice to make sure I was making the right connection for the joke :lol:

mastodon421
05-18-2013, 07:15 PM
So HIS lawyer is trying to use steroids as an insanity defense? Everybody knows insanity is to get lean and toned, not bulky and juiced up.

Ladies and gentleman, we have a winner :lol:

moobys37
05-19-2013, 08:21 AM
So HIS lawyer is trying to use steroids as an insanity defense? Everybody knows insanity is to get lean and toned, not bulky and juiced up.

http://content8.flixster.com/photo/12/88/69/12886986_ori.jpg

idrinkwine732
05-19-2013, 10:25 PM
KGO 810 AM...Bernie Ward...

:bliss:

...I'm sad now...

dcmetal108
05-21-2013, 12:07 PM
http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/21/will-fans-who-helped-crowd-fund-austrian-death-machines-triple-brutal-get-a-refund-now-that-tim-lambesis-is-in-jail/

Well I guess people are connecting all the dots for the money around the same time he would have gotten back the money from his indiegogo thing.

mankvill
05-21-2013, 01:01 PM
http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/21/will-fans-who-helped-crowd-fund-austrian-death-machines-triple-brutal-get-a-refund-now-that-tim-lambesis-is-in-jail/

Well I guess people are connecting all the dots for the money around the same time he would have gotten back the money from his indiegogo thing.

Hopefully everyone that donated gets arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.

300%_Density
05-21-2013, 01:08 PM
Hopefully everyone that donated gets arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.

IRS:
"We apologize, your donated $ that was being used to murder an ex, unfortunately will not be tax deductible. We apologize for any inconvenience."

Travis The Dragon
05-30-2013, 05:57 PM
He posted bail and has been released. http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190627

CaptRedBeardVII
05-30-2013, 07:48 PM
http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/21/will-fans-who-helped-crowd-fund-austrian-death-machines-triple-brutal-get-a-refund-now-that-tim-lambesis-is-in-jail/

Well I guess people are connecting all the dots for the money around the same time he would have gotten back the money from his indiegogo thing.

Anyone who believes this, is just dumb. Look up his net worth. It's $14,000,000! I highly doubt he needed fans to round up cash to kill his ex wife. Come on now..

Travis The Dragon
05-30-2013, 07:57 PM
Anyone who believes this, is just dumb. Look up his net worth. It's $14,000,000! I highly doubt he needed fans to round up cash to kill his ex wife. Come on now..

That's already been discussed and as you can see, he has in fact posted bail.

dcmetal108
05-30-2013, 09:13 PM
I don't know how people assume that net worth means the money he has to spend lol.

All I'm hearing is that most people that contributed to the ADM project are wanting their money back and that everyone thinks thats how he made bail.

AnthG
05-31-2013, 06:31 AM
I don't know how people assume that net worth means the money he has to spend lol.

This. People are fucking stupid.

If I own a TV that cost $500, that $500 is part of my net worth. Net worth =/= money in the bank.

detuned
05-31-2013, 08:30 AM
FYI, the 14 million is simply based on celebritynetworth.com, which is surely 110% accurate

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/tim-lambesis-net-worth/

Disclaimer
All information presented on CelebrityNetWorth.com is gathered from sources which are thought to be reliable, but the viewer should not assume that such information is up to date or completely accurate or final. CelebrityNetWorth does not assume responsibility for any errors in the information it presents on this site. All information on this site is based solely on public information and is subject to change without notice.

300%_Density
05-31-2013, 10:30 AM
Dear god Oderus is cracking me the fuck up as he talks about Tim on Twitter.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/05/31/oderus-urungus-goes-on-an-angry-twitter-rant-against-tim-lambesis/

Nice work metalsucks for not getting the humor. Guessing they aren't actually familiar w/ GWAR. Still funny shit though.

BloodoftheKings
05-31-2013, 11:57 AM
C'mon Tim, whats the matter? At least in #Richmond when we get charged with killing someone, we actually do it. #randyblythe

:LOLFC:

300%_Density
05-31-2013, 12:07 PM
:LOLFC:

Idk why but I think I laughed hardest at the Pogo-Pogo joke.:rocker:

detuned
05-31-2013, 12:25 PM
Nice work metalsucks for not getting the humor. Guessing they aren't actually familiar w/ GWAR. Still funny shit though.

oderus is a columinist for the site

300%_Density
05-31-2013, 12:41 PM
oderus is a columinist for the site

Wow, I actually did not know that.

CaptRedBeardVII
06-02-2013, 04:33 PM
This. People are fucking stupid.

If I own a TV that cost $500, that $500 is part of my net worth. Net worth =/= money in the bank.

Even so, if your net worth is 14 million, you ain't hurting for money by any stretch of imagination. It's far more than most in this era of metal.

dcmetal108
06-02-2013, 04:48 PM
Everyone also forgets that to actually be released he only had to pay like 10% of the bail.

DisposableJustice
06-03-2013, 08:12 PM
http://www.metalinjection.net/shouting-match-allegedly-erupts-between-as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-father-estranged-wife.html

OraclesofAgony
06-03-2013, 08:48 PM
http://www.metalinjection.net/shouting-match-allegedly-erupts-between-as-i-lay-dying-frontmans-father-estranged-wife.html

Nice misogyny in the comments section there. Idiots.