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Steev
03-27-2013, 01:17 PM
There was a time when Ministry frontman Al Jourgensen said the band’s 2012 album Relapse was absolutely, positively going to be the final Ministry album ever. Exclamation point! End of sentence. Done! Then again, there was also a time when the industrial metal pioneer said 2007’s The Last Sucker would be Ministry’s coup de grace. But cut the dude some slack.

Back in 2007, Jourgensen was leaking blood from every orifice and, little did he know it, but he would eventually implode and almost die from a ruptured ulcer. Then he got better (mostly, except for his 13 bleeding ulcers). To fulfill a decade-long threat to his longtime fans that he would someday record a country album, Jourgensen formed Buck Satan & The 666 Shooters with his best friend and longtime Ministry guitarist Mike Scaccia, Static-X bassist Tony Campos, Cheap Trick guitarist Rick Nielsen, and The Dusters bassist David Barnett. Together, they wrote the riotous, rollicking country-core album Ladies Welcome, Bikers Drink Free.

While tracking and between—Hell, probably in the middle of—drinking bottles of cheap red wine, Jourgensen and Scaccia started jamming with some metal riffs just for shits and grins. Problem was, they came out so fucking well that Scaccia was able to convince his buddy to use them on a new Ministry record. A couple more drinkers and rockers—Prong guitarist Tommy Victor and Rigor Mortis’ bassist Casey Orr—joined the team, and Relapse was born.

The band planned to do a short U.S. tour and a lengthy overseas run in 2012 and then return to the U.S. in 2013 for a longer, more high profile tour of American sheds and arenas and possibly an inclusion on a major package tour. Then, Jourgensen almost died again, and, like every time that happens, it kinda put a crimp on things. The band was on tour in France at the time, and Ministry’s frontman was suffering from severe dysentery, which he came down with in Los Angeles at the beginning of the run. By the time he got to Paris, he was so dehydrated, he was barely aware of where he was. Onstage, excessively hot temperatures at the Paris venue provoked heat exhaustion. Add that to the dysentery and you’ve got a lethal combination. Eight songs into the set, Jourgensen stumbled over to keyboardist John Bechdel and told him he didn’t know if he could make it through the show. Jourgensen's wife/manager Angie Jourgensen rushed onto the stage to catch Jourgensen as he collapsed. He was rushed to a hospital in Switzerland, which diagnosed his illness, controlled his raging fever, pumped him full of fluids and antibiotics, and basically saved his life.

But Jourgensen took the ordeal as a sign. No more touring. After the last show in St. Petersburg, Russia, he returned home to El Paso and started brainstorming for a new album. When he doesn’t create like madman, Jourgensen tends to drive himself and those around him crazy, so he decided to break his word (again) and do another Ministry record with Scaccia, guitarist Sin Quirin, bassist Tony Campos and, for the first time in a decade, a live drummer—in this case, Aaron Rossi, who had toured Relapse with the band.

During 19 days in December, Ministry wrote and recorded riffs for 18 songs. Then they went their separate ways for Christmas. “This was one of the most creative Ministry tracking sessions ever. The band was on fire!” Jourgensen says. “We were having fun, we were coming up with great ideas and experimenting with everything we’ve ever wanted to do, from Stones-y blues to dub and, of course, heavy guitar-based rock. It was too easy. No fighting, no problems. Nothing goes that well without the floor eventually falling out.”

Tragically, Ministry's final creative hour with Scaccia came right before they broke for the holidays. Three days after leaving the Ministry sessions in El Paso, in the early hours of December 23, Scaccia suffered heart failure onstage while performing with his other band, Rigor Mortis, and was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital. Scaccia’s death both devastated and motivated Jourgensen.

“Mikey was my best friend in the world and there’s no Ministry without him,” he says. “But I know the music we recorded together during the last weeks of his life had to be released to honor him. So after his funeral, I locked myself in my studio and turned the songs we had recorded into the best and last Ministry record anyone will ever here. I can’t do it without Mikey and I don’t want to. So yes, this will be Ministry’s last album.”

Jourgensen tirelessly worked on From Beer to Eternity through March 2013 at 13th Planet Records in his El Paso compound with co-producer Sammy D’Ambruoso, and engineer/keyboard programmer Aaron Havill. In addition to producing and mixing, Jourgensen wrote all the lyrics and took his traditional role behind the mic and the console. “It was the most emotionally difficult project I’ve ever done, but it was the most rewarding,” Jourgensen says. “Mikey was amazed with the songs when he was working on them, and I know he’s looking down at us now and he’s totally stoked with what we came up with.”

From Beer to Eternity is scheduled for release in September, but there will be no tour. Instead, Jourgensen will promote the album in the press along with his authorized biography, Ministry: The Lost Gospels According to Al Jourgensen, which comes out on DaCapo Books in August. “Maybe we’ll do one big show with Tommy and Sin and the guys who made this band possible for the past few years. That would be a nice tribute to Mikey. But I can’t do a whole tour without him. Ministry was his life almost as much as mine, and I’m afraid it has to die with him. But damn if we didn’t go out with a bang!”

Chris_M_S
03-27-2013, 01:43 PM
I worked on that book, it should be pretty bonkers

mankvill
03-27-2013, 01:48 PM
"last"

ravenheart
03-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Not that I'm much of a fan, but wasn't their last good album fucking ages ago anyway?

300%_Density
03-27-2013, 02:27 PM
Not that I'm much of a fan, but wasn't their last good album fucking ages ago anyway?

Probably based on preference. The Bush trilogy were really good unless your preference was more industrial than metal. If that's the case then you'd be spot on and Psalm 69 was last great album.

InFlamesOfBirchmen
03-27-2013, 09:45 PM
So we're going through this whole schtick again, eh?

Derelict
03-28-2013, 08:56 AM
Fuck Al Jourgensen.

300%_Density
03-28-2013, 09:00 AM
Fuck Al Jourgensen.

Speaking to Tommy Victor for like an hour after a Prong show, he basically feels the same way. Al & his wife are pretty evil. I enjoy their music still, but as a person he's a pretty low human being.

InFlamesOfBirchmen
03-28-2013, 10:30 AM
Speaking to Tommy Victor for like an hour after a Prong show, he basically feels the same way. Al & his wife are pretty evil. I enjoy their music still, but as a person he's a pretty low human being.

As someone who knows virtually nothing about Ministry (except Al's drug history), I'm curious; the general belief is that he's just a dick, so why do people keep buying his stuff? I understand liking the music, but it seems like a fair amount of people bought tickets to the last tour and stuff.

Derelict
03-28-2013, 10:39 AM
He's pretty much alienated everyone he's every played with (look at Ministry line ups from album to album). Hell, him and Paul Barker are suing each other.

But the main reason i want him to go fuck himself is that the C U L8Tour was possible the single most offensive thing I've seen a metal band do to their fans - and oh look, they are touring/putting out music again - what a shock!

300%_Density
03-28-2013, 11:05 AM
Before talking to Tommy, just from heresay, he sounded like he screwed over alot of people that worked w/ him from before. Then after talking to Tommy it kind of validated what I already thought. To me it sounds like the Jourgansens have kind of an Osbourne thing going a little, only Al's wife seems a bit more difficult than Sharon. The cliff notes version is Al hasn't paid Tommy shit for a couple albums:

This was the review where I talked to Tommy http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=20851

The CUL8Tour was kind of a middle finger but I guess it didn't anger me as much as it did some.

adamclark52
03-28-2013, 11:16 AM
I can't stand the man, based off my experience from the C U L8tour. But unfortunately I really like his music.

I won't bother with this though, unless it's a monster of an album.

Steev
03-28-2013, 11:45 AM
What happened at the Cu l8 tour that was so bad???

I've seen the DVD they put out and seemed alright

300%_Density
03-28-2013, 11:54 AM
http://www.antimusic.com/news/07/nov/17Ministry_C_U_LaTouR.shtml

Releasing this press release and then not follow up and have the show be nowhere near the press release.

adamclark52
03-28-2013, 12:39 PM
What happened at the Cu l8 tour that was so bad???

I've seen the DVD they put out and seemed alright

I posted this review (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=22720) a few weeks ago. But digging through the archives on this forum there were a couple other people who weren't too impressed either.

Derelict
03-28-2013, 12:45 PM
What happened at the Cu l8 tour that was so bad???

I've seen the DVD they put out and seemed alright

They put out that ridiculous press release saying how there would be songs from every album, awesome guests, etc etc.

The only guest that showed up to a show was Wayne Static reading the lyrics to "So What" off of a sheet while performing.

Oh, and Al was too lazy to do the vocals on the 4 "classic" songs they did, so they brought Burton Bell along to do the lyrics on those songs.

Dogman
03-28-2013, 12:47 PM
I've seen Ministry live many times over the last 25 years and didn't see the C U Latour, or whatever it was called. But it seems to me that people were angry at that tour because Al didn't perform the songs THEY wanted to hear, so hence it sucked. For me, seeing Ministry has always been a great experience and having never met Al Jourgensen or his wife I can't comment on their assholeness or lack thereof. But I can speak on Tommy Victor's assholeness having met him many times in the last 25 years or so. Tommy has a HUUUUUGE chip on his shoulder because his band "never made it." In the early 90's we ran into each other on numerous occasions and he was always a dick. My cousin was a huge fan and always made homemade shirts and awesome gifts for those guys, and while Ted and Troy, and later Raven, were always cool and humble, Tommy was always a complete dick. And once yelled at my friend because he was wearing a Helmet shirt and screamed "they stole our whole sound and made it nice and palatable for the masses." So, Al may or may not be a dick but Tommy most certainly is. And I'd take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Steev
03-28-2013, 12:58 PM
I only saw Ministry once, all I remember is the show ran super late and after awhile dragged on(like they got off the stage around 1am, but took an eternity between songs)


As for Tommy, I met him 2 years ago at Rock On The Range, seemed like a nice guy to me

Derelict
03-28-2013, 03:09 PM
I've seen Ministry live many times over the last 25 years and didn't see the C U Latour, or whatever it was called. But it seems to me that people were angry at that tour because Al didn't perform the songs THEY wanted to hear, so hence it sucked. For me, seeing Ministry has always been a great experience and having never met Al Jourgensen or his wife I can't comment on their assholeness or lack thereof. But I can speak on Tommy Victor's assholeness having met him many times in the last 25 years or so. Tommy has a HUUUUUGE chip on his shoulder because his band "never made it." In the early 90's we ran into each other on numerous occasions and he was always a dick. My cousin was a huge fan and always made homemade shirts and awesome gifts for those guys, and while Ted and Troy, and later Raven, were always cool and humble, Tommy was always a complete dick. And once yelled at my friend because he was wearing a Helmet shirt and screamed "they stole our whole sound and made it nice and palatable for the masses." So, Al may or may not be a dick but Tommy most certainly is. And I'd take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Actually no, they didn't play any of the shit that they promised they were playing in the press release about the tour.

jhdeity
03-28-2013, 09:03 PM
Actually no, they didn't play any of the shit that they promised they were playing in the press release about the tour.

Yeah that's true. I love Ministry and always will but they have done some shady shit to their fans. More than any other band I follow probably.

The last 3 times I saw them live I got 70-90% Bush stuff. I like that shit but if you say a "greatest hits" farewell tour, it should be just that. Not the same set you played the last 2 times on tour.