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the deathmetaler
02-16-2013, 10:33 PM
Testament:
-intro-
1. Rise Up
2. More Than Meets the Eye
3. Burnt Offerings
4. Into the Pit
5. Practice What You Preach
6. Riding the Snake
7. Eyes of Wrath
8. Trial By Fire
9. The Haunting
10. The New Order
11. Over the Wall
12. Disciples of the Watch
--encore--
13. D.N.R. (Do Not Resuscitate)
14. 3 Days of Darkness
15. The Formation of Damnation

Overkill:
-intro-
1. Come and Get It
2. Rotten to the Core
3. Wrecking Crew
4. Bring Me the Night
5. Electric Rattlesnake
6. Ironbound
7. Elimination
8. Fuck You

Flotsam and Jetsam:
-intro-
1. Ugly Noise
2. Iron Tears
3. Escape from Within
4. Hammerhead
5. Gitty Up
6. No Place For Disgrace

*Lich King also played but I do not remember their full setlist.

anomynous
02-16-2013, 10:36 PM
I saw Skolnick tweet they cut out the new stuff to "keep Chuck's voice intact" or something because of so many shows without a break, but if I got that set I'd be pissed.

Edit: "For tonight's show, to save Chuck's voice (worn from so many shows in a row), we did mostly classic songs. But it went well-great crowd!"

Nater
02-16-2013, 11:16 PM
Yeah he apologized a couple times and even said after the show that he was sorry for the shitty death metal concert.


I thought they were pretty good regardless though but Overkill blew me away with even how Bobby was sick he still sounded good.


Best part about the night? It was a free ticket and my birthday!

sarsip
02-17-2013, 12:32 AM
Testament will tour the shit out of this album so they will make up for tonight.

I remember some of Lich King's set;

Ed-209
Predator
?
Combat Mosh
Crossover Bands write songs that are too short (Something like that)
We Came To Conquer

I am in the process of really getting into them. My apologies for the omission.

Candy Striper were pretty cool!!

PVH5150
02-17-2013, 02:43 AM
2 of my friends' bands (Black Mass & Vivisepulture) were playing the afternoon upstairs show. Anybody see them? If so, thoughts?

Sanitarium78
02-17-2013, 05:41 AM
So the three new songs they cut really put that much strain on his voice? I would think TFOD and the songs from The Gathering would be harsher on Chuck's voice. You would think with the higher range vocals in some of the older material would be worse for his voice as well.

I hope Chuck's OK enough tonight to sing the new stuff. I really wanna hear those three songs and the odds are good we won't get them again on this tour after they play here tonight.

IrritatedTrout
02-17-2013, 06:14 AM
Wow, I'd be so pissed if I got that set. The new stuff was the highlight of the other night.

El Gordo
02-17-2013, 06:25 AM
I'm surprised everyone is so upset that the new stuff got cut. The new album is totally mediocre, so I'd definitely take a bunch of classics over new stuff... depending on how Chuck actually sang the old stuff. If his voice is shot, that would really suck.

Kevin-J
02-17-2013, 07:20 AM
We got screwed all the way around in Worcester. Both Overkill and Flotsam each cut a song from their regular set and Testament dropped 3 new songs for 2 songs I've been hearing live since seeing them on the Practice tour.

I'm a huge Testament fan, but I don't buy the reason for his voice being burnt out. If it was, they would have postponed the DVD shoot the night before. What probably happened was that he strained himself giving it all for the shoot and those of us seeing them the night after the shoot got the short end of the stick.

This is why you schedule DVD shoots at the end of a tour or as a stand-alone show. To schedule a shoot in the middle of a tour, especially in the winter in the northeast, is a bad idea on paper, and the Worcester show payed the price.

Onioner
02-17-2013, 07:46 AM
We got screwed all the way around in Worcester. Both Overkill and Flotsam each cut a song from their regular set and Testament dropped 3 new songs for 2 songs I've been hearing live since seeing them on the Practice tour.

I'm a huge Testament fan, but I don't buy the reason for his voice being burnt out. If it was, they would have postponed the DVD shoot the night before. What probably happened was that he strained himself giving it all for the shoot and those of us seeing them the night after the shoot got the short end of the stick.

This is why you schedule DVD shoots at the end of a tour or as a stand-alone show. To schedule a shoot in the middle of a tour, especially in the winter in the northeast, is a bad idea on paper, and the Worcester show payed the price.

This a million times over. I'm normally one to totally support Testament in everything they do, but they really didn't handle the DVD thing very well. Nowadays, the best live albums are raw snapshots of a tour. Making the DVD show a different one in terms of both the performance and the setlist makes it only a really cool keepsake for those who attended that particular show, not everyone who attended the whole tour. That's why Maiden and Rush can crank out good live records like no tomorrow, they're tour souvenirs, not show souvenirs.

It sucks that Worcester had to deal with the consequences of the DVD shoot, although I can see why they dropped the new songs. At the LA show Chuck struggled/held back the most on the new songs, you can definitely tell he saved his absolute best performance for the studio takes, which is definitely smart in the long run. The older stuff doesn't require as much from him in terms of vocal versatility, and he can pretty much speak/sing Over the Wall if he wants (and basically did until a couple years ago). It might sound weird, but Chuck singing at maybe 80-90% while on tour now will do him a whole lot of good when he hits his later 50s and 60s. It's the reason why Bruce Dickinson and Klaus Meine still totally own live, they held back onstage in the 80s and didn't destroy their voice night after night. And that's why Rob Halford is a shell of his old self, even if dude is sounding way better than he has in like 10 years. Rob screamed his throat out onstage all throughout the seventies and eighties which was awesome at the time, but the long term damage he caused is more or less irreparable now.

Osiris9019
02-17-2013, 08:43 AM
Overkill was fucking awesome. It was my first time seeing them so I enjoyed the living hell out of their performance. As the OP said, they played everything but Infectious which I didn't mind, one of my lesser favorites off of Horrorscope. Testament on the other hand, very disappointing with Chuck's voice and all. I really didn't mind they cut the new songs to be honest. I only really wanted to hear True American Hate anyhow. But I really thought their sound was awful last night. I was up in front of the bar on that bar railing and it just sounded like crap. It was at the point where everything was just so loud that it sounded all mashed together and distorted. That and Chuck just seemed to be so low in the mix I could barely hear him. I thought Overkill's sound was spot on.

anomynous
02-17-2013, 11:25 AM
I'm surprised everyone is so upset that the new stuff got cut. The new album is totally mediocre, so I'd definitely take a bunch of classics over new stuff... depending on how Chuck actually sang the old stuff. If his voice is shot, that would really suck.

Get this: Not everybody thinks that. The album's been on plenty of year-end lists. At least they did Rise Up instead of Native Blood.



One song off the new record reminds me of back when Megadeth used to post their sets on the public forums. I asked why some random South American date was being advertised as the Endgame tour and they were only playing Headcrusher off it. This was right after the RiP tour, and apparently they were doing that in SA, which I didn't know. Anyway Mustaine got pissed, accused me of being an idiot that doesn't pay attention to the band, and as a result the setlists stopped being posted in the public section of the forum.


Because apparently asking why they're only playing one song off an album they're touring for is totally unreasonable and questioning Dave's sanity.

sarsip
02-17-2013, 01:53 PM
I was simply glad Testament didn't cancel. Or Overkill for that matter. At times Bobby looked liked he was having difficulty. Walking pneumonia is a real pisser. Better to have something than nothing. Testament's sound was pretty poor. Being up front at the Palladium is awful for sound.

anomynous
02-17-2013, 01:57 PM
Overkill cancelled for tonight again

IrritatedTrout
02-17-2013, 02:38 PM
If you shoot a stand-alone show for DVD though then you're gonna have to overcome the issue of being rusty because you haven't played that set before or haven't played at all recently.


It's the reason why Bruce Dickinson and Klaus Meine still totally own live, they held back onstage in the 80s and didn't destroy their voice night after night. And that's why Rob Halford is a shell of his old self, even if dude is sounding way better than he has in like 10 years. Rob screamed his throat out onstage all throughout the seventies and eighties which was awesome at the time, but the long term damage he caused is more or less irreparable now.

I don't disagree that Bruce sounds great now but back in the day his voice ranged from pretty good to totally shot between the World Slavery tour and the time he left Maiden. He recovered marvelously in the mid-90's but during their heyday Maiden was touring so much that it seemed to have torn him up pretty good.

El Gordo
02-17-2013, 05:57 PM
Get this: Not everybody thinks that. The album's been on plenty of year-end lists. At least they did Rise Up instead of Native Blood.


Get THIS: Not everybody thinks that, either. It's not like they played deep cuts from The Ritual. I'd be perfectly happy seeing Disciples of the Watch, The Haunting, etc... Just because an album is "on plenty of year-end lists" doesn't mean anything. I wouldn't be going to a Baroness concert hoping to hear a bunch of Yellow and Green shit.

IrritatedTrout
02-17-2013, 06:02 PM
Get THIS: Not everybody thinks that, either. It's not like they played deep cuts from The Ritual.

Troubled Dreams, Return To Serenity, and Deadline would be great additions.:drool:

anomynous
02-17-2013, 06:07 PM
Get THIS: Not everybody thinks that, either. It's not like they played deep cuts from The Ritual. I'd be perfectly happy seeing Disciples of the Watch, The Haunting, etc... Just because an album is "on plenty of year-end lists" doesn't mean anything. I wouldn't be going to a Baroness concert hoping to hear a bunch of Yellow and Green shit.

Go to a show in an album's tour cycle and hope they don't play stuff off it: makes sense. Just saying.



I'd rather hear stuff they might only play supporting Dark Roots than Disciples, which they've played every tour they've ever done pretty much.

Only reason I pointed out the year-end thing is because for being such a "mediocre" album, a lot of people sure do like it.

El Gordo
02-17-2013, 08:21 PM
Go to a show in an album's tour cycle and hope they don't play stuff off it: makes sense. Just saying.



I'd rather hear stuff they might only play supporting Dark Roots than Disciples, which they've played every tour they've ever done pretty much.

Only reason I pointed out the year-end thing is because for being such a "mediocre" album, a lot of people sure do like it.

Fair enough. I don't know, I just haven't been in love with anything Testament has done since The Gathering outside of a few songs, so I'm perfectly content to hear Skolnick shred on old shit. I'm sure there are a lot of people who enjoy the new stuff just fine... but if I were to choose, Overkill would be headlining and playing a whole lot off of Ironbound and The Electric Age.

anomynous
02-17-2013, 08:43 PM
I just don't get why they want to "save" Chuck's voice, but still leave DNR & Formation in the set.





wut.

Nater
02-17-2013, 11:15 PM
Every song they are playing off the new album on this tour they played on the last leg of the Anthrax tour. I don't think to many people really cared that they didn't play 3 songs.

anomynous
02-17-2013, 11:17 PM
Are there even any stops that are on this tour and were on the anthrax one?


Edit:


01.30 San Francisco, CA – The Filmore (no Flotsam And Jetsam)
01.31 Anaheim, CA – House Of Blues (no Flotsam And Jetsam)
02.01 Tempe, AZ – The Marquee (no Flotsam And Jetsam)
02.02 Hollywood, CA – House Of Blues (no Flotsam And Jetsam)
02.04 Albuquerque, NM – Sunshine Theater (no Flotsam And Jetsam)
02.05 Austin, TX – Emo’s
02/06 Houston, TX – House Of Blues
02.07 Dallas, TX – House Of Blues
02.09 Atlanta, GA – Masquerade
02.10 Charlotte, NC – The Fillmore
02.12 Silver Spring, MD – The Fillmore
02.13 Philadelphia, PA – Trocadero
02.14 New York, NY – Best Buy Theatre
02.15 Huntington, NY – The Paramount
02.16 Worcester, MA – The Palladium
02.17 Buffalo, NY – Town Ballroom
02.18 Toronto, ON – Phoenix Concert Theatre
02.20 Cincinnati, OH – Bogart’s
02.21 Grand Rapids, MI – The Intersection
02.22 Milwaukee, WI – The Rave
02.23 Minneapolis, MN – First Avenue
02.25 Denver, CO – The Summit Music Hall
02.26 Salt Lake City, UT – In The Venue
02.27 Reno, NV – Knitting Factory
02.28 Sacramento, CA – Ace Of Spades

9/14 — Sacramento, Calif. — Ace of Spades
9/15 — Portland, Ore. — Roseland Theatre
9/16 — Kennewick, Wash. — Toyota Arena
9/17 — Spokane, Wash. — Knitting Factory
9/20 — Vancouver, British Columbia — Vogue Theatre
9/21 — Calgary, Alberta — MacEwan Hall Ballroom
9/22 — Edmonton, Alberta — Events Center
9/24 — Saskatoon, Saskatchewan — The Odeon
9/25 — Winnipeg, Manitoba — Burton Cummings Theatre
9/29 — Toronto, Ontario — Danforth Hall
9/30 — Quebec City, Quebec — Captiole du Quebec
10/2 — Montreal, Quebec — Metropolis
10/3 — Portland, Maine — State Theatre
10/5 — Montclair, N.J. — Wellmont Theatre


Two cities they hit twice. Therefore it's safe to say most of the audience hasn't seen any Dark Roots material live. Just weird to scrap that to "save" his voice but still do Formation, which is nearly all screaming.


It's weird to tour in support of an album and only play one song off it. Especially when they have a giant ass banner with the album art on it, and all the merch from it. With that said, more people will know Disciples than Native Blood, so......

IrritatedTrout
02-18-2013, 05:51 AM
It doesn't make sense to me but maybe actually singing is harder than screaming? I dunno.

Onioner
02-18-2013, 06:22 AM
It doesn't make sense to me but maybe actually singing is harder than screaming? I dunno.

Chuck can basically get away with talking the old songs, the new stuff definitely requires a lot more from him in terms of actual singing. Death growls actually aren't strenuous on your throat at all if you do it right, and Chuck's growl is really more of a raspy extension of his lower register than straight cookie monstering. I think that's a big reason why his lyrics are so discernible even when growled (same with Johan Hegg from Amon Amarth).

Wrecking Crew
02-18-2013, 09:25 AM
I thought Overkill's sound was spot on.

Overkill has awesome live sound, at their show in Portland in 2010, I didn't even need earplugs, it was absolutely perfect. Hope Blitz gets better, Overkill needs to live forever!