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brutal_descent
09-07-2012, 07:02 AM
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Let the love commence.

Blitzkrieg Witchcraft
09-07-2012, 05:23 PM
Love me some Breaking Bad. I just started watching about 2 months ago but caught up with the help of Netflix streaming. Can't wait for the final 8 episodes.

Also started watching Hell on Wheels on netflix. Another highly recommended AMC Series.

Coma323
09-07-2012, 05:24 PM
After hearing good things about this show for a long time, I just started watching last week after picking up the first season at FYE for $10. Awesome show so far.

daimonos
09-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Favorite show.

ShatteredFlame
09-07-2012, 06:39 PM
Been a fan since last year when Season 4 just ended. Season 5 was my first time watching it weekly on tv.

MunicipalWasted
09-08-2012, 07:01 AM
Anyone realize that in the latest season we only see Walter White like twice? The entire time it's Heisenberg. The monster has completely took over and he "broke bad" Anyways, I have so much love this show and I'm almost positive I'm getting a Heisenberg portrait on my leg

MPF
09-08-2012, 05:27 PM
The best show on TV.

OraclesofAgony
09-08-2012, 05:29 PM
I hate AMC for making me wait so long for the next half of the season.

The writers dropped the perfect cliffhanger too, like they always do.

masterguy49
09-08-2012, 06:32 PM
Been in love for over a year now, managed to get all my friends to fall in love with it. So bittersweet that it's finally ending. I have a feeling that the next 8 episodes will be the best they release.

That fucking Train Heist episode tho.

XDoomsayerX
09-08-2012, 06:38 PM
:party::eek::bowdown::drool::wow::lovedup::party: :eek::bowdown::drool::wow::lovedup:

MunicipalWasted
09-09-2012, 06:52 AM
I hate AMC for making me wait so long for the next half of the season.

The writers dropped the perfect cliffhanger too, like they always do.

It's perfect, man. So much anticipation is going to build and the writers are going to kill it.

get stoked. :party:

Sepultura69
09-09-2012, 07:01 AM
Hey am I the only one who thinks Guss looks kind of like Obama? :lol:

Amazing Series. I watched the first two seasons a couple of years ago(When the plane crash). Just started watching it again, on season 3: episode 11 so far. Need to get back on that, haven't had a chance to watch an episode in a couple of weeks. But as far as I know, my friends have told me the series gets way more intense, crazier, and fucked up, especially in season 4 and 5.

Sanitarium78
09-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Anyone realize that in the latest season we only see Walter White like twice? The entire time it's Heisenberg.

No Way!!!!:eek: Really???:lol:

The transformation really took place last season when he poisoned Brock and then killed Gus.

This is where Heisenberg took over permanently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqkYr5uIreg

Great show, it's too bad we've got to wait until next year to see how it ends. Becasue of how Walt has used and manipulated Jesse this whole time I think it would be cool if Jesse is the last man standing when everything is said and done.

Along with Michael C Hall on Dexter, Bryan Cranston and Arron Paul's performances on this show are the best i've ever seen on any cable drama.

Sepultura69
09-10-2012, 11:36 AM
No Way!!!!:eek: Really???:lol:

The transformation really took place last season when he poisoned Brock and then killed Gus.


fuck me, why the hell did i read this post. I'm only on season 3, episode 11. Oh well, my fault anyways. :(

brutal_descent
09-10-2012, 11:37 AM
fuck me, why the hell did i read this post. I'm only on season 3, episode 11. Oh well, my fault anyways. :(

Were you really expecting for people to be respectful enough to not talk about spoilers here? :lol:

Sepultura69
09-10-2012, 11:38 AM
Were you really expecting for people to be respectful enough to not talk about spoilers here? :lol:

Yes, or at least put spoiler warnings, but either way its my own damn fault. :hmm:

Sanitarium78
09-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Yes, or at least put spoiler warnings, but either way its my own damn fault. :hmm:

Yes, it is your fault. Never read other posts in a thread about a TV show if you haven't seen it all the way through. Seems like common sense to me;)

To tell you the truth, it never even occured to me to put any spoiler warnings up. Considering this sites reason for being is spoilers, I never gave it a second thought when I typed that.

brutal_descent
12-09-2012, 04:36 AM
Re-watching the entire series to kill time. It's even better the second time around :rocker:

Sanitarium78
08-25-2013, 08:43 AM
Loved the first two episodes of this season so far. The show as always is wasting no time when it comes making shit happen. The ending to this series should be great.

SomewhereInTime72
08-28-2013, 03:26 AM
Current (half) season has been nothing short of amazing. :drool:

mankvill
08-28-2013, 06:00 PM
SPOILER

Walt's confession might have made the last episode the single greatest episode of television in history.

powerslave_85
08-28-2013, 06:55 PM
My jaw was on the fucking floor. Never saw that coming.

SomewhereInTime72
08-31-2013, 12:14 AM
image not embedded because spoilers, but LOL: http://i.imgur.com/AboyNcj.png

Sepultura69
08-31-2013, 01:01 AM
I just hopped back on the breaking bad bandwagon. Last stopped at Season 3 episode 11. I am currently on Season 4 episode 6. SHIT IS GETTING FUCKING REAL.

ShatteredFlame
09-09-2013, 04:11 AM
So how about last nights episode? :lovedup:

Dextrimental
09-09-2013, 07:09 AM
So how about last nights episode? :lovedup:

Yeah, I was tempted to do an article this morning telling people to start Breaking Bad now and catch up before the end, because this shit is getting REAL.

Awesome, awesome episode last night. Beginning to end a powerhouse.

mankvill
09-09-2013, 08:42 AM
I wanted to die in the last 5 minutes. I like had my hands over my eyes for most of it.

Shit is getting REAL. And I hate that I have to wait a week for the next episode. Netflix has ruined me.

Sanitarium78
09-09-2013, 03:02 PM
Hank shouldn't have wasted time calling Marie. Once he had Walt in cuffs and in his vehicle he should've hauled his ass off to jail as fast as possible. While Hank was on the phone with Marie I was talking to the TV telling him to "get the fuck outta there, Walt's guys are coming".

Another awesome episode and another great cliffhanger ending.

Sepultura69
09-10-2013, 05:40 PM
ignores spoiler posts :eyes: :eyes::flame: :party: :party::eek: :eek:

As of this morning I am currently on season 4: Episode 12!!! Goddamn this show is getting FUCKING intense. :D

I try to watch an episode or two a day before heading out to work to kill some time. :cool:

masterguy49
09-15-2013, 06:09 PM
Well.

FUCK.

That was probably the high point of Breaking Bad, really.

mankvill
09-15-2013, 06:14 PM
Jesus that episode

Sanitarium78
09-16-2013, 07:06 AM
Last night's episode is pretty much the best episode I've seen of anything, ever. And we still got two more to go:D

Sepultura69
09-25-2013, 10:17 PM
Today I finally caught up with every single episode of breaking bad. "Ozymandias" may be the best episode I have ever seen to any tv show. Holy fucking shit IS really all I can say about that episode. It's a damn shame that this show is finally coming it's end. It was one hell of a ride. Walter White will go down in Television history as one of the greatest Characters in TV Drama. :hmm:

christopher
09-26-2013, 12:08 AM
My friend said the best thing

Here's how I hope they end it.

Walt kills Todd and his crew saves Jessie's but Walt dies in the process

Fast forward two years
We see Jessie kicking it in Albuquerque by himself the the camera is on ground level and all we hear is "click.... Click.....click.... Click"
As we see two crutches come into view.

Camera pans up and we see Walt JR.
"J-j-j-j Jessie, we need to C-c-c-c-cook."

CREDITS


Then you get the sequel show "Walking Bad"

Sepultura69
09-29-2013, 03:46 PM
ZOMG LAST EPISODE TONIGHT! ALL HAIL HEISENBERG. :bowdown:

Sanitarium78
10-01-2013, 06:52 AM
Now that's how you end a TV series:rocker:

They gave us a proper ending to everything and tied up all the loose ends. Perfect series finale:bowdown:

Sepultura69
10-01-2013, 07:03 AM
Now that's how you end a TV series:rocker:

They gave us a proper ending to everything and tied up all the loose ends. Perfect series finale:bowdown:

The scene with Walt and Sklyer was my favorite part of that episode. Especially the "I did it for me, I was good at it, made me feel alive" part. One thing i love about this show is the timing and placing of songs during ending credits or certain scenes. I knew they would choose a dope song for the ending and I think "Baby blue" by Bad Finger was just PERFECT. Especially with the opening lines "I Guess I got what I deserved"

It's safe to say that this series will go down as one of the greatest TV shows of all time. :hmm:

Sanitarium78
10-01-2013, 07:08 AM
The scene with Walt and Sklyer was my favorite part from that episode. Especially the "I did it for me, I was good at it, made me feel alive" part. Deep shit. :hmm:

It's safe to say that this series will go down as one of the greatest TV shows of all time. :hmm:

Yep, it is one of the greatest, if not the greatest TV show ever. I'll have to re-watch the show again but I don't recall it having any flaws or at least any that bothered me too much.

Future TV show writers need to use Breaking Bad as the template for how to write a proper show from beginning to end. The main story never got pushed to the side in favor of the show going in a different direction. The series creator and the writers remained focused on giving us a complete story with no bullshit. That's what made it so great, they knew what they wanted to do and never strayed from it.

It's gonna be a long time before we see a show this good again on TV and see performances as strong as Bryan Cranston's and Aaron Paul's were.

Dextrimental
10-01-2013, 12:50 PM
It's gonna be a long time before we see a show this good again on TV and see performances as strong as Bryan Cranston's and Aaron Paul's were.

This.

Top class all the way, probably the most satisfying ending I've ever seen to a TV show.

I will have to re-watch and see how it ranks upon second viewing, but it is absolutely one for the ages in how to do a long-form narrative and make it work.

I find it funny Aaron Paul is doing 'Need for Speed' and Bryan Cranston is doing 'Godzilla', really obvious they wanted much lighter roles after such harsh roles as Walt and Jesse. Those films will probably be like holidays to them in terms of stress and getting into character!

hb420
11-19-2013, 12:14 AM
Just saw the alternate ending to the show, fantastic stuff! :lol:
If you haven't and are a fan of the show you must do so now!

300%_Density
12-26-2013, 09:13 PM
I'm drained. Me & the wife started this on Netflix back in October (hitting Project Free TV for the last 8 episodes) & just finished it. I haven't felt actually emotionally involved in the last few episodes of a show since Six Feet Under. Even though I loved Dexter, the finale just really trashed the franchise IMO where this finale lived up to the hype.

And Ozymandias, if a better hour of tv has ever existed in the history of tv then show me. I would much like to see it.

PowerMaiden
03-15-2014, 08:39 PM
I started it on dvd a week ago and now I'm up to midway season 2. really good show


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

PowerMaiden
04-21-2014, 05:37 PM
just finished the last episode ... wow. This was nothing short of awesome for the whole series

Cheers !
PowerMaiden

John The Drummer
12-22-2014, 12:06 PM
I'm reviving this thread. I just got into the series (I keep finding the DVDs on sale, so fuck yeah!) this year and am midway through the second season. Such a great show. All the characters have a meaning, all the intense moments are intense, and it really makes you think. I like how they have something happen in one episode, then 7 episodes later they revisit that and you go "Oh hey, I forgot abuot that!" Can't wait to get further!

Maideneer
12-22-2014, 12:27 PM
Wow I had no idea this thread existed, oops. Me and the wife ordered up Netflix entirely for this purpose...we binge watched every single episode in 6 or 7 days flat, but this was more than a year ago or so. I've never seen a TV show so good.

^Honestly, I didn't see how things could go much further than midway through Season 4...I literally said to myself how in the hell can this keep going?! Every episode felt like it could be the end. Enjoy, I wish I could go back and watch it for the first time.

And I can't get this damn song out of my head.

/1xfJpPNg2SM

And lastly, are we all ready for BETTER CALL SAUL?! 2/8/15!!

marker
12-22-2014, 02:09 PM
Of course we're ready for Saul.

300%_Density
12-28-2014, 12:15 PM
Marathon on AMC!!!

John The Drummer
12-29-2014, 07:58 AM
Finished season 2 over the weekend! That ending caught me by surprise! And I also wasn't expecting them to kill off Jesse's girlfriend so fast! I thougth she'd be in the series for at least another season!

300%_Density
12-29-2014, 10:55 AM
Finished season 2 over the weekend! That ending caught me by surprise! And I also wasn't expecting them to kill off Jesse's girlfriend so fast! I thougth she'd be in the series for at least another season!

So I know you are several seasons away. But when you get to season 5 you will see one of the finest and gut wrenching hours of tv... Ever!!! Episode is Ozymandias.

John The Drummer
12-29-2014, 11:16 AM
Can't wait! I normally need to kill 2 hours after work sitting on my but on band practice nights because where we practice is on the way home for me, so I should start packing my Breaking Bad discs and watch them to kill time! :)

John The Drummer
01-05-2015, 02:18 PM
Only one more episode of Season 3 left! I really REALLY want to take the sogn "99 Problems" and overdub everytime it says "Bitch" with a sample of Jesse saying it :)

Sanitarium78
01-06-2015, 03:51 PM
Only one more episode of Season 3 left! I really REALLY want to take the sogn "99 Problems" and overdub everytime it says "Bitch" with a sample of Jesse saying it :)

Wait til you get to season four. That's when the show really starts to get good.

John The Drummer
01-09-2015, 02:01 PM
Roughly halfway through season 4... started off a bit slow, more focused on character building between Walt and Sky, but now its gotten intense with what's his face (DEA agent bro in law) and him being too smart! Last episode I watched ended with Gus and that older Mexican dude in the wheel chair reliving their past.

I thought Gus' partner in that flashback was the same guy that he met with to talk about their deal, but obviously that could not have been right.

300%_Density
01-09-2015, 07:52 PM
Let us know your reaction after you are done w/ "Face Off" which should be season 4 finale. Always like hearing the reaction to someone who hasn't seen it yet. :)

Onioner
01-11-2015, 09:53 AM
Every time I think about Los Pollos Hermanos I really want to eat fried chicken.

John The Drummer
01-13-2015, 07:18 AM
Let us know your reaction after you are done w/ "Face Off" which should be season 4 finale. Always like hearing the reaction to someone who hasn't seen it yet. :)

THat was a brutal! That episode had me wondering the whole time "whats going to happen next!?" Then the ending, jesus! I thought Gus was giong to be like The Terminator or something and just walk away, but nope. The series definitely could have ended there, but now two more seasons. Season 5 so far isn't bad, but kinda feels forced, we'll see what ends up happenign :)

Onioner
01-13-2015, 07:50 AM
Season 5 so far isn't bad, but kinda feels forced, we'll see what ends up happenign :)

The second half of Season 5 is legit insane. Nothing will compare to watching it week-by-week with all my friends smashed in a tiny apartment a year ago and having to wait a few days to go find out what would happen next.

I'm pretty sure this was me and my friends during every Season 5.5 episode: "WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUCK. SHIT. FUCK." (someone dies) "OHHHHHHHHH SNAP. DID THAT JUST HAPPEN. SHIT GOT REAL. DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN."

Maideneer
01-13-2015, 07:52 AM
I greatly treasure my Los Pollos Hermanos t-shirt. Seriously, I wish I could go back and experience all this for the first time.

John The Drummer
01-16-2015, 12:34 PM
Only a few more episodes of Season 5 left now. JAYZUS, that death after the train robbery... WHA DUH FUGH!!??!!?!? That was intense. Probably going to finish it up over the weekend, then wait for the Final Season to make it in the mail (thanks cheap amazon! :D ). Can't wait!

Sanitarium78
01-16-2015, 01:00 PM
Only a few more episodes of Season 5 left now. JAYZUS, that death after the train robbery... WHA DUH FUGH!!??!!?!? That was intense. Probably going to finish it up over the weekend, then wait for the Final Season to make it in the mail (thanks cheap amazon! :D ). Can't wait!

Season five is the final season, it's just divided into two parts. I hope you didn't get scammed and accidently buy a season six which doesn't exist.

The death after the train robbery was intense but you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait for those last few episodes.

John The Drummer
01-16-2015, 01:14 PM
Well, I have Season 5... then there is one that says "The Final Season" .... so obvious scam is obvious. ... :(

smearCampaign
01-16-2015, 01:15 PM
Season five is the final season, it's just divided into two parts. I hope you didn't get scammed and accidently buy a season six which doesn't exist.

The death after the train robbery was intense but you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait for those last few episodes.

Well, I have Season 5... then there is one that says "The Final Season" .... so obvious scam is obvious. ... :(

You should be good. Season 5 was broken into two 'parts'. The first half of season 5 dvds is labeled Season 5 and the second half is labeled The Final Season.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Breaking_Bad_season_five_part_i_and_ii_dvd.png

300%_Density
01-16-2015, 02:06 PM
The death after the train robbery was intense but you ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait for those last few episodes.

All of this.

christopher
01-16-2015, 02:28 PM
Well, I have Season 5... then there is one that says "The Final Season" .... so obvious scam is obvious. ... :(

Why didn't you just watch it on Netflix?

John The Drummer
01-19-2015, 12:20 PM
Why didn't you just watch it on Netflix?
I don't have Netflix :)

Anyway, finished up Season 5 (waiting for Final Season to come in this week), poor Mike :(. That sucks, so much rage for that scene! The changing in Walt's character is SO OBVIOUS now, gawww! The ending of this with DEA bro-in-law sittign on the toilet and finding that book.... I HATE CLIFFHANGERS.

derangedperson
01-22-2015, 08:01 PM
I don't have Netflix :)

Anyway, finished up Season 5 (waiting for Final Season to come in this week), poor Mike :(. That sucks, so much rage for that scene! The changing in Walt's character is SO OBVIOUS now, gawww! The ending of this with DEA bro-in-law sittign on the toilet and finding that book.... I HATE CLIFFHANGERS.

If you thought the first half was good, you just wait. The episode Ozymandias will blow your head off.

John The Drummer
01-26-2015, 11:52 AM
Finished up the series over the weekend :rocker:

So great, just so great. I forgot what moment it was that lost all respect for Walt and hated him, but that last episode really made me root for him. I guess in a way you could say that he had the last laugh. I didn't understand why he had to kill Lydia too, but I guess since she was helping produce HIS product, why not!?

I knew that Hank would die somehow, I just didn't know how it would happen, so as unsurprised as I was, it was still shocking... and then Jesse's ex-Girlfriend... gaw.... so many intense moments! Such a great series, and I now see what all the hype was over it, and it lived up to it 100%. I really love how that last season was just bad thing after bad thing, everything fell apart, it made me, as a viewer, even feel there was no hope for things to turn around, then to go out with a bang (pun intended) really made it all come full circle and end on a (kinda) high note.

I'd still like to know what became of the White's and Hanks wife, as well as Jesse. I thought Walt Jr. was going to die, but really happy that expectation didn't occur! Anyone know why those guys were sitting in that car watching him as he got off of the school bus? Seemed kind of random.

300%_Density
02-04-2015, 04:01 PM
How do you know this is a great show?

I saw the train episode last night. I was so goddamn anxious I forgot to breathe while watching even though I had seen it before. Damn that ending bums me out still.

smearCampaign
02-04-2015, 04:16 PM
Anyone know why those guys were sitting in that car watching him as he got off of the school bus? Seemed kind of random.

Since Walt called to turn himself in initially before seeing the interview with Elliot and Gretchen the feds are keeping his family under surveillance to see if Walt turns up. That's what I got out of that scene anyway....

PublicEnemy
02-05-2015, 11:13 AM
The show was a great one but the ending was predictable

John The Drummer
02-05-2015, 11:16 AM
Since Walt called to turn himself in initially before seeing the interview with Elliot and Gretchen the feds are keeping his family under surveillance to see if Walt turns up. That's what I got out of that scene anyway....

I thought those were High School kids :lol: Dang... time to renew my glasses prescription!

The show was a great one but the ending was predictable

Was it? I didn't expect it at all. The very first time I saw Breaking Bad was when Walt was down on the bathroom floor talking to Skylar, I thought that was the season finale so the whole time I watched this series I was under the impression his cancer got the best of him and he died that way, didn't expect him to go down the way he did.

300%_Density
02-09-2015, 07:08 AM
Didn't know if it was worth a new thread, loved the first Saul episode. And hey, I didn't know Tuco was in this too!!! I can't wait for more Mike. He was one of my favorites. This also makes Jimmy come off as a very sympathetic figure. I felt more sorry for him than I think I ever did during all of BB. What did others think of it?

John The Drummer
02-09-2015, 07:45 AM
I thought it was an ok first episode. Might tune in for episode 2 tonight and see it clicks a little better now that I have a feel for it. Cool to see previous Break Bad characters in it :)

300%_Density
02-09-2015, 08:07 AM
I have big hopes. I know it won't revolutionize anything like BB did. Saul was one of my favorite characters from the series. I think this will turn into a good series.

MetalIsArt
02-09-2015, 09:24 AM
I'm certainly gonna follow, but I'm insanely behind with Gotham & The Blacklist.

I also wonder if he's strong enough as an actor to carry a whole series. And no, I don't believe Jesse & Walt won't wake an appearance.

Jean Grey & Cyclopse were ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! in XDOFP either...

XDoomsayerX
02-09-2015, 11:15 PM
Better Call Saul is quality thus far.

Really digging how Jimmy's story is unfolding thus far.

MetalIsArt
02-12-2015, 01:54 AM
So yeah...

It is indeed good. But... the "funny" moments he has, like in the first ep with all them lawyers in their meeting room, aren't actually funny. Done on purpose, I imagine.

Great opening in b&w too.

300%_Density
03-09-2015, 07:10 PM
Best episode of Saul yet. Even if there was little Saul invloved. Mike is one of my favorite characters. Intense episode.

Coma323
03-11-2015, 01:56 PM
Yeah last night's episode was my favorite yet. The "I know it was you" part was fantastic.

crazymetalhead
04-02-2015, 04:50 AM
I know Im completely behind on this as many others of you were too. I just finished the series last night after a good 2 month binge watching an eps or 2 every other night with the wife....

HOLY FUCKING HELL what a show!!!:eek: Never has a show gotten me so enthralled and cared about characters so much! I was so sad to see it end :bawling: But I think they ended it justly!

Just re-read through this whole thread and many of you are spot on with the amazing eps. When Walt completed his "confession" I was fist pumping the air and cheering a huge Fuck Yeah! One of the best scenes!! The transformation, the heartbreak, the evilness, the father... my God! So many parts and eps stand out!

Completely agree...one of (if not) the best TV show ever!

Loving Saul BTW...cant wait to see how it ends this Monday!!!

Natrlhi
04-02-2015, 05:43 AM
I'm loving Saul too. The tie-in with Tuco is really timely because I haven't watched all of BB yet, but I did just happen to watch the episode where he gets shot dead last night (I'm only in Season 2 so far). I've seen bits and pieces of the rest of the BB series - enough to know that Mike is a very interesting character and I love what I've seen of him in Saul thus far. So hating Jimmy's crazy brother right now. What a douche.

EDIT: To whomever said that they didn't know if Bob Odenkirk can carry a whole series on his shoulders, I have two things to say: (1) fuck that, he's fantastic and he obviously can, and (2) he doesn't have to, because there are already a bunch of other great characters forming throughout this show, such that I think it'll be a very interesting series. Looking forward to see where the writers will take it.

300%_Density
04-06-2015, 08:12 PM
So can anyone verify the authenticity of the Chicago sunroof?

:D

Natrlhi
04-08-2015, 02:39 PM
So can anyone verify the authenticity of the Chicago sunroof?

:D
I've seen it done, but nobody called it a Chicago sunroof at the time. :D

Natrlhi
04-22-2015, 01:52 PM
Back on topic...I'm about halfway through the series now. The last episode I watched was S3E9 "Kafkaesque", wherein Skyler proposes to Marie that she and Walt pay for Hank's medical bills with the money Walt made while still in the throes of his severe "gambling habit". Clearly this is the point where Skyler starts to get more involved with Walt's shenanigans, which I knew about to some extent because of seeing bits and pieces of random episodes when my wife was power-watching the series about a year ago. Looks like things are going to get even more interesting from here.

Speaking of the tie-in with the "Saul" prequel series...Saul is clearly a different person by the time he reaches this point in his life. All traces of the conscience he had in the first season of the spinoff series are gone when we meet his character for the first time in BB. It'll be interesting to watch the transition from Jimmy to Saul since he clearly has a lot of devolving to do throughout the storyline. I have to admit I was a bit sad at the way the first season ended, as I really wanted to see him take the new offer with the other firm to work on the case he had built and get paid handsomely for it - but of course I knew he would eventually have to turn away from his conscience in order to connect the dots to him eventually becoming the Saul we love to hate from BB.

EDIT: Both of these shows are freaking spectacular. :D

Natrlhi
04-27-2015, 08:22 AM
I'm about 2/3 of the way through Season 4 at this point. The last episode I watched last night was familiar to me because I had seen part of it when my wife was watching the series. I have a feeling the next few episodes will go fast because I already know what will happen (but now I can enjoy it more because I have all the proper context).

Can't wait to see how this thing ends. As I've said before, I think I know te biggest spoiler of the series already, but (1) I'm not 100% sure I've heard it correctly, and (2) I don't know the details of how or why it happens, so I'm still in good shape to be surprised by the ending.

The worst part will be that when it ends, there will be no more to watch. "Saul" isn't a bad surrogate, but so far the original series has been much more gritty and just plain badass. Watching Jimmy transform into Saul just doesn't seem to be as compelling of a concept as watching Walt devolve into a complete monster.

Natrlhi
05-07-2015, 11:55 AM
Six episodes to go. I can't believe Walt actually, finally got made, but then again it makes sense that he couldn't go on doing his thing with impunity forever I guess.

Also, he's really unravelling fast now. This season more than any other shows the devolution (or as High on Fire would say, Devilution?) of his character into utter chaos. Such a great show. I'll be bummed after it's over for sure.

Onioner
05-07-2015, 02:03 PM
Six episodes to go. I can't believe Walt actually, finally got made, but then again it makes sense that he couldn't go on doing his thing with impunity forever I guess.

Also, he's really unravelling fast now. This season more than any other shows the devolution (or as High on Fire would say, Devilution?) of his character into utter chaos. Such a great show. I'll be bummed after it's over for sure.

The last handful of episodes are fucking nuts. Have fun!

John The Drummer
05-08-2015, 10:56 AM
I felt the last handful of episodes were random and rushed at first, but then once I got through them they all made sense. Gaw, still miss this show. I want to rewatch it again :D

MetalIsArt
05-09-2015, 04:29 AM
I felt the last handful of episodes were random and rushed at first, but then once I got through them they all made sense. Gaw, still miss this show. I want to rewatch it again :D

It'Saul Good, man. :D

Natrlhi
05-12-2015, 08:14 AM
Finally finished watching the series this past weekend. Onioner, you were totally right. The last half dozen episodes or so were just bonkers.

Well, that was the best show I've ever watched. Period. End of story.

I'm simultaneously glad that I've finally seen it and that my sleep schedule can stop being so jacked up due to my recent rash of ill-advised late night bouts of power-watching several episodes at a time, and saddened that I'll never watch another original episode of that beautiful masterpiece ever again.

"Now...say my name."

"You're...Heisenberg."

"You're goddamn right."

:bowdown: :drool: :party:

300%_Density
05-12-2015, 08:28 AM
Finally finished watching the series this past weekend. Onioner, you were totally right. The last half dozen episodes or so were just bonkers.

Well, that was the best show I've ever watched. Period. End of story.

I'm simultaneously glad that I've finally seen it and that my sleep schedule can stop being so jacked up due to my recent rash of ill-advised late night bouts of power-watching several episodes at a time, and saddened that I'll never watch another original episode of that beautiful masterpiece ever again.

"Now...say my name."

"You're...Heisenberg."

"You're goddamn right."

:bowdown: :drool: :party:

:party::party::party::party::party:

MetalIsArt
05-12-2015, 10:32 AM
:party::party::party::party::party:

Welcome to the club :party::party::party:

John The Drummer
05-12-2015, 10:47 AM
My Dad just finished up the series the other night too :party:
He came into my room and said "Ok... where's the next season?"
"That was the last one..."
"WHAT!?"

He was so hooked and now has the same emptiness we all feel from it being over :(

300%_Density
05-12-2015, 12:05 PM
Welcome to the club :party::party::party:

Been a card carrying member starting a few months after the final episode!

Natrlhi
05-13-2015, 09:17 AM
So about the Saul spin-off series...as I said before, I'm really looking forward to watching the devolution of Jimmy in a similar way as Walt, but it also occurred to me that they are gearing up to do the same with Mike as well. I know that's kind of obviious in hindsight, but I really didn't notice it before with my limited BB background at the time.

That's awesome, because Mike was one of my favorite characters. He starts out as such a decent guy (not necessarily nice, but he's at least moral) - it'll be interesting to see what it takes to turn him into the cold-blooded killer he was in BB.

I also saw an interview with Giancarlo Esposito on YouBoob yesterday that hinted at the possibility of a "Rise of Gus" spinoff at some point. That could be pretty cool as well. Sounds like Esposito would be all over it.

Then again, if the show's creators would be OK with that, I say why don't they just reveal that Walt didn't actually die and just get on with re-starting the original series?

MetalIsArt
05-13-2015, 11:57 AM
I can't believe we won't see any other BB characters in Better Call Saul.

Onioner
05-13-2015, 12:10 PM
I can't believe we won't see any other BB characters in Better Call Saul.

I think that rule only applied to Season 1 of BCS. I think anyone is fair game, but having a cameo from Walt or Jesse wouldn't make sense unless it was only for pure fan service.

Natrlhi, BCS starts a little slow, and becomes totally amazing from the middle to the end. Stick with it if you don't dig it at first. I did think that BCS was much better absorbed on a weekly basis compared to BB, which I think was more friendly for binge watching. But yeah, BCS is shaping up to be an outstanding series, but without the kind of draggyness of BB's first season.

Natrlhi
05-13-2015, 02:01 PM
To clarify, I've watched BCS from the beginning, and I loved it even before I had the full background of having watched BB. Now that I've finished BB, I'm even more pumped for the rest of BCS.

Also, I'm sure we'll see other BB characters in BCS. I'd even bet that Walt and / or Jesse shows up, but probably toward the end of whatever the BCS's run is expected to be. I mean, it wouldn't make sense otherwise, because as soon as they meet, the storylines from the shows would overlap and all they could do is tell another side of the BB story that we never saw in that series - maybe some of the events could be fleshed out from Saul's perspective.

Frankly, it doesn't sound like that concept would work very well though. At that point they might as well just reboot BB and go forward from where that show left off - which is something I'm totally hoping against hope will happen someday.

Natrlhi
05-13-2015, 02:06 PM
By the way - on a totallly unrelated but kinda related note - those of you who loved BB and BCS would probably really dig Fargo. Last I heard they were thinking about doing another season, but I've not read anything more about whether that will happen or not. Without giving too much away, let's just say that given the way the mini-series ended, they would pretty much have to make up a whole new story in order to have another show, but I could easily see them doing that.

Anyway, the show was odd and violent and creepily funny and suspenseful and the characters were just so interesting - very much like the two shows discussed here.

MPF
05-13-2015, 02:49 PM
By the way - on a totallly unrelated but kinda related note - those of you who loved BB and BCS would probably really dig Fargo. Last I heard they were thinking about doing another season, but I've not read anything more about whether that will happen or not. Without giving too much away, let's just say that given the way the mini-series ended, they would pretty much have to make up a whole new story in order to have another show, but I could easily see them doing that.

Anyway, the show was odd and violent and creepily funny and suspenseful and the characters were just so interesting - very much like the two shows discussed here.

Fargo is fucking AWESOME! Can't wait for the next season, it's premiering in September I think?

MetalIsArt
05-14-2015, 12:36 AM
I loved the Fargo movie, but haven't seen the series yet.

Sanitarium78
02-15-2016, 11:44 AM
So, are we just using this thread to talk about Better Call Saul as well?

Anyways, season two starts tonight. The transformation into Saul slowly began last season. I'm guessing by the end of this season the the turn will be complete.

Looking forward to it.

John The Drummer
02-15-2016, 01:45 PM
I tried a few episodes from the first season but I just couldn't get into it. I may try again, but just didn't have that same magic that Breaking Bad had... then again... what does!? :cool:

Natrlhi
03-08-2016, 07:31 PM
BCS was fantastic last night. Has anyone else on here seen the light and started watching this awesome show yet?

The second season has been pretty good so far, but last night's episode was particularly awesome. Major advances in the story arcs of Saul, Mike and Tuco Salamanca.

SignoftheHammer
03-08-2016, 07:34 PM
I've been watching since the first episode aired, and Better Call Saul has yet to let me down. I fucking LOVE it.

Dare I say, I love it more than The Walking Dead as of late.

MetalIsArt
03-08-2016, 10:17 PM
I wasn't 100% sure about the first season.

But Odenkirk has grown a lot into his role... Banks is just the synonym for badass.

The comedy part is almost gone, and that's a good thing.

MPF
03-08-2016, 10:19 PM
I'm enjoying it as much as Breaking Bad, just in a different way.

Gotta catch up with the last 2 episodes which I'll probably do tomorrow night.

MetalIsArt
03-09-2016, 08:43 AM
I'm enjoying it as much as Breaking Bad, just in a different way.

Gotta catch up with the last 2 episodes which I'll probably do tomorrow night.

And? ;)

Natrlhi
03-09-2016, 08:52 AM
Ah, cool. Nice to see the show has some fans on here.

I've been watching since the first episode aired, and Better Call Saul has yet to let me down. I fucking LOVE it.
Ditto. :fist:

Dare I say, I love it more than The Walking Dead as of late.
Whoa - easy, now. Time to pump the brakes there, Skippy. :nonono:

But Odenkirk has grown a lot into his role... Banks is just the synonym for badass.

The comedy part is almost gone, and that's a good thing.
Agreed on all points, although I might make the hair-splitting observation that I think Odenkirk has always been awesome in the role of Saul.

I'm enjoying it as much as Breaking Bad, just in a different way.
That's an interesting comment, because it got me thinking how the two shows seemed pretty different at first, but the more I watch BCS, the more I can see similarities between the two. The more serious BCS gets, the more it reminds me of Breaking Bad.

Hopefully there'll be some serious life-threatening situations developing in the near future.

300%_Density
03-09-2016, 09:08 AM
Didn't get to see last night yet.

This season has really been an improvement over last season and I really liked last season.

Sanitarium78
03-09-2016, 11:38 AM
Been watching Saul since it started. If you're a fan of Breaking Bad and of Saul's character on it, there's no reason you shouldn't be watching Better Call Saul. You won't find something else better on at 10 on monday nights this time of year or probably any time of year unless there's a really good football game.

Excellent show and is done in the same way Breaking Bad was. This week's episode was great and it just keeps getting better as the story progresses. I'm just curious as to when the whole transformation into Saul will be complete. It looks like he's headed there now, but I still think we've got a ways to go before it happens. Some time next season, i'm thinking.

300%_Density
03-09-2016, 11:59 AM
I'm still waiting to see how they go to Saul as a Cinnabon employee. I know that we probably won't see the payoff for awhile. But eventually. That's not something I've missed is it?

Natrlhi
03-09-2016, 12:11 PM
I believe that character is supposed to be in the post-Breaking Bad timeline.

MetalIsArt
03-09-2016, 09:45 PM
Ah, cool. Nice to see the show has some fans on here.


Ditto. :fist:


Whoa - easy, now. Time to pump the brakes there, Skippy. :nonono:


Agreed on all points, although I might make the hair-splitting observation that I think Odenkirk has always been awesome in the role of Saul.


That's an interesting comment, because it got me thinking how the two shows seemed pretty different at first, but the more I watch BCS, the more I can see similarities between the two. The more serious BCS gets, the more it reminds me of Breaking Bad.

Hopefully there'll be some serious life-threatening situations developing in the near future.

He was good for the role he had in BB, yeah. But I never saw him as "leading man".

And now, he's proven that he can. Pretty cool.

MPF
03-09-2016, 10:09 PM
That's an interesting comment, because it got me thinking how the two shows seemed pretty different at first, but the more I watch BCS, the more I can see similarities between the two. The more serious BCS gets, the more it reminds me of Breaking Bad.

Hopefully there'll be some serious life-threatening situations developing in the near future.

Oh yeah, the obvious parallel in the way it's shot, directed, written, etc is still there. But I meant more along the lines of how We are looking through the eyes of Jimmy rather than through Walter. So that gives it a different atmosphere as they are 2 different styles of characters. Lots of similarities, but enough differences to make it feel different.

That said, I gotta catch up on the last couple episodes tomorrow.

MetalIsArt
03-12-2016, 09:00 AM
Oh yeah, the obvious parallel in the way it's shot, directed, written, etc is still there. But I meant more along the lines of how We are looking through the eyes of Jimmy rather than through Walter. So that gives it a different atmosphere as they are 2 different styles of characters. Lots of similarities, but enough differences to make it feel different.

That said, I gotta catch up on the last couple episodes tomorrow.

AND? :bouville::flame::tp:

Natrlhi
03-22-2016, 09:22 AM
So last night's episode was pretty killer. Don't want to post any spoilers - although if I understand the etiquette of other similar threads such as the TWD one, those are supposed to be expected and therefore not a problem - but I really like the new story developments for both Mike and Kim.

Mike is such a badass. He makes the entire show better by his involvement on it. It's been really great getting to find out all of the details of his backstory. Not only is he totally NTBFW, but he actually has a bit of a moral compass as well. Very rich character. I can't wait to see how the show's creators intertwine Mike and Saul's story arcs.

Kim's character is great, too. I love how they handled it in last night's episode with giving here this difficult choice to make based on the way she has been getting treated by that prick Howard at HHM. It looks like she is about to make a really great choice - and by great, I mean in terms of how interesting it's going to be for the audience - not only in her professional career but also in her "extra-professional" career as well, if you catch my drift.

I also love that they've brought back so many other characters, such as Tuco and his father Hector, plus Hector's nephews Leonel and Marco (a couple of truly psychotic BAMF's), not to mention some of Tuco's henchmen such as No-Doze, Gonzo and Crazy-8.

So yeah, this show pretty much rules. If you're a fan of BB, you really should be watching this. It's not as iconically awesome as Breaking Bad yet, but since it's the same folks who are making it, there's no reason not to expect great things. I'm fully hooked. :fist:

Maideneer
04-06-2016, 11:56 AM
I'm reading so many complaints from whining ADHD'ers that BCS is slow, plodding, boring, nothing happens, writing sucks, dragging, etc. Screw those people, this is a companion piece to BB not a parallel story. Who the hell is expecting drug running wild shootouts filled with death and despair from a story about a lawyer 6 years beforehand? It's stunning some people can't just appreciate the thing for what it is.

2 seasons in and look how many BB Easter eggs it's providing to us! It's a subtle show and I hope it keeps going this way.

BTW, in the last episode "Fifi", the 5 minute opening scene was absolutely amazing. One take, one camera, totally fluid. That's just downright incredible.

Natrlhi
04-06-2016, 12:10 PM
I'm reading so many complaints from whining ADHD'ers that BCS is slow, plodding, boring, nothing happens, writing sucks, dragging, etc. Screw those people, this is a companion piece to BB not a parallel story. Who the hell is expecting drug running wild shootouts filled with death and despair from a story about a lawyer 6 years beforehand? It's stunning some people can't just appreciate the thing for what it is.

2 seasons in and look how many BB Easter eggs it's providing to us! It's a subtle show and I hope it keeps going this way.

BTW, in the last episode "Fifi", the 5 minute opening scene was absolutely amazing. One take, one camera, totally fluid. That's just downright incredible.
All of this.

Natrlhi
04-06-2016, 12:22 PM
Y'know, I was going to make another smart-ass comment about AnthG to see if I could get him wound up again, but instead I see an opportunity here to explain myself a little, so I'm gonna try to be productive instead of sarcastic (for a change?), and take the high road.

I agreed with your comment not only because we both like this show, but also - and more importantly - because the comment you made parallels a lot of the comments I've made recently that have inspired some backlash from folks who shall remain nameless. Your argument, like mine, seems to be based on a general frustration with the fact that people seem to want to bitch about almost anything they can find to bitch about these days - and as if that weren't annoying enough - they don't even make good arguments for it. They whine (a word both you and I have used) about little details while missing the big picture, make false connections and assumptions, and yield to unrealistic expectations all in an effort to support making yet another negative post about something they supposedly don't like just for the mere sake of it.

Drives me nuts, it does. And sometimes, like you, I just can't seem to hold my tongue about it either.

So here's to you, brother. I support your comments about others' baseless bitching 100%. :fist:

SignoftheHammer
04-10-2016, 10:01 AM
Only two episodes left:flame:

I finally managed to watch the latest episode and I want to say that I fucking adore this show. Some people call it slow and plodding, and fair enough if you don't like it. I don't think there has been a dull episode yet. I'll say that this is my favorite show on AMC right now.

Sanitarium78
04-10-2016, 11:13 AM
Saul is my favorite show on TV right now. Don't understand all the hate it's getting. It's not like Breaking Bad was action packed all the time. There was a lot of storytelling and character development throughout the shows run. Saul is doing it the exact same way.

MetalIsArt
04-10-2016, 11:20 AM
Saul is my favorite show on TV right now. Don't understand all the hate it's getting. It's not like Breaking Bad was action packed all the time. There was a lot of storytelling and character development throughout the shows run. Saul is doing it the exact same way.

I have the feeling the ending of Better Call Saul will be violent enough, or at least tense, and tbh I know more people that like it than don't.
Even though the second season is better than the first, "bad" it never was.

Maideneer
04-11-2016, 05:33 AM
Just binge watched all of BCS this weekend to prep for tonight's show. I'm developing a sickness where BCS/BB is all I think about.

There's so many ways they could go with this.

1) They could finish up this series where BB starts off with Saul
2) They could finish it up post-BB where we see Gene in action
3) They could eventually parallel the BB timeline where we follow Saul when he's not helping Jesse/Walt. We never did see his personal life during BB, hell he could be with Kim and we don't even know it.

Sanitarium78
04-11-2016, 02:06 PM
Just binge watched all of BCS this weekend to prep for tonight's show. I'm developing a sickness where BCS/BB is all I think about.

There's so many ways they could go with this.

1) They could finish up this series where BB starts off with Saul
2) They could finish it up post-BB where we see Gene in action
3) They could eventually parallel the BB timeline where we follow Saul when he's not helping Jesse/Walt. We never did see his personal life during BB, hell he could be with Kim and we don't even know it.

1) This would be a good way to end it but I want to see at least a couple seasons with him as Saul first.

2) It's possible it could end this way. But unless they plan something major to go down with it, I think the flash forward scenes are fine.

3) This would be cool. We know that Walt and Jesse weren't the only people he took care of during the BB timeline. He can even make references to them when he's talking with other clients/people.

I don't think Kim is around for much longer. I believe his transformation into Saul happens because she leaves him due to the way he practices law, he fucks up in some other way, or she is killed by one of Saul's shady clients when she gets caught in the middle of something. Either way, Kim's loyalty to Jimmy is gonna cost her. I've felt like that since last season.

Looking forward to however it goes down. I trust Vince Gilligan, he seems to know what he's doing;)

Natrlhi
04-11-2016, 02:17 PM
:party: I agree with all you hoodlums. I love this show and can't wait to see where they go with it.

Maideneer
04-11-2016, 08:26 PM
Oh my goodness.

MPF
04-11-2016, 08:34 PM
Watching this as soon as it comes up on On Demand.

This is only getting better and better. I can tell the last scene from next week is where the shit will officially hit the fan.

Season 3 will be awesome...I just hope the ratings will be as well.

Maideneer
04-11-2016, 08:40 PM
Let me know when you all are finished watching up, THIS is an episode.

MPF
04-11-2016, 08:47 PM
Let me know when you all are finished watching up, THIS is an episode.

Waiting for Comcast to put it up. I see it normally goes up about 2amevery night; so in about 2 hours from now I'll check and see. Good thing I'm a night owl.

XDoomsayerX
04-11-2016, 09:23 PM
Dat episode.

Hot damn...

:wow:

:eek:

MPF
04-11-2016, 11:32 PM
Just saw it.


FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

MetalIsArt
04-11-2016, 11:55 PM
TELL ME... IS KIM GOING DOWN???!!!

I'm still at ep 6 :eek:

TonyD
04-12-2016, 12:10 AM
Still haven't seen more than 2 minutes of either show, I missed the boat so I've got the whole series in the bag for a rainy day.

Maideneer
04-12-2016, 06:03 AM
TELL ME... IS KIM GOING DOWN???!!!

I'm still at ep 6 :eek:

Someone is going "down" I can tell you that.

MetalIsArt
04-12-2016, 06:23 AM
Someone is going "down" I can tell you that.

Ah ok... :horns:

Maideneer
04-12-2016, 06:33 AM
Still haven't seen more than 2 minutes of either show, I missed the boat so I've got the whole series in the bag for a rainy day.

I suggest you take 4 days and binge watch everything. It will change your life and if you have an addictive personality you'll start searching for the thousands of nuances, easter eggs, inter-episode connections, right down to the smallest detail.

This can consume you if you're not careful. Hell it's consumed me, I'm on the BB/BCS wiki page every day looking for trivia notes.

Sanitarium78
04-14-2016, 06:09 AM
TELL ME... IS KIM GOING DOWN???!!!

I'm still at ep 6 :eek:

Na, she probably won't go down until next season.

Very good episode this week. I'm glad Jimmy fucked over Chuck like that since Chuck is such an asshole. Not that Jimmy doesn't have his faults but at least he's a likable guy once you get past all the shady stuff. That was a great scene with Kim telling Chuck off. They've really done a great job of building up her character and making her very likeable this season. Which will make it all the more sad when she inevitably goes to prison or gets killed because she gets caught up in some shit that is Jimmy's fault.

I don't know how it's possible for Mike to be as badass as he is, but he gets shit done and is not to be fucked with.

Maideneer
04-14-2016, 06:49 AM
Na, she probably won't go down until next season.

LOTS of theories going around that she lives parallel to the happenings of BB, like behind Jimmy's strip mall operation kinda thing.

Another theory is she mentioned she used to live in small town Nebraska so people are thinking she moves there for whatever reason during BB, and as Gene is toiling away at Cinnabon he giver her a ring since he's in Omaha anyway.

I read a comment that someone would like to see the show end where as soon as Saul is done helping out Walt/Jesse during some random BB episode, he goes out back and has lunch with Kim.

Sanitarium78
04-14-2016, 11:58 AM
LOTS of theories going around that she lives parallel to the happenings of BB, like behind Jimmy's strip mall operation kinda thing.

Another theory is she mentioned she used to live in small town Nebraska so people are thinking she moves there for whatever reason during BB, and as Gene is toiling away at Cinnabon he giver her a ring since he's in Omaha anyway.

I read a comment that someone would like to see the show end where as soon as Saul is done helping out Walt/Jesse during some random BB episode, he goes out back and has lunch with Kim.

Nice to see that people think something positive will happen with Kim and she'll be around until the end. I hope it's true since i've really grown to like her a lot this season. But I can't shake the feeling that something Jimmy does is gonna screw her in the end. Without her and Chuck around, Jimmy will give no fucks anymore and that's how Saul Goodman is born.

Maideneer
04-18-2016, 11:29 AM
Everyone ready for tonight?!

SignoftheHammer
04-18-2016, 01:17 PM
Everyone ready for tonight?!

I'm not sure if I am. Better Call Saul is giving me the same anxiety that Breaking Bad gave me. The ending of the previous episode was a true Holy Fucking Shit moment.

MPF
04-18-2016, 01:52 PM
Going to have to catch this later tonight when it goes On Demand. I can't fucking wait! It's going to be a looong wait till season 3.

SignoftheHammer
04-18-2016, 08:10 PM
Chuck...that fucking motherfucker.

anomynous
04-18-2016, 08:14 PM
#FringsBack

XDoomsayerX
04-18-2016, 09:17 PM
Chuck...that fucking motherfucker.

My thoughts exactly. Dude is sick in how much he wants to take down his brother.

Great episode and finale.

Well GoT will hold me over and I still have Daredevil to finish. :lol:

MPF
04-18-2016, 10:59 PM
What a fucking ending...

It's going to be a long fucking wait till season 3. FUCK!

Maideneer
04-19-2016, 05:41 AM
Chuck is a complete slime ball but the fact we feel this way goes to show what an awesome actor Michael McKean is. Absolute douche and it's gonna be a great moment when he finally goes away. That beginning and that end really solidify what an awful human being he is...kudos to Gilligan for managing to show that.

DON'T

Coma323
04-19-2016, 11:45 AM
Yeah being able to hate a character is definitely great acting. I had a sneaky feeling Chuck was up to something as a ploy to get Jimmy to confess.

I love this show. Like others have stated, this is going to be a long ass wait.

Natrlhi
04-20-2016, 01:51 PM
Chuck...that fucking motherfucker.
Exactly this.

#FringsBack
Yeah, I heard about that anagram. Kinda wish I hadn't, but whatcha gonna do. At least it's a helluva good rumor (slash all-but-confirmed spoiler).

SignoftheHammer
04-20-2016, 03:36 PM
I've been thinking, can Chuck actually use the recording against Jimmy as evidence? My legal knowledge is limited. I'm thinking he might use it as blackmail.

Maideneer
04-21-2016, 05:32 AM
As a lawyer, Chuck should probably know that he can't use it in court. Taping someone without their knowledge is inadmissible (unless there's something I don't know about).

Also, Jimmy could just say that he was trying to make Chuck feel better and none of it is true. Me thinks the writers are going to have do some heavy legal research going into Season 3.

Sanitarium78
04-21-2016, 10:35 AM
As a lawyer, Chuck should probably know that he can't use it in court. Taping someone without their knowledge is inadmissible (unless there's something I don't know about).

Also, Jimmy could just say that he was trying to make Chuck feel better and none of it is true. Me thinks the writers are going to have do some heavy legal research going into Season 3.

I don't think they'll have to go into any heavy research before season three starts because I think they already know where they're going with this and they wouldn't have gone the tape recorder route if they didn't. That's how much I trust Vince Gilligan and company.

They've done such a great job with Chuck and Jimmy. Both are slimeballs but Chuck is an unlikable asshole and very selfish. Jimmy on the other hand is a very likeable and seems to be genuinely good human being for the most part when you get past the con man stuff. When it's someone he cares about like Chuck or Kim, he will do whatever he can to please them even it is done through questionable means. Chuck is driven by selfishness and his own needs all the way. Jimmy comes across as someone who wants to do the right thing most of the time but gets caught up in doing his cons and it doesn't always work out the way he intends it to because of that.

Gonna be a long wait for next season. Hopefully some of the other TV shows I watch until then will be at least half as good as this show is. Somehow I have my doubts.

Maideneer
04-21-2016, 10:57 AM
I don't think they'll have to go into any heavy research before season three starts because I think they already know where they're going with this and they wouldn't have gone the tape recorder route if they didn't. That's how much I trust Vince Gilligan and company.

They've done such a great job with Chuck and Jimmy. Both are slimeballs but Chuck is an unlikable asshole and very selfish. Jimmy on the other hand is a very likeable and seems to be genuinely good human being for the most part when you get past the con man stuff. When it's someone he cares about like Chuck or Kim, he will do whatever he can to please them even it is done through questionable means. Chuck is driven by selfishness and his own needs all the way. Jimmy comes across as someone who wants to do the right thing most of the time but gets caught up in doing his cons and it doesn't always work out the way he intends it to because of that.

Gonna be a long wait for next season. Hopefully some of the other TV shows I watch until then will be at least half as good as this show is. Somehow I have my doubts.

Check out the insider podcasts if you get a chance they are great. They effectively say they have had a lot of help from lawyers, especially in the Season 1 stuff with the RICO case and then also just lately with Chuck rattling off all the new laws to try and keep Mesa Verde.

Natrlhi
04-21-2016, 11:42 AM
I've been thinking, can Chuck actually use the recording against Jimmy as evidence? My legal knowledge is limited. I'm thinking he might use it as blackmail.
Blackmail? Nope. Not Chuck's style. For one thing, it's illegal. Chuck would never do that. He's clearly hell bent on ruining Jimmy's professional career and would do so by any means necessary, but not if it meant breaking the law. The law is a like a sacred thing to him, which is exactly why he takes exception to Jimmy being licensed to practice it.

As a lawyer, Chuck should probably know that he can't use it in court. Taping someone without their knowledge is inadmissible (unless there's something I don't know about).
Not so sure about that. How, then, would practices such as wiretapping or putting a microphone on a witness and getting them to extract a confession from a suspect be legal?

MPF
04-21-2016, 11:45 AM
The whole recording issue is not a federal issue, it's a state issue. In some states it's perfectly legal in others you can't do it under any circumstance.

Not sure how it is in Arizona, but if it's legal there, Chuck could use it. If it's not legal, maybe this was a test for something bigger that will happen. Maybe the thing that will actually bring out Saul Goodman?

Maideneer
04-21-2016, 11:50 AM
The whole recording issue is not a federal issue, it's a state issue. In some states it's perfectly legal in others you can't do it under any circumstance.

Not sure how it is in Arizona, but if it's legal there, Chuck could use it. If it's not legal, maybe this was a test for something bigger that will happen. Maybe the thing that will actually bring out Saul Goodman?

*New Mexico

Maideneer
04-21-2016, 11:52 AM
Not so sure about that. How, then, would practices such as wiretapping or putting a microphone on a witness and getting them to extract a confession from a suspect be legal?

No idea. Maybe it's different if law enforcement conducts it as opposed to a civilian? Law is not my strong area here, just guessing.

MPF
04-21-2016, 01:50 PM
*New Mexico

Err, sorry. Rought day in Minnesota.

XDoomsayerX
04-21-2016, 03:32 PM
I don't think they'll have to go into any heavy research before season three starts because I think they already know where they're going with this and they wouldn't have gone the tape recorder route if they didn't. That's how much I trust Vince Gilligan and company.

They've done such a great job with Chuck and Jimmy. Both are slimeballs but Chuck is an unlikable asshole and very selfish. Jimmy on the other hand is a very likeable and seems to be genuinely good human being for the most part when you get past the con man stuff. When it's someone he cares about like Chuck or Kim, he will do whatever he can to please them even it is done through questionable means. Chuck is driven by selfishness and his own needs all the way. Jimmy comes across as someone who wants to do the right thing most of the time but gets caught up in doing his cons and it doesn't always work out the way he intends it to because of that.

Gonna be a long wait for next season. Hopefully some of the other TV shows I watch until then will be at least half as good as this show is. Somehow I have my doubts.

Yup.

What makes Jimmy so relatable is that he is just a dude who wants to take shortcuts help those he cares about out and where he wants to be to better himself (not in a greedy manner). His actions tend to be in good intentions. The show has done a great job of displaying this which leads to him being liked by a lot of his friends, acquaintances, and customers. I mean look at what his mail room buddy said to Chuck for him when Chuck was in the hospital.

Chuck is just a selfish prick who wants to be THE GUY. As in do everything by the books, follow and obey the law, I am a lawyer I know all. He dislikes Jimmy for being in law since he took a quicker, "questionable" path. He is envious because people like Jimmy's personality and mindset and do not respect his superiority mannerisms. I mean his "condition" to me is also a form of insanity to get pity from people. Not sure if it was fully fleshed out but the doc in finale straight up said his "coma" was self induced. Him wanting to take down Jimmy is fucking sick and not telling him their mom's last words was lots of jealousy.

Anyways yeah Better Call Saul is a homerun and I thought it was just gonna be a solid spinoff.

Gilligan is on another level and we havent even discussed that awesome camera shot when Chuck was on the stretcher or how great Mike's story has been! :tongue: