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Sanitarium78
07-17-2012, 06:10 PM
ALICE COOPER:

The Black Widow
Brutal Planet
I'm Eighteen
No More Mr. Nice Guy
Hey Stoopid
short Orianthi guitar solo
Billion Dollar Babies
Feed My Frankenstein
Poison
Wicked Young Man
I Love The Dead
School's Out

IRON MAIDEN:

Moonchild
Can I Play With Madness
The Prisoner
2 Minutes To Midnight
Afraid To Shoot Strangers
The Trooper
The Number Of The Beast
Phantom Of The Opera
Run To The Hills
Wasted Years
Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
The Clairvoyant
Fear Of The Dark
Iron Maiden

Aces High
The Evil That Men Do
Running Free

Another fantastic show from both bands, much better than the show I saw in Toronto on friday. Being in the pit had a lot to do with that but both bands just sounded a lot better. Especially Bruce, who's voice was better tonight than it was at the other show. He sounded a bit muffeled at times in Toronto but last night his vocals were clear as anything throughout the show. The same for the rest of the band, well except Jannick, I don't believe they even turn his guitar on. You see him strummig something on it but you don't hear what he's playing at all.

I had never been in the pit for anything before at this venue but it's not too big. Maybe they're giving up five rows of regular seats for it and that's about it. There was room in it the whole night though and i'm guessing about 100 people or so were in it if that. Cooper did his usual thing which is ten times better than most bands best show. With this show, I have now seen Cooper four times in the span of a year and that's the most i've ever seen a band in that span of time. I saw him solo twice last year and twice now with Maiden. Orianthi threw out a bunch of guitar picks at the end and I got one. That's when I realized that in 20 years of going to shows i've never got anythig somebody has tossed into the audience before. Usually there's a mob of people trying to get the stuff and that's why I never bother with it. But a pick landed right by my feet so I grabbed it. If it wasn't Orianthi's pick I really wouldn't have given a shit about getting it though.

After Cooper, my friend and I decided to move to the back rail of the pit and watch from there. Even at the back of the pit we were only about 20 feet or so from the stage with a fantastic view. We were looking at center stage right in front of us but I made it a point to move a few steps to my left so I could see Dave and Adrian play better. The place was packed and the crowd was into everything, screaming and singing along to all the songs very loudly. Bruce even comented a few times on how loud we were. When Bruce was talking before ATSS, he mentioned that the stage wasn't big enough to fit their whole set and that they should burn the place down and build a bigger one so next time they can fit everything on it:lol: Unfortunately we didn't get the Eddie that comes up during 7th Son, which was too bad because it makes for a great visual and really adds to the atmosphere of the song. The heat from the fire they had was the hottest thing i've ever felt at a show. Being that close it felt like the heat was coming right up frm underneath you. Damn that was hot:rocker:

Nicko's drum kit is so big that even from as close as I was you couldn't even see him behind it. Steve and Bruce did their usual thing and it just amazes me the energy these two still have on stage. Especially Bruce, no other frontman in music that is, was or ever will be can compare to him on that stage. When it comes to frontmen there's Bruce Dickinson and then there's a huge drop off before you get to whoever you want to rank behind him. Jannick did whatever the hell it is that he does. I'm still not sure what his purpose is since Adrian came back? The big highlight for me was watching Dave and Adrian play together from that close, truly amazing to see. Easily the best guitar duo ever and you can tell by the little interactions they have with each other during the show how much they enjoy playing together.

The last time Maiden played here was on the 2005 Ozzfest and the last time they came here on their own tour was Brave New World. Because of the great turnout and crowd reaction I hope the band's management doesn't forget about us when they book future Maiden tours. The people from Buffalo, Rochester and other surrounding places did the area proud last night and hopefully it will lead to Maiden coming here more often.

IrritatedTrout
07-17-2012, 06:13 PM
Sounds cool, wish my own Maiden tour wasn't over.

Sanitarium78
07-17-2012, 07:18 PM
I forgot to mention that the venue didn't do the paperless ticket thing for this show. My tcikets were at willcall and even though they were for the pit, they were actually real tickets:rocker:

dwils65
07-17-2012, 07:26 PM
Sounds like you don't like Jannick. Glad you said it, I can't stand him.

Phil709
07-17-2012, 08:42 PM
Alice Cooper killed it! Black Widow, I'm Eighteen, Poison, Billion Dollar Babies, Wicked Young Man, and I Love The Dead. Man, what a show!

Can't say much about the band that closed for him though. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was alright I guess (mainly because there was a fireworks show happening at the amusement park). The Trooper was good too.

PowerMaiden
07-17-2012, 08:56 PM
Alice Cooper killed it! Black Widow, I'm Eighteen, Poison, Billion Dollar Babies, Wicked Young Man, and I Love The Dead. Man, what a show!

Can't say much about the band that closed for him though. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son was alright I guess (mainly because there was a fireworks show happening at the amusement park). The Trooper was good too.

you are an idiot


and fuck you








great review Sanitarium78


Cheers !
Power:666:Maiden

The Colonel
07-17-2012, 09:05 PM
All the posts about this tour are getting me so pumped for the show in 3 weeks! I'm just mega-bummed that we're not getting Alice Cooper, especially since he lives here!

christopher
07-17-2012, 09:26 PM
All the posts about this tour are getting me so pumped for the show in 3 weeks! I'm just mega-bummed that we're not getting Alice Cooper, especially since he lives here!

Alice Cooper is playing some headlining shows out here at the end of November and beginning on December. Maybe he will make his way out to AZ during that time.

HackedUpForBBQ
07-17-2012, 09:31 PM
An awesome show without a doubt, one of the best I've seen. Definitely the best overall setlist out of any Maiden show I've seen as well. Being able to hear Afraid to Shoot Strangers live alone was worth at least 10x the ticket price, and was dually orgasmic

snowdog2112
07-17-2012, 09:39 PM
Was a good show from both bands. Although Cooper had better sound for his set.When Maiden came out you seemed like you just heard the bass thumping and the kick drum.Took them awhile to get the mix right.

Agree about Gers Im sorry but he really looks like a douchebag up there. His antics just dont go with the songs. I saw Steve Harris look once or twice at him and you could see in his face the disapproval. Best sight of the night when Smith,Murrey and Harris would line up and jam toghther on the stage it was cool to see

And Darien does have a small stage I used to usher out there and we would go up on it in the Spring time and I couldnt believe how small it was.

Glad they came hopefully we get them again

The Colonel
07-18-2012, 02:05 AM
Alice Cooper is playing some headlining shows out here at the end of November and beginning on December. Maybe he will make his way out to AZ during that time.

He'll do his big Christmas show here just like every year. I never get to go though.

Maidenmagic
07-18-2012, 05:56 AM
Janick Gers is a good songwriter but yes, he's very silly live.

ravenheart
07-18-2012, 06:07 AM
Janick Gers is a good songwriter but yes, he's very silly live.

I think he's broadly a waste of space live. Anyone who can spend that long in an Iron Maiden show not actually playing his guitar doesn't need to be there.

Sanitarium78
07-18-2012, 06:12 AM
Sounds like you don't like Jannick. Glad you said it, I can't stand him.

The only reason i've heard anyone give as to why he's still in the band is because he's friends with Bruce and that's how he got the job originally. The band, except for when Bruce goofs around with him a bit, barely interact with Jannick during the show. I think Steve knows deep down they don't need him but after being with them for 22 years now he doesn't have the heart to let him go.

All the posts about this tour are getting me so pumped for the show in 3 weeks! I'm just mega-bummed that we're not getting Alice Cooper, especially since he lives here!

The reason Alice is dropping off the tour is because he has shows booked in Europe starting at the end of the month and going into august. Otherwise, i'm sure he would've been on it for the duration of the tour. I can't imagine the horror of having to wait through Coheed & Cambria, that singer's voice is so annoying. On the plus side Maiden will be a billion times better then they already are after that.


Was a good show from both bands. Although Cooper had better sound for his set.When Maiden came out you seemed like you just heard the bass thumping and the kick drum.Took them awhile to get the mix right.


Where were you sitting? From the pit everything sounded great but from that close we were probably hearing the sound more from the stage amps than the ones the venue has. I've read that Maiden sometimes doesn't do soundchecks which I think is a big mistake. Especially since this tour they have a new person at the soundboard for the first time since 1979. I've read a number of reviews that complain of sound issues. Doing a regular soundcheck and allowing the new soundboard person to figure out the right mix for each venue would help greatly with that.

PowerMaiden
07-18-2012, 07:29 AM
I agree on pretty much eveything that's been said about Janick in this thread. I never waste anytime watching him in concert. And if by mistake I do, I'm so embarrassed for him that I quickly go back on one of the boys. What the fuck is he doing up there ?


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

ravenheart
07-18-2012, 07:42 AM
I ALWAYS stand/sit Dave/Adrian's side of the stage and pay no attention to Janick at all.

Sanitarium78
07-18-2012, 08:21 AM
Glad to see more people who feel the same about Jannick as I do. Nobody ever mentions him in their reviews so I thought I was missing something as to what he brings to the band. But if nobody pays attention to him then it makes sense why he's never talked about. If Powermaiden can't even find a reason as to what Jannick is doing on stage then is obvious he doesn't need to be there.

IrritatedTrout
07-18-2012, 09:38 AM
I like Janick. If you'd go to his side, it's pretty clear he is actually playing. On some of the older songs it does seem that he's not in certain parts but maybe that's because those songs don't really need 3 guitars? I will say he puts more into "his" stuff, meaning No Prayer stuff and on. People wonder why he's still in the band? Look at the writing credits on the recent albums. He wrote the best 2 songs on the last 2 records (The Talisman and The Legacy) and the 2nd best song on Dance of Death (the title track). He's a good songwriter, and a good entertainer and I think he works well with the rest of the band.

snowdog2112
07-18-2012, 09:41 AM
I was in Sec 203 row 4 good seats and a bonus 7 seats in the row in front of us no one showed up had a great view of everything for once

marker
07-18-2012, 10:42 AM
Janick Gers is a good songwriter but yes, he's very silly live.

I am work so I can't look at the albums, but what did Janick ever write that is that significant?
I don't like them with 3 guitarists either, but it's not his fault Adrian quit for awhile and then decided to come back. I guess they would feel bad if they let him go, and there's enough money to go around. I don't like the way he prances around on stage, that's for sure.

PlaysWithKnives
07-18-2012, 11:04 AM
What a fantastic show. I was in the pit. Mind blowing to see a show that huge that close up. They sounded great. A little muddy for the first couple songs, but it didnt last long. These guys with their musicianship and energy even in their 50s, put everyone else to shame (minus Jannick). Bruces voice was perfect. Even better than a couple nights before in Toronto. Hes just a madman running around the stage. Loved seeing each of them take turns doing solos in the front of the stage. The Prisoner, Moonchild, ATSS, SSOASS, The Clairvoyant, Aces High FOTD and Wasted Years were the highlights for me. Plus the animatronic Eddies, huge backdrops and flames. Bruce complimented the crowd for their loudness. Buffalo concert crowds could be hit and miss so that's great. Im sure they'll be back. What a show

As for Alice, he does what he always does. Great show by him as always. Nice compliment to Maiden. That Orianthi is smokin. Nice getting an eye full of her. Dont let that fool you though. She's a pretty good guitar player :D

I took some pretty good pics. Maybe I'll post some. I dont like being annoying camera guy at concerts, because I hate it when someone does it too much, but I couldn't help but take a few being so close to the action.

PlaysWithKnives
07-18-2012, 11:14 AM
Im with you all on the Jannick thing too. I only looked his way a few times amd that was mainly because one of the others was there. Im sure hes a great guy and he contributes to writing amd such, but what in the fuck is he doing? His calisthenics and version of the riverdancer are pretty ridiculous. Its Iron Maiden not pretty boy floyd.

PlaysWithKnives
07-18-2012, 11:19 AM
And Darien does have a small stage I used to usher out there and we would go up on it in the Spring time and I couldnt believe how small it was.

I never actually realized it was that small until Bruce mentioned it. Just thought it was standard size.

The_jman
07-18-2012, 02:04 PM
You can clearly hear Janick's guitar on the dvd, so unless they edit it back in, he does play.

Sanitarium78
07-18-2012, 03:42 PM
I like Janick. If you'd go to his side, it's pretty clear he is actually playing. On some of the older songs it does seem that he's not in certain parts but maybe that's because those songs don't really need 3 guitars? I will say he puts more into "his" stuff, meaning No Prayer stuff and on. People wonder why he's still in the band? Look at the writing credits on the recent albums. He wrote the best 2 songs on the last 2 records (The Talisman and The Legacy) and the 2nd best song on Dance of Death (the title track). He's a good songwriter, and a good entertainer and I think he works well with the rest of the band.

Yes, he does have a good amonut of writing credits since FOTD but how much does he really contribute to the songs he's credited for? It's not like he's writen anything for Maiden on his own. Harris, Dickinson or Smith's names are always next to his in the writing credits. Call me crazy, but with as talented as those three are at songwriting, i'm always gonna go with one of them writing the bulk of the song, with Gers throwing in a few ideas and getting credit for it.

If I felt they weren't able to get by without his songwriting contributions then I would give him more credit. But Bruce, Adrian and Steve would still be coming up with great material if Gers wasn't around. His contributions both live and in the writing aren't that significant from what i've seen.

Fe Maiden
07-18-2012, 05:58 PM
Yeah, about Janick......Adrian and Dave play the guitar while it appears in a live show Janick plays with his guitar throwing it in the air and jumping around like a clown........I also hate it when Janick plays solos that were previously handled by Adrian.......There I said it. If I said it on the Maiden board I'd be getting a royal flaming. I don't dislike him but I think they could do just fine without him.

IrritatedTrout
07-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Yes, he does have a good amonut of writing credits since FOTD but how much does he really contribute to the songs he's credited for? It's not like he's writen anything for Maiden on his own. Harris, Dickinson or Smith's names are always next to his in the writing credits. Call me crazy, but with as talented as those three are at songwriting, i'm always gonna go with one of them writing the bulk of the song, with Gers throwing in a few ideas and getting credit for it.

Yes, but Harris name is on just about every song since the reunion (New Frontier is the one and only exception). So it's a stretch to say he isn't contributing a significant amount when we really have no idea how significant the Harris/Other contributions are to the songs either.

marker
07-18-2012, 07:00 PM
I looked at the albums, Janick co-wrote more songs than I thought, particulary on FOD and BNW. I give him some credit there even though we don't know how much he really contributes. He also co-wrote most of the songs on Bruce's first solo album. Not one of Bruce's better albums, but just wanted to throw that in.

dwils65
07-19-2012, 05:37 AM
I don't care what Jannicks writing credits are. I don't care if he is the greatest writer in the history of metal. He acts like a total jackass on stage, twirling his guitar like he is trying out for Cinderella. Those antics are fine in certain types of bands ie Cinderella, but Maiden is not that type of band. And the prancing... dear god!!! What I find funny is that at times you have Murray, Smith and Harris all stage front lined up doing there thing, and then there is Jannick way off to the side like they wont let him come up with them.

ravenheart
07-19-2012, 07:30 AM
I don't care what Jannicks writing credits are. I don't care if he is the greatest writer in the history of metal. He acts like a total jackass on stage, twirling his guitar like he is trying out for Cinderella. Those antics are fine in certain types of bands ie Cinderella, but Maiden is not that type of band. And the prancing... dear god!!! What I find funny is that at times you have Murray, Smith and Harris all stage front lined up doing there thing, and then there is Jannick way off to the side like they wont let him come up with them.

The point, if is has that much time to spare on stage to be swinging his guitar around instead of playing it, then the band don't need him.

Travis The Dragon
07-19-2012, 02:24 PM
The same for the rest of the band, well except Jannick, I don't believe they even turn his guitar on. You see him strummig something on it but you don't hear what he's playing at all.
I bet you hear him just fine when he's butchering a classic solo.

Sanitarium78
07-19-2012, 05:43 PM
I bet you hear him just fine when he's butchering a classic solo.

I didn't notice that at this show. The only time I heard Jannick's guitar was during ATSS and FOTD. Other than that Dave and Adrian, to nobody's surprise i'm sure, owned the show.