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adamclark52
02-18-2012, 04:51 PM
Black Sabbath
Support: Pantera, Deftones
Venue: the Skydome in Toronto, Ontario

Found this old setlist from Black Sabbaths first reunion tour with Ozzy thirteen years ago. I'm only posting it for one reason, which I'll get to later.

Got to the show just as the Deftones were starting up. Skydome is a terrible place for a concert, one of the biggest reasons being the acoustics. So when you have a band like the Deftones, who use a lot of reverb and chorus, it gets even worse. I was a big fan of theirs at this time but they sounded like shit. The crowd was NOT into them either. There were a lot of '70's drunken rockheads at this show who were already drunk off their asses (at 7pm) and if they even acknowleged the Deftones it was comments like "the fuck is this shit rap band doing open'n for Sabbath"? This was a full year before White Pony came out but they did open their set with the first half of Pink Maggit and closed with the second half. I thought it was a wicked song and hoped they recorded some day, which they did. I can't remember what else they played.

Now, the reason I'm posting this. When you see most bands of a larger calibur play the lights usually dim and some ominus music plays over the P.A. that gets you pumped for whoevers playing. Pantera just walked on stage and Phil, who was drunk out of his mind, says into the microphone "we're Pantera, you're all a bunch of fucking pussies" and they exploded into Domination. It was the coolest opening to a concert I've seen in my life. They were awesome, I only wished they'd played something from the Great Southern Trendkill. It was the only time I ever got to see them.

Pantera
1. Domination/Hollow
2. A New Level
3. Walk
4. Becoming/Throes of Rejection
5. Use My Third Arm
6. Primal Concrete Sledge
7. Fucking Hostile
8. This Love
9. Cowboys From Hell

The crowd was more into Pantera than the Deftones but it was a classic rock crowd so they wanted Sabbath, specifically Ozzy. After Pantera was done I saw so many 40-50 year old dudes literally getting carried out by they were buddies because they had drunken themselves out cold. It was hilarious, this concert cost $130 and we weren't even in a very good section. Such a waste of money. This was the first time Black Sabbath got back together with all four original members. Before the Osbournes and before his idiot kids got famous, this show actually meant something. They were awesome, but nothing ever topped Pantera. I'm pretty sure that it was the same set they played at their first reunion show in 1997 and wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming tour isn't exactly the same.

Black Sabbath
1. War Pigs
2. N.I.B.
3. Fairies Wear Boots
4. After Forever
5. Electric Funeral
6. Sweet Leaf
7. Into the Void
8. Snowblind
9. Dirty Women
10. Black Sabbath
11. Iron Man
12. Children of the Grave
Encore:
13. Paranoid

This was far from the best concert I ever went to but it is definately one that I remember the most, for all the drunks and for Phil's awesome line.

Dextrimental
02-18-2012, 05:19 PM
That's a seriously awesome evening of music if you ask me, thanks for posting!

Considering PanterA are my favorite band, them supporting Black Sabbath is an absolute dream, unfortunately now it forever is a dream. That opening sounds awesome, everyone whom I've heard talk about PanterA says the energy is forever unrivalled, they were a wrecking ball live.

hellawaits77ny
02-18-2012, 05:22 PM
Awesome review! Thanks for sharing. Had to LOL at Phil's quote.

Sanitarium78
02-18-2012, 06:32 PM
Thanks for posting this. I went to this show to and even though my seats sucked it was still great. As for all the 50 year old drunk people getting carried off, i'm not sure what you're talking about there. I didn't see anything like that in my area. Originally there was a date for Buffalo announced for this tour but for some reason it got cancelled before tickets went on sale and that's why we (my dad, older brother and myself) decided to see it up in Toronto. Perhaps if we had got tickets sooner we wouldn't have had bad ones up in the top section but we didn't bother right away since we thought it was coming here.

I can't remember if we arrived late to the show but I don't recall the Deftones playing. In fact all these years I recall the lineup only being Pantera and Sabbath so we must've got there late. No big loss since I don't care about the Deftones anyways.

I really liked Pantera's performance but you're nuts if you think they were better than Sabbath. The epicness of seeing the original Sabbath on their first reunion tour ever trumps anything Pantera did in my book. I loved ever second of Sabbath's show, except for opening with War Pigs. I've see Ozzy open his show with it once and it's just a lame opener that does nothing for me. Opening songs need to be fast paced and get me pumped right away and as great as War Pigs is, the song just doesn't do that for me.

Hopefully everything will work out with the current Sabbath reunion and we'll get to see them again. If not, i'm greatful that I had the chance to see this show. This show also completed the cycle for me because after this I had seen Sabbath with Dio (1992), Martin (1995) and with Ozzy. Those are the three most important singers the band has had and it was great to have seen them with each one.

adamclark52
02-18-2012, 06:50 PM
Thanks for posting this. I went to this show to and even though my seats sucked it was still great. As for all the 50 year old drunk people getting carried off, i'm not sure what you're talking about there. I didn't see anything like that in my area. Originally there was a date for Buffalo announced for this tour but for some reason it got cancelled before tickets went on sale and that's why we (my dad, older brother and myself) decided to see it up in Toronto. Perhaps if we had got tickets sooner we wouldn't have had bad ones up in the top section but we didn't bother right away since we thought it was coming here.

I can't remember if we arrived late to the show but I don't recall the Deftones playing. In fact all these years I recall the lineup only being Pantera and Sabbath so we must've got there late. No big loss since I don't care about the Deftones anyways.

I really liked Pantera's performance but you're nuts if you think they were better than Sabbath. The epicness of seeing the original Sabbath on their first reunion tour ever trumps anything Pantera did in my book. I loved ever second of Sabbath's show, except for opening with War Pigs. I've see Ozzy open his show with it once and it's just a lame opener that does nothing for me. Opening songs need to be fast paced and get me pumped right away and as great as War Pigs is, the song just doesn't do that for me.

Hopefully everything will work out with the current Sabbath reunion and we'll get to see them again. If not, i'm greatful that I had the chance to see this show. This show also completed the cycle for me because after this I had seen Sabbath with Dio (1992), Martin (1995) and with Ozzy. Those are the three most important singers the band has had and it was great to have seen them with each one.

Oh man, I always remember this one guy who was completely tanked from the second we got there. He was yelling and screaming during Deftones, during the changeover between Deftones and Pantera he was just going nuts yelling "Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy"...for a half hour (beer in hand the whole time). During Pantera he was just going crazy, rocking hard for the first half of their set. Then the last time I saw him was about fifteen minutes before Sabbath went on, bodysurfing on his back...head leaning back...out cold as three of his friends were carrying him out of the area. He never came back. It was so funny.

Geezer Butler really impressed me more than anything at this show. He was just awesome on bass, and to play with his FINGERS like that?!?! It wasn't even like how Harris from Iron Maiden plays, he sort of strummed all four of his fingers in unison like it was one big finger and so fast for the whole set.

300%_Density
02-18-2012, 08:05 PM
That would be ungodly but booking Deftones w/ either of those bands is not smart. No chance either audience would really get the Deftones. My 1 Pantera gripe from this time was putting Domination & Hollow together. Domination is great on its own. I never saw Pantera but it always bothered me when they did that.

masterguy49
02-18-2012, 08:42 PM
I would have literally killed to see this show. I love Deftones and Sabbath and hearing Deftones open with the 1st half of pink maggit and close with the 2nd half is insane. You know the rest of their set?

maxpower
02-18-2012, 09:57 PM
I went to this tour but incubus openned here instead of deftones. I still had a great time.

MetalIsArt
02-19-2012, 01:16 AM
Anyone who ever saw Pantera gets my respect.

AnthG
02-19-2012, 07:47 AM
What was the stage/theatre setup for this show? I know that when Skydome hosted concerts they had a number of configurations depending on who was playing. Just asking because as big as Sabbath are/were, drawing 50,000 people to the Dome is a hefty task for any band not named U2.

Also agree about the Pantera set. Not only is there nothing off of Great southern trendkill, but best songs from Far Beyond Driven aren't there.

adamclark52
02-19-2012, 08:20 AM
I would have literally killed to see this show. I love Deftones and Sabbath and hearing Deftones open with the 1st half of pink maggit and close with the 2nd half is insane. You know the rest of their set?

I think they played 7 Words and Root off the first album, and My Own Summer (Shove it) and Be Quite and Drive (Far Away) off the second, and a few more. the only albums they had at the time were Adrenaline and Around the Fur.

adamclark52
02-19-2012, 09:14 AM
What was the stage/theatre setup for this show? I know that when Skydome hosted concerts they had a number of configurations depending on who was playing. Just asking because as big as Sabbath are/were, drawing 50,000 people to the Dome is a hefty task for any band not named U2.

Also agree about the Pantera set. Not only is there nothing off of Great southern trendkill, but best songs from Far Beyond Driven aren't there.

That's hard for me to remember, it seemed packed but anything I can find on the internet today says there were only 20,000 people there. That seems like a huge waste to rent to Skydome to only fill it to 1/3 capacity. But the Air Canada Center had just opened a few weeks earlier so maybe it wasn't concert ready yet. You can bet that the up coming tour will be at the ACC.

gilpdawg
02-20-2012, 01:43 AM
What was the stage/theatre setup for this show? I know that when Skydome hosted concerts they had a number of configurations depending on who was playing. Just asking because as big as Sabbath are/were, drawing 50,000 people to the Dome is a hefty task for any band not named U2.

Also agree about the Pantera set. Not only is there nothing off of Great southern trendkill, but best songs from Far Beyond Driven aren't there.
Yeah, but it was awesome that we got the rarely played Use My Third Arm on that run. If this site had been around during Pantera's history, people would have been bitching constantly about the sets. I saw Pantera 9 times and the set was 90% the same every time.

snowdog2112
02-20-2012, 04:52 AM
[Sanitarium78] Originally there was a date for Buffalo announced for this tour but for some reason it got cancelled before tickets went on sale

Tickets went on sale for that show. I had a pair, concert was cancelled because the show was not sold out a few hundred tixs were left and Sharon pulled the plug on it. Thats what I heard

velvetgrass
06-09-2012, 08:54 AM
BUMP.

For anyone wondering about what Deftones played, I found a setlist from 3 days before this show with the same lineup (Deftones, Pantera, & Black Sabbath), so it was probably similar to this one:

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/deftones/1999/nassau-veterans-memorial-coliseum-uniondale-ny-bd60d4a.html

morbidaj
06-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Not sure the tickets cost that much.. I was fresh out of college and had no job.. but I was there. I think we had fairly decent floor seats as well. I dont recall much about Pantera beyond Phil saluting the crowd with a bottle of JD that he was chugging on throughout the set.

Another friend of mine decided to pass on seeing this show and attend The Cardigans show that were playing at RPM (or warehouse.. or whatever its called now).

Still good times.