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EvilCheeseWedge
12-04-2011, 11:40 AM
Five years ago today (http://metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=6011) my band at the time released a song called "Candlelight Requiem." Today I've got a new recording of this song, which was mostly done in California this summer. It even features an excellent guitar solo from Maiden33, who was awesome enough to lend his considerable axe talents to this project. The majority of this song was recorded very quickly in two days, which included writing some new music and lyrics, so it's definitely not perfect, nor is this the definitive version of the song. But to give a nod to the anniversary of the original version, here it is.

Would definitely love to know what you guys think!

Candlelight (http://soundcloud.com/aetherandashes/candlelight-preview)

ravenheart
12-04-2011, 01:07 PM
I don't comment informally on stuff like this very often, but that's great. Love the vocals in particular. Not sure about the clipped cymbals in the soft parts at the beginning, and I think the entrance of the electric guitars needs more impact, if you see what I mean, but otherwise it's awesome.

Maiden33
12-04-2011, 05:08 PM
This turned out really well, I have to say I really like it - which is probably a good thing, haha. I have to admit I'm kinda jealous I wrote this solo for this song, because I ended up loving it and now I wanna use if in something of my own, haha. :tongue:

TheGrandWazoo40
12-04-2011, 05:18 PM
*gives you a box of tissues*

Dextrimental
12-04-2011, 05:21 PM
This is awesome! Not my style of music, but recorded very well and the song-writing is top class. Maiden33, great solo, love the harmonies!

How was it recorded, if you don't mind me asking?

EvilCheeseWedge
12-04-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't comment informally on stuff like this very often, but that's great. Love the vocals in particular. Not sure about the clipped cymbals in the soft parts at the beginning, and I think the entrance of the electric guitars needs more impact, if you see what I mean, but otherwise it's awesome.

Thank you :)

I'll have to render one without the extra drums in the beginning, just to try it out. They've been there so long I don't notice them (and when they were first added there were not any orchestrations at all.) I also agree about the guitars needing more impact when they enter. I really appreciate the feedback!


This turned out really well, I have to say I really like it - which is probably a good thing, haha. I have to admit I'm kinda jealous I wrote this solo for this song, because I ended up loving it and now I wanna use if in something of my own, haha. :tongue:

:lol:

Glad you like it! ;) But hey, unless it's just something you don't want to do, which is understandable, it's not like any of us would complain about you using that solo again. This song was an entirely for-fun project.


This is awesome! Not my style of music, but recorded very well and the song-writing is top class. Maiden33, great solo, love the harmonies!

How was it recorded, if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks! :D His solo is quite a beast imo.

Are you asking how his solo was recorded or the song in general? If the solo, I'll defer to him since he recorded it and sent it over.

Dextrimental
12-04-2011, 05:33 PM
Thanks! :D His solo is quite a beast imo.

Are you asking how his solo was recorded or the song in general? If the solo, I'll defer to him since he recorded it and sent it over.

The song in general, specifically all the guitar parts, the tone is dam good!

Maiden33
12-04-2011, 05:42 PM
My own guitar solo was honestly recorded by me plugging my Line 6 Spider III head directly into the "line in" on my laptop. I obviously put a good bit of time into my sound in advance. The Line 6 is now my "back up" amp as I have an all-tube Blackstar HT Stage 100 now - but it's great for recording. Just gotta keep the amp volume and line-in level rather low so as not to get a lot of clipping. For the recording I honestly just used Audacity software, which is free online (though it's a bitch to find the one I have that won't give you an assload of latency problems). Aside from that, I just loaded up the demo he sent me and recorded over it, layering a few tracks where necessary. Then exported the raw solo tracks and emailed them to him.

EvilCheeseWedge
12-04-2011, 05:48 PM
The song in general, specifically all the guitar parts, the tone is dam good!

Most of the song was recorded in California, and some of it was recorded at my place in Ohio. In June my friend from California came to visit. He wrote new vocal melodies for the beginning of the song and we recorded it to that point on my Pro Tools setup, and then went to California. We tracked the vocals at his place, where he also runs Pro Tools, but on a much more elaborate setup than mine.

There's two main guitar parts on this song and those are both from a Mexican Fender Strat that belongs to my buddy. It's a pretty tweaked guitar, with replaced pickups, though I don't remember what kind. The tone is actually from Line 6 Pod Farm 2 - not the actual box - but the Pro Tools plugin version. It's a tone I've spent a fair amount of time tweaking, so glad to hear the tone is liked :) Those tracks were recorded in California.

There's two other guitar tracks (various leads), and they're from my Fender Deluxe Power Stratocaster (what a terrible guitar name imo :lol:) running through the same plugin. I recorded those back here in Ohio. The bass was recorded on a Schecter bass running into an AmpexSVX plugin. That tone was created by my buddy. The drum part was also created by him and recorded through MIDI, so the drums sounds are actually EastWest's Ministry of Rock (http://www.soundsonline.com/Ministry-Of-Rock), specifically the Black kit. The orchestrations are from their Symphonic Orchestras sample package as well and I composed them (via MIDI) after the rest of the song was done.

In general I did most of the other mixing and production - all in Pro Tools. I used backwards reverb to help transition to the chorus (we ran out of time to write a proper transition.) And I also recorded myself speaking for the spoken word verse (which wasn't supposed to be spoken, but we ran out of time to track vocals on it in California.) The piano at the end is a Steinway D concert grand, and I'm pretty happy with how it sounds.

I really wish we would've had more time in California to record the song. When I was there we wrote the chorus one night, and recorded it and the rest of the song the next. :lol:

EvilCheeseWedge
12-04-2011, 05:51 PM
My own guitar solo was honestly recorded by me plugging my Line 6 Spider III head directly into the "line in" on my laptop. I obviously put a good bit of time into my sound in advance. The Line 6 is now my "back up" amp as I have an all-tube Blackstar HT Stage 100 now - but it's great for recording. Just gotta keep the amp volume and line-in level rather low so as not to get a lot of clipping. For the recording I honestly just used Audacity software, which is free online (though it's a bitch to find the one I have that won't give you an assload of latency problems). Aside from that, I just loaded up the demo he sent me and recorded over it, layering a few tracks where necessary. Then exported the raw solo tracks and emailed them to him.

Yeah, it worked out pretty well. I manually lined up your solo tracks to the song, but I think they sound mostly in phase with the rest of the song. In a perfect world I would've made it out to Pennsylvania to track your solo directly into Pro Tools, but either way, it's awesome you contributed. I think the song really deserved an epic solo, and you delivered!

Maiden33
12-04-2011, 06:09 PM
Yeah, it worked out pretty well. I manually lined up your solo tracks to the song, but I think they sound mostly in phase with the rest of the song. In a perfect world I would've made it out to Pennsylvania to track your solo directly into Pro Tools, but either way, it's awesome you contributed. I think the song really deserved an epic solo, and you delivered!

Thanks! It was honestly a lot of fun to do it. I love writing and recording solos - I especially love when I can contribute to something someone else wrote. I'm so used to being the driving creative force behind everything that I forget how much I enjoy it. It's great to just get to add something to something where someone else is putting the hard work and believes in you.

Also, for any curious parties, in addition to what I already mentioned:
I played an Epiphone Les Paul Studio with original pickups and Ernie Ball Super Slinky strings.

Dextrimental
12-04-2011, 06:23 PM
That's bitchin'! I love creating songs like that, me and my buddies do it all the time, just writing and recording nearly on the spot just for the fun. I have a solo EP on its way, hopefully early next year, and its being done through Reaper with a Line 6 Pod 2.0, basic, but efficient set up. Maiden33, have you tried Reaper? Its the free, older brother of Audacity!

Anyways, I won't clog this thread up with discussion away from the song, as it deserves to be heard! Great job again!

larvtard
12-04-2011, 06:59 PM
Damn. Not really a fan of this type of music, but this is really cool. Or maybe I am a fan of this genre after all...?

Vocals are so awesome, solo very impressive.

EvilCheeseWedge
12-05-2011, 08:02 AM
Damn. Not really a fan of this type of music, but this is really cool. Or maybe I am a fan of this genre after all...?

Vocals are so awesome, solo very impressive.

Thanks. :)

A few of you have mentioned it's not your style/genre. I'm curious, what genre would you consider it/what bands would you compare it to? I'm genuinely curious ;)

larvtard
12-05-2011, 08:15 AM
Thanks. :)

A few of you have mentioned it's not your style/genre. I'm curious, what genre would you consider it/what bands would you compare it to? I'm genuinely curious ;)

Would you call this progressive metal, perhaps with a hint of traditional metal?

Maiden33
12-05-2011, 08:31 AM
To me this is basically Traditional/Progressive metal, but the vocals do give it this sort of slight gothic overtone to it.

EvilCheeseWedge
12-05-2011, 08:41 AM
Would you call this progressive metal, perhaps with a hint of traditional metal?

Yeah, that's probably what I'd consider it. I wasn't sure if that's what others would consider it though, especially since I assumed (maybe that's the problem) that people here generally like traditional metal :lol:

I like the "gothic overtone" comment ;)

I wasn't sure whether the vocals fit the idea of traditional metal or not. I wish I had a version with my buddy using his real singing voice. He sings opera, but he was deliberately trying to suppress some of that style when he sang on this song.

Maiden33
12-05-2011, 08:51 AM
especially since I assumed (maybe that's the problem) that people here generally like traditional metal :lol:.

Yeah, at this point that's probably an incorrect assumption, haha.

SerpentineVIVIVI
12-06-2011, 02:22 PM
I also don't usually post on this stuff, believing in Thumper's words, but this is really really good. I've found myself listening to this twice, which is a lot for a random internet song, if you will. This actually sounds different from most stuff now-in-days, and the voice is certainly a part. The key changes work great with the song, and it all ends up flowing quite nicely. Very catchy indeed. Good luck with continuing the project (if those are your plans).

EvilCheeseWedge
12-07-2011, 09:28 AM
I also don't usually post on this stuff, believing in Thumper's words, but this is really really good. I've found myself listening to this twice, which is a lot for a random internet song, if you will. This actually sounds different from most stuff now-in-days, and the voice is certainly a part. The key changes work great with the song, and it all ends up flowing quite nicely. Very catchy indeed. Good luck with continuing the project (if those are your plans).

Wow, thanks. I'm glad you like it! Since people are enjoying the song I'm hoping we will do more music like this in the future, but who knows ;)

Maiden33
12-07-2011, 09:50 AM
Wow, thanks. I'm glad you like it! Since people are enjoying the song I'm hoping we will do more music like this in the future, but who knows ;)

I'm definitely game for more guest guitar solos. :D

EvilCheeseWedge
12-07-2011, 09:52 AM
I'm definitely game for more guest guitar solos. :D

Hahahaha, I shit you not I originally typed, "Hopefully Jeff will want to play more solos" but then left it out of the post. I'm glad to hear it though. The strong performances (your solo, my buddy singing, etc.) are what really make the song for me, honestly.

Maiden33
12-07-2011, 04:30 PM
I got around to uploading this so I figured I'd share it here. When I was asked to play the solo on this, my friend suggested that I jokingly send James (Cheese) a completely horrible solo and try to convince him it was my genuine contribution. I couldn't work up the balls to do it for real, so after I sent him the real solo I sent him this... and now since this has caught on, I figured I'd share it:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2785016261642

ravenheart
12-08-2011, 04:08 AM
I got around to uploading this so I figured I'd share it here. When I was asked to play the solo on this, my friend suggested that I jokingly send James (Cheese) a completely horrible solo and try to convince him it was my genuine contribution. I couldn't work up the balls to do it for real, so after I sent him the real solo I sent him this... and now since this has caught on, I figured I'd share it:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2785016261642

:lol:

I've heard some actually released solos similar... :eyes: