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DethMaiden
11-16-2011, 08:01 PM
Just putting this here, will start by the weekend if not the next 24 hours, just working on finalizing my lists. 25 albums, one per day, followed by 10 live sets, also one per day. Hope y'all are ready to flame my hipster ass. :allan:

illuminatus917
11-16-2011, 08:08 PM
I've been working on my top 50 and writing about two blurbs a day. It's soooooo much fucking work. I'll probably start my thread sometime in December.

Looking forward to your list though! (even though I know what most of your top albums will be)

treghet
11-16-2011, 08:35 PM
Hope y'all are ready to flame my hipster ass. :allan:

I sure am. ;)

SomewhereInTime72
11-16-2011, 08:58 PM
You mean to say that you've actually managed to hear all the albums you want to hear this year?

I'm so behind... :(

DethMaiden
11-16-2011, 08:59 PM
You mean to say that you've actually managed to hear all the albums you want to hear this year?

I'm so behind... :(

Well, deadlines are creeping, so I needed to hurry it up. I have one more release I need to hear the rest of that has a shot at breaking the top 25 and then I feel qualified to make this list. :lol:

Maiden33
11-16-2011, 09:07 PM
I'm approaching the point where I can actually get a handle on making my top albums list. I picked out a top 30 and worked out a rough order. There's maybe 2-3 albums left this year (Royal Hunt, Theocracy) that have a solid shot at the list, but aside from that I'm almost ready to go. I will have a topic up by early-mid December. Probably won't be doing much in the way of reviewing shows, as I've been to so few this year.

SomewhereInTime72
11-16-2011, 09:31 PM
I do have a decent top 20 worked out so far, but there's still a solid 4-5 albums I haven't gotten around to hearing yet that can potentially shake that up... blargh, I'd need like another month at least. :lol:

moobys37
11-16-2011, 10:31 PM
Well we know Fucked Up's topping all of these lists.

MPF
11-16-2011, 11:49 PM
I'll be doing this as well most likely. but I'll let this thread shine before I start.

IrritatedTrout
11-17-2011, 01:44 AM
I can almost make a top 10, I just need to hear two more albums so I will have heard 10.;)

brutal_descent
11-17-2011, 01:46 AM
We all know Fucked Up and Wolves in the Throne Room are going to be in the top three, so that's a load off our backs.

powerslave_85
11-17-2011, 04:04 AM
I might as well get started on mine. I can't think of any albums yet to come out that would have a chance at cracking my top 10.

illuminatus917
11-17-2011, 09:58 AM
Well we know Fucked Up's topping all of these lists.

We all know Fucked Up and Wolves in the Throne Room are going to be in the top three, so that's a load off our backs.

YOU GUYS ARE RUINING IT

Epidemic Reign
11-17-2011, 01:13 PM
I can almost make a top 10, I just need to hear two more albums so I will have heard 10.;)

No shit right?

idrinkwine732
11-17-2011, 04:27 PM
The best album hasn't been released yet, so this is already off to a bad start ;).

DethMaiden
11-17-2011, 05:18 PM
The best album hasn't been released yet, so this is already off to a bad start ;).

What now?

DethMaiden
11-17-2011, 06:21 PM
Here's a little teaser. List starts in earnest tomorrow. I don't have a rule against including EPs and similar releases in my top albums list, but none would have cracked my 25 this year. I still want to give a shout-out to these five:

1. My Dying Bride - "The Barghest o' Whitby"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W4MjfMc7Z1c/TrlXRUgYt0I/AAAAAAAAB0o/A7GipptOZkk/s1600/1320588271_1320577851_my-dying-bride-the-barghest-o-whitby.jpg
This one nearly cracked my top 25 proper, and it is a doozy: a 27-minute funeral doom song about a supernatural dog that takes the listener through every imaginable kind of despair the My Dying Bride blokes have conjured up in their long career in one track. It's not quite "The Return to the Beautiful," but for its ambition alone, it deserves reward.

"The Barghest o' Whitby" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRGG9Nmf2gA)

2. Wavves - "Life Sux"
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/albums/16958/cover-homepage_large.jpg
If "King of the Beach" was Wavves' Nathan Williams trying to impress the music press, this is his fuck-everything punk rock reaction to its success. Guest appearances from Fucked Up's Damian Abraham and Best Coast's Beth Cosentino fuel the ripping "Destroy" and "Nodding Off," but the five-minute mini-epic "I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl" gives "Life Sux" its undisputed highlight.


"I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvge6FidIqE)

3. Between the Buried and Me - "The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues"
http://i19.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0413/81/3ce06d0d8e56b75266a261640a00c581.jpg
Apparently a prequel to a thematically linked full-length that has yet to surface, "The Parallax" sees Between the Buried and Me polishing the proggy excesses of "Colors" and "The Great Misdirect" even more. This may end up looking like a turning point in the band's career when all is said and done, and even though pushing piano and clean vocals much harder than they do here is worrisome, this is a respectable moment in their canon.

"Lunar Wilderness" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atRV7hOtN70&feature=related)

4. Cynic - "Carbon-Based Anatomy"
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/albums/17179/cover-homepage_large.jpg
Pitchfork called Cynic "metal expatriates" in their review of this EP, and that's mostly fair. From the vocodered death metal of "Focus" through the surgically precise prog of "Traced in Air" and onward to the acoustic/electronic remix set "Re-Traced," this has never been a band known for playing it safe. "Carbon-Based Anatomy'"'s title track and "Box Up My Bones" could fit on past Cynic records, but the rest is gloriously off-the-wall, perhaps finally making the forward-thinking Floridians truly unclassifiable.

"Carbon-Based Anatomy" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqvViz4jes)

5. Factory Floor - "Two Different Ways"
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/tracks/12726/header-homepage_large.jpg
I'll admit there's a little bit of bias here since I spent my summer working out of this London electronic trio's studio and heard these songs being created and rehearsed, but there's hardly a more danceable 2011 recording than these two cuts. "Original" and side B remix "Second Way" are dark but unshakably catchy old-school house music at its finest.

"Original" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9-vvLHNvhA)

Wizzbang11
11-17-2011, 08:42 PM
2. Wavves - "Life Sux"[/B]
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/albums/16958/cover-homepage_large.jpg
If "King of the Beach" was Wavves' Nathan Williams trying to impress the music press, this is his fuck-everything punk rock reaction to its success. Guest appearances from Fucked Up's Damian Abraham and Best Coast's Beth Cosentino fuel the ripping "Destroy" and "Nodding Off," but the five-minute mini-epic "I Wanna Meet Dave Grohl" gives "Life Sux" its undisputed highlight.


http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5370/sw03ww3.jpg

Satanic Tyrant Werwolf + photoshop is an odd(and not too creative) choice for a pop-punk album cover.

treghet
11-17-2011, 08:45 PM
Hahahah wow...

moobys37
11-17-2011, 08:54 PM
The best album hasn't been released yet, so this is already off to a bad start ;).

I see what you did there.

Next week :D

DethMaiden
11-17-2011, 09:00 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5370/sw03ww3.jpg

Satanic Tyrant Werwolf + photoshop is an odd(and not too creative) choice for a pop-punk album cover.

Yeah bro everybody's doing it.

Wizzbang11
11-17-2011, 09:07 PM
Yeah bro everybody's doing it.

I didn't mean unique. I just think it's lame to take someone else's promotional picture idea without even doing anything to it besides photoshop filters. I hate all the art for dis-bands, Hellhammer and Sabbath clones that just make slight alterations to classic images, but at least that's done as some kind of homage. This is just a random band picture they had nothing to do with the creation of. There's some other ironic use of a metal band picture on a pop-punk album that I currently forget the name of, where they took a really gay picture of Blacky from some Voivod promo shoot, and that one is just as lame, but at least they messed with the colours a bit.

mankvill
11-17-2011, 09:23 PM
Wavves

FUCK YOU BRAD SANDERS

YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD TO ME

mankvill
11-17-2011, 09:25 PM
I didn't mean unique. I just think it's lame to take someone else's promotional picture idea without even doing anything to it besides photoshop filters. I hate all the art for dis-bands, Hellhammer and Sabbath clones that just make slight alterations to classic images, but at least that's done as some kind of homage. This is just a random band picture they had nothing to do with the creation of. There's some other ironic use of a metal band picture on a pop-punk album that I currently forget the name of, where they took a really gay picture of Blacky from some Voivod promo shoot, and that one is just as lame, but at least they messed with the colours a bit.

Wavves isn't pop-punk

They are bullshit faggotshit definition of hipster lo-fi faggotshit

brutal_descent
11-17-2011, 09:25 PM
FUCK YOU BRAD SANDERS

YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD TO ME

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln7hvfS13P1qcwrdzo1_cover.png

treghet
11-17-2011, 09:26 PM
Wavves isn't pop-punk

They are bullshit faggotshit definition of hipster lo-fi faggotshit

:lol:

DethMaiden
11-17-2011, 09:28 PM
Haven't even posted the first record and the hipster flamefest begins! :party: Suck it, everyone! :) :)

mankvill
11-17-2011, 09:30 PM
Haven't even posted the first record and the hipster flamefest begins! :party: Suck it, everyone! :) :)

:flame::flame::flame::flame::flame::flame::flame:: flame::flame::flame:

illuminatus917
11-17-2011, 09:31 PM
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3628/screenshot20111118at122.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/screenshot20111118at122.png/)

idrinkwine732
11-17-2011, 11:12 PM
What now?
My icon. Know it, foo.
I see what you did there.

Next week :D

Shipping starts next week, hopefully I have it in my eardrums by the week after.

treghet
11-17-2011, 11:19 PM
My icon. Know it, foo.

I can't tell what it is, but I can see that it's not Vektor. :hmm:

larvtard
11-18-2011, 08:22 AM
What now?

VEKTOR DAMMIT

Though knowing wine, it's probably Cormorant :tp:

idrinkwine732
11-18-2011, 09:04 AM
Though knowing wine, it's probably Cormorant :tp:

:flame:

also, :hecho: @ implication Cormorant is not going to be the clear cut #1.

illuminatus917
11-18-2011, 10:53 AM
Cormorant :tp:

What's this all about.

:flame::flame::flame:

DethMaiden
11-18-2011, 10:59 AM
Vektor and Cormorant are the two most inexplicably overrated acts on this site.

larvtard
11-18-2011, 11:16 AM
Vektor and Cormorant are the two most inexplicably overrated acts on this site.

JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S OVERRATED

Also, don't get in a hissy fit over me rolling my internet eyes, I still think Cormorant is awesome. I was just making fun of wine.

illuminatus917
11-18-2011, 12:17 PM
Also, don't get in a hissy fit over me rolling my internet eyes, I still think Cormorant is awesome. I was just making fun of wine.

No hissy. His fanboyism of Cormorant and your fanboyism of Vektor both warrant the :tp: in due fairness ;).

But I'm not gonna lie and say Vektor has a better shot at cracking the top of the list than Cormorant.

mankvill
11-18-2011, 12:33 PM
Vektor and Cormorant are the two most inexplicably overrated acts on this site.

>calls Vektor and Cormorant overrated
>just flew to New York to see Fucked Up play

treghet
11-18-2011, 01:05 PM
>calls Vektor and Cormorant overrated
>just flew to New York to see Fucked Up play

Burn.

JRA
11-18-2011, 01:05 PM
I've never even heard of Vektor or Cormorant

larvtard
11-18-2011, 01:10 PM
I've never even heard of Vektor or Cormorant

:eek:

Dude, being the thrash fan you are, LISTEN TO THEM NOW!!!

Natrlhi
11-18-2011, 01:44 PM
Vektor and Cormorant are both going to be very good, I think, but I don't know about top ten. Maybe for Cormorant. Maybe.

Brad saying that these are the two most overrated bands discussed on this site is a bit much, though. :rolleyes:

I'm definitely looking forward to this list, although it's getting to be that it's more for the writing style and less for the musical opinions expressed therein nowadays. ;)

OH NO HE DINT

DethMaiden
11-18-2011, 01:50 PM
>calls Vektor and Cormorant overrated
>just flew to New York to see Fucked Up play

I repeat, on this site.

Nowhere in real life on the Web do people go on about Black Future or Metazoa like you people. ;)

DethMaiden
11-18-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm definitely looking forward to this list, although it's getting to be that it's more for the writing style and less for the musical opinions expressed therein nowadays. ;)

OH NO HE DINT

You're gonna like a decent amount of my shit, I think. :allan:

Spiner202
11-18-2011, 01:54 PM
I repeat, on this site.

Nowhere in real life on the Web do people go on about Black Future or Metazoa like you people. ;)

It's also overrated at Metal-Archives and Thrash Unlimited. Black Future is the most overrated thrash record ever. Yes, it's good, but it's really not that good. I can name tons of newer Thrash albums (old or new) that are way better.

I'm interested in the new one though because it seems to be quite a bit shorter.

Natrlhi
11-18-2011, 01:57 PM
You're gonna like a decent amount of my shit, I think. :allan:Yeah, prolly. At the very least, most of your stuff will likely be on my list somewhere, because chances are I'm going to get way too over-ambitious and try to review like 150 albums or some shit like that. The thing might get published by June this time around, especially since I haven't even started it yet. :rolleyes:

mankvill
11-18-2011, 02:21 PM
Black Future is the most overrated thrash record ever.

How can the best thrash record of the past 20 years be overrated :confused:

DethMaiden
11-18-2011, 02:41 PM
http://www.idsnews.com/news/mfiles/photos/0000-li-1326794028-tnl.jpg
25. Lionize - Destruction Manual
(Hardline Entertainment)


After a handful of tours opening for Clutch, it's not all that surprising that Maryland reggae rockers Lionize have finally grown into their skin. Where Space Pope and the Glass Machine was an overreaching mess that dabbled as much in Pink Floyd as it did Bob Marley, Destruction Manual sounds an awful lot like From Beale Street to Oblivion run through a reggae filter. Somehow the songs are more epic for it, whether the band rides simple, stupid riffs to pay dirt ("Dumb and Dangerous," "DC Is Tropical") or let the music breathe in huge, spaced-out passages ("Killers and Crooks," "Surrender"). Frontman Nathan Bergman's singing voice, once just a smoother take on Neil Fallon's gravelly croon, has found its identity, and his lyrical wordplay, while far simpler than his Clutch counterpart, is finally clever enough to make the hooks effective. This record succeeds not just as a pastiche of more talented influences but as the moment where Lionize became a great band in their own right.

"Nation Builders" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTF4HRqp90)

Spiner202
11-18-2011, 02:47 PM
How can the best thrash record of the past 20 years be overrated :confused:

It isn't overrated. But that record isn't Black Future :P

Waking Into Nightmares :cool:

mankvill
11-18-2011, 02:47 PM
It isn't overrated. But that record isn't Black Future :P

Waking Into Nightmares :cool:

I love me some Warbringer, but son u krazy

DethMaiden
11-19-2011, 10:38 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPZcz0CrkVU/TWctGJa2oNI/AAAAAAAAF8o/0WhjrbqPt8A/s400/Darkest%2BHour%2B-%2BThe%2BHuman%2BRomance%2B%2528Front%2BCover%2529 %2Bby%2BEneas.jpg
24. Darkest Hour - The Human Romance
(E1 Records)

I'm not exactly a metalcore fan, so when a band within that particular subgenre impresses me, they're really doing something right. In a year sadly light on fist-pumping, car-windows-down summer metal, this scorcher is a lean killing machine of punchy, melodic four-minute anthems. There's nothing too revolutionary here, just a collection of melodic death metal triumphs that give even At the Gates a run for their money. Unlike most of their similarly semi-respectable contemporaries and offspring (As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, Miss May I), Darkest Hour's clean vocals really shine. John Henry doesn't switch to a nut-wrenching falsetto or a Hot Topic-pandering whine when he switches the growling off; rather, it's just a more coherent version of the same viciousness. He's easily the best vocalist in metalcore, and the Gothenburg-via-Maiden twin leads from Lonestar Carrigan and Mike Schleibaum perfectly complement his screams. You won't hear me say this often, but this is a metalcore album you shouldn't sleep on.

"Savor the Kill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaJqC_Uhxew)

Rocco44
11-19-2011, 11:09 AM
I never really understood why Darkest Hour get put into the metalcore genre. To me they are thrash or melodic death with only the vocals having a hardcore influence. Genre bullshit aside its a decent album, though not much replay value for me. I'll stick to their older material for my fix.

mastodon421
11-19-2011, 11:18 AM
How can the best thrash record of the past 20 years be overrated :confused:

I think it is too. Don't get wrong, Vektor is very good. I just don't think they are completely worthy of the insane praise they get.

mastodon421
11-19-2011, 11:20 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPZcz0CrkVU/TWctGJa2oNI/AAAAAAAAF8o/0WhjrbqPt8A/s400/Darkest%2BHour%2B-%2BThe%2BHuman%2BRomance%2B%2528Front%2BCover%2529 %2Bby%2BEneas.jpg
24. Darkest Hour - The Human Romance
(E1 Records)

I'm not exactly a metalcore fan, so when a band within that particular subgenre impresses me, they're really doing something right. In a year sadly light on fist-pumping, car-windows-down summer metal, this scorcher is a lean killing machine of punchy, melodic four-minute anthems. There's nothing too revolutionary here, just a collection of melodic death metal triumphs that give even At the Gates a run for their money. Unlike most of their similarly semi-respectable contemporaries and offspring (As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, Miss May I), Darkest Hour's clean vocals really shine. John Henry doesn't switch to a nut-wrenching falsetto or a Hot Topic-pandering whine when he switches the growling off; rather, it's just a more coherent version of the same viciousness. He's easily the best vocalist in metalcore, and the Gothenburg-via-Maiden twin leads from Lonestar Carrigan and Mike Schleibaum perfectly complement his screams. You won't hear me say this often, but this is a metalcore album you shouldn't sleep on.

"Savor the Kill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaJqC_Uhxew)

:fist: Great choice dude. This is very high on my list as well.

mankvill
11-19-2011, 11:20 AM
I think it is too. Don't get wrong, Vektor is very good. I just don't think they are completely worthy of the insane praise they get.

:finger2:

Maiden33
11-19-2011, 11:24 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPZcz0CrkVU/TWctGJa2oNI/AAAAAAAAF8o/0WhjrbqPt8A/s400/Darkest%2BHour%2B-%2BThe%2BHuman%2BRomance%2B%2528Front%2BCover%2529 %2Bby%2BEneas.jpg
24. Darkest Hour - The Human Romance
(E1 Records)

http://israbox.com/uploads/posts/2009-02/1233776392_tesla-forever-more-2008.jpg

treghet
11-19-2011, 11:26 AM
Stock photo album covers are cool.

ChildrenofSodom
11-19-2011, 12:28 PM
I disagree that DH's clean vocals are better than Howard Jones, but that's only a small complaint. I'm always excited to read your lists, not because I agree with your non-metal choices, but because I usually love your top metal albums. I expect black metal galore. :horns:

And the cover is not really a ripoff of Tesla. The picture is from an archaeological site in Italy. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250602,00.html

illuminatus917
11-19-2011, 12:30 PM
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/125/screenshot20111119at328.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screenshot20111119at328.png/)

Maiden33
11-19-2011, 12:39 PM
My point wasn't to try to discredit one band and award it to the other. I realize it's a very unoriginal thing to begin with and all that - I was just pointing it out for amusement.

illuminatus917
11-19-2011, 12:43 PM
Yeah, but I think Tesla was the first to use it. That makes them if anything the least unoriginal.

moobys37
11-19-2011, 01:10 PM
How can the best thrash record of the past 20 years be overrated :confused:

By calling it the best thrash record of the past 20 years perhaps?

mankvill
11-19-2011, 02:15 PM
By calling it the best thrash record of the past 20 years perhaps?

HOW CAN TRUTH BE OVERRATED!

okay i don't wanna detract from Brad's thread anymore <3

I still need to check out Darkest Hour. :hmm:

illuminatus917
11-19-2011, 02:23 PM
okay i don't wanna detract from Brad's thread anymore <3


I thought that's what we were all trying to do here :eyes: ;).

GarageMetal468
11-19-2011, 10:37 PM
Wavves isn't pop-punk

They are bullshit faggotshit definition of hipster lo-fi faggotshit

:fist:

DethMaiden
11-20-2011, 08:12 AM
Manks, your reasoned criticism of Wavves has been noted. I will file them under "bullshit hipster lo-fi faggotshit" in iTunes from now on. Thanks for your help.

treghet
11-20-2011, 08:18 AM
Manks, your reasoned criticism of Wavves has been noted. I will file them under "bullshit hipster lo-fi faggotshit" in iTunes from now on. Thanks for your help.

Always good to be organized. Wavves is a major innovator of the genre.

DethMaiden
11-20-2011, 11:15 AM
http://www.newreleasesnow.com/art/Deafheaven--Roads-To-Judah.jpg
23. Deafheaven - Roads to Judah
(Deathwish Inc.)

Black metal is my favorite genre, but a lot of the black metal I like sounds suspiciously like something else. I'm pretty lenient in what I call black metal (Liturgy? Totally. Cobalt? Why not. Alcest? I'd say so.) but even I think there might be a case to be made that the excellent four-track Roads to Judah by California natives Deafheaven ain't quite BM. Sure, the vocals are there, but much of this is tried-and-true post-metal, closer to Isis than Immortal. Genre-splitting aside, the four songs on Roads to Judah are mini-epics with spiraling structures and excellent performances. The songs become arguably the most black metal when they reach their climaxes, which are uniformly visceral, intense whirlwinds, the sound of the band forcing us to take them seriously as a frostbitten horde. And it basically works. Despite album opener "Violet" sounding like an outtake from Mouth of the Architect's The Ties That Blind for more than half its marathon length, when all the musical tension comes to a head, the catharsis is far too furious to retain the post-metal moniker. So yes, Roads to Judah is a black metal album, an unconventional one but no less excellent for its post-leanings.

"Language Games" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S08Af4fqso)

ChildrenofSodom
11-20-2011, 11:23 AM
I love Deafheaven. Thanks again for telling me about this album. Its gonna be high on my list as well.

Natrlhi
11-20-2011, 02:04 PM
Despite album opener "Violet" sounding like an outtake from Mouth of the Architect's The Ties That Blind for more than half its marathon length, when all the musical tension comes to a head, the catharsis is far too furious to retain the post-metal moniker.Funny you should say this, because I always tell folks that the first two minutes of the track "Unrequited" from Roads to Judah reminds me of something that would have been on MotA's Quietly. :lol:

moobys37
11-20-2011, 02:21 PM
HOW CAN TRUTH BE OVERRATED!

ummmmm.....

Just by saying that?

ChildrenofSodom
11-20-2011, 02:27 PM
ummmmm.....

Just by saying that?

That's the fucking joke. Quit feeding the troll.

DethMaiden
11-20-2011, 02:39 PM
Funny you should say this, because I always tell folks that the first two minutes of the track "Unrequited" from Roads to Judah reminds me of something that would have been on MotA's Quietly. :lol:

I think the two bands have way more in common then people would assume. I'd pay top dollar to see them tour together. :drool:

DethMaiden
11-21-2011, 10:59 AM
http://www.metalwar.ru/uploads/posts/2011-11/1320130199_mournful-congregation-2011.jpg
22. Mournful Congregation - The Book of Kings
(20 Buck Spin)

When the follow-up to Aussie funeral doom crew Mournful Congregation's masterpiece, The June Frost, was announced, I wasn't sure if I should laugh, cry, or brace myself. Four tracks. 77 minutes. A 33-minute title track to close the album. This is a band known for going long, but not quite this long. Still, the resulting album goes about as well as you'd expect it to in such capable hands. Album opener "The Catechism of Depression" is the highlight, moving through its relatively lean 19 minutes with grace, trading lengthy passages of darkness with brief glimmers of light. The mostly acoustic "The Waterless Streams" and "The Bitter Veils of Solemnity" flesh out the album's middle, each weighing in with practically grindcore-like 12-minute run times. By the time "The Book of Kings" comes on and your pillow is thoroughly soaked with tears, the band makes a case for the upper limits of how long one can be utterly heavy for. This is deliberately uncatchy music, and you're unlikely to get through a play of the album wanting to immediately revisit some hook or riff. But as long as the needle is down, this is hypnotically good stuff. My Dying Bride, watch your backs.

"The Catechism of Depression" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwUPuqgdGA)

ChildrenofSodom
11-21-2011, 12:15 PM
The band logo looks like it was quickly scribbled by an elderly black lady. (I've come across a lot of elderly black lady handwriting, don't question me!)

illuminatus917
11-21-2011, 01:09 PM
I was expecting this one to be higher on the list. My reaction may have been similar to yours... when I first listened to it I think I jumped the gun a bit and placed it too high. Since, it's come down quite a bit.

hb420
11-21-2011, 02:06 PM
I was expecting this one to be higher on the list. My reaction may have been similar to yours... when I first listened to it I think I jumped the gun a bit and placed it too high. Since, it's come down quite a bit.

Same exact thing with me literally worshiped it at first, then it dropped. You and Dethmaiden should check out Esoteric. It's easily my favorite funeral doom album to come out in a while.

DethMaiden
11-21-2011, 02:09 PM
I was expecting this one to be higher on the list. My reaction may have been similar to yours... when I first listened to it I think I jumped the gun a bit and placed it too high. Since, it's come down quite a bit.

Yeah, I think the instant shock of four songs that long sitting next to each other actually working made me overrate it, then I realized that while all four songs are very good, it's kind of a fucking chore to get through the album. :lol:

illuminatus917
11-21-2011, 02:11 PM
Same exact thing with me literally worshiped it at first, then it dropped. You and Dethmaiden should check out Esoteric. It's easily my favorite funeral doom album to come out in a while.

Actually, I think that's one of the doom albums I checked out and never went back to because it didn't impress me. Same with Elder. If I have time I'll give it another try. I'm almost completely burnt out on listening to albums.

Have you heard the new Wreck of the Hesperus?

hb420
11-21-2011, 02:33 PM
Actually, I think that's one of the doom albums I checked out and never went back to because it didn't impress me. Same with Elder. If I have time I'll give it another try. I'm almost completely burnt out on listening to albums.

Have you heard the new Wreck of the Hesperus?

No I haven't, but I'll get on that. Are you into drone/doom? If you are I'd easily recommend Bong's Beyond Ancient Space. It's a long album but never really seems like it.

illuminatus917
11-21-2011, 02:49 PM
No I haven't, but I'll get on that. Are you into drone/doom? If you are I'd easily recommend Bong's Beyond Ancient Space. It's a long album but never really seems like it.

Cool, I'll add that to the list too. I prefer funeral and gothic and traditional doom, but drone and sludgy stuff can have an appeal too.

hb420
11-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Cool, I'll add that to the list too. I prefer funeral and gothic and traditional doom, but drone and sludgy stuff can have an appeal too.

Since you like traditional you NEED to hear the new Lord Vicar. It's amazing :drool:

idrinkwine732
11-21-2011, 05:37 PM
Black metal is my favorite genre, but a lot of the black metal I like sounds suspiciously like something else. I'm pretty lenient in what I call black metal (Liturgy? Totally. Cobalt? Why not. Alcest? I'd say so.) but even I think there might be a case to be made that the excellent four-track Roads to Judah by California natives Deafheaven ain't quite BM. Sure, the vocals are there, but much of this is tried-and-true post-metal, closer to Isis than Immortal. Genre-splitting aside, the four songs on Roads to Judah are mini-epics with spiraling structures and excellent performances. The songs become arguably the most black metal when they reach their climaxes, which are uniformly visceral, intense whirlwinds, the sound of the band forcing us to take them seriously as a frostbitten horde. And it basically works. Despite album opener "Violet" sounding like an outtake from Mouth of the Architect's The Ties That Blind for more than half its marathon length, when all the musical tension comes to a head, the catharsis is far too furious to retain the post-metal moniker. So yes, Roads to Judah is a black metal album, an unconventional one but no less excellent for its post-leanings.

"Language Games" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S08Af4fqso)

I love Deafheaven. Thanks again for telling me about this album. Its gonna be high on my list as well.

Funny you should say this, because I always tell folks that the first two minutes of the track "Unrequited" from Roads to Judah reminds me of something that would have been on MotA's Quietly. :lol:

Glad to see you complied ;)

http://metalsetlists.com/showpost.php?p=342034&postcount=577

DethMaiden
11-21-2011, 11:21 PM
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21. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
(Sub Pop Records)

And you thought this list was going pretty well, didn't you? Well, guess what, the dudes behind my 2008 Album of the Year are back with another solid release. I won't say this often, but this isn't as good as Fleet Foxes in part because it's much more experimental and a lot of the experiments don't work. That being said, the album's finest moments are the experiments that go right, so I have nothing but high hopes for the next Fleet Foxes record. What we have here, though, is 12 tracks of American folk music that recalls everyone from Dylan to Baez to Simon & Garfunkel while never sacrificing that trademark Fleet Foxes sound that Robin Pecknold's voice (and the church choir-like harmonies from the rest of the band) contributes. The highlights here are easier to pick out than on the 2008 stuff since the songs sound so different from one another, and nothing stands out quite like "The Shrine/An Argument," an eight-minute whopper of a track that sees the Foxes throwing their penchant for pleasantness to the wind with unresolved melodies, strained vocals, lots of musical tension, and a now-infamous barrage of strangled horns interrupting the song's denouement. Only it's not really a denouement, because nothing gets resolved. It's a brazen, daring track from a band whose masterpiece was borne of trying to create a great set of songs to play around a campfire. If the next record is entirely made of tracks as bold and as excellent as "The Shrine/An Argument," the sky's the limit for these dudes.

"The Shrine/An Argument" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_XXismYUZs)

larvtard
11-21-2011, 11:24 PM
Since you like traditional you NEED to hear the new Lord Vicar. It's amazing :drool:

Dude, I think there's about 100 albums from this year that, at this point, you've said are amazing :lol:

But that Lord VIcar split is indeed very good :rocker:

DethMaiden
11-22-2011, 09:03 AM
Just realized all the first Fleet Foxes album's backers don't post here anymore. Fuck. :lol:

ravenheart
11-22-2011, 09:14 AM
Here's a little teaser. List starts in earnest tomorrow. I don't have a rule against including EPs and similar releases in my top albums list, but none would have cracked my 25 this year. I still want to give a shout-out to these five:

1. My Dying Bride - "The Barghest o' Whitby"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W4MjfMc7Z1c/TrlXRUgYt0I/AAAAAAAAB0o/A7GipptOZkk/s1600/1320588271_1320577851_my-dying-bride-the-barghest-o-whitby.jpg
This one nearly cracked my top 25 proper, and it is a doozy: a 27-minute funeral doom song about a supernatural dog that takes the listener through every imaginable kind of despair the My Dying Bride blokes have conjured up in their long career in one track. It's not quite "The Return to the Beautiful," but for its ambition alone, it deserves reward.

You disappoint me :hmm:

Natrlhi
11-22-2011, 09:29 AM
^ Speaking of which...

I don't have a rule against including EPs and similar releases in my top albums list, but none would have cracked my 25 this year. I still want to give a shout-out to these five:

1. My Dying Bride - "The Barghest o' Whitby"
2. Wavves - "Life Sux"
3. Between the Buried and Me - "The Parallax: Hypersleep Dialogues"
4. Cynic - "Carbon-Based Anatomy"
5. Factory Floor - "Two Different Ways"What, no seafood on the menu?

http://reigninart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Giant-Squid-Cenotes.jpg
SON I AM DISAPPOINT

DethMaiden
11-22-2011, 09:30 AM
I listened to it, which is more than I probably ought to have done after I disliked the album in your avatar so much. ;)

Metridium Field or nothing. :hmm:

ravenheart
11-22-2011, 09:31 AM
So an EP that Nat says rules isn't there at all, and one that sucks is at number 1.

Not sure we're all on the same page here ;)

Natrlhi
11-22-2011, 09:40 AM
I listened to it, which is more than I probably ought to have done after I disliked the album in your avatar so much. ;)

Metridium Field or nothing. :hmm:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mkQODQfOMic/TPXQYsa4TZI/AAAAAAAAAWE/f4JSGZA2Yec/s1600/You+Can%2527t+Handle+the+Truth.jpg
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE CELLO!!!

Natrlhi
11-22-2011, 09:43 AM
So an EP that Nat says rules isn't there at all, and one that sucks is at number 1.

Not sure we're all on the same page here ;)Well, to be fair, I never said it rules - but it's damn sure as good as or better than some of the other entries on his list.

illuminatus917
11-22-2011, 12:11 PM
Technically it's a full-length, no?

idrinkwine732
11-22-2011, 12:19 PM
Technically it's a full-length, no?

Nope, Cenotes is an EP.

powerslave_85
11-22-2011, 02:35 PM
I really tried to get into Fleet Foxes. It was playing in the car pretty much the whole time I was visiting my friend in Michigan, but it just doesn't click with me.

mankvill
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
I really tried to get into Fleet Foxes. It was playing in the car pretty much the whole time I was visiting my friend in Michigan, but it just doesn't click with me.

quit being so close minded

powerslave_85
11-22-2011, 07:44 PM
Also:

I never really understood why Darkest Hour get put into the metalcore genre. To me they are thrash or melodic death with only the vocals having a hardcore influence.

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS AND EVERYONE ALWAYS CALLS ME CRAZY. FUCK YOU ALL.

treghet
11-23-2011, 12:07 AM
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS AND EVERYONE ALWAYS CALLS ME CRAZY. FUCK YOU ALL.

Well, I agree with both of you. Anybody who thinks they're straight metalcore is probably an idiot.

Epidemic Reign
11-23-2011, 01:28 AM
5. Factory Floor - "Two Different Ways"
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/tracks/12726/header-homepage_large.jpg
I'll admit there's a little bit of bias here since I spent my summer working out of this London electronic trio's studio and heard these songs being created and rehearsed, but there's hardly a more danceable 2011 recording than these two cuts. "Original" and side B remix "Second Way" are dark but unshakably catchy old-school house music at its finest.

"Original" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9-vvLHNvhA)

If that's good enough to be here (which I admit it's not bad), then this definitely ought to be in your top 25:

http://www.self-titledmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/escapevelocity_900.jpg

street_burial
11-23-2011, 04:49 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPZcz0CrkVU/TWctGJa2oNI/AAAAAAAAF8o/0WhjrbqPt8A/s400/Darkest%2BHour%2B-%2BThe%2BHuman%2BRomance%2B%2528Front%2BCover%2529 %2Bby%2BEneas.jpg
24. Darkest Hour - The Human Romance
(E1 Records)

I'm not exactly a metalcore fan, so when a band within that particular subgenre impresses me, they're really doing something right. In a year sadly light on fist-pumping, car-windows-down summer metal, this scorcher is a lean killing machine of punchy, melodic four-minute anthems. There's nothing too revolutionary here, just a collection of melodic death metal triumphs that give even At the Gates a run for their money. Unlike most of their similarly semi-respectable contemporaries and offspring (As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engage, Miss May I), Darkest Hour's clean vocals really shine. John Henry doesn't switch to a nut-wrenching falsetto or a Hot Topic-pandering whine when he switches the growling off; rather, it's just a more coherent version of the same viciousness. He's easily the best vocalist in metalcore, and the Gothenburg-via-Maiden twin leads from Lonestar Carrigan and Mike Schleibaum perfectly complement his screams. You won't hear me say this often, but this is a metalcore album you shouldn't sleep on.

"Savor the Kill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaJqC_Uhxew)

:fist::fist: I love this list already. The ONLY problem i had with this album was the clean vocals. If the cleans went back to the sound of "Deliver Us" then this album would have been #1 for the year for me. Darkest Hour has a special place in my heart these days for being the band that got me so into metalcore. But still a great step-up from The Eternal Return. Couldn't have done a better review of this album myself

oh and nice stand-out track. My favorite off of this album as well. :shred:

Epidemic Reign
11-23-2011, 06:39 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YPZcz0CrkVU/TWctGJa2oNI/AAAAAAAAF8o/0WhjrbqPt8A/s400/Darkest%2BHour%2B-%2BThe%2BHuman%2BRomance%2B%2528Front%2BCover%2529 %2Bby%2BEneas.jpg

http://israbox.com/uploads/posts/2009-02/1233776392_tesla-forever-more-2008.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/125/screenshot20111119at328.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/screenshot20111119at328.png/)

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/images/covers/brutally-deceased-dead-lovers-guide.jpg

DethMaiden
11-23-2011, 08:27 AM
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20. Mastodon - The Hunter
(Warner Bros./Reprise)

Okay, so promising to get back to their Remission and Leviathan roots with The Hunter was a bad call. No one who heard Crack the Skye could reasonably have expected to hear another "Mother Puncher" or "Iron Tusk," could they? Going in looking for songs like those is a sure recipe for disappointment, but this is a back-to-basics album in a few ways. The songs are short, and almost every one of them would be marketable as a single. The hooks here, while just as plentiful as on the first two records, aren't neck-snapping riffs but carefully crafted melodies and vocal lines. "The Hunter" and "The Sparrow" are Mastodon's most contemplative moments yet, "Black Tongue" and "Spectrelight" are as heavy as anything on Leviathan, and even the bizarre "Creature Lives" works, even if it is mostly on a novelty level. If you know me, you know I'm no great supporter of Crack the Skye. It was 9th on my year-end list in 2009 (call it coming down from fanboyism) but today I find it unlistenable. The Hunter isn't Mastodon moving in a regressive direction that would arguably be just as bad as progging out even more but it's the sound of the band moving in a direction that I can get behind. If Mastodon turn into Queens of the Stone Age, well, is that really so bad?

ravenheart
11-23-2011, 08:46 AM
If Mastodon turn into Queens of the Stone Age, well, is that really so bad?

Yes, it most certainly is.

I still like 'The Hunter' though. Mostly.

IrritatedTrout
11-23-2011, 09:02 AM
The best album of the year.

ravenheart
11-24-2011, 02:53 AM
The best album of the pitiful handfull of albums I've heard this year.

Probably true ;)

IrritatedTrout
11-24-2011, 04:09 AM
Probably true ;)

:flame:

;)

DethMaiden
11-24-2011, 04:04 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/-CKNQKlH5eFw/ToGqZYnfXiI/AAAAAAAAEa8/04fys-xO9AI/LandmineMarathon_Gallows5.jpg
19. Landmine Marathon - Gallows
(Prosthetic Records)

Whatever this thing is that Landmine Marathon is doing this vicious blend of old-school grindcore and death metal with crystal-clear modern production and surgically precise, searing vocals it's working. Their fourth album and second in two years, Gallows, could be their best yet. There isn't an ounce of pretense in this lean, 29-minute rager, just neck-snapping brutality. This kind of music almost defies analysis, so I'll keep it light. Put this record on, bang your head, take your shirt off, pound some PBRs, daydream about Grace Perry if you must, but do not underestimate this incredible young band.

"Three Snake Leaves" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz_IPO2iv5k)

JRA
11-24-2011, 04:25 PM
Yes, it most certainly is.

Yup. Fuck Queefs of the Suck Age.

Also, that Landmine Marathon album cover is awesome.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 03:18 PM
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18. Liturgy - Aesthethica
(Thrill Jockey)

A lot of the black metal I love is derisively called "hipster black metal" by idiots, but no one takes more shit for not killing goats than Brooklyn's Liturgy. It's true, this is very positive-sounding stuff. Tremolo picking in the major key, lots of high notes, lots of almost shoegazing reverb on the vocals...Under a Funeral Moon this is not. But what it does, it does unbelievably well. Every song has a guitar harmony that will bury its way in your brain and an off-kilter riff that you'll injure your neck trying to headbang to. This is slick-sounding stuff, but it's still pretty fucked up musically. Is Hunter Hunt-Hendrix a douche? Maybe, he didn't seem to be when I met him back in July, but there is that Scion interview. Personal opinions about him and his skinny-jeaned bandmates should be put aside immediately, though, when listening to Aesthethica. It's one of the finest slabs of black metal, tr00 or not, that you'll hear all year.

"Sun of Light" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEItOjAN4bE)

powerslave_85
11-25-2011, 04:21 PM
I thought Gallows was gonna make the top 10. Hmm. Such a great record; completely fucking relentless. I listened to it and Sovereign Descent back-to-back today, and you can really hear how much Grace has refined her vocals just in the last year.

That's all I'm gonna say, I gotta save something for my write-up ;)

treghet
11-25-2011, 07:28 PM
A lot of the black metal I love is derisively called "hipster black metal" by idiots

From your article:

The Brooklyn four-piece, you see, has committed a crime far worse than any other possible transgression for a black metal band: they're hipsters.

So... wouldn't that mean they are hipster black metal? :eyes: I'm not saying that in a derogatory way, it's just what this new wave of bands is considered to be, and I don't see how you could really deny that.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 09:51 PM
From your article:



So... wouldn't that mean they are hipster black metal? :eyes: I'm not saying that in a derogatory way, it's just what this new wave of bands is considered to be, and I don't see how you could really deny that.

Hipster black metal is not a genre. That's how.

Calling them hipsters was facetious anyway, I'm not really totally sold that they're hipsters. Why the fuck would they be in a black metal band if they were? How loose has our definition of the hipster become that you can make black metal and still be one?

JRA
11-25-2011, 09:54 PM
but there is that Scion interview.


That Scion interview was a worse crime than being a hipster.

mankvill
11-25-2011, 10:03 PM
How loose has our definition of the hipster become that you can make black metal and still be one?

depends on how hipster the black metal is. :D

BloodoftheKings
11-25-2011, 10:06 PM
It may be black metal but it's very hipster sounding black metal. Way more hipsters listen to Liturgy then black metal fans.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 10:07 PM
It may be black metal but it's very hipster sounding black metal. Way more hipsters listen to Liturgy then black metal fans.

The bold part makes no sense, the second part is pure conjecture.

BloodoftheKings
11-25-2011, 10:08 PM
The bold part makes no sense, the second part is pure conjecture.

It's hard to describe but I know hipster music when I hear it.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 10:10 PM
*sees that poster is going to Lamb of God, Machine Head and Children of Bodom shows*

*breathes*

treghet
11-25-2011, 10:13 PM
Hipster black metal is not a genre. That's how.

Calling them hipsters was facetious anyway, I'm not really totally sold that they're hipsters. Why the fuck would they be in a black metal band if they were? How loose has our definition of the hipster become that you can make black metal and still be one?

I never said it was a genre per se. It's the same as "war metal" or "crabcore" in the sense that it's just some bands that fit a stereotype.

The post- and/or shoegaze elements of these bands (Liturgy, Deafhaven, Alcest, etc.) are what draw hipsters in. While many hipsters prefer indie music, post-rock has become increasingly popular with them as well, so this crossover between genres is not unprecedented. But with that aside, who said there was a strict definition of what music a hipster should like? To my knowledge, a hipster is someone who is in tune with what is popular in the underground (ie: hip), so there's no real binding to a certain genre.

BloodoftheKings
11-25-2011, 10:15 PM
I never said it was a genre per se. It's the same as "war metal" or "crabcore" in the sense that it's just some bands that fit a stereotype.

The post- and/or shoegaze elements of these bands (Liturgy, Deafhaven, Alcest, etc.) are what draw hipsters in. While many hipsters prefer indie music, post-rock has become increasingly popular with them as well, so this crossover between genres is not unprecedented. But with that aside, who said there was a strict definition of what music a hipster should like? To my knowledge, a hipster is someone who is in tune with what is popular in the underground (ie: hip), so there's no real binding to a certain genre.

This.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 10:18 PM
WELL HIPSTER BLACK METAL RULES AND I'M A GREAT BIG HIPSTER

BloodoftheKings
11-25-2011, 10:18 PM
*sees that poster is going to Lamb of God, Machine Head and Children of Bodom shows*

*breathes*

>"suck it haters, i'm ready for the hipster flamefest"
>complain when people call artist on the list hipster.

mankvill
11-25-2011, 10:24 PM
I never said it was a genre per se. It's the same as "war metal" or "crabcore" in the sense that it's just some bands that fit a stereotype.

War metal SHOULD be a legit genre :D

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 10:26 PM
>"suck it haters, i'm ready for the hipster flamefest"
>complain when people call artist on the list hipster.

Hey, I'm all about thoughtful debate (treghet's posts; well done) but "hey it's tough to explain but I know hipster when I hear it" is a pretty good excuse for me to mock you. ;)

El Gordo
11-25-2011, 10:38 PM
Just listening to the recommended track... that shit ain't black metal. Black metal sounds evil and mean, that sounds like they have a big gun firing puppy t-shirts (with poo stains on them) into the crowd. I mean, if you like it whatever, but it's not black metal.

DethMaiden
11-25-2011, 10:49 PM
Alright, I'm not really a big fan of genre conventions (everything in my iTunes is filed under "Music" because they drive me so crazy) but you have to admit "evil and mean" is a lousy definition of black metal and the exact reason bullshit metal classicists say Mercyful Fate and Venom are among the great black metal bands. If you look for actual characteristics of the music, you're gonna find a lot of stuff that appears in Liturgy. If some atmosphere is being created, does it have to be evil? Does Immortal sound evil? Does Enslaved sound evil? Does Wolves in the Throne Room sound evil?

mankvill
11-25-2011, 10:51 PM
I don't know why

and this is so off the mark

but I'm listening to that Liturgy song and the first thing I thought of was Behold The Arctopus trying to do black metal, lmfao :lol:

Maiden33
11-25-2011, 11:12 PM
(everything in my iTunes is filed under "Music" because they drive me so crazy)

Wow, now there's dedication to being specifically "anti-labels"

illuminatus917
11-25-2011, 11:27 PM
(everything in my iTunes is filed under "Music" because they drive me so crazy)

Excepting Wavves.

Epidemic Reign
11-26-2011, 12:30 AM
bullshit metal classicists

Definition: people who do a bullshitty job of classicying metal.

powerslave_85
11-26-2011, 06:50 AM
I never said it was a genre per se. It's the same as "war metal" or "crabcore" in the sense that it's just some bands that fit a stereotype.

The post- and/or shoegaze elements of these bands (Liturgy, Deafhaven, Alcest, etc.) are what draw hipsters in. While many hipsters prefer indie music, post-rock has become increasingly popular with them as well, so this crossover between genres is not unprecedented. But with that aside, who said there was a strict definition of what music a hipster should like? To my knowledge, a hipster is someone who is in tune with what is popular in the underground (ie: hip), so there's no real binding to a certain genre.
All the "hipsters" I know would run from the room with their hands over their ears if someone started playing black metal (or any kind of metal) :lol:

mastodon421
11-26-2011, 06:59 AM
I really need to listen to Gallows. I am ashamed that I haven't heard it yet.

JRA
11-26-2011, 08:11 AM
Alright, I'm not really a big fan of genre conventions (everything in my iTunes is filed under "Music" because they drive me so crazy) but you have to admit "evil and mean" is a lousy definition of black metal and the exact reason bullshit metal classicists say Mercyful Fate and Venom are among the great black metal bands. If you look for actual characteristics of the music, you're gonna find a lot of stuff that appears in Liturgy. If some atmosphere is being created, does it have to be evil? Does Immortal sound evil? Does Enslaved sound evil? Does Wolves in the Throne Room sound evil?

I shall leave this here:
http://ritesoftheblackmoon.tripod.com/article21.html

DethMaiden
11-26-2011, 08:25 AM
I shall leave this here:
http://ritesoftheblackmoon.tripod.com/article21.html

That was stupid. Music shouldn't need to be backward-looking to be "true."

Also, ultimately, music absolutely is defined by what it sounds like, which is why Mercyful Fate are absolutely NOT black metal.

JRA
11-26-2011, 10:22 AM
That was stupid. Music shouldn't need to be backward-looking to be "true."

Also, ultimately, music absolutely is defined by what it sounds like, which is why Mercyful Fate are absolutely NOT black metal.

Having some semblance of connection to roots is backward-looking now? :tp:

mankvill
11-26-2011, 10:25 AM
That was stupid. Music shouldn't need to be backward-looking to be "true."

Also, ultimately, music absolutely is defined by what it sounds like, which is why Mercyful Fate are absolutely NOT black metal.

Bands who are not black metal:

Mercyful Fate/King Diamond
Venom
Celtic Frost

JRA
11-26-2011, 10:27 AM
Bands who are not black metal:
Celtic Frost

I vehemently disagree with that.

By the way, I don't necessarily agree with everything in that article. I think Enslaved is black metal and Mercyful Fate less so, but the conversation of whether or not black metal can only be defined by "evil and mean" reminded me of that article.

ravenheart
11-26-2011, 10:42 AM
One day I'm going to work out how to put into words what the stuff people call "hipster" which clearly isn't but is definitely another form of either elitism or desire to be into something cool that only the knowing understand, really is.

I just can't quite do it yet, so for now, let the hipster arguments continue, and I shall likewise carry on occasionally mis-using the word "hipster" in conversations with Brad just to wind him up ;)

El Gordo
11-26-2011, 11:02 AM
Alright, I'm not really a big fan of genre conventions (everything in my iTunes is filed under "Music" because they drive me so crazy) but you have to admit "evil and mean" is a lousy definition of black metal and the exact reason bullshit metal classicists say Mercyful Fate and Venom are among the great black metal bands. If you look for actual characteristics of the music, you're gonna find a lot of stuff that appears in Liturgy. If some atmosphere is being created, does it have to be evil? Does Immortal sound evil? Does Enslaved sound evil? Does Wolves in the Throne Room sound evil?

OK, agreed that "evil and mean" is a shitty way to describe any genre but I still kind of stand by it. Different genres make you feel different things. Thrash makes me want to make stupid faces and headbang. Power metal makes my hand automatically look like I'm holding a grapefruit. Black metal is generally going to bring up words like 'evil', 'dark', 'cold' and that track (granted I should listen to at least a few more tracks before I write off that band) didn't make me think of any of those things. It sounded kind of happy actually and that just goes against everything that black metal stands for.

I don't think Mercyful Fate or Venom are black metal artists. I think they had a heavy influence on the genre, just like Slayer and Celtic Frost have as well, but they aren't proper black metal bands. Their lyrics are "evil and mean" and that's really where black metal comes from.

And to answer your question about the atmosphere being evil, YES, absolutely it has to be fucking evil in black metal. Immortal does sound evil, at least their pure black metal output and even their thrashier, later stuff sounds at least a little evil. Enslaved is definitely evil sounding. From the small amount of WITTR I've heard, I'd say they sound evil too.

es156
11-26-2011, 11:58 AM
... and I shall likewise carry on occasionally mis-using the word "hipster" in conversations with Brad just to wind him up ;)

:lol:

DethMaiden
11-26-2011, 06:51 PM
http://www.on-parole.com/shop/28363-31975-large/anaal-nathrakh-passion-lp.jpg
17. Anaal Nathrakh - Passion
(Candlelight Records)

Ho-ly fuck. The first line of "Drug-Fucking Abomination" is the verbal equivalent to the audio that this monster of an album contains. More than In the Constellation of the Black Widow (which I still hold is the superior album), Passion feels like a fusion of every era of Anaal Nathrakh's music. You've got one-minute ragers like "Post Traumatic Stress Euphoria" sitting next to seven-minute mini-epics like "Drug-Fucking Abomination" and uber-melodic tracks like "Paragon Pariah." The craziest track – and therefore the best, considering this is Anaal Nathrakh – is "Tod Huetet Uebel," a four-minute blast with Bethlehem's Rainer Landfermann on vocals. It's been called the music of the victim where the rest of AN's catalogue is the music of the executioner, and that sounds about right. Landfermann gives an inspired performance (albeit one matched often by regular AN howler Dave Hunt elsewhere on the album) and Mick Kenney's riffs are as fucked up as ever. This isn't quite Anaal Nathrakh at their very best, but even their "pretty good" slays most bands' 100%.

"Tod Huetet Uebel" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNMXvC3AGTg)

mankvill
11-26-2011, 10:37 PM
:cool:

DethMaiden
11-27-2011, 03:10 PM
http://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000006684777-ybgmdr-crop.jpg?6f91523
16. Death Grips - Exmilitary
(Third Worlds)

As many of you know, I interned at The Quietus in London over the summer, and I can credit my editors and fellow writers with broadening my musical horizons more than they've been broadened since my initial discovery of music beyond the radio back in 2003. No one record got more spins in that tiny Seven Sisters office than Exmilitary, the debut mixtape by the California noise-rap act Death Grips. One of my editors tweeted from the Quietus account on witnessing Death Grips live that they're more like an industrial noise band with a rapper for a singer than vise versa, and that's basically true of the record, too. MC Ride isn't a lightweight by any stretch of the imagination, and the insanity that he spits on tracks like "Beware," "Guillotine" and "Culture Shock" is uniformly brilliant. He can work himself into a lunatic rage or keep his cool it doesn't matter, he's always on top of his game. But the focus here is still on the crazy beats, the ingenious choices of samples (Black Flag's "Rise Above" on "Klink" leaps to mind immediately), and the incredible live drumming of Hella's Zach Hill. Dude's one of the best drummers in rock n' roll today, and the fact that he's lending his sticks to a hip-hop project says to me that it's something he really believes in. That's only fair. This is a great album from a group that I can't wait to hear more from.

"I Want It I Need It (Death Heated)" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTLaowNxVpA)

mastodon421
11-27-2011, 03:23 PM
I checked out Exmillitary per your reccomendation a couple months back. I thought it was pretty good overall and the beats were amazing. The noise-aspect kind of grated on me at times and there was definitely too much going on with the music. I do commend them on their orginality, I have never heard any hip-hop like it. I plan on listening to it again before the end of the year to see if grows on me.

BloodoftheKings
11-27-2011, 04:42 PM
Exmilitary is great. If the Beastie Boys didn't put out a new album this year it would be the best hip hop release of 2011 by far.

JRA
11-27-2011, 04:47 PM
I've heard amazing things about Exmilitary. I would have gotten it but I forgot who the artist was and what the album was called.

DethMaiden
11-28-2011, 06:19 PM
http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/TheWarOnDrugsSlaveAmbient600Mg110811.jpg
15. The War on Drugs - Slave Ambient
(Secretly Canadian)

Full disclosure: Before I saw The War on Drugs live, this album was sitting around #3 for me. When you get the chance to see a band you're excited about witnessing live and they're a disappointment, it almost necessarily makes you reassess their music. Slave Ambient is still a pretty great album. Its fusion of shoegaze and Springsteen/Petty/Dylan jaundiced Americana is shockingly fresh given how inherently derivative its formula is. Just about every non-interlude track could be a hit single. But the issues with the album, namely how directionless and noodly those interludes tend to be, came out live and made me dock this album a few points. If it tightened things up and trimmed at its fat, this could have AOTY written all over. As it stands, it's a flawed but fascinating album that demands a few taps on the skip button but, crucially, far more spontaneous head-bobs and foot-taps. I know this doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement, but if you haven't seen The War on Drugs live yet, you'll probably love this.

"Brothers" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JB5YLCwgk)

Maiden33
11-28-2011, 06:23 PM
When you get the chance to see a band you're excited about witnessing live and they're a disappointment, it almost necessarily makes you reassess their music.

This phenomenon has seemingly permanently killed a couple of bands for me.

Natrlhi
11-28-2011, 07:59 PM
This phenomenon has seemingly permanently killed a couple of bands for me.I agree, but less strongly. For example, I liked Furnace by NYC's Batillus well enough after the first few spins, but after seeing them live I decided not to buy it (even though it was only ten or twelve bucks, as I recall). I was just listening to the burned copy I have in my car today, and now I wish I had bought it after all. Oh well - there's always the used bin at the local record store in about a year.

Natrlhi
11-28-2011, 08:08 PM
19. Landmine Marathon - Gallows
(Prosthetic Records)

17. Anaal Nathrakh - Passion
(Candlelight Records)

16. Death Grips - Exmilitary
(Third Worlds)
http://www.northwestblues.co.uk/miscimage/bossnass2.jpg
Meesa like'n dees.

DethMaiden
11-29-2011, 06:11 PM
http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/DavidLynchCrazyClownTime600Gb041111.jpg
14. David Lynch - Crazy Clown Time
(Play It Again Sam)

David Lynch is probably my favorite film director, and the soundtracks to his movies are all fascinating, so I was pretty excited -- if cautiously so -- by the prospect of a solo album by the auteur. Like Lynch's films, this album is a harrowing blend of the weird and the mundane. His reedy, vocodered falsetto dominates all the songs except instrumental track "The Night Bell With Lightning" and Karen O-fronted opener "Pinky's Dream," and the soundtrack is mostly a warmly produced electro pop. It's more interesting than most electro pop precisely because it's a David Lynch album, and his visionary artist's voice pervades every note. It's probably not for you if you don't like Lynch's films, but if you do, don't skip this.

"Good Day Today" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IugOfDBWcGc)

powerslave_85
11-29-2011, 06:16 PM
what is this i don't even

DethMaiden
11-29-2011, 06:19 PM
First surprise on the list? :lol:

powerslave_85
11-29-2011, 06:20 PM
No, that was my reaction to listening to the song :lol:

DethMaiden
11-29-2011, 07:00 PM
Gotcha. Well, like I said, if you think Lynchian electro pop sounds cool, you'll dig it, because it's precisely that, but if you don't, it will probably have no value for you.

powerslave_85
11-29-2011, 07:05 PM
If I don't see Wild Flag in one of the next three spots, I'm taking WITTR off my list :hmm: ;)

DethMaiden
11-29-2011, 08:08 PM
If I don't see Wild Flag in one of the next three spots, I'm taking WITTR off my list :hmm: ;)

Might wanna start figuring out how you're going to reshuffle, then... ;)


In all seriousness I liked, but didn't love, Wild Flag.

JRA
11-29-2011, 08:09 PM
If I don't see Wild Flag in one of the next three spots, I'm taking WITTR off my list :hmm: ;)

:lol:

BloodoftheKings
11-29-2011, 08:57 PM
I was curious to hear Crazy Clown Time when I heard about it so I listened to the title track. It was pretty cool but I never bothered to listen to the whole thing. Maybe i'll give a spin sometime soon.

mastodon421
11-30-2011, 04:46 AM
That song was just as bad as Lynch's movies;)

ravenheart
11-30-2011, 04:59 AM
Do I smell fanboyism? I think I do.

DethMaiden
11-30-2011, 07:03 PM
http://papertrailmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Protest-The-Hero-Scurrilous-315x315.jpg
13. Protest the Hero - Scurrilous
(Vagrant Records)

The whole lots-of-notes-prog-metal thing has grown off me a whole lot, and I find most technical death metal and djent and what-have-you unlistenable, but goddamn, this is an impressive group of dudes playing fast, heavy and technically. The whole thing is driven, though, by Rody Walker, the schizophrenic vocalist/lyricist. He's ditched 97% of the harsh vocals and uses Scurrilous as a backdrop to just fucking sing. Every song rules something fierce, and they keep the insanity going for just long enough that it's still tolerable at the end. An hour of this could grate; the 40 minutes they give us doesn't. I don't listen to this quite as often as I used to, but it's no exaggeration to say it was my most-played record of the first half of the year. It's not the very best music of the year, but thanks to Walker's vocal hooks, it's definitely some of the catchiest. Dig this.

"Tandem" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zqoy5v5ukI)

slapguitarer
11-30-2011, 07:07 PM
http://papertrailmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Protest-The-Hero-Scurrilous-315x315.jpg
13. Protest the Hero - Scurrilous
(Vagrant Records)

The whole lots-of-notes-prog-metal thing has grown off me a whole lot, and I find most technical death metal and djent and what-have-you unlistenable, but goddamn, this is an impressive group of dudes playing fast, heavy and technically. The whole thing is driven, though, by Rody Walker, the schizophrenic vocalist/lyricist. He's ditched 97% of the harsh vocals and uses Scurrilous as a backdrop to just fucking sing. Every song rules something fierce, and they keep the insanity going for just long enough that it's still tolerable at the end. An hour of this could grate; the 40 minutes they give us doesn't. I don't listen to this quite as often as I used to, but it's no exaggeration to say it was my most-played record of the first half of the year. It's not the very best music of the year, but thanks to Walker's vocal hooks, it's definitely some of the catchiest. Dig this.

"Tandem" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zqoy5v5ukI)

Y THIS NO TOP 10 D:

Regardless, excellent choice! :rocker:

DethMaiden
12-01-2011, 12:13 PM
No one on here will like the next two. Just wanna get that fair warning out there now. :lol:

hb420
12-01-2011, 12:26 PM
No one on here will like the next two. Just wanna get that fair warning out there now. :lol:

Better not be Hammers of Misfortune,:mad: I want to see that in your top ten at least.:party: I think you and me are the two biggest fans of that CD on this board.

Seventhzealot
12-01-2011, 12:27 PM
http://papertrailmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Protest-The-Hero-Scurrilous-315x315.jpg
13. Protest the Hero - Scurrilous
(Vagrant Records)

The whole lots-of-notes-prog-metal thing has grown off me a whole lot, and I find most technical death metal and djent and what-have-you unlistenable, but goddamn, this is an impressive group of dudes playing fast, heavy and technically. The whole thing is driven, though, by Rody Walker, the schizophrenic vocalist/lyricist. He's ditched 97% of the harsh vocals and uses Scurrilous as a backdrop to just fucking sing. Every song rules something fierce, and they keep the insanity going for just long enough that it's still tolerable at the end. An hour of this could grate; the 40 minutes they give us doesn't. I don't listen to this quite as often as I used to, but it's no exaggeration to say it was my most-played record of the first half of the year. It's not the very best music of the year, but thanks to Walker's vocal hooks, it's definitely some of the catchiest. Dig this.

"Tandem" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zqoy5v5ukI)

That is a fascinating album cover.

DethMaiden
12-01-2011, 12:28 PM
Better not be Hammers of Misfortune,:mad: I want to see that in your top ten at least.:party: I think you and me are the two biggest fans of that CD on this board.

I was stoked to see that so high on yours, man. Love that record. Catch my girlfriend singing "The Grain" all the time. :D

DethMaiden
12-01-2011, 12:29 PM
That is a fascinating album cover.

It's apparently a really famous painting in the Iranian American community, done by the bassist's grandfather.

hb420
12-01-2011, 12:47 PM
I was stoked to see that so high on yours, man. Love that record. Catch my girlfriend singing "The Grain" all the time. :D

Hell yeah that's awesome man. :fist: Like you had said in another thread, there really is no reason for them not to be loved by everyone. They compact everything awesome about 70s and 80s rock/metal into their sound.

DethMaiden
12-01-2011, 09:37 PM
http://www.tradebit.com/usr/mp3-album/pub/9002/148/148337/148337397.jpg
12. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
(4AD)

St. Vincent (aka Annie Clark) is one of my favorite indie acts on the planet, and one of the earlier ones I got into. I loved her last record, Actor, but I think I like Strange Mercy even more because it sees her playing more electric guitar. That woman pulls some crazy Robert Fripp-sounding shit out of her amp, and there's something really aesthetically appealing about a beautiful woman in a white dress playing heavy guitar music. Her lyrics are just as great (and nearly terrifying) as always. Take a gem like the hook to the title track: "If I ever meet that dirty policeman who roughed you up/Oh, I don't know what..." There's plenty of great Third Generation Kate Bush pretty female vocal indie here, but what really makes Strange Mercy scream is the guitar. I love this fucking album. Also, I don't really recommend any of you listen to it.

"Dilettante" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894MYqeAzIo)

mastodon421
12-02-2011, 12:42 PM
That record is amongst my indie-loving friend faves of the year. Not my cup of tea, but she is very talented.

illuminatus917
12-02-2011, 02:18 PM
If it's similar to Kate Bush I'm pretty sure I'd like it...

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 08:11 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-US_XLmLBm5w/Tsozrh0bCpI/AAAAAAAADlw/ZGF6J64b6Fo/s400/KateBush50WordsForSnow600Gb120911.jpg
11. Kate Bush - 50 Words for Snow
(Fish People/EMI)

This album has my favorite production of the year. Lush and dense even when it's just piano and vocals and a full-on intergalactic orchestra when Bush adds layers, it's the best-sounding record of 2011 by far. The songs themselves aren't far behind. They're extremely concrete, and each of the seven serves as a short story set to music. It's also my new favorite Christmastime album. It's nice to have music evoke winter so beautifully without name-dropping Jesus and/or Santa. It's not a cold record, though. The production gives it so much warmth that perhaps it's more the equivalent to witnessing a snowy scene out your window while you sit by a blazing fireplace. Deceptively, many of the highlights are the duets (including the unbelievably good "Snowed in at Wheeler Street" with Elton John), but this album is all about Kate Bush. As a singer, songwriter, instrumentalist, and producer, she's having a late-career epiphany. This album doesn't sound like "Wuthering Heights," but would this really be art-rock if it did?

"Snowed in at Wheeler Street" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am78PQI-fH0)

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 08:15 AM
And just to recap, since I'll be starting the top 10 later today after missing yesterday:

25. Lionize - Destruction Manual
24. Darkest Hour - The Human Romance
23. Deafheaven - Roads to Judah
22. Mournful Congregation - The Book of Kings
21. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
20. Mastodon - The Hunter
19. Landmine Marathon - Gallows
18. Liturgy - Aesthethica
17. Anaal Nathrakh - Passion
16. Death Grips - Exmilitary
15. The War on Drugs - Slave Ambient
14. David Lynch - Crazy Clown Time
13. Protest the Hero - Scurrilous
12. St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
11. Kate Bush - 50 Words for Snow

ChildrenofSodom
12-03-2011, 09:49 AM
I don't "get" St. Vincent and Kate Bush. Granted, I haven't listened to many of their songs...No hate here, just fail to see what the x factor is that sets them apart.

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 11:05 AM
I don't "get" St. Vincent and Kate Bush. Granted, I haven't listened to many of their songs...No hate here, just fail to see what the x factor is that sets them apart.

In a nutshell, songwriting.

ChildrenofSodom
12-03-2011, 11:30 AM
In a nutshell, songwriting.

That explains it. I've mentioned it before, but music occupies a different sphere of my life nowadays. The few songs I've heard are audibly pleasant, and I could probably put it on in the background, but I don't have the time/attention to really soak it in. Acoustic Verses by Green Carnation is probably the only album I can really sit down with these days.

(Side note: please tell me Vader is still to come.)

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 11:35 AM
(Side note: please tell me Vader is still to come.)

Erm...I won't tell you they aren't, if it helps? :snivel:

mankvill
12-03-2011, 11:39 AM
My predictions, in no order:

Hammers of Misfortune
Fucked Up
Vader
Wolves In The Throne Room
Anthrax
SubRosa
Rwake
Altar of Plagues
Burzum
Evergrey

:fist:

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 11:59 AM
WELL YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WON'T YOU

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 01:31 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-urjvOQ9RlfY/Trlc6foldcI/AAAAAAAAHNY/iOIM3HDDvJc/s1600/316605.jpg
10. Leviathan - True Traitor, True Whore
(Profound Lore)

If I had to make a list of albums I hate myself for loving, this would have to be near the top. Leviathan aka Wrest aka Jef Whitehead allegedly sexually assaulted his unconscious ex-girlfriend with tattooing tools, and this none-too-subtle album is his response to her accusations. Now, the case hasn't gone to court yet, and I'm in favor of innocent until proven guilty, but you're not exactly fighting accusations of misogyny when you call your album True Traitor, True Whore and have songs on it with titles like "Her Circle Is the Noose" and "Every Orifice Yawning Her Price." I hope Whitehead is innocent of the crimes he's been accused of, but if he isn't, I'm almost definitely going to have to reassess this record. That being said, with all moral qualms aside, he did write eight of the best black metal songs of the year. The album is vaguely psychedelic without falling into latter-day Nachtmystium territory, and despite Whitehead going on and on in the pages of Decibel about how black metal has nothing to do with "this transcendental shit from Brooklyn or Wolves in the whatever," it kind of totally does. This is lo-fi (though still pretty sharp since Sanford Parker is behind the knobs) but it's also big on atmosphere. Maybe it's not full-on majesty and grandeur, but this isn't quite as ugly as its title and its creator's attitude suggest. Putting this album inside my top ten feels a little controversial, since most writers who liked it at one point have since cut it from their lists after being unable to get over Whitehead's rapey, black metal frat boy vibe. I don't like him as a personality, but he is one of the most important figures in USBM, and this just might be his masterpiece.

"Every Orifice Yawning Her Price" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxVyo_CLR4)

hb420
12-03-2011, 01:43 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-urjvOQ9RlfY/Trlc6foldcI/AAAAAAAAHNY/iOIM3HDDvJc/s1600/316605.jpg
10. Leviathan - True Traitor, True Whore
(Profound Lore)

If I had to make a list of albums I hate myself for loving, this would have to be near the top. Leviathan aka Wrest aka Jef Whitehead allegedly sexually assaulted his unconscious ex-girlfriend with tattooing tools, and this none-too-subtle album is his response to her accusations. Now, the case hasn't gone to court yet, and I'm in favor of innocent until proven guilty, but you're not exactly fighting accusations of misogyny when you call your album True Traitor, True Whore and have songs on it with titles like "Her Circle Is the Noose" and "Every Orifice Yawning Her Price." I hope Whitehead is innocent of the crimes he's been accused of, but if he isn't, I'm almost definitely going to have to reassess this record. That being said, with all moral qualms aside, he did write eight of the best black metal songs of the year. The album is vaguely psychedelic without falling into latter-day Nachtmystium territory, and despite Whitehead going on and on in the pages of Decibel about how black metal has nothing to do with "this transcendental shit from Brooklyn or Wolves in the whatever," it kind of totally does. This is lo-fi (though still pretty sharp since Sanford Parker is behind the knobs) but it's also big on atmosphere. Maybe it's not full-on majesty and grandeur, but this isn't quite as ugly as its title and its creator's attitude suggest. Putting this album inside my top ten feels a little controversial, since most writers who liked it at one point have since cut it from their lists after being unable to get over Whitehead's rapey, black metal frat boy vibe. I don't like him as a personality, but he is one of the most important figures in USBM, and this just might be his masterpiece.

"Every Orifice Yawning Her Price" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxVyo_CLR4)

Great pick, the album is indeed really good. Brought Up To The Bottom is the best black metal song released this year. In the end while releasing a great collection of expertly written black metal though, the album really doesn't flow that great imo. Its more like a bunch of great songs, than an album. That's the only thing that stopped it from getting on my list.

powerslave_85
12-03-2011, 02:18 PM
I'm just gonna hold my tongue on this one.

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 03:31 PM
I'm just gonna hold my tongue on this one.

Arguably, you just did the opposite of that. ;)

If you're ready to concede that "Rosemary's Baby" and "Chinatown" shouldn't be watched, then I'll concede that Leviathan and Burzum shouldn't be listened to. :tongue:

ChildrenofSodom
12-03-2011, 05:49 PM
http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/hitlerpaintings/hitlerart2.jpg

I mean, it's a pretty good painting, if you ask me.

Edit - tongue-in-cheek, of course.

JRA
12-03-2011, 06:02 PM
Varg didn't rape anybody. :eyes:

MPF
12-03-2011, 06:03 PM
Varg didn't rape anybody. :eyes:

What happens in Prison stays in Prison.

treghet
12-03-2011, 06:09 PM
:lol:

Seventhzealot
12-03-2011, 06:18 PM
http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/images/hitlerpaintings/hitlerart2.jpg

I mean, it's a pretty good painting, if you ask me.

Edit - tongue-in-cheek, of course.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /gpa/images/hitlerpaintings/hitlerart2.jpg on this server.

I get this message when I try to open that jpg :eyes:

JRA
12-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Also, Chinatown isn't really a rape based movie. It's a plot detail, but when I think of movies that are difficult to defend because of sexual violence, I think of Clockwork Orange, Last House On The Left and I Spit on Your Grave.

powerslave_85
12-03-2011, 06:23 PM
Also, Chinatown isn't really a rape based movie. It's a plot detail, but when I think of movies that are difficult to defend because of sexual violence, I think of Clockwork Orange, Last House On The Left and I Spit on Your Grave.
He meant that they are both Roman Polanski movies.

JRA
12-03-2011, 06:26 PM
He meant that they are both Roman Polanski movies.

Oh. HAHA DISREGARD THAT

mankvill
12-03-2011, 07:10 PM
>some people can't separate art from the artist

oh you!

ChildrenofSodom
12-03-2011, 07:22 PM
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /gpa/images/hitlerpaintings/hitlerart2.jpg on this server.

I get this message when I try to open that jpg :eyes:

Damn Nazis...

DethMaiden
12-03-2011, 10:26 PM
http://reigninart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Rwake-Rest.jpg
9. Rwake - Rest
(Relapse)

Rwake's Voices of Omens was the first album I ever listened to on a very good pair of headphones, and it was an epiphany. The twisting, turning backwoods sludge attack of the Little Rock acid-droppers was about all my skull could handle. Now they've gone and outdone themselves with Rest, which might be the best sludge metal album ever recorded. With six tracks of drug-induced greatness, including three that stretch beyond the 11-minute mark, Rest is somehow even more terrifying than Voices of Omens. In fact, listening to it now on way too little sleep so I can write this blurb is sort of freaking me out. Vocalist C.T. is a madman sounding his barbaric yawp over the rooftops of the world while on a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers and laughers, and the heavy-as-balls Lynyrd Skynyrd riffs and leads that snake their way through the record are simply infectious. Skip this one at your peril.

"It Was Beautiful But Now It's Sour" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXE2WbmznUU)

DethMaiden
12-04-2011, 08:05 PM
No one heard this? You guys have shitty taste.

illuminatus917
12-04-2011, 08:07 PM
I heard it. Did nothing for me.

DethMaiden
12-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Then may I direct you to the second sentence of my above post. ;)

illuminatus917
12-04-2011, 08:12 PM
:lol:

Doom/sludge walks a fine line with me. I usually either really dig it, or really don't. Not much middle ground. Elder and Witch Mountain were two others that fell in the "really don't dig it" category.

larvtard
12-04-2011, 08:15 PM
No one heard this? You guys have shitty taste.

I didn't want to ruin it for my top ten list, but yeah, I fucking love this album so much. Probably the best sludge/doom record I've ever heard, too. "It Was Beautiful and Now It's Sour" is beautiful and not really sour by any means. I've stopped smoking weed, and after last night I doubt I'll miss it, but what I will miss is this song after smoking a whole blunt with four other people after smoking four other times in the past eight hours.

hb420
12-04-2011, 08:18 PM
No one heard this? You guys have shitty taste.

Like you said it's their best album yet. Adding that progressive element along with a huge Neurosis influence (apocalyptic post-ish metal) really stretched out their sound to a massive new height. Even though its just four huge epic songs and two interludes, I think it flows better than anything they've written before. The leads and solos are so much more awesome too. :drool:

larvtard
12-04-2011, 08:28 PM
No one heard this? You guys have shitty taste.

So you complain when nobody replies to the post, then when people finally say they agree with your post, you don't reply?

DethMaiden
12-04-2011, 08:29 PM
So you complain when nobody replies to the post, then when people finally say they agree with your post, you don't reply?

I'm glad you stopped smoking weed and like Rwake, Logan.

larvtard
12-04-2011, 08:31 PM
I'm glad you stopped smoking weed and like Rwake, Logan.

I mean, I thought it'd be courteous to acknowledge the people that acknowledge your posts.

masterguy49
12-04-2011, 08:31 PM
No one heard this? You guys have shitty taste.

I heard it and I fucking love it. Though it needs more listens, this shit kicks major ass. :rocker:

DethMaiden
12-04-2011, 08:32 PM
:lol: Just didn't have much to say. I am legitimately glad that people on this board are into Rwake because they're an amazing band, but yeah, just don't have a lot more to build on.

larvtard
12-04-2011, 08:41 PM
:lol: Just didn't have much to say. I am legitimately glad that people on this board are into Rwake because they're an amazing band, but yeah, just don't have a lot more to build on.

All right. Sorry if I overreacted.

Arman - you're a stoner so next time you blaze listen to this album. You'll probably start crying ;)

Maiden33
12-04-2011, 08:48 PM
Evergrey

Sadly I know the answer to this one. :bouville:

mankvill
12-04-2011, 10:16 PM
I got Rwake confused with Bison BC so I was pretty upset when I saw Bison a few months ago while expecting Rwake. :(

Epidemic Reign
12-04-2011, 10:20 PM
How do you pronounce 'Rwake'?

masterguy49
12-04-2011, 11:21 PM
All right. Sorry if I overreacted.

Arman - you're a stoner so next time you blaze listen to this album. You'll probably start crying ;)

We has a discussion on this already!
WHY DONT YOU EVER LISTEN TO ME

DethMaiden
12-05-2011, 05:10 AM
How do you pronounce 'Rwake'?

"Wake"

ravenheart
12-05-2011, 05:23 AM
"Wake"

Interesting. I was going with "awake".

I used to assume "rake", but that's clearly not it.

Seventhzealot
12-05-2011, 10:22 AM
Hmm my guess was 'Arrwake'.

Maiden33
12-05-2011, 10:25 AM
Yeah, my guess was "Rawake", haha

mastodon421
12-05-2011, 01:07 PM
Hmm my guess was 'Arrwake'.

Mine as well. Brad, I'm glad you cleared that up. I was always curious how it was pronounced.

Epidemic Reign
12-05-2011, 01:13 PM
I was kind of hoping it was something crazy like "Erwahkee"

AT LEAST NOW WE KNOW

DethMaiden
12-05-2011, 05:43 PM
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/05/Bon-Iver-Bon-Iver-Bon-Iver.jpg
8. Bon Iver - Bon Iver, Bon Iver
(Jagjaguwar)

I suppose I should raise my flame shield, but this is one of the best albums of the year, and that's coming from a guy who absolutely hates For Emma, Forever Ago and Blood Bank. Whereas Bon Iver used to quite literally be a vanity solo project for Justin Vernon (my Quietus boss referred to the weepy For Emma as the album where "a bloke goes to a shed and has a cry"), this double-self-titled effort sees him bringing a lot more musicians and singers into the fold. Everything is better here, from the vocals to the instrumentation to the arrangements to the songwriting to the aesthetics. It's an album with mostly nonsense lyrics, which I think is brilliant; Vernon is concerned with the sound of language, the form over the function, the possibility of making the most beautiful sounds possible even when that means eschewing conventional technique. That philosophy carries into the music, too. There's more than just delicately fingerpicked acoustic guitar here. Even in the prettiest moments ("Holocene" was given the hashtag #occupyinexpressiblebeauty by Pitchfork editor and resident metalhead Brandon Stosuy), Vernon throws noisy curveballs and lets tension roil beneath the surface of the mix. If you don't get it, you're not gonna, and I don't really expect to have a lot of allies on this one, but yeah, I absolutely love Bon Iver, Bon Iver. And yes, to address the most obvious demerit, "Beth/Rest" does sound like a Michael Bolton song, but even it has its place in my rotation from time to time.

"Holocene" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCPAO3bp4Q)

powerslave_85
12-05-2011, 06:05 PM
*takes deep breath*

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSTTTTTTTEEEEERRRR RRRRRRR

Rocco44
12-05-2011, 07:14 PM
Love that album. Most likely in my top 10.

I also really like that Rwake album, so props on liking both.

DethMaiden
12-06-2011, 05:46 PM
http://junkgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sub-rosa-nhftmo.jpg?w=500&h=500
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

In the journalism school at IU, we're taught not to use the words "unique" when "distinctive" will suffice because very few things are truly unique. SubRosa are fucking unique. A majority female doom metal band from Utah with two lead electric violinists. I've never heard a record quite like this one, and even though it sounds like a gimmick, it really isn't. This is crushing doom metal, through and through. They really make their unconventional setup work for them, and the triple vocal attack of Rebecca Vernon, Kim Pack, and Sarah Pendleton really shines, especially with their low notes. Speaking of low notes, turn this up loud enough on a decent set of speakers and the bass will literally rip your intestines out through your asshole. It's possibly the heaviest album of the year and certainly one of the best.

"Whippoorwill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjeXsw9xNQ)

Seventhzealot
12-06-2011, 05:59 PM
http://junkgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sub-rosa-nhftmo.jpg?w=500&h=500
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

In the journalism school at IU, we're taught not to use the words "unique" when "distinctive" will suffice because very few things are truly unique. SubRosa are fucking unique. A majority female doom metal band from Utah with two lead electric violinists. I've never heard a record quite like this one, and even though it sounds like a gimmick, it really isn't. This is crushing doom metal, through and through. They really make their unconventional setup work for them, and the triple vocal attack of Rebecca Vernon, Kim Pack, and Sarah Pendleton really shines, especially with their low notes. Speaking of low notes, turn this up loud enough on a decent set of speakers and the bass will literally rip your intestines out through your asshole. It's possibly the heaviest album of the year and certainly one of the best.

"Whippoorwill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjeXsw9xNQ)

Great pick. As you said this might be the heaviest album of the year. Its going to be pretty high on my list too. Profound Lore really know how to find good musicians.

masterguy49
12-06-2011, 06:08 PM
I listened to the Bon Iver album today due to my friend also having it in his top 10. I'm not going to lie that album is fucking beautiful, I love it. Hipster or not, it kicks ass! :fist:

Also I really need to check out SubRosa.

street_burial
12-06-2011, 06:16 PM
http://junkgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sub-rosa-nhftmo.jpg?w=500&h=500
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

In the journalism school at IU, we're taught not to use the words "unique" when "distinctive" will suffice because very few things are truly unique. SubRosa are fucking unique. A majority female doom metal band from Utah with two lead electric violinists. I've never heard a record quite like this one, and even though it sounds like a gimmick, it really isn't. This is crushing doom metal, through and through. They really make their unconventional setup work for them, and the triple vocal attack of Rebecca Vernon, Kim Pack, and Sarah Pendleton really shines, especially with their low notes. Speaking of low notes, turn this up loud enough on a decent set of speakers and the bass will literally rip your intestines out through your asshole. It's possibly the heaviest album of the year and certainly one of the best.

"Whippoorwill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjeXsw9xNQ)

I liked it but my problem with it was the such low volume for the vocals, they were very hard to hear and on some points could not even hear them at all. I downloaded it from mediafire which usually has good quality so I'm not sure if it was just the copy i downloaded or what...

illuminatus917
12-06-2011, 06:18 PM
I liked it but my problem with it was the such low volume for the vocals, they were very hard to hear and on some points could not even hear them at all. I downloaded it from mediafire which usually has good quality so I'm not sure if it was just the copy i downloaded or what...

Vocals on that record are pristine.

Dextrimental
12-06-2011, 06:20 PM
SubRosa record is amazing, really unique sound alright.

street_burial
12-06-2011, 06:27 PM
Vocals on that record are pristine.

time to download another copy

slapguitarer
12-06-2011, 07:06 PM
http://junkgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sub-rosa-nhftmo.jpg?w=500&h=500
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

In the journalism school at IU, we're taught not to use the words "unique" when "distinctive" will suffice because very few things are truly unique. SubRosa are fucking unique. A majority female doom metal band from Utah with two lead electric violinists. I've never heard a record quite like this one, and even though it sounds like a gimmick, it really isn't. This is crushing doom metal, through and through. They really make their unconventional setup work for them, and the triple vocal attack of Rebecca Vernon, Kim Pack, and Sarah Pendleton really shines, especially with their low notes. Speaking of low notes, turn this up loud enough on a decent set of speakers and the bass will literally rip your intestines out through your asshole. It's possibly the heaviest album of the year and certainly one of the best.

"Whippoorwill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjeXsw9xNQ)

This masterpiece is also in my Top 10. :fist:

Natrlhi
12-06-2011, 07:06 PM
http://junkgod.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/sub-rosa-nhftmo.jpg?w=500&h=500
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

In the journalism school at IU, we're taught not to use the words "unique" when "distinctive" will suffice because very few things are truly unique. SubRosa are fucking unique. A majority female doom metal band from Utah with two lead electric violinists. I've never heard a record quite like this one, and even though it sounds like a gimmick, it really isn't. This is crushing doom metal, through and through. They really make their unconventional setup work for them, and the triple vocal attack of Rebecca Vernon, Kim Pack, and Sarah Pendleton really shines, especially with their low notes. Speaking of low notes, turn this up loud enough on a decent set of speakers and the bass will literally rip your intestines out through your asshole. It's possibly the heaviest album of the year and certainly one of the best.

"Whippoorwill" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjeXsw9xNQ):lovedup:

Great pick. As you said this might be the heaviest album of the year. Its going to be pretty high on my list too. Profound Lore really know how to find good musicians.Exactly.

time to buy this fucking albumFixed that for ya.


EDIT:

...and also this.

This masterpiece is also in my Top 10. :fist:

DethMaiden
12-08-2011, 07:24 AM
http://www.burzum.org/img/covers/big/official/2011_fallen.jpg
6. Burzum - Fallen
(Byelebog)

With Leviathan at 10 and this here, I've officially lost all my ethical listening points. It's hard to care when Burzum has put out its best record since at least Filosofem and possibly since Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. This is the sound of Varg at least sorta making good on his claims that Burzum makes not black metal but "distorted European folk." This is undoubtedly a black metal album, arguably one of the blackest of the year, but it also has surprising chants that double as the first real vocal hooks in Burzum history. "Ah-ah-ah-ah, jeg faller" and "Og igjen, og igjen, og igjen" are the only times outside of Kvelertak the Norwegian language have been stuck in my head for days at a time. Each song is completely distinct from every other with memorably riffs and vocal parts and arrangements that set them apart, something that even the finest Burzum of the past couldn't totally claim. That being said, the album is remarkably cohesive, and picking out highlights is difficult since I'm not sure I've ever listened to it any other way than straight through. Every song is brilliant, and it's nice to see that a 16-year prison sentence didn't put Varg out of touch with the black metal world so much as reinvigorated his drive and showed that, even done the old-school way, black metal is the most exciting genre in the world.

"Jeg Faller" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt9Vvj1ZEOQ)

Seventhzealot
12-08-2011, 07:39 AM
http://www.burzum.org/img/covers/big/official/2011_fallen.jpg
6. Burzum - Fallen
(Byelebog)

With Leviathan at 10 and this here, I've officially lost all my ethical listening points. It's hard to care when Burzum has put out its best record since at least Filosofem and possibly since Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. This is the sound of Varg at least sorta making good on his claims that Burzum makes not black metal but "distorted European folk." This is undoubtedly a black metal album, arguably one of the blackest of the year, but it also has surprising chants that double as the first real vocal hooks in Burzum history. "Ah-ah-ah-ah, jeg faller" and "Og igjen, og igjen, og igjen" are the only times outside of Kvelertak the Norwegian language have been stuck in my head for days at a time. Each song is completely distinct from every other with memorably riffs and vocal parts and arrangements that set them apart, something that even the finest Burzum of the past couldn't totally claim. That being said, the album is remarkably cohesive, and picking out highlights is difficult since I'm not sure I've ever listened to it any other way than straight through. Every song is brilliant, and it's nice to see that a 16-year prison sentence didn't put Varg out of touch with the black metal world so much as reinvigorated his drive and showed that, even done the old-school way, black metal is the most exciting genre in the world.

"Jeg Faller" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt9Vvj1ZEOQ)

I liked this album a lot and yes it is quite folky especially with the chants behind the distorted guitars. Pretty good record and that track is my favorite from the album too :D

treghet
12-08-2011, 07:40 AM
Varg has always said his music isn't suited for being played live, but I think "Jeg Faller" would be incredible live. Then again, Varg says a lot of shit that doesn't make sense.

Also, I'm not the biggest Burzum fan, but I think the change in direction worked out great and was much needed. Belus marked the return of the Burzum we knew and Fallen is a natural progression from it. It retains the classic style and raw production while adding tinges of folk inspired melodies.

ravenheart
12-08-2011, 07:43 AM
7. SubRosa - No Help for the Mighty Ones
(Profound Lore)

Why weren't you around when I needed their 2008 album reviewed? I think it ended up in the trash...

illuminatus917
12-08-2011, 09:14 AM
It retains the classic style and raw production

One of the most prevalent cons I read about it was its being overproduced...

Seventhzealot
12-08-2011, 09:23 AM
One of the most prevalent cons I read about it was its being overproduced...

I guess by Burzum standards you could say it was overproduced but in comparison to a lot of the contemporary black metal releases, it was rather raw and harsh.

treghet
12-08-2011, 02:48 PM
One of the most prevalent cons I read about it was its being overproduced...

I guess by Burzum standards you could say it was overproduced but in comparison to a lot of the contemporary black metal releases, it was rather raw and harsh.

Yes, that is what I meant. It's obviously cleaner than past Burzum releases but if you compare it to something like Immortal's All Shall Fall you can't tell me it doesn't feel raw.

SomewhereInTime72
12-08-2011, 08:10 PM
I personally don't have Burzum in my top 10 but I did really like that album. Really good imo, and really good song choice with Jeg Faller :fist:.

ChildrenofSodom
12-08-2011, 09:03 PM
I loved Fallen. Its on my top 10 list as year. Helped me really get into black metal this year.

DethMaiden
12-09-2011, 06:02 AM
http://www.nocleansinging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Altar-of-Plagues-Mammal-PL-version.jpg
5. Altar of Plagues - Mammal
(Profound Lore)

More black metal? Hard to believe, right? This band has been called the decay to Wolves in the Throne Room's majesty, and I couldn't agree more. Just as huge an atmosphere as that great band, but made to sound bleak and dark rather than gorgeously elegant. When WITTR confront evil, they win, but with AOP, evil prevails. These four cuts are some of the most epic black metal of the year, not least of all because every song exceeds the 8 minute mark with the average coming in around 13. For its obscurity, there's more catchy bits than you'd expect. "Neptune Is Dead" and "Feather and Bone" have about three riffs apiece that get stuck in my head constantly. The production is clean enough that everything is audible but still comes out incredibly ugly, which is probably my favorite kind of production for black metal. Then, of course, there's "When the Sun Drowns in the Ocean," a dark track built around keening, a Gaelic funerary vocal style that sounds somewhere between throat-singing and loudly weeping. It's a weird, bold song to throw right in the middle of your black metal opus, but it totally works. This is the best album thus far by a band who has yet to make anything that doesn't rule. Don't skip it.

"Neptune Is Dead" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6znr0VOGQ)

Seventhzealot
12-09-2011, 10:16 AM
http://www.nocleansinging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Altar-of-Plagues-Mammal-PL-version.jpg
5. Altar of Plagues - Mammal
(Profound Lore)

More black metal? Hard to believe, right? This band has been called the decay to Wolves in the Throne Room's majesty, and I couldn't agree more. Just as huge an atmosphere as that great band, but made to sound bleak and dark rather than gorgeously elegant. When WITTR confront evil, they win, but with AOP, evil prevails. These four cuts are some of the most epic black metal of the year, not least of all because every song exceeds the 8 minute mark with the average coming in around 13. For its obscurity, there's more catchy bits than you'd expect. "Neptune Is Dead" and "Feather and Bone" have about three riffs apiece that get stuck in my head constantly. The production is clean enough that everything is audible but still comes out incredibly ugly, which is probably my favorite kind of production for black metal. Then, of course, there's "When the Sun Drowns in the Ocean," a dark track built around keening, a Gaelic funerary vocal style that sounds somewhere between throat-singing and loudly weeping. It's a weird, bold song to throw right in the middle of your black metal opus, but it totally works. This is the best album thus far by a band who has yet to make anything that doesn't rule. Don't skip it.

"Neptune Is Dead" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi6znr0VOGQ)

Good pick.

Natrlhi
12-09-2011, 03:07 PM
I liked this album a lot and yes it is quite folky especially with the chants behind the distorted guitars. Pretty good record and that track is my favorite from the album too :DThis.

SomewhereInTime72
12-09-2011, 07:02 PM
Mammal is probably my favorite Black Metal album from this year. Good choice.

DethMaiden
12-10-2011, 07:46 AM
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4. PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
(Vagrant)

I can't say enough good things about this album, and on this board, most of them couldn't fall on deafer ears. PJ Harvey's 10th album is possibly her mellowest yet in terms of instrumentation (lots of autoharp and acoustic guitar) but undoubtedly her heaviest in terms of lyrics and atmosphere. This is a loose concept album, every song some take on World War I, be it from the policymakers or the people in the trenches, and a lot of it reminds me of the poetry of Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon. It's a biting satire, too, with every drop of ink spilled ostensibly in tribute to England filled with ironic barbs. Beyond that, the songwriting is terrific. 12 songs, only one crossing the five-minute mark, each constructed tightly with no fat left to trim. It's an inspiring exercise in restraint on an album whose concept alone could have made it feel bloated. Another thing worth pointing out here is the samples, which are the best I've ever heard on a non-hip hop release. The title track samples "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" for its main melody, "The Glorious Land" overlays a battlefield fanfare totally contrary to the song's beat to comment on how war rarely fits in with life in a convenient way, "Written on the Forehead" samples reggae anthem "Blood and Fire" so integrally that it sounds like Niney was in the studio with her recording the part. I won't tell just any metalhead to check this out, but if you're in the mood for harrowing atmosphere brought by another kind of music entirely, I can't recommend it enough.

"Written on the Forehead" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUWp1iBeOS0)

powerslave_85
12-10-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm hereby begging your forgiveness for sleeping on this album. Holy fuck this is good.

Epidemic Reign
12-10-2011, 10:08 PM
Listened to that PJ Harvey track you linked, good stuff. I can definitely appreciate your taste outside of metal. Not to say that you have bad taste in metal :tongue:

DethMaiden
12-10-2011, 11:52 PM
I'm hereby begging your forgiveness for sleeping on this album. Holy fuck this is good.

You're forgiven, but only because I don't think I ever specifically recommended it to you. ;)

DethMaiden
12-11-2011, 08:17 AM
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3. Hammers of Misfortune - 17th Street
(Metal Blade)

I was as bummed as anybody about the breakup of proggy USBM stalwarts Ludicra, whose album The Tenant was my favorite of last year, but it's pretty clear that Hammers of Misfortune is where John Cobbett's focus is now. And rightly so, if 17th Street is the kind of quality we can get used to. In the past, this band was always a pretty solid step down from Slough Feg in their execution of this whole Lizzy-indebted trad metal thing, but this brings them up to speed. In blending some the prog rock they explored on 2008's Fields/Church of Broken Glass with straight-up classic heavy metal, they wrote nine of the best songs of 2011, each one crawling with soaring vocal hooks and meaty riffs and twin leads and everything else that makes your old Priest and Maiden records great. Cobbett's lyrics are great, too, a mix of personal and political that blurs the two as often as they should coming from a guy who has been as fucked by the system as him. Put this on and hurt your voice trying to sing along.

"The Grain" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ljH3wmbxc)

DethMaiden
12-12-2011, 07:54 PM
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2. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage
(Southern Lord)

Black metal is my favorite genre, and with this release, Wolves in the Throne Room may have solidified their position as my favorite black metal band. Even more so than everything else in their already storied career, Celestial Lineage is simply epic. Every song is gigantic. Jessika Kinney returns to lend vocals to "Thuja Magus Imperium" and "Woodland Cathedral," which she sings alone. The riffs, drumming, synths, black metal vocals and overall prevailing atmosphere are what make the record the monster it is. I've written so much about this band this year that I don't know what else I can really say about this record, just that you should hear it if you have a passing interest in black metal. Or even if you don't, really. It's a good gateway album. Hear it.

"Thuja Magus Imperium" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AdfkejJDao)

mankvill
12-12-2011, 07:59 PM
:lovedup:

GarageMetal468
12-12-2011, 08:01 PM
I still need to listen to this band :eyes: