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TheClairvoyant
09-22-2011, 12:20 PM
I rarely post on this site, however I always check the forums for the concert reviews etc. However, I thought I'd review the new Mastodon album (Who are one of my favourite bands). Anyway, you may know that the album has been leaked online, as well as the band uploading the whole album, you can view it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffWVlG8rK9k

Now, this type of review will be a track-by-track kind of the review. This is also my first album review on this site (I've only done a few concert reviews), so if it's shit, cut me some slack guys, anyway, here we go. :rocker:

Black Tongue - Most of you must of heard this track by now since it was uploaded by mastodon about a month ago, anyway, the track is a beast, Troy's vocals really shine in this song, great riffs, fantastic vocals, as well as an awesome solo. - 9/10

Curl of the Burl - You may have already heard this song as well, it's a love or hate song, for myself, I love it, the chorus is one of the catchiest chorus's I've ever heard in a long time, but most people claim it's to soft and commercial, I say, fuck you, it's awesome. I can also seeing this being a hell of a good sing-a-long track when they preform it live. - 9.5

Blasteroids - A rather fun, groovy, metal song. Some very interesting views on here, and one hell of a crazy chorus. Great song, not one of the best ones of the album, but a lot of fun. - 8/10

Stargasm - This song litreally gave me a 'stargasm', from an epic opening, with some fucking awesome vocals and riffing from Brent on this one, (yeah he no longer sounds like a dying cat, as most people said), I can't wait to see this one live, I can see the 'YOU'RE ON FIREEEEEEE' part being a truly awesome moment live. - 9.5

Octopus Has No Friends - A ridiculous name of a track, but that doesn't stop this song from being pretty damn good, it's another fun track with some great riffs and some unusual vocals from Brahn. - 8/10

All The Heavy Lifting - God damn I love that chorus, 'JUST CLOSEEE YOUR EYESSS, AND PRETEND EVERYTHINGSSSS FINEEEEEEE!', great stuff. - 9/10

The Hunter - The title track is a rather soft mellow song while Brent sings most of the song, excellent melody, fantastic vocals, some of the best guitar work Mastodon has ever done. - 9/10

Dry Bone Valley - Another beast of the song, the chorus I can see being another epic moment while live, and it also has a pretty damn cool solo. - 9/10

Thickening - You need to be in the right mood for this track, (preferably high), another fantastic mellow/semi-heavy track which is damn fucking good. - 8.5/10

Creature Lives - This is a very very unusual track, from a very odd intro to another very odd second half, it's very hard to explain this track, I had to get really high to start loving it, but then again, it wont be for everyone. - 8/10

Spectrelight - You guys might have already heard this one since it was released by Mastodon a couple of weeks ago, you can clearly tell this song is very similar to Mastodon's early work, (It sounds like it could easily be on Leviathan or Blood Mountain). Very fast riff, awesome aggressive vocals from Troy, great sing-a-long chorus, what more could you ask for? - 9.5/10

Bedazzled Fingernails - Another odd title track, this track is very sludgy with some great vocals and awesome guitar work, quite unusual for mastodon when you first listen to it, but I'm sure I'll and you guy's will grow to love it. - 8/10

The Sparrow - Wow.. just wow.. If anybody know's how to end a fantastic album with a fantastic song, it defiantly Mastodon. This is not your usual heavy/aggressive Mastodon track, it's very strong, very mellow. This however, does not stop it from being possibly my favourite track from the album, the vocals are terrific, the melody and guitar work from Bill and Brent is just magnificent, an the lead vocals from Brahn are just unbelievable. You can also see some Pink Floyd influence here. Possibly one of my favourite songs to listen to when I get high now :allan:. - 10/10

Overall - 9.5

So that's my review on the new Mastodon album, it may be a little rusty and not quite as good as some other people's reviews, but hey, just listening to the album and fucking enjoy it just like I did! :rocker:

Some may say that this album is a lot more commercial and not as heavy as their older stuff, but I seriously suggest any metal fan should check this album out, it's not as in-depth as 'Crack The Sky' was, or as heavy as 'Remission and Leviathan', but wow.. just wow.. check this album out guys, it's definantly one of the best albums of the year. Just sit down, relax, and smoke some weed (That's if you do, believe me, it makes the album 10 times better then it already is) and enjoy the excellent fucking album.

Thanks for reading my review, stay metal. :rocker:

IrritatedTrout
09-22-2011, 12:23 PM
I'm picking this up when it's released in Europe tomorrow. I can't wait.

TheClairvoyant
09-22-2011, 12:26 PM
I'm picking this up when it's released in Europe tomorrow. I can't wait.

Same dude, I can't wait until they announce the EU tour, I'll buy my ticket ASAP, thanks for reading the review btw.

MPF
09-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Right now this is sitting at number 3 on my top 10 of 2011.

KillerCannabis
09-22-2011, 02:03 PM
This one keep improving with every listen. I think it slays CTS.

Def in my top 5 of the year.

mastodon421
09-22-2011, 02:16 PM
Currently number 5 on my list. It has it's low points (Creature Lives), but for the most part it's awesome. Really interesting and diverse release for sure.

MPF
09-22-2011, 02:27 PM
Currently number 5 on my list. It has it's low points (Creature Lives), but for the most part it's awesome. Really interesting and diverse release for sure.

Creature Lives is one of my favorite parts of the album. It shows off what Brann can do on vocals, and I really, REALLY like it.

I can't find weak point on this album.

jhdeity
09-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Cool review. I like the more accessible Mastodon more than I thought i would actually. Here's the video they just released for the "radio friendly" track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAihDAJX8Ow

IrritatedTrout
09-25-2011, 12:30 AM
I'm loving this album. I'd say it's definitely better than Leviathan and Remission, not as good as Blood Mountain (that one's tough to top though), and about on par with Crack The Skye.

TheClairvoyant
09-25-2011, 05:27 AM
I'm loving this album. I'd say it's definitely better than Leviathan and Remission, not as good as Blood Mountain (that one's tough to top though), and about on par with Crack The Skye.

I wouldn't really compare the album to Leviathan or Remission since their a lot different compared to the Hunter. You're right about Blood Mountain though, possibly my favourite Mastodon album, and it's extremely hard to decide if The Hunter is better then Crack The Sky.

slapguitarer
09-25-2011, 11:29 AM
I'm loving this album. I'd say it's definitely better than Leviathan and Remission, not as good as Blood Mountain (that one's tough to top though), and about on par with Crack The Skye.

I'd say it's definitely better than Leviathan and Remission,

:confused:

jd091
09-25-2011, 11:33 AM
It's hard to top the unfuckwithable trio of Remission, Leviathan, and Blood Mountain in my opinion, but this definitely comes close. Strange, since based on the previews, I thought I was gonna hate it. Probably gonna be in my top 10 this year!

Which raises an even larger debacle for me: they're coming to Chicago the same day as Between the Buried and Me, Animals as Leaders, and Tesseract! I already have VIP meet and greet tickets for that tour, so I'll probably keep my commitment and go to that. But hot damn, I would love to see the support tour for this album.

Dextrimental
09-25-2011, 12:14 PM
It's hard to top the unfuckwithable trio of Remission, Leviathan, and Blood Mountain in my opinion, but this definitely comes close. Strange, since based on the previews, I thought I was gonna hate it. Probably gonna be in my top 10 this year!

Which raises an even larger debacle for me: they're coming to Chicago the same day as Between the Buried and Me, Animals as Leaders, and Tesseract! I already have VIP meet and greet tickets for that tour, so I'll probably keep my commitment and go to that. But hot damn, I would love to see the support tour for this album.

Mastodon have never been a band to shy from touring, chances are they'll be touring off this record 'til 2013 at the least, so you'll get another chance to see them. That Btbam gig and line up may not happen again!

Dissimulate
09-25-2011, 12:54 PM
To be honest, my feelings about this are mixed. I was prepared for it to be album of the year after they announced a return to a heavier sound, but with a few exceptions, that didn't happen. I was really disappointed by it, and it took me a bit of time to get over that. The album itself, disregarding what I thought it would be, ranges from decent to mediocre. It mostly sounds like Mastodon's attempt to create a prog-rock album with elements of their own unique style, and they did pull it off. The problem is that it isn't memorable. The songs are just not that good. I may warm to it more, but Mastodon had something unique going for them before CTS, and they seem to have lost that going on an increasingly proggier and softer path, which may be what the band wants to do, but they just don't do it that well.

IrritatedTrout
09-25-2011, 01:03 PM
:confused:

Leviathan is good and Remission pretty much sucks. The new one is great, so it's better than those two.;)

masterguy49
09-25-2011, 01:47 PM
Leviathan is good and Remission pretty much sucks. The new one is great, so it's better than those two.;)

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larvtard
09-25-2011, 01:50 PM
http://myfacewhen.com/images/286.jpg

:lol:

I think the four really long proggy songs are a bit too much, but you CANNOT fuck with March of the Fire Ants, Mother Puncher, Crusher Destroyer, and Where Strides the Behemoth.

jd091
09-25-2011, 03:40 PM
http://myfacewhen.com/images/286.jpg

You just won the internet, my friend.

slapguitarer
09-25-2011, 04:22 PM
Leviathan is good and Remission pretty much sucks. The new one is great, so it's better than those two.;)

Remission pretty much sucks.

Remission pretty much sucks.


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Also, you're no longer invited to my birthday party.

IrritatedTrout
09-25-2011, 11:05 PM
:lol: Crusher, Behemoth, Ole Nessie, and March are good but I rarely even listen to those to be honest.

TheClairvoyant
09-26-2011, 03:09 AM
So is anybody going to see them during there US tour? I have to wait until they announce UK dates ):

ravenheart
09-26-2011, 03:22 AM
I only own Leviathan, Blood Mountain and Crack The Skye, so I can't comment on Remission, and I haven't actually listened to Leviathan yet. The other two I've listened to twice each :eyes:

slapguitarer
09-26-2011, 02:21 PM
I only own Leviathan, Blood Mountain and Crack The Skye, so I can't comment on Remission, and I haven't actually listened to Leviathan yet. The other two I've listened to twice each :eyes:

Listen to Leviathan right now. Like, the second you read this comment, throw on Leviathan.

HandOfDoom
09-27-2011, 05:15 AM
I haven't actually listened to Leviathan yet.

Lol, how long have you had that masterpiece?

daimonos
09-27-2011, 03:10 PM
Creature Lives is one of my favorite parts of the album. It shows off what the studio can do to Brann's vocals, and I really, REALLY like it.

I can't find weak point on this album.

Fixed. ;)

EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Brann with Brent...carry on...

BloodoftheKings
09-28-2011, 08:21 PM
My ratings for each track as of now:

Black Tounge - 9/10
Curl of the Burl - 8/10
Blasteroid - 9/10
Stargasm - 9/10
Octopus Has No Friends - 7/10
All The Heavy Lifting - 10/10
The Hunter - 8/10
Dry Bone Valley - 9/10
Thickening - 8/10
Creature Lives - 9/10
Spectrelight - 10/10
Bedazzled Fingernails - 7/10
The Sparrow - 7/10

MPF
09-28-2011, 08:49 PM
Fixed. ;)

EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Brann with Brent...carry on...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

jd091
09-28-2011, 09:32 PM
After listening to this album about 5 times now, Curl of the Burl is by FAR the best song.

I KILT A MAN 'CAUSE HE KILT MY GOAT

:rocker::rocker::rocker::rocker:

hb420
09-28-2011, 09:40 PM
The album is pretty good for what it is imo. Catchy, quick, and simple metal songs. Just sucks because Mastodon albums before always had this huge depth to them. Had you still soaking in stuff after numerous replays. I just hope they got it out of their system and that The Hunters follow up will at least be more like Crack the Skye if not Blood Mountain.

And it goes ;)
1. Blood Mountain
2. Remission/Call of the Mastodon
3. Crack The Skye
4. Leviathan
5. The Hunter

jd091
09-28-2011, 09:46 PM
If we're gonna do this...

1. Blood Mountain
2. Leviathan
3. Remission
4. Call of the Mastodon
5. The Hunter
6. Crack the Skye

Not to say any of them are bad, though.

DethMaiden
10-01-2011, 12:06 PM
Playing this game? Okay.

1. Leviathan
2. Blood Mountain
3. Remission

gap


4. The Hunter
5. Crack the Skye

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:10 PM
Playing this game? Okay.

1. Leviathan
2. Blood Mountain
3. Remission

gap


4. The Hunter
5. Crack the Skye

How in the name of Satan can you not like Crack The Skye? Or rank it below The Hunter for that matter!

DethMaiden
10-01-2011, 12:11 PM
How in the name of Satan can you not like Crack The Skye? Or rank it below The Hunter for that matter!

Listened to it driving the other day for the first time since '09 (when it was in the bottom portion of my top ten, mind you) and it's just...boring. Oblivion is good, parts of the Czar are good, parts of the Last Baron are good, the title track is alright, Divinations, Quintessence, and Ghost of Karelia are bad.

jd091
10-01-2011, 12:14 PM
How in the name of Satan can you not like Crack The Skye? Or rank it below The Hunter for that matter!

Listened to it driving the other day for the first time since '09 (when it was in the bottom portion of my top ten, mind you) and it's just...boring. Oblivion is good, parts of the Czar are good, parts of the Last Baron are good, the title track is alright, Divinations, Quintessence, and Ghost of Karelia are bad.

Backed. It's not a bad album, but definitely not as good as any other album they've done.

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:14 PM
Listened to it driving the other day for the first time since '09 (when it was in the bottom portion of my top ten, mind you) and it's just...boring. Oblivion is good, parts of the Czar are good, parts of the Last Baron are good, the title track is alright, Divinations, Quintessence, and Ghost of Karelia are bad.

You...

You just said Ghost of Karelia was bad. :hecho:

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:14 PM
Brad, usually I have a LOT of respect for your opinions on these kind of things, but that's complete bullshit.

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:16 PM
Backed. It's not a bad album, but definitely not as good as any other album they've done.

Man, do I have to dig up my list again?

1. Leviathan
2. Crack The Skye
3. Blood Mountain
4. The Hunter
5. Remission

Please tell me you're not serious. :wtf:

w00tasaurus
10-01-2011, 12:21 PM
1. Blood Mountain / The Hunter = tie for best.
2. Remission
3. Leviathan
4. Crack the Skye

still love crack the skye, just love the others more.

jd091
10-01-2011, 12:21 PM
Man, do I have to dig up my list again?

1. Leviathan
2. Crack The Skye
3. Blood Mountain
4. The Hunter
5. Remission

Please tell me you're not serious. :wtf:

Completely serious. It was just a little too soft-prog for me, if that makes sense. I've said it once and I'll say it again:

1. Blood Mountain (PERFECT album in my opinion. Best prog/heavy/sludge mix.)
2. Leviathan (Close second. It just isn't prog crazy like BM, hence the lower slot.)
3. Remission (PURE sludge heaviness!)
4. Call of the Mastodon (More sludge heaviness, but songwriting not quite on par with Remission.)
5. The Hunter (Heavier, with some prog elements, but songwriting seems like they didn't put as much time into it.)
6. Crack The Skye (Not much heavy to it at all, very out there progginess, not BAD, but just not as good as their other stuff.)

That being said, The Czar live was awesome. But when they went right into Capillarian Crest afterwards, there was obviously no comparison.

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:22 PM
1. Blood Mountain / The Hunter = tie for best.
2. Remission
3. Leviathan
4. Crack the Skye

still love crack the skye, just love the others more.

There's three things wrong with this:

A) Remission is higher than Leviathan.

B) Blood Mountain is higher than Leviathan and Crack The Skye.

C) The Hunter is higher than Leviathan and Crack The Skye.

DethMaiden
10-01-2011, 12:22 PM
Well, sorry. :lol:

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Well, sorry. :lol:

No, you don't get off that easily :nag:

DethMaiden
10-01-2011, 12:28 PM
Okay, I'll say it: Why are Crack the Skye's ardent defenders Mastodon fans when they should be Dream Theater fans? It should be the one Mastodon album people who don't normally like Mastodon are into, not a sacred part of the band's canon.

masterguy49
10-01-2011, 12:50 PM
Man, do I have to dig up my list again?

1. Leviathan
2. Crack The Skye
3. Blood Mountain
4. The Hunter
5. Remission

Please tell me you're not serious. :wtf:

I need to listen to all the albums in a day to decide a list like this, but If I did, it be like this.

<3 Brutal

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 12:51 PM
I need to listen to all the albums in a day to decide a list like this, but If I did, it be like this.

<3 Brutal

At least someone on here understands me :lovedup: :hug:

powerslave_85
10-01-2011, 12:54 PM
Yeah, this is definitely a point of contention between Brad and I :lol:

If I had to do a list...
1. Leviathan
2. Blood Mountain
3. Crack the Skye
4. Remission
5. The Hunter

I really do like The Hunter, though.

masterguy49
10-01-2011, 12:59 PM
At least someone on here understands me :lovedup: :hug:

1. Leviathan = Perfection in every way possible.
2. Crack the Skye = Full of beautiful, awesome music. While it isn't normally what Mastodon does, it's fucking awesome. I love it.
3. Blood Mountain = Insane. I don't even know how to explain the insanity of this album.
4. The Hunter = Fun, catchy album. It's not as good as the other but it's still enjoyable to listen to.
5. Remission = The songs I love off Remission, I LOVE. But there are some songs I don't care for on it.

In the end though, I adore everything Mastodon does.

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 01:02 PM
1. Leviathan = Perfection in every way possible.
2. Crack the Skye = Full of beautiful, awesome music. While it isn't normally what Mastodon does, it's fucking awesome. I love it.
3. Blood Mountain = Insane. I don't even know how to explain the insanity of this album.
4. The Hunter = Fun, catchy album. It's not as good as the other but it's still enjoyable to listen to.
5. Remission = The songs I love off Remission, I LOVE. But there are some songs I don't care for on it.

In the end though, I adore everything Mastodon does.

I agree with EVERY single word you just said.

w00tasaurus
10-01-2011, 01:05 PM
It's crazy how with most bands people can agree on at least a ranking of the best albums or the worst album, but with Mastodon everyone has completely different rankings. Shows you how varied and kick arse they are.

brutal_descent
10-01-2011, 01:07 PM
It's crazy how with most bands people can agree on at least a ranking of the best albums or the worst album, but with Mastodon everyone has completely different rankings. Shows you how varied and kick arse they are.

Surprisingly enough, for all the disagreements us Mastodon fans have over ranking their albums, we tend to always agree that they all kick ass. I hope The Hunter isn't going to change that too much...

BloodoftheKings
10-01-2011, 01:35 PM
Listened to it driving the other day for the first time since '09 (when it was in the bottom portion of my top ten, mind you) and it's just...boring. Oblivion is good, parts of the Czar are good, parts of the Last Baron are good, the title track is alright, Divinations, Quintessence, and Ghost of Karelia are bad.

http://myfacewhen.com/images/286.jpg

jd091
10-01-2011, 01:37 PM
Okay, I'll say it: Why are Crack the Skye's ardent defenders Mastodon fans when they should be Dream Theater fans? It should be the one Mastodon album people who don't normally like Mastodon are into, not a sacred part of the band's canon.

Jesus christ, this, so much. You are a god, brad. Crack the Skye is not a Mastodon album, even though its still great.

And I definitely find it cool that even though we all disagree on the rankings, we still all love their material. It's a testament to how perfect of a band they are.

300%_Density
10-01-2011, 05:33 PM
Something tells me I need to listen to this again. Listened once and didn't get into it very much. Everybody for the most part seems to love it. Might see about giving it the old college try again.

IrritatedTrout
10-02-2011, 05:02 AM
So what do people think of The Ruiner? My friend just sent it to me because I got the standard version of the album but I probably like it better than Thickening and Creature Lives.

slapguitarer
10-02-2011, 09:40 AM
So what do people think of The Ruiner? My friend just sent it to me because I got the standard version of the album but I probably like it better than Thickening and Creature Lives.

I think the main riff sounds a lot like the riff in Spectrelight. Near the middle it reminds me of Blood Mountain. It's a pretty good song. I'm upset they just didn't include it in the regular version of the album.

And if we're doing lists.

1. Leviathan
2. Remission
3. Crack The Skye
4. Blood Mountain
5. The Hunter

That being said, I love the Hunter.

larvtard
10-02-2011, 11:55 AM
Lincoln, stop being an elitist dick. Get off the internet for a couple of years and come back when you're more mature. Hell, I remember I was pretty immature on here when I was 17. But I'm pretty immature anyway, so you can probably come back at 17 and be fine.

Anyways...CTS is a fantastic album. Who cares if it doesn't sound like Mastodon?

OraclesofAgony
10-02-2011, 01:20 PM
Well since we're all doing rankings...............

1.) Blood Mountain
2.) Crack the Skye
3.) Leviathan
4.) Remission
5.) The Hunter

I consider all their albums great though, including The Hunter.

jd091
10-02-2011, 01:41 PM
Lincoln, stop being an elitist dick. Get off the internet for a couple of years and come back when you're more mature.


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larvtard
10-02-2011, 01:45 PM
http://rlv.zcache.com/femur_chill_your_boner_tshirt-p2355828666538543864xmd_400.jpg

I don't get hot from Lincoln's immaturity :lol:

Dextrimental
10-02-2011, 02:12 PM
1) Leviathan
2) Remission
3) The Hunter
4) Blood Mountain
5) Crack The Skye


On the Crack The Skye debate, definitely the weakest from Mastodon, however bad Mastodon is still amazing music soooooooo I still do rate it very highly. The Hunter at the moment is sounding amazing to me, and that's not changing with repeated listens. Blood Mountain never clicked with me as much as it did with other Mastodon fans, and Remission and Leviathan just floor me every time I listen to them.

Mastodon are still one of the most consistent bands going in terms of continued output, and The Hunter hasn't changed that, least not for me. The Hunter may be a different approach for them in terms of album writing, but the technicality and the hook is still there, not to mention the unique sound. So what if it doesn't sound like Remission or Leviathan? Would you rather they tread water as a band and cover old territory? I know I wouldn't.

mastodon421
10-02-2011, 03:48 PM
1.Blood Mountain
2.Leviathan
3.Crack The Skye
4.The Hunter
5.Remission

They are my favorite band and I honestly love of all their albums. All 5 of these are pretty close in terms of quality.

JRA
10-09-2011, 09:52 AM
I've only listened to the whole thing twice now, and one thing is very very clear to me.


There is such a thing as a bad melody.

Seriously, I listen to songs like Blasteroid, and I think that that if they were on an Iron Maiden album or a Saxon album or some sort of traditional heavy metal bands album, it would be a lauded as that band's Quest For Fire or Suzie Hold On or some really awful song. It's like the band sat around going "hey lets see how many melodies or that riff sequence sounds like complete and utter shit."

I seriously don't want to be that guy, but I finally realize there's a reason most metal bands are supposed to stay in E or D or otherwise. They just sound fucking wrong, and it doesn't make you want to bang your head. And I also love how Blasteroid starts swearing randomly for no reason, even though swearing has never really been a part of Mastodon's chemistry. Like "oh shit we just made this song way too happy, we need to start swearing like crazy to show we aren't completely selling out."

As for the Creature Lives controversy, I must admit, it's nice and Christmassy. Perhaps because the vocals use the same chord sequence as Joy To The World. I can't decide if I genuinely like it or I ironically like it.

And the winner of "Song that rocks the hardest with the gayest songtitle ever" has been passed on from Heart of the Unicorn to Bedazzled Fingernails. Actually I'm pretty sure HOTU is still gayer. And that it still rocks harder. But well done with the subversion Mastodon, well done.

As for the album itself, it is what it is, but you know what it isn't? A return to Remission and Leviathan.

Dextrimental
10-09-2011, 10:07 AM
Considering Remission and Leviathan already exist, negating ALL the statements the band made before the record was released, why did this record ever need to be a return to Remission or Leviathan's sound? Surely its better the band push forward and take risks with their sound, than re-hash old ground and become a one trick pony?

JRA
10-09-2011, 11:10 AM
Surely its better the band push forward and take risks with their sound, than re-hash old ground and become a one trick pony?


Then say that and stand by it. More people would respect them for that. But if you make statements pre-release that contradict what the product is, an entity deserves all the criticism it gets.

Dextrimental
10-09-2011, 01:16 PM
Then say that and stand by it. More people would respect them for that. But if you make statements pre-release that contradict what the product is, an entity deserves all the criticism it gets.

Judge the album by the album, and not what the band said it would or would not be.

JRA
10-09-2011, 01:29 PM
Judge the album by the album, and not what the band said it would or would not be.


Nope. If we allow bands to get away with this shit uncriticized, there will be alot more Lars Ulrichs in the world.

Dextrimental
10-09-2011, 01:41 PM
Nope. If we allow bands to get away with this shit uncriticized, there will be alot more Lars Ulrichs in the world.

Not really, because unlike Lars Ulrich, Mastodon can actually still release a good record.

JRA
10-09-2011, 02:05 PM
A Lars Ulrich is someone who schemes and covers oneself in a heavy dose of bullshit and gets away with it because he has some valuable resource on his side, or because not nearly enough people with powerful platforms called him on it.

El Gordo
10-10-2011, 05:31 AM
Not really, because unlike Lars Ulrich, Mastodon can actually still release a good record.

So because Mastodon is a better band than Metallica nowadays, it's OK for them to make claims about their music that are untrue?

Dissimulate
10-26-2011, 03:05 PM
I look at this like I look at newer Opeth. The band wants to create prog rock, and it's good that they do what they want, but there's a small problem: they suck at it. I might warm up a bit to some of the singles if I listen to them more, but this is like Crack the Addiction for me, in that I couldn't finish the album the first time, couldn't finish the album when on a large amount of recreational drugs, and have no motivation to finish the album other then the fact that they were good once.

Mastodon album quality is inversely proportional to Mastodon band age.

Nick_to_the_face
10-27-2011, 01:10 PM
Yeah they might have said something that was totally untrue, but who fucking cares? If it's good, it's good. If you hold something a band says about an upcoming release to heart, then that's your fault. I wait until I hear it before I judge. Hell even when Mastodon said they were going to return to the heavier sound, I thought "we'll see".

Nick_to_the_face
10-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Also..I still wanna do this :eyes:

Leviathan
Remission
Blood Mountain
The Hunter
Crack The Skye

not sure where I would put Call of The Mastodon

That saying I love everything they have done. Except for CTS..it's ok

Indestructible
10-27-2011, 01:34 PM
1. The Hunter
2. Crack The Skye
3. Blood Mountain
4. Leviathan
5. Remission