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JRA
09-15-2011, 08:12 PM
Mods, change the title of the thread to the new title.

Well folks, after contemplating, I've decided I'm gonna get in on this 5 months of album business. I decided to keep it strictly metal though, so the only way people are gonna be surprised is maybe a band you weren't expecting. I'm thinking about maybe doing a bonus album from a different genre every ten albums or so, but we'll see.

Anyways, let's get this ball rolling. (and yes, that jarbled coding was an album entry, which one? Wait and see....) Scroll down to the latest post.

larvtard
09-15-2011, 08:22 PM
talking about king diamond or something

Completely, and only, Abigail Rock and Roll ????????? And ???????? Has a doctorate in class. ??????? Orchestra, Rush, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, and Genesis is pale in comparison to what's on the display. And the bands were good at this type of craft, and there are Masters. Groove to, changes in the rhythm of time to ??????? Until only the drums, bass guitar, only, only, this album covers everything professionals need to know in order to prove that their ??????????. This record is not an art, it is simply the best music of the highest aqueduct was built in the trade to increase the level of an album of songs.

Oh yes, most of the album is King Diamond. It is clearly a concept album? *?? = ???????? Wanted to do something about it I do not know of. I tried to get into the story, but I do not pay attention, not only because of the display of what the amount of time. If you are a musician, the more attention. Now

I'm still not completely sure what you're asking, though :eyes:

MPF
09-15-2011, 08:26 PM
Apu: Ok yes Hot Dog Hot Dog, yes sir, no sir. Ok Hot Dog.

slapguitarer
09-15-2011, 08:27 PM
New King Diamond?

JRA
09-15-2011, 08:32 PM
talking about king diamond or something



I'm still not completely sure what you're asking, though :eyes:



What makes you think I'm asking anyone anything? ;)

I suppose I should have done a better job of encrypting that placeholding passage, but it is rather funny to see the reverse translation.

Epidemic Reign
09-15-2011, 10:50 PM
I'm so confused. :confused:

orlandodavis
09-17-2011, 11:04 AM
Yes.

JRA
10-06-2011, 06:12 PM
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/master-of-puppets.jpg
100. Metallica- Master of Puppets

1. "Battery"
2. "Master of Puppets"
3. "The Thing That Should Not Be"
4. "Welcome Home (Sanitarium)"
5. "Disposable Heroes"
6. "Leper Messiah"
7. "Orion" (Instrumental)
8. "Damage, Inc."


I’ve been a pretty big supporter of Ultraboris’s infamous essay of how this album killed heavy metal. But I will also concede three things 1) Pieces of said essay don’t hold up and if anything it serves more as an afterword to the Some Kind of Monster movie. 2) While I understand Boris’s frustration with how this album was lauded as the forefront of metal in 1986, I honestly can come up with two much more appropriate nominees for that dishonor: Metallica’s Black album and Vulgar Display of Power. One of those albums is on here, one of them isn’t. 3) If nothing else the album is still listenable. Even Boris said that on a strictly musical level the album is by no means bad. The problem was just despite the fact that there are classic songs on here, the fact is the band sacrificed atmosphere and brutality for, well “Cliff’s hippie tendencies.” I don’t want to ramble on about non-album Metallica bullshit for too long, but I used to own a book of Metallica quotes (don’t ask) and one such quote was from Kirk, claiming that if Cliff had lived, the Load album would have come into existence a lot sooner. I believe that quote more than any sort of lionizing of Cliff from any long-haired leather and denim fellow.

In short, this album is basically Ride The Lightning- lite, no more, no less. Personally I think a good 70% of this album’s acclaim comes from their massive commercial success in 1991. If Metallica hadn’t released the Black Album, this album would not have the heaping praise it does today, certainly it wouldn’t be claimed as the greatest metal album of 1986, let alone of all time. But it’s here, it’s queer, get used to it.

Obligatory song post:
Master of Puppets (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-hEyVQDRA)

daimonos
10-06-2011, 06:17 PM
Why. the fuck. do you care. what UltraBoris thinks. Seriously.

JRA
10-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Why. the fuck. do you care. what UltraBoris thinks. Seriously.


Because he has some good points. No not everything he says is the truth, be he does have nuggets of truth buried here and there throughout his rhetoric.

For instance:
Something I agree with- Sanitarium is a cheesy ballad masquerading as thrash.
Two things I disagree with- the middle section of Master of Puppets being dumb as well as The Thing That Should Not Be being the song that spawned groove metal- The song has practically no groove whatsoever!

The point of me bringing it up anyway was to answer the question of why it's all the way down at 100.

El Gordo
10-06-2011, 06:28 PM
Why. the fuck. do you care. what UltraBoris thinks. Seriously.

The guy knew his thrash, of that there is no dispute. He also held grudges against Metallica and Testament, and was very vocal about it. There's also no disputing that. Bottom line is, his review of Master of Puppets is one of the most famous internet reviews around. You've read it.

JRA
10-06-2011, 07:00 PM
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/6/9/9/2699.jpg
99. Terrorizer- World Downfall

1. "After World Obliteration"
2. "Storm of Stress"
3. "Fear of Napalm"
4. "Human Prey"
5. "Corporation Pull-In"
6. "Strategic Warheads"
7. "Condemned System"
8. "Resurrection"
9. "Enslaved by Propaganda"
10. "Need to Live"
11. "Ripped to Shreds"
12. "Injustice"
13. "Whirlwind Struggle"
14. "Infestation"
15. "Dead Shall Rise"
16. "World Downfall"


In my quest to love all things acclaimed in the intangible metal hall of fame, I have had great successes and dissapointments. But Iíd say my greatest dissapointement is the concession that I will just never love grindcore. Itís not for me. Grindcore is basically the same as disco. It has itís purpose but a very very short shelf life. Thereís only so far you can grow with a song limit of 1 second to 2 minutes, and youíll probably run out of truly great riffs very quickly. That being said, Iíd like to think that any erupting scene will yield at least one classic, and this is said classic. Featuring the rhythm section of none other than Morbid Angel(!), who that very year had just released Altars of Madness (!!), Jesse Pintado and Oscar release an angry and violent piece of art that should be studied by anyone calling themselves a musicologist.

Recommended track: Corporation Pull In (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KgenV8drw)

daimonos
10-06-2011, 07:08 PM
Because he has some good points. No not everything he says is the truth, be he does have nuggets of truth buried here and there throughout his rhetoric.

For instance:
Something I agree with- Sanitarium is a cheesy ballad masquerading as thrash.
Two things I disagree with- the middle section of Master of Puppets being dumb as well as The Thing That Should Not Be being the song that spawned groove metal- The song has practically no groove whatsoever!

The point of me bringing it up anyway was to answer the question of why it's all the way down at 100.

But I'd rather read your opinions, than the same shit I've already read from him. ;)

IrritatedTrout
10-07-2011, 02:13 AM
Puppets is amazing, easily one of the best albums ever.;)

SomewhereInTime72
10-07-2011, 03:40 AM
When Kirk says Load would've come sooner if Cliff were still around, I completely believe it.

I also believe it would've been a lot better because he knew what he was doing more than anyone else in the bandwhen it came to the less thrashy material.

Dextrimental
10-07-2011, 05:59 AM
When Kirk says Load would've come sooner if Cliff were still around, I completely believe it.

I also believe it would've been a lot better because he knew what he was doing more than anyone else in the band when it came to the less thrashy material.

This. Load would've been a much more focused record if Cliff was writing the material.

jhdeity
10-07-2011, 07:20 AM
99 albums better than Master of Puppets. If there is anything more retarded than than that in the history of the internet I'd love to see it.

I'm expecting to be turned on to some cool music so I'll tune in. Seriously though. 99 albums better than Master of Puppets? hahahahaha

Elitist Hipster Alert.... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

JRA
10-07-2011, 07:29 AM
If anything I picture two elitist hipsters saying that Master of Puppets is the greatest metal album ever because of it's slower and softer tendencies. :D

GarageMetal468
10-07-2011, 07:29 AM
99 albums better than Master of Puppets. If there is anything more retarded than than that in the history of the internet I'd love to see it.

I'm expecting to be turned on to some cool music so I'll tune in. Seriously though. 99 albums better than Master of Puppets? hahahahaha

Elitist Hipster Alert.... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

Hey maybe some people don't like Metallica as much as others. Hell, I had Skeletonwitch above them on my top thrash metal albums list!

Anyway that Terrorizer album is fucking awesome! This list should be cool, looking forward to what's to come.

JRA
10-07-2011, 07:30 AM
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/m/morbid-angel/album-covenant.jpg

98. Morbid Angel- Covenant

1. "Rapture"
2. "Pain Divine"
3. "World of Shit (The Promised Land)"
4. "Vengeance Is Mine"
5. "The Lions Den"
6. "Blood on My Hands"
7. "Angel of Disease"
8. "Sworn to the Black"
9. "Nar Mattaru"
10. "God of Emptiness

Morbid Angel’s third (and best selling album) plays like your standard pop record. Great beginning and end, boring middle. Albums like this rely more on the strength of the songs themselves rather than being a new burgeoning piece of art like Altars of Madness. It also feels that this album was a return to the Altars of Madness style, considering the lack of variety (and also considering this album and AOM gets 7 songs a pop during their live set where as Blessed can barely get 1). There’s quite a few great songs here, but special mention goes to World Of Shit, which is inexplicably the only Morbid Angel song to have excessive cursing. It’s almost like their manager said “Ok guys this is our major label debut, we need something to get the suburban white boys on board! Someone write some lyrics with a bunch of four letter words!” Maybe that’s why it’s still their grand finale, because it reminds all the old timers of their youth when saying Fucked Human Shit made you sound like you were ahead of the curve for some reason.

Reccommended Track:
World of Shit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OgDuLbb0bM)

jhdeity
10-07-2011, 07:34 AM
If anything I picture two elitist hipsters saying that Master of Puppets is the greatest metal album ever because of it's slower and softer tendencies. :D

There's actually a saying about that band writing their "Master of Puppets" which is supposed to mean their crowning jewel or Peak album of their career. Musicians use this saying quite often actually. Personally it's my 3rd favorite Metallica album, 2nd on a good day but now I'll chuckle every time I hear someone say that or I'll reply they made their 100th best album? hahahahaha

Carry on...

JRA
10-07-2011, 07:42 AM
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97. Demilich- Nespithe

"When the Sun Drank the Weight of Water"
"The Sixteenth Six-Tooth Son of Fourteen Four-Regional Dimensions (Still Unnamed)"
"Inherited Bowel Levitation - Reduced Without Any Effort"
"The Echo (Replacement)"
"The Putrefying Road in the Nineteenth Extremity (...Somewhere Inside the Bowels of Endlessness...)"
"(Within) The Chamber of Whispering Eyes"
"And You'll Remain... (In Pieces in Nothingness)"
"Erecshyrinol"
"The Planet That Once Used To Absorb Flesh In Order To Achieve Divinity and Immortality (Suffocated To The Flesh That It Desired...)"
"The Cry"
"Raped Embalmed Beauty Sleep"

The ugliest album ever recorded. Period. No pornogrind or shitfun or any violent lyrics death metal album will ever outdo this Frank Zappa-esque bizarre take on death metal. What’s especially notable is the vocals. Easily the most brutal vocals in death metal. Ultraboris said it best, “It sounds like he’s talking through his intestines.”

So why is such an album with such a high honor so low on this list? Well because once you heard one track on this album, you’ve kind of heard them all. It more or less suffers from the same problem as Sepultura’s Beneath The Remains. Each song tries to be everything at once without any real mapping or structure that every song ends up sounding the same. Also, these song titles are completely fucking ridiculous. A popular strawman argument is that the songtitles are that way as a complete rejection of commercial tendencies. My response to that is, why not make like Edge of Sanity and release one long 40-50 minute death metal song? Oh well. Even though every song is more or less the same, it’s still worth listening to the whole way through because after one song, you will totally need to hear more.

Oh yea, and the whole thing is free for download, right here on the band’s website. http://www.anentity.com/demilich/download.php

Reccomended song:
When The Sun Drank The Weight of Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxizB02d0gE)

IrritatedTrout
10-07-2011, 11:16 AM
"The Planet That Once Used To Absorb Flesh In Order To Achieve Divinity and Immortality (Suffocated To The Flesh That It Desired...)"

:lol:

Interesting cover art though.

Just gotta put it out there, this list may be a lot of things, but I'm sure it's not gonna be full of hipster fodder. Still not agreeing with Puppets being that low though.

Also, is it only one album per band on this list or will there be repeated artists?

mankvill
10-07-2011, 11:24 AM
>personal rankings
>"omg he's such a hipster and thinks other albums are better"

you guys are all buttravaged

that said:

fuck yeah Terrorizer and Demilich :rocker:

JRA
10-07-2011, 11:43 AM
http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af124/zavala-javier/Album%20Covers/JudasPreist-HellBentforLeather.jpg

96. Judas Priest- Hell Bent For Leather

1. "Delivering the Goods"
2. "Rock Forever"
3. "Evening Star"
4. "Hell Bent for Leather"
5. "Take on the World"
6. "Burnin' Up"
7. "The Green Manalishi (With the Two-Pronged Crown)"
8. "Killing Machine"
9. "Running Wild"
10. "Before the Dawn"
11. "Evil Fantasies"

Maybe with a bit more of a push from the record company (as well as a better choice of singles to be pushed) this would have gone down in history as the bandís British Steel. Itís right here where the band truly streamlined their sound, and some moments are borrowed from on British Steel. Seriously. Take On The World was recycled into United, the chorus of Breaking The Law is kind of the same as Hell Bent For Leather, and Green Manilishi kind of has the same feel as Living After Midnight, albeit the latter has a more restrained vocal performance as well as a more LCD lyrical matter. Oh well. One thing that was common throughout 70ís Priest was their tendency to incorporate sprinkles of 70ís funk and soul throughout their music. Seriously, listen to Evil Fantasies and tell me it doesnít sound like Arethra Franklinís choice of doing a drastic image and sound change. Or that Burnin Up doesnít sound like Chef singing a steamy funk ode to the children of South Park to try and clear things up... almost 20 years before hand.

Point being, this album doesnít get nearly enough credit from the metal community. This is the real British Steel and should be treated by the populace as such (even though Screaming For Vengeance is still the best ďhard rockĒ Priest album, but thatís for another dayÖ)

Reccommended track:
Evil Fantasies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNNF-wxsmBo)

larvtard
10-07-2011, 11:44 AM
Never actually listened to Demillich before. Music's amazing, vocals....not so much. They kill it for me, unfortunately.

El Gordo
10-07-2011, 12:11 PM
Already this is the best of the "my favourite albums" threads. Puppets at 100 (which people are sure to still be bitching about at page 35), Morbid Angel, Demilich... keep 'em comin'!

JRA
10-07-2011, 12:13 PM
By the way, this is NOT a one album per band list. Iron Maiden has over 5 entries here.

IrritatedTrout
10-07-2011, 12:17 PM
Hell Bent is a really good Priest album.

jhdeity
10-07-2011, 12:46 PM
>personal rankings
>"omg he's such a hipster and thinks other albums are better"

you guys are all buttravaged

that said:

fuck yeah Terrorizer and Demilich :rocker:

All in good fun. I can think of 1 or 2 Maiden albums better than Bell Bent for Leather. 5? WOW!

I agree Demelich has incredible music. Clown Car vocals though...

JRA
10-07-2011, 04:39 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/1/1b/20110401145805!Slayer_-_Seasons_in_the_Abyss.jpg
95. Slayer- Seasons In The Abyss

"War Ensemble"
"Blood Red"
"Spirit in Black"
"Expendable Youth"
"Dead Skin Mask"
"Hallowed Point"
"Skeletons of Society"
"Temptation"
"Born of Fire"
"Seasons in the Abyss

When I first got this album, I listened to it twice a day, every day (Temptation aside). It was my favorite Slayer album for the longest time. But then some cracks started to show, things like Dead Skin Mask being kind of dull, the intro of War Ensemble sounding a little too much like the intro to Angel of Death, the band as a whole seeming to develop one rote tempo and feel for playing fast. I may think Reign In Blood is overrated, but at least there were subtle differences in tempo and rhythm (I was a drummer for 4 years, that’s why I’m a stickler for that). There was also kind of a let down in the fact that Slayer were beginning to streamline boring social commentary instead of their stock and trade of monsters, satan, blood etc. Yea it’s true that Silent Scream from the previous album was first into this foray, but at least it had the superkvlt line “Death is Fucking You Insane!” I don’t make a big deal in such things except for the fact that by 1990, everybody was doing social commentary! Metallica had been a CNN of metal since 1984, Megadeth had been a Hunter Thompson, even Anthrax was getting serious on our asses! So Slayer joining in on that really made them seem less scary and more human, and goddammit, that’s the last thing you should do if you have a reputation as the baddest band in the land.

Regardless, I do maintain that this album is Slayer’s last [barely] classic.

Recommended song:
Seasons In The Abyss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQpvqPuDJWI)

SomewhereInTime72
10-07-2011, 11:08 PM
I like Seasons best for probably the same reason you find it lacking. While the tempo isn't too varying, I think it has probably their best guitar work (aka solos not sounding entirely like hitting random notes really fast and abusing the whammy bar). For me the songwriting on it is better than other Slayer albums. Though RiB comes astonishingly close.

illuminatus917
10-07-2011, 11:10 PM
It's the third best Slayer release behind RIB and Hell Awaits.

jhdeity
10-07-2011, 11:52 PM
It's the third best Slayer release behind RIB and Hell Awaits.

This

IrritatedTrout
10-08-2011, 01:31 AM
The first Slayer album I ever got. I thought it was so fucking evil and heavy at the time. Still love it.

JRA
10-08-2011, 06:15 AM
I like Seasons best for probably the same reason you find it lacking. While the tempo isn't too varying, I think it has probably their best guitar work (aka solos not sounding entirely like hitting random notes really fast and abusing the whammy bar). For me the songwriting on it is better than other Slayer albums. Though RiB comes astonishingly close.


Actually I do like the lead work on Seasons. In that regard it's their best since Show No Mercy.

JRA
10-08-2011, 06:22 AM
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94. Bathory- Bathory

Different groups have different forms of media iconography to indicate that they are “down.” Goth kids have “The Nightmare Before Christmas,” hip hop heads have Wild Style, and metal heads have this album. It’s easy to see why, with that simple, but effective album cover. Regardless, despite the charades, this is not even close to Bathory’s best album. Some claim that this album is merely a Venom ripoff. They’re half right. Bathory ended up becoming so much more than that tag, but everyone has to start somewhere. Truth be told I’d probably find myself listening to this way more often than anything from Venom, but the critics were right for a short time. The lead guitar on this album is certainly much more melodic than the bats out of hell style of Mantas. Quorthon was always a fantastic lead guitarist, and the best examples of his playing are on the songs Necromansy and Raise The Dead. My only criticisms of this album is it is a smidgen repetitive, and did we really need three minutes of a storm sound loop as an intro?

Recommended song:
Necromansy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-2iecW_iY)

JRA
10-08-2011, 11:19 AM
http://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/51lhrh5zleL/Venom-Black-Metal.jpg
93. Venom- Black Metal

OMG VENOM AFTER U TAK ALL DAT SHIT!111

The truth is, this album just had better crafted songwriting than Bathory’s debut. I may listen to Bathory’s debut more, but I can’t deny that this one is just better. They say that timing is everything, and I feel like if I got into Venom back in 2004-05, I’d love them very dearly. But because it happened a couple years after that, I feel more ambivalent about the band than anything else. They are probably the only band who’s influences are way more enjoyable to me then the influence itself.

The burning question- Is this album Black Metal? No. But it is excellent proto-thrash metal. Hell for 1982 you couldn’t get much thrashier than this! Yea there are some goofy moments such as Teacher’s Pet, but everything else is fantastic speed metal that still stands up to this day. And no, no one’s a virtuoso on this album, but they never needed to be. Cronos sounded like he was the high general of Satan’s legions, and every vocal he does is like he’s giving the legions their marching commands from high atop a mountainous perch with seas of lava all around. Even though I find the band a hint overrated, this is still essential 80’s metal. and the title track has one of the all time greatest riffs in metal.

Recommended track: Black Metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmzFVDjVnM)

mankvill
10-08-2011, 12:08 PM
It's the third best Slayer release behind RIB and Hell Awaits.

-_-

JRA
10-08-2011, 04:09 PM
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92. Overkill- The Years of Decay
"Time to Kill"
"Elimination"
"I Hate"
"Nothing to Die for"
"Playing with Spiders/Skullkrusher"
"Birth of Tension"
"Who Tends the Fire"
"The Years of Decay"
"E.vil N.ever D.ies"

Overkill’s sound can best be described as taking Salacious Crumb from Return of The Jedi and giving him a microphone to front Exodus. It doesn’t sound like a compliment, but when you think about it, the idea sounds fucking ingenious.

Many people rate this as Overkill’s best album. While I think it’s a good work, I do have one or two issues with it. This suffers from what I call “the first single is by far the best song” syndrome. In this case Elimination. Elimination is an all-time classic of metal no doubt, but the rest of this album, while good just doesn’t quite measure up to it. Another tick I have that can be blamed on my drummer sensibilities, is that the first three songs run at the exact same tempo. This really bugged me as I had Overkill’s first three albums before this, and they were perfectly capable, nay excellent, at crafting deadly bashers with a variety of tempos and feels. Shit even AC/DC knows to mix it up once in a while. In any case, despite it’s flaws, Years of Decay is an above average thrasher that is better than most outputs by the second tier of thrash bands, and maybe even one or two by the big four (as this list has already indicated :D).

Recommended track:
Elimination (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6qC-scrcOw)

mankvill
10-08-2011, 04:23 PM
E!

El Gordo
10-08-2011, 04:57 PM
E!

LIMINATION!!!

JRA
10-09-2011, 07:48 AM
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91. Sepultura- Beneath The Remains

Some argue this album is death metal, others argue that its thrash. I argue who the fuck cares! I suppose such a topic really warrants discussion if you have that much of a stick up your ass about guttural vocals (like me and tempos), but Max sounds more like typical thrash barking than anything else.

But yes, sweet, sweet Beneath The Remains. This album is like a cook book of vicious ways to crush your enemies. Perhaps you prefer the popular sledgehammer form of Inner Self. Perhaps you prefer the simple but effective method of fast fist pummeling like in Primitive Future. Or maybe the technique of stabbing your enemies repeatedly in the skull on display in Slaves of Pain suits your purposes. Or maybe you just prefer to fuck your enemies with riffs, as displayed in the title trackÖand everywhere else in this album.

As I mentioned in the Nespithe column, the one flaw is that most of the songs sound the same because of the mass-stacking of ideas. Sure if you listen to this album all the way through you will know where you are, but if a song comes on Sirius XM or you happen to put your iPod on shuffle, thereís an 80% chance you arenít gonna know what song it is. Doesnít matter, even though this album is basically the same song 9 times, my fucking God . . . WHAT A SONG!!

Recommended Song:
Slaves Of Pain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcP16EJjTQU)

larvtard
10-09-2011, 07:56 AM
I fucking love Beneath The Remains so fucking much. One of the best thrash albums ever fucking made.

JRA
10-09-2011, 12:14 PM
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90. Bathory- The Return...

One tends to notice that of the early Bathory records, the self titled and Under The Sign of the Black Mark get the most praise. This one gets suspiciously ignored. Usually the complaints are lauded at the production. I certainly hope these arenít the same people that love Transilvanian Hunger and Filosofem for their minimalism, because minimalism is sort of a point for black metal. Yes the production and the guitar sound is a little odd, but that doesnít stop it from being a great record. You could almost argue that this is the first true black metal album because while the ideas arenít as streamlined as on Black Mark, most of the Venom tendencies are gone, and the fast sections are played faster than Slayer would ever hope to do, even in 1985! Songwriting wise, itís has a tad more variety than the first album, but itís not the pleothra of different ideas as on Black Mark. In fact thatís pretty much this album in a nut shell, better than the first album, but not quite as good as the one that came after it.

Recommended track:
Born For Burning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZYVFX9iDws)

DethMaiden
10-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Sure if you listen to this album all the way through you will know where you are, but if a song comes on Sirius XM or you happen to put your iPod on shuffle, thereís an 80% chance you arenít gonna know what song it is. Doesnít matter, even though this album is basically the same song 9 times, my fucking God . . . WHAT A SONG!!

Disagree with this. Love the album but find its songs pretty distinct. The riffs are memorable enough to pick the songs out by, I think.

JRA
10-09-2011, 01:42 PM
Disagree with this. Love the album but find its songs pretty distinct. The riffs are memorable enough to pick the songs out by, I think.

Some songs are more distinct than others, either because they're "singles" or live staples or deep cuts you really like. That's why I chose to knock the percentage number down from the typical 99% to 80%, and maybe I should have gone lower.

Actually a perfect example was when I was driving in my Dad's car listening to Ian Christe's metal show and Sepultura came on. I knew damn well it was a song from Beneath The Remains, but couldn't identify which one until the chorus (and even now I still don't remember what it was, but it was like 2 or 3 years ago so...yea).

es156
10-09-2011, 04:00 PM
E!

LIMINATION!!!


:lol:

JRA
10-09-2011, 05:49 PM
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/6/2/9/629.jpg


89. Suffocation- Pierced From Within

Probably the most recent album Iíve acquired to make the list, Pierced From Within is a solid mass of steel with random beams poking through out the sides that innocent bystanders perforate themselves on upon hearing it. This is genre defining brutal death metal. Fast but controlled blast beats, guttural vocals, thick chunky riffs, disturbing subject matter, and most importantly thrash rhythms. To me death metal is really just an advanced thrash with extra brutal and atonal tendencies put there for the sake of pushing the music even further. Why else would people still be moshing to it and be completely justified in doing so? Of course, no Suffocation review is complete without discussion of the Breakdowns. Many claim that Suffocationís breakdowns are where most modern deathcore music comes from. Itís so odd to me that a band merely showing off their prog influences/introducing a section to take a break from speed could be responsible for something so awful. But the thing is these breakdowns are the most grooveless, vicious breakdowns ever conceived. Personally I think itís good that they have no groove, it ratchets up the tension and forces the listener to bang their head with the snare drum regardless of feel, and thatís what metal is all about.

Reccommended track:
Thrones of Blood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynFMuyGMX2U)

IrritatedTrout
10-10-2011, 02:56 AM
I love so many of those old school DM album covers but I feel like the music never has the impact the covers do.

JRA
10-10-2011, 07:23 AM
Yea I understand that.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Ace_of_Spades.jpg


88. Motorhead- Ace of Spades

Motorhead’s most popular album is great for beginners, but it’s not quite their best effort. But unlike Judas Priest where the most popular album just had the simplest, lowest common denominator material, with Motorhead you get the same album every time. So it’s more of a matter of which album has the strongest signal to noise ratio. Ace of Spades has an excellent signal to noise ratio, but they would develop much stronger ones with albums that were made after the metal police decided they were no longer the heaviest band of the metal scene and thus abandoned the band (the ugly truth of why no one pays attention after this album) and one album made before it. What albums are those? Stay tuned for future episodes.

Recommended track:
Love Me Like A Reptile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql6jKCjsjIg&feature=fvst)

JRA
10-10-2011, 11:55 AM
Come on, guys, more posts. Even if you don't like the album/ think its too low or too high.

http://www.ticketini.com/pub/photos/possessed_seven_churches_75792.jpg

87. Possessed- Seven Churches

I suppose I love Seven Churches more than Pierced From Within because itís more pure thrash metal with guttural vocals, and thus the songs are more distinguishable and memorable. But even then, fuckin A these riffs are demonic and evil. Even though there are four more Slayer albums to come on this list, I gurantee you they heard this album and became super jealous that they didnít come up with each and every one of the riffs on display. Possessed were also at times taking the satanic and hell lyrical subjects to far more terrifying levels than Slayer did on fucking Hell Awaits, their most evil album! Maybe thatís why Slayer began to shy away, they thought ďoh shit, if these guys are at this level now, imagine what theyíll be like on their next album!Ē

Well sadly, Possessedís second album went more in the direction of crossover punk thrash and thus they lost a lot of the brutality that made them great in the first place, the first bullet of many that ended this great bandís depressingly short career. But this album is a time-honored classic that will never be forgotten by the metal elite. Hail the Seven Churches!

Recommended track:
Holy Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYkfBtJwXn4)

IrritatedTrout
10-10-2011, 12:00 PM
Believe it or not I don't actually own Ace of Spades.:eyes: It might be the biggest classic hard rock / heavy metal album that I'm missing.

larvtard
10-10-2011, 12:08 PM
Hey.

JRA
10-10-2011, 12:12 PM
Believe it or not I don't actually own Ace of Spades.:eyes: It might be the biggest classic hard rock / heavy metal album that I'm missing.

Hey man, everyone has a classic they don't own. I for instance don't own any Queen or Thin Lizzy albums. You have heard the album though, right?

Sanitarium78
10-10-2011, 12:18 PM
Come on, guys, more posts. Even if you don't like the album/ think its too low or too high.


There might be more posts but you've put up like eight albums in three days. Slow it down a bit and let people have a chance to get in here and read your reviews. If you add too much to quickly people might get lost as to where the thread is at.

I know it's not hard to scroll back to previous pages but still there's no reason to rush this at all.

IrritatedTrout
10-10-2011, 12:18 PM
Hey man, everyone has a classic they don't own. I for instance don't own any Queen or Thin Lizzy albums. You have heard the album though, right?

About half of it. I have every intention of getting it sometime so I usually don't let myself listen to albums until I have physically bought them.

JRA
10-10-2011, 12:50 PM
There might be more posts but you've put up like eight albums in three days. Slow it down a bit and let people have a chance to get in here and read your reviews. If you add too much to quickly people might get lost as to where the thread is at.

I know it's not hard to scroll back to previous pages but still there's no reason to rush this at all.

People can comment albums further down the list that whatever the current one is. I do it all the time. I'll take your advice into consideration though.

daimonos
10-10-2011, 01:37 PM
I love Pierced From Within so much.

JRA
10-10-2011, 02:22 PM
I was originally gonna do three albums a day, but I think I'll scale it back to two. I'll still put the third one up later tonight though.

BloodoftheKings
10-10-2011, 02:33 PM
I prefer more albums in one day, no thread has to go on for 6 months.

JRA
10-10-2011, 05:18 PM
Actually that's exactly it. I wanted to knock this thing out in a month and I figured three albums per day would do that.

http://images.wikia.com/lyricwiki/images/2/2e/Death_-_Individual_Thought_Patterns.jpg

86. Death- Individual Thought Patterns


This is a case similar to Morbid Angel in that not every song is a stone cold classic, but every song that is a killer on here is easily in the top 500 metal songs of all time (good lord imagine that list). Right around here is when Chuck really started to shed most of his death metal tendencies to become more of a tech-thrash band like Watchtower. Itís in fact very debatable whether or not itís death metal at all. Some would argue that it deserves to be recognized because it had Death on the album cover and itís one of the highest selling death metal albums of all time. Hell for many people in the 90ís this was probably the introductory album to many fans for Death. And of course when fans love an album like this, theyíre only gonna dig deeper to find out what the man had put out before! And considering thereís nothing offensive by metal standards on here (like rappers or DJís or excessive groove sections) that makes it one of the best gateway metal albums ever.

Two additional details need to be addressed. The first are the lyrics to this album, which are so filled with disgust and vitriol that Chuck has never been angrier. Whatís even more incendiary is the fact that itís easy to figure out that most of these are directed at staunch supporters of extreme metal who thought Chuck had sold out with Human. Well if they thought that album was too progressive, only modern day troll and rage internet pictures could describe what they felt about this album!

The other detail is the lineup. The album line up reads like a MVP sports team for extreme metal musicians! Steve Digorio on bass, Gene Hoglan on drums, and legendary King Diamond guitarist Andy LaRoque on lead guitar doing dueling solos with Chuck! Can anyone imagine a similar lineup to this today? Kind of depressing when you think about it.

Recommended track:
Trapped In A Corner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spVZNOd2XSM)

GarageMetal468
10-11-2011, 07:50 AM
Come on, guys, more posts. Even if you don't like the album/ think its too low or too high.

http://www.ticketini.com/pub/photos/possessed_seven_churches_75792.jpg

87. Possessed- Seven Churches

I suppose I love Seven Churches more than Pierced From Within because itís more pure thrash metal with guttural vocals, and thus the songs are more distinguishable and memorable. But even then, fuckin A these riffs are demonic and evil. Even though there are four more Slayer albums to come on this list, I gurantee you they heard this album and became super jealous that they didnít come up with each and every one of the riffs on display. Possessed were also at times taking the satanic and hell lyrical subjects to far more terrifying levels than Slayer did on fucking Hell Awaits, their most evil album! Maybe thatís why Slayer began to shy away, they thought ďoh shit, if these guys are at this level now, imagine what theyíll be like on their next album!Ē

Well sadly, Possessedís second album went more in the direction of crossover punk thrash and thus they lost a lot of the brutality that made them great in the first place, the first bullet of many that ended this great bandís depressingly short career. But this album is a time-honored classic that will never be forgotten by the metal elite. Hail the Seven Churches!

Recommended track:
Holy Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYkfBtJwXn4)

:rocker::rocker::rocker:

Hell yeah, this one is an amazing classic!

JRA
10-11-2011, 07:55 AM
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85. Black Sabbath- Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath

Iím sure to many people it seems like blasphemy that any of the first six Sabbath albums appearing in the bottom 15 seems like blasphemy, but on a strictly musical level, and despite one of the most sinister album covers ever, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath is wildly inconsistent. Yes there are the classic bone crushing Sabbath tracks like the title track and Killing Yourself to Live, but the rest is very much an experimental Sabbath at work. Some of the experiments are brilliant, such as the acoustic riff based (and surprisingly positive) Spiral Architect, the 70ís prog rock of Sabbara Caddabra, but then there are some really bad songs, like Fluff (easily the worst Ozzy Sabbath instrumental) and the synth driven Who Are You (which was actually written by Ozzy all by himself). Iím sure the masses of Sabbath fans werenít bothered too much by the changes, since after reading several Sabbath history texts no indication was ever made. On itís own, the album is better than most, but it just wasnít as good as the previous four Sabbath albums (nor as the one after this one. . .)

Recommended Track:
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReuBms-qZQk)

daimonos
10-11-2011, 08:37 AM
I've never understood why Spiral Architect gets the praise it does. A National Acrobat is the true gem of the album.

Great pick though.

Sanitarium78
10-11-2011, 09:00 AM
I prefer more albums in one day, no thread has to go on for 6 months.

I wasn't talking about making it go that long. But if he put up two albums at the same time everyday and then gave everyone a day to respond it still would be done by next month.

http://991.com/newGallery/Black-Sabbath-Sabbath-Bloody-Sa-495094.jpg

85. Black Sabbath- Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath

Iím sure to many people it seems like blasphemy that any of the first six Sabbath albums appearing in the bottom 15 seems like blasphemy, but on a strictly musical level, and despite one of the most sinister album covers ever, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath is wildly inconsistent. Yes there are the classic bone crushing Sabbath tracks like the title track and Killing Yourself to Live, but the rest is very much an experimental Sabbath at work. Some of the experiments are brilliant, such as the acoustic riff based (and surprisingly positive) Spiral Architect, the 70ís prog rock of Sabbara Caddabra, but then there are some really bad songs, like Fluff (easily the worst Ozzy Sabbath instrumental) and the synth driven Who Are You (which was actually written by Ozzy all by himself). Iím sure the masses of Sabbath fans werenít bothered too much by the changes, since after reading several Sabbath history texts no indication was ever made. On itís own, the album is better than most, but it just wasnít as good as the previous four Sabbath albums (nor as the one after this one. . .)

Recommended Track:
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReuBms-qZQk)

Nice pick but too low. Sure there are a few weaker songs on it, I don't even consider Fluff a factor when I think about how good the album is. Looking For Today and Who Are You are OK songs. My least favorite is Sabbara Cadabbra, the song has just never done anything for me.

Also, no mention of A National Acrobat in your write up:nonono:

jhdeity
10-11-2011, 09:48 AM
I've never understood why Spiral Architect gets the praise it does. A National Acrobat is the true gem of the album.

Great pick though.

I'll just say this. I learned that certain Sabbath songs were created in alternate states of mind and were meant to be heard in altered states of mind.

My favorite Sabbath song ever is Megalomania. People who have never heard that song "altered" might not get the emotion and pure genius of that song. That's what makes Sabbath so incredible to me is that everyone has different favorite songs for different reasons.

As far as Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. My 2 favorite songs were always SBS and National Acrobat but Spiral Architect is one of those songs you have to experience. It's one of my 10 favorite Sabbath songs now. That's my opinion on why it gets so much praise. I think even straight it's the kind of song that grows on you. I didn't even like it for years and now I love the emotion it evokes in me.

Rocco44
10-11-2011, 10:07 AM
Great list so far. Love Individual Thought Patterns and how audible the bass is.

JRA
10-11-2011, 10:14 AM
Also, no mention of A National Acrobat in your write up:nonono:

:lol: Sorry. That is actually one of the better songs from that album. I just don't feel like doing a track by track breakdown of these albums. I just try my best to keep it between 150-400 words. It is a great tune though.

And Jhdeity, Megalomania is easily in my top 10 of Sabbath songs and I've never heard it stoned or drunk. Never needed to.;)

daimonos
10-11-2011, 11:32 AM
I'll just say this. I learned that certain Sabbath songs were created in alternate states of mind and were meant to be heard in altered states of mind.

My favorite Sabbath song ever is Megalomania. People who have never heard that song "altered" might not get the emotion and pure genius of that song. That's what makes Sabbath so incredible to me is that everyone has different favorite songs for different reasons.

As far as Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. My 2 favorite songs were always SBS and National Acrobat but Spiral Architect is one of those songs you have to experience. It's one of my 10 favorite Sabbath songs now. That's my opinion on why it gets so much praise. I think even straight it's the kind of song that grows on you. I didn't even like it for years and now I love the emotion it evokes in me.

Trust me man, you don't have to talk to me about listening to Sabbath in an 'altered state of mind'. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the first Sabbath album I ever bought when I was eight, and when I rediscovered it the summer before my senior year, I got reacquainted with it by spending my day in a camping chair in the middle of the woods by a pond with my bong and my iPod. Good times. That being said, I like Spiral Architect alot, I could just never figure out why it's alot of peoples favorite.

:lol:

jhdeity
10-11-2011, 12:15 PM
Trust me man, you don't have to talk to me about listening to Sabbath in an 'altered state of mind'. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the first Sabbath album I ever bought when I was eight, and when I rediscovered it the summer before my senior year, I got reacquainted with it by spending my day in a camping chair in the middle of the woods by a pond with my bong and my iPod. Good times. That being said, I like Spiral Architect alot, I could just never figure out why it's alot of peoples favorite.

:lol:

Cool deal. I was referring to a higher level of "altered" that makes you 20 times more emotional and loving of nature but same difference. hahaha

JRA
10-11-2011, 04:07 PM
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84. Morbid Angel- Formulas Fatal To The Flesh

Alright, we need to be honest with ourselves, the only reason this album is here (along with any notoriety this album has after about 1999) is because Ian Christe decided to make a bold statement in his book ďThe Complete Headbanging History of MetalĒ by listing this album as Morbid Angelís top work as opposed to Altars of Madness or Blessed are the sick. Such an action would undoubtedly cause plenty to track that album down, or revisit it.

Well, in Ianís defense, this is a pretty damn good album. It has its issues for sure (ending with three synth interludes in a row? lulz) But I think itís a solid return to form after the strange Domination. One statement that needs to be made is that this is the closest Trey and pals ever came to sounding like by-the-book death metal. Or rather I should say, Trey chose to actually have a guttural vocalist this time around. Personally I think Steve Tucker does a fantastic job with the vocals, and I think after hearing the abortion known as Illvd Divinium Insanvs, Iíd imagine a good 40% of the fanbase wants Steve back in the band (the other 60% just wants to see the David Vincent sing the songs they loved as kids).

So is it better than AOM or BITS? No. Is it a brilliant underrated death metal album that is worth a second look by the metal elite? Absofuckinglutely.

Reccomended track:
Invocation Of The Continual One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hze10awXrvw)

Dextrimental
10-11-2011, 04:15 PM
Great album. I have a lot of love for Morbid Angel, hence I haven't listened to the new record in full yet, but FFTTF is definitely an unsung hero of their catalog.

El Gordo
10-11-2011, 05:56 PM
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85. Black Sabbath- Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath

Iím sure to many people it seems like blasphemy that any of the first six Sabbath albums appearing in the bottom 15 seems like blasphemy, but on a strictly musical level, and despite one of the most sinister album covers ever, Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath is wildly inconsistent. Yes there are the classic bone crushing Sabbath tracks like the title track and Killing Yourself to Live, but the rest is very much an experimental Sabbath at work. Some of the experiments are brilliant, such as the acoustic riff based (and surprisingly positive) Spiral Architect, the 70ís prog rock of Sabbara Caddabra, but then there are some really bad songs, like Fluff (easily the worst Ozzy Sabbath instrumental) and the synth driven Who Are You (which was actually written by Ozzy all by himself). Iím sure the masses of Sabbath fans werenít bothered too much by the changes, since after reading several Sabbath history texts no indication was ever made. On itís own, the album is better than most, but it just wasnít as good as the previous four Sabbath albums (nor as the one after this one. . .)

Recommended Track:
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReuBms-qZQk)

Sabbath's best. But I know most people don't share that opinion.

treghet
10-11-2011, 07:24 PM
Personally I think Steve Tucker does a fantastic job with the vocals, and I think after hearing the abortion known as Illvd Divinium Insanvs, Iíd imagine a good 40% of the fanbase wants Steve back in the band (the other 60% just wants to see the David Vincent sing the songs they loved as kids).

The thing is, if Steve Tucker rejoined the band nearly all the old material would be cut from their set list. David Vincent may sound more sterile and monotone now, but at least he knows what the fans want to hear. Personally, I prefer it the way it is now. Especially when you consider that most of that abomination of an album was written by Trey anyway.

JRA
10-11-2011, 07:36 PM
The thing is, if Steve Tucker rejoined the band nearly all the old material would be cut from their set list.

That is a good point.

Rocco44
10-11-2011, 07:46 PM
Funny enough I checked out that Morbid Angel album years ago because I bought that Ian Christe book haha. I gotta revisit that album because I barely remember what it sounded like.

JRA
10-12-2011, 06:30 AM
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83. Kreator- Terribile Certainty

After the super brutal thrash/death metal hybrid Pleasure To Kill, Mille makes the conscious decision to sacrifice brutality for a straight ahead thrash approach. The result is this album. Itís actually a bit of a transitional piece, as Kreator wouldnít perfect this approach until Coma of Souls. Still, this is another brilliant entry onto Kreatorís resume. A positive is that scaling back their approach allows for a bit more variety in songwriting, which is always a plus. The band starts this album off with a MASSIVE bang, Blind Faith, one of the fastest Kreator songs ever. They likely consciously did this as one final nod to their old ways. Then there are the more restrained numbers such as Toxic Trace and Storming With Menace (or as I like to call it Storming. . . WITH MADNESS!), which make up for their lack of brutality by being the catchiest songs on the album. But the reason everyone remembers this album are the two singles, Behind The Mirror and the title track- the former with itís actually beautiful and melodic clean intro before descending into complete chaos that makes Slayer look like they cleaned up their room; and the title track with a brilliant drum intro by Ventor and going through vicious (and crippling) riff moments until getting to one of the greatest ďsingalongĒ choruses in thrash.

Again, Ian Christe dared to call this Kreatorís best album in his top 25 albums list. While I will again admit heís not quite right, Iíll admit itís again a great album that is well worth your attention.

Recommended track:
Blind Faith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmDQZQ5Jk64)

daimonos
10-12-2011, 09:29 AM
Honestly Formulas might be my favorite Morbid Angel album. :eyes:

JRA
10-12-2011, 07:34 PM
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82. Gamma Ray- Land of The Free

Iíve constantly made reference to the fact that Gamma Ray were like the Rolling Stones of the 90ís. It mirrors their career in the fact that at first they released a few great singles here and there, and went into a rather weird experimental stage that just didnít demonstrate complete greatness, before finally settling back to their roots and just knocking albums out of the park one after the other. This is the bandís Beggarís Banquet, right down to the first song, Rebellion In Dreamland, being their Sympathy For The Devil. What follows is a series of songs that comprise a master class in how heavy metal at itís core is supposed to be played: You need a riff, you need a great singer capable of majestic melody lines, and you need balls. And despite the occasional fruity section (like the ďtake my handĒ section of Man on a Mission) this band has balls in motherfucking spades. It was always disgusting to me how revisionist hipster journalists claimed that metal was represented by the likes of Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Rage Against The Machine and Tool in the 90's. Not that there was anything wrong with those bands, but since the tag of metal was a commercial damnation, all those bands preferred the pussified tag of "alternative rock." Kids, music never needed an alternative. Gamma Ray flew the flag of true metal in the 90ís way more than any schmuck under the alternative rock tag, and the likes of Vh1 owe them at least a 60 minute special as penance for their ignorance.

Recommended track:
Rebellion In Dreamland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeiX6bf2OPI)

PowerMaiden
10-12-2011, 08:05 PM
loving your thread too budy :fist: although very little Gamma Gay for me :wink:


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

hellawaits77ny
10-12-2011, 09:54 PM
99 albums better than Master of Puppets. If there is anything more retarded than than that in the history of the internet I'd love to see it.

I'm expecting to be turned on to some cool music so I'll tune in. Seriously though. 99 albums better than Master of Puppets? hahahahaha

Elitist Hipster Alert.... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!

Not to be a douche, to each his own, but I agree w/ this wholeheartedly.

hellawaits77ny
10-12-2011, 09:57 PM
Very interesting so far. 80+ albums better than Master of Puppets, Beneath The Remains, Convenant and Seasons In The Abyss.

This is why personal favorite lists are so cool to see.

treghet
10-12-2011, 10:11 PM
99 albums better than Master of Puppets. If there is anything more retarded than than that in the history of the internet I'd love to see it.

Because everybody is expected to love the album as much as you do? :tp:

jhdeity
10-12-2011, 10:55 PM
Because everybody is expected to love the album as much as you do? :tp:

This was referencing a Vio-lence / Machine Head post in my thread and we've since moved on.

I respect different opinions and really like 95% of the albums in this thread so far. More than Master of Puppets? Probably not and the only one that wouldn't make my Top 1000 is Gamma Ray but some people love them.

I rediscovered a Morbid Angel cd that I kinda wrote off as average and hearing it with fresh ears has definitely piqued my interest in revisiting some of their other stuff.

treghet
10-12-2011, 11:06 PM
Ah, alright.

JRA
10-13-2011, 07:34 AM
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81. Atheist- Unquestionable Presence

Death metal being played like jazz fusion. What a concept! This is essentially Rust In Peace 2! Quite a few of the songs are headbangable, but you canít because youíre just too amazed at whatís being put on display here. Kelly Shafer also has some delightfully quirky vocal patterns as he did on Piece Of Time that makes your inner geek bounce with joy. I suppose the only reason why it is so low is because itís very far removed from what death metal is all about. Death metal is about the atmosphere of being locked in a serial killers basement with bodies and bloody limbs strewn all about, and thereís really nothing here lyrically or musically that conveys that. Itís more of a spiritual album that anything else. Whoa. Spiritual extreme metal. What a concept!

Recommended song:
Unquestionable Presence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmfHoesWQ8Q)

GarageMetal468
10-13-2011, 07:50 AM
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81. Atheist- Unquestionable Presence

Death metal being played like jazz fusion. What a concept! This is essentially Rust In Peace 2! Quite a few of the songs are headbangable, but you canít because youíre just too amazed at whatís being put on display here. Kelly Shafer also has some delightfully quirky vocal patterns as he did on Piece Of Time that makes your inner geek bounce with joy. I suppose the only reason why it is so low is because itís very far removed from what death metal is all about. Death metal is about the atmosphere of being locked in a serial killers basement with bodies and bloody limbs strewn all about, and thereís really nothing here lyrically or musically that conveys that. Itís more of a spiritual album that anything else. Whoa. Spiritual extreme metal. What a concept!

Recommended song:
Unquestionable Presence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmfHoesWQ8Q)

Whoa way too low there! This album is one of it's own and is one of the best death metal releases ever! But hey I'm sure you have your reasons

JRA
10-13-2011, 07:42 PM
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80. Darkthrone- A Blaze In the Northern Sky

Death metal being played as black metal still sounds like Bathoryís logical successor to Under The Sign of the Black Mark. While itís not my favorite Darkthrone release, it does have my favorite Darkthrone song: In The Shadow of the Horns. And Kathaarian Life Code does have one of the all time great extreme metal rock & roll moments: in the middle of their death metal breakdown Culto utters ďAEH HEH HEH HEH HEH...Itís a true taste of evil.....UGH!Ē Another great moment is the ending riff section of Paragon Belial, which is pretty much the most evil section of music since Hellhammerís Triumph of Death! I also enjoy the dynamic of each member actually playing their own instrument rather than the typical one man black metal approach of most other bands in the genre. This album is a cold frosty treat, and if you love black metal, youíll love this

Reccommended track:
In The Shadow of The Horns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAajs4oMbpg)

JRA
10-14-2011, 07:09 AM
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79. Pantera- Far Beyond Driven

I hated this album at first. It’s funny, I remember my first concert was Ozzfest 2000 with Pantera co-headlining, and I hated them so much I walked out. A couple months later I ended up getting Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power (how did I make that transition? Details to come), and thought these were perfectly serviceable pieces of metal for a guy like me who loved his singing more than anything else. So how the hell did they go from that to these super swearing atonal grating assholes on stage? This album is how. Phil completely abandoned his gift of a voice for more of a hardcore punk tribute approach, and Dimebag thought it would a great idea to add screeching effects to his tone. These two facts caused me to ignore this album forever and resign myself to the “first two” Pantera albums. But one day something weird happened. I used to listen to my CD’s on shuffle a lot, and one day I got the urge to hear I’m Broken. After letting the song play out, I caught myself headbanging to a super thrashy riff with a nice rumbling rhythm section to it. That song in question was Slaughtered. That quickly became my favorite song on that album for awhile, with one of the most vicious breakdowns in heavy metal history (played at almost a faster tempo than the original chorus(!)). I didn’t even mind Phil’s vocals, in fact I thought they complemented the song very well! So after discovering that song, I decided to explore side 2 of the album alittle more and started to appreciate more of the album’s subtleties, such as Use My Third Arm being brilliant brutal death metal, 25 Years being essentially a slow 80’s power metal epic pushed as far as possible, the fantastic drumming on Becoming, and is that a synthesizer backing the solo on Strength Beyond Strength? Damn, this album rules!

I maintain this album isn’t quite as good as the previous two, but if nothing else, it is very worthy of the title of "first real metal album to go #1 in the pop charts."

Recommended song:
25 Years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmB6OFplI2k)

daimonos
10-14-2011, 11:24 AM
This was probably my favorite Pantera album back in the day. Use My Third Arm and Strength Beyond Strength are great songs.

Dextrimental
10-14-2011, 12:19 PM
I've always thought Far Beyond Driven had real melodic death metal and hardcore tendencies, which really reflected the kind of music the band were listening to at the time. It's still arguably their heaviest work, and is definitely worth of where it landed in the charts and where the band went afterwards.

R.I.P Dimebag

JRA
10-14-2011, 12:26 PM
I've always thought Far Beyond Driven had real melodic death metal tendencies

That's a really good point actually. I mean would No Love Lost and Cold really sound that out of place on post 94 Pantera?

Dextrimental
10-14-2011, 12:28 PM
That's a really good point actually. I mean would No Love Lost and Cold really sound that out of place on post 94 Pantera?

No they wouldn't, neither would Black Star either. I mean the band were down-tuning more, and the slide riff in Slaughtered could easily be found on an early Arch Enemy or At The Gates record.

JRA
10-14-2011, 02:22 PM
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78. Kreator- Extreme Aggressions

What a title. ďDear what are you listening to?Ē EXTREME AGGRESSIONS!!
Here we have Kreator still in a transitional stage from Terrible Certainty, but you can tell they are much, much closer to reaching their goal; and not only will they reach it by their next album, itís gonna be fucking huge. There arenít quite as many classics on this album as there were on the album before it, but there is a much stronger consistency here than there was then. There were times of Terrible Certainty where if you werenít in the right mood, you had to skip one or two songs. Not here. Everything here as at the very least great background music, and at best, above average punk thrash. And of course, no analysis of Extreme Aggressions is complete without tribute to one of the catchiest thrash songs ever... YOU CANíT DENY YOU CANíT DENY

















:eyes:

















BETRAYER DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH DAH BETRAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA BUM BUM BUM.

Recommended Song:
Betrayer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fAs_4yZsAI)

jhdeity
10-14-2011, 02:30 PM
No they wouldn't, neither would Black Star either. I mean the band were down-tuning more, and the slide riff in Slaughtered could easily be found on an early Arch Enemy or At The Gates record.

I always considered the riff at the last minute of Throes of Rejection being the soundtrack to the devil taking over your soul. I remember hearing that live and literally losing my mind for a minute. On the Trendkill tour they would just do that riff at the end of Third Arm and it had the same effect. Possibly my favorite riff ever.

Actually they did it at the end of Becoming most often. It fit perfectly at the end of that song too.

JRA
10-14-2011, 02:40 PM
I always considered the riff at the last minute of Throes of Rejection being the soundtrack to the devil taking over your soul. I remember hearing that live and literally losing my mind for a minute. On the Trendkill tour they would just do that riff at the end of Third Arm and it had the same effect. Possibly my favorite riff ever.

They also do that at the end of Becoming on 101 Live Proof. Truth be told I'd rather they just play the whole song but that's just me.

hellawaits77ny
10-14-2011, 02:47 PM
FBD - solid album :rocker:

JRA
10-15-2011, 07:45 AM
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77. Helloween- Walls of Jericho

The real Walls of Jericho mind you. While not as remarked on as its Keeper sequels, WOJ is one of the finest pure speed metal albums ever recorded. The band even provides some comical moments such as the hall of the mountain king mid section(!) of Gorgar, which is a song about losing all your cash to a pinball machine(!!). Whatís really funny about this album is the comparison of Kaiís vocals back then. While his voice suits this music very well, he was definitely justified in seeking out Michael Kiske as a successor. Thatís actually a surprisingly humble gesture for someone who was a frontman of a band. Another thing thatís remarkable is how incredibly fucking heavy the guitar sound is. Itís raw but not tinny, itís got heaviness and crunch, but itís not loud to the point where you get a headache from overproduction distortion, like so many albums today. Anyone who favors the art of the heavy metal song owes it to themselves to give this album a listen. Again, even though itís not as good as its successors, there are still plenty of great songs that put many of their pop metal contemporaries in 1985 to shame.

Recommended Song:
Phantoms of Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57OdJAw8c50)

JRA
10-15-2011, 03:18 PM
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76. Mercyful Fate- Melissa

Heavier than Piece of Mind, and more satanic than Show No Mercy, it’s Melissa! Like with Diamond Head 30 years ago, Metallica covering half the material from this classic has introduced this super evil satanic power metal band to a new generation of fans (even if half of them are too retarded to look up the actual album). The underground success of this album was proof that traditional metal was still relevant outside Maiden, Priest and Ozzy. It's also worth mentioning that "Into The Coven" was on the PMRC's list of filthy fifteen songs that all suburban white kids should go out and buy a zillion copies of. But unlike the hilariously harmless "We're Not Gonna Take It" Into The Coven had lines like "Suck the blood from this unholy knife, say with it after me...my soul BELONGS TO SATAN!" Oh yes, this shit was the real fucking deal!

Of course a major point of contention is King Diamond’s terrifying vocals, which are the stuff of legend. You hear about how they piss some metal heads off and that they must be the most powerful, threatening, heavy vocals in metal but instead we get... well something at times that sounds like a goofy ghost cartoon character. But like pre-Gamma Ray Kai Hansen, Diamond’s voice suits Fate’s music perfectly. If there is any flaw with this album and Fate’s sound, it’s the sometimes the guitar players are soloing when there’s also an excellent riff being played by the backing rhythm. Guys, you’re supposed to let the riff breathe and stand out. Shit like this is why I could never pay attention to Eric Clapton as a lead player, the riffs underneath were too good! That and perhaps I would have switched the running order so that the album ended with the crushing epic Satan’s Fall.

Mercyful Fate is a band that separates the metal men from the metal boys. Melissa and Don’t Break The Oath are essential!

Recommended track:
Satan’s Fall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8M6_Vpy86c)

El Gordo
10-15-2011, 03:23 PM
I must be a metal boy. Never been a fan. The music is great for the most part but I can't get past KD's vocals, just too silly. That's one hell of an album cover though.

larvtard
10-15-2011, 04:16 PM
Satan's Fall is awesome!! Is the rest of the album as good?

JRA
10-15-2011, 05:37 PM
Satan's Fall is awesome!! Is the rest of the album as good?


The other songs are as good as they can be for 4-5 minute songs. It's like most of the Iron Maiden albums from the 80's. You know the longest song is by far the best one, but you can't forget the shorter stuff like Children of The Damned, The Trooper, Murders In The Rue Morgue, The Evil That Men Do etc.

daimonos
10-16-2011, 12:13 AM
Satan's Fall is awesome!! Is the rest of the album as good?

:eek:

Where the hell have you been?!? Get on that, now!

Great pick though man, if I never got into Mercyful Fate the summer before 8th grade who knows where I'd be now. Probably the first 'blasphemous' band I ever got into. Really changed my perspective on metal as a whole. I'll never forget the day that I went into an FYE and bought Among the Living, Don't Break the Oath, and Show No Mercy all that the same time for 20 bucks. That day my life changed.

JRA
10-16-2011, 07:41 AM
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75. Slayer- South Of Heaven

Slayer decides to slow down....then speed up, then play fast again, then play slightly slower but still fast, whup now their slowing down again...now theyíre playing fast again...why did the metal world refer to this as Slayerís slow album again? My God, Slayer fans are idiots. Just because the opening song isnít a debatable reference to Jewish annihilation doesnít mean itís terrible!

In any case, Slayerís 4th THRASH album carries on in the tradition of quality, despite facing heavy competition in the speed department from the likes of Dark Angel and Kreator. While they certainly werenít slowing down completely and going Candlemass on our asses, we did see them expanding their artistic pallette. For one Tom Araya actually sings for the first time since 1983 on Behind The Crooked Cross and Spill The Blood, and we see Slayer start to grasp the idea of tension and release. This is best demonstrated on Live Undead, which deceivingly starts with a midpaced rhythm, Tom delivers a fantastic scream with THE PAAAAAAAAIN a couple of more lines then DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE *drum roll*, THRAAAASSSH. Yea, again, I have no idea why this is the slow album, especially considering there were slow moments on Reign In Blood (the beginning of Criminally Insane and Jesus Saves anyone?). This album is a classic and gives a giant middle finger to critics who say the band canít be like Metallica and write meaningful slow and fast music. It ainít my favorite song on the album, but Iíd rather listen to Mandatory Suicide over Orion anyday.

Reccommended Song:
South of Heaven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7rpoZE8X8Y)

IrritatedTrout
10-16-2011, 08:10 AM
I love South of Heaven. A real classic, I still remember the day I bought it with my high school girlfriend at the local mall.

larvtard
10-16-2011, 08:25 AM
Fuckin' love South of Heaven. Reign in Blood's more consistent as a running piece, but I feel like SOH has more personality and better songs overall.

El Gordo
10-16-2011, 10:07 AM
One of the best 15 or 20 metal albums ever, and one of the top 10 thrash albums for sure. Too low in my opinion, but hey, at least it's here.

JRA
10-16-2011, 02:47 PM
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74. Bathory- Blood Fire Death

Usually transitional albums are weak albums as the listener is just unable to relate to the wishy washy sound. Not the fucking case here. Releasing he had taken his blackened thrash sound as far as he could take it on the previous album, Quorthon begins to turn his back on the horned one and decides to shed light on a more terrifyingly real rape and pillage faction: the Viking hordes of Sweden. Thereís still plenty of bible blasphemy to be found here, with Dies Irae and Golden Walls of Heaven, but lyrically Quorthon starts to shift his focus on the brave soldiers who conquered the land for better or worse.

There are those who believe this is Bathoryís finest album. I disagree for, once again, lack of variety. Despite the expansion, structurally, there are really only two types of songs here. The ďEnter The Eternal Fire II: this time 10 minutes long and with acousticsĒ song, and the ďultra fast thrasher satanic songs with the guitar tone of Ride The Lightning, so you could pretend Metallica went black metal or something.Ē I also donít like how Quorthonís leads are buried in the mix. You really have to lean in to hear them, and that just bugs me, especially when Quorthon is such a brilliant lead player to begin with. Ah well, they canít all be perfect.


Recommended song:
A Fine Day To Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYnstGB3rM)

DementedX14
10-16-2011, 05:24 PM
Blood Fire Death needs to be in at least the top 50. Oh well, glad to see it on your list. It is one of my favorite black metal albums of all time.

JRA
10-17-2011, 07:37 AM
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73. Children of Bodom- Follow The Reaper

As time went on constructing this list I began to realize that if I was going to cover a broad metal taste with just 100 albums, the number of Children of Bodom albums would have to drop from 4 to 1. It was a difficult decision, and while I like quite a few of the songs from Hatebreeder better than anything on this album, Follow The Reaper was the best pick for this. As I said earlier, some bandís transitional albums are viewed as their weakspots. In Bodomís case, their transition from bare-bones yet still symphonically constructed black metal to raw vocals rock & roll is their greatest achievement. Itís like watching a tight ropewalker, walk across a dual pit, to the left is a pit of liquid nitrogen, and to the right is a pit of scalding lava. You hear the songs become more basic verse and chorus in structure, yet you can still hear the love for the super technical but very melodic leads and riffs that made Rust In Peace an enduring classic.

Recommended song:
Kissing The Shadows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6artm2JN3yE&feature=fvst)

jhdeity
10-17-2011, 08:04 AM
I hated Blood Fire Death the 1st time I heard it. Coming off one of the greatest albums ever made I thought he totally bitched out. A few spins later I grew to really like it. My 3rd favorite Bathory album.

The 1st cd I bought from Tower Records in Springfield, VA. One of the coolest record stores I ever stumbled into...

DementedX14
10-17-2011, 01:32 PM
73. Children of Bodom- Follow The Reaper

As time went on constructing this list I began to realize that if I was going to cover a broad metal taste with just 100 albums, the number of Children of Bodom albums would have to drop from 4 to 1. It was a difficult decision, and while I like quite a few of the songs from Hatebreeder better than anything on this album, Follow The Reaper was the best pick for this. As I said earlier, some bandís transitional albums are viewed as their weakspots. In Bodomís case, their transition from bare-bones yet still symphonically constructed black metal to raw vocals rock & roll is their greatest achievement. Itís like watching a tight ropewalker, walk across a dual pit, to the left is a pit of liquid nitrogen, and to the right is a pit of scalding lava. You hear the songs become more basic verse and chorus in structure, yet you can still hear the love for the super technical but very melodic leads and riffs that made Rust In Peace an enduring classic.

Recommended song:
Kissing The Shadows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6artm2JN3yE&feature=fvst)

Great choice.:party:

JRA
10-17-2011, 03:58 PM
Thanks. I thought a million people were gonna shit on me for that one.

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72. Celtic Frost- Morbid Tales

Still one of the heaviest albums ever. I actually hated this album at first. It was too one-note. Seriously, it felt like the entire time Warrior was just strumming on the same chord through 30 minutes. Plus it was disgustingly under produced. To be truthful, it wasnít until I bought To Mega Therion months later that I began to appreciate this band in their more primitive stages. Upon relistening, I notice that despite the very similar sound of each song, each song had itís own separate rhythm, feel, and drumming. Part of this had to do with the fact that I was paying more attention to riffs rather than the over all ensemble, and when each song just sounds like strumming over the same chord, youíll get bored with it very fast. Of course this sentiment is laughable to be now because every hook riff here is not only fantastic, but easily eligible for the top 100 riffs of all time. (well except Dethroned Emperor. Anyone else notice that riff is more or less Am I Evil?)

Recommended song:
Human/Into The Crypts of Rays (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45Dj4gEuwo)

Rocco44
10-17-2011, 04:26 PM
^ nice, I don't know much Celtic Frost besides To Mega Therion so I still gotta check that one out.

Good call on FTR. That one or Hatebreeder would definitely be in my top 100

mankvill
10-17-2011, 05:22 PM
That album would definitely be in my top 10, but any list it's included on is a good list! :D

SomewhereInTime72
10-17-2011, 09:22 PM
Awesome album. :horns:

JRA
10-18-2011, 07:51 AM
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71. Mastodon- Remission

First off, that album cover. Holy shit that is awesome. A horse on fire. Never has animal cruelty been so awesome. Even if that cover was released in the 80's it would still rule (they would need to make the lettering way more extravagant though).

I had the exact same problem with this album that I did Morbid Tales, too much detuned D strumming, not enough higher notes. Plus, this band was really bad at writing songs longer than 7 minutes long. That closing riff of Trainwreck would not stop fucking being played! Either move onto something else after 4 bars or end the fucking song!

Unlike Morbid Tales though, there were things I liked about this album at first. Workhorse was a fantastic song, Burning Man was an underrated speed thrasher, Crusher Destroyer had some sweet surf-like dueling solos, and Mother Puncher was detuned heavy, but it just worked. This was the last Mastodon album I got in 2007, and for a while I thought it was their weakest. But over time, I began to appreciate it as a modern metal classic; something that is in frighteningly short supply nowadays. I've also come to love it much more than the stuff they’re putting out now. I try to never fault a band for evolving their sound, but its a shame we'll never heard them sound like this again. They really had something special here. Oh well. We’ve had a lot of terrible bands hit the mainstream with metal in the past 15 years, but this album and Mastodon deserves all the accolades it gets.

Recommended Track:
Mother Puncher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muFtXyTZKKY&feature=related)

larvtard
10-18-2011, 09:07 AM
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71. Mastodon- Remission

First off, that album cover. Holy shit that is awesome. A horse on fire. Never has animal cruelty been so awesome. Even if that cover was released in the 80's it would still rule (they would need to make the lettering way more extravagant though).

I had the exact same problem with this album that I did Morbid Tales, too much detuned D strumming, not enough higher notes. Plus, this band was really bad at writing songs longer than 7 minutes long. That closing riff of Trainwreck would not stop fucking being played! Either move onto something else after 4 bars or end the fucking song!

Unlike Morbid Tales though, there were things I liked about this album at first. Workhorse was a fantastic song, Burning Man was an underrated speed thrasher, Crusher Destroyer had some sweet surf-like dueling solos, and Mother Puncher was detuned heavy, but it just worked. This was the last Mastodon album I got in 2007, and for a while I thought it was their weakest. But over time, I began to appreciate it as a modern metal classic; something that is in frighteningly short supply nowadays. I've also come to love it much more than the stuff theyíre putting out now. I try to never fault a band for evolving their sound, but its a shame we'll never heard them sound like this again. They really had something special here. Oh well. Weíve had a lot of terrible bands hit the mainstream with metal in the past 15 years, but this album and Mastodon deserves all the accolades it gets.

Recommended Track:
Mother Puncher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muFtXyTZKKY&feature=related)

Mother Puncher's my favorite too! And yeah, whenever I do play this album I always skip the long songs. Ol' Nessie is solid, though.

JRA
10-18-2011, 10:02 AM
And yeah, whenever I do play this album I always skip the long songs. Ol' Nessie is solid, though.

I've actually grown to like Ol Nessie and even Trainwreck, when I started noticing that Brann and Troy were going crazy with different fills during that closing salvo. Trilobite is a snorefest though.

IrritatedTrout
10-18-2011, 10:50 AM
Are there other Mastodon albums later in the list?

JRA
10-18-2011, 11:48 AM
There's one more.

Rocco44
10-18-2011, 12:22 PM
Love Remission. I was just starting to get into metal and I heard "March of the Fire Ants" on a headbangers ball compilation and that main riff blew my mind. As a complete album, Leviathan probably edges it out for me but still a great fucking album.

Dextrimental
10-18-2011, 12:50 PM
I love Remission, and every song on it, Trainwreck could be my favorite!

JRA
10-18-2011, 03:45 PM
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70. Death- Scream Bloody Gore


This album on the other hand, I fell in love with on the first listen. I was still cautious on guttural vocals, but there werenít any blast beats or the more extreme elements of modern death metal, so it was much more accessible to me. This album has one flaw, and that is that two songs have the exact same pick scraping intro into the same first few notes, giving off a feeling of ďDidnít I just hear this song?Ē (which happens on Mutilation and the title track). But that detail aside, everything else about this album is a wonderfully disgusting mess. From the B movie schlock album cover to hilariously offensive lyrics like ďSuicidal Preacher hangs himselfĒ and ďfucking raping zombie whoresĒ and Chuckís ugly raw riffs being the glue that holds the whole thing together. His leads werenít bad around this time either. He wasnít quite as melodically developed as he would become around Human, but you can totally tell that he was destined for hall of fame as a lead player. But with this album, he was already in the hall of fame for heavy metal as a genre. An instant classic.

Recommended Song:
Evil Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDRtEVivGo)

illuminatus917
10-18-2011, 06:37 PM
This one would be in my top 10. As would Symbolic.

IrritatedTrout
10-19-2011, 02:31 AM
Love that cover.

JRA
10-19-2011, 07:30 AM
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69. Immortal- Pure Holocaust

Immortal were smart enough to realize that the best way to serve a burgeoning genre is to write normal songs with it. Immortal did that even during their lo-fi ďkvltĒ days. What we have is a simple series of songs that play hard and rock hard with verse chorus structures. If you consider merely saying the songs name during an alternate riff a chorus that is. I suppose itís one step more in that direction above Black Sabbath, considering Black Sabbath never had choruses. The first three songs here are staples of black metal (and of their live shows), but my personal favorite is the title track, for being a perfect mix of thrash riffs and spike through the skull moments. This album is just as cold, dark and grim as any other black metal album in the top 5, this one just happens to actually rock. Youíd think that super elitist black metal fans would hate this album (and Immortalís career) for such ďmainstream tendencies,Ē but they donít. Perhaps those guys arenít so bad after all.

Recommended Track:
Pure Holocaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw--hL0xij8)

JRA
10-19-2011, 06:53 PM
No love for Pure Holocaust, I'm shocked.


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68. Anthrax- Persistence of Time

Anthraxís only entry on this list is disturbingly underrated. The litmus test in metal is that those prefer melody prefer Spreading The Disease, where as those who prefer raw thrash prefer Among The Living. I say, why the Christ canít you have both? Plus, try to squeeze a third element in there to prove the world how supernatural you are? Once again, to quote Ultraboris, ďMother of god...EPIC THRASH.Ē It blows my mind that the Vh1 Classic crowd can name all of the first 6 songs from Among The Living (classics they may be), but when it comes to this album they can only name the cover of Got The Time which has been spoonfed to them. Donít get me wrong, the cover is a barrel full of fun, but, as a first single should do, it represents the tip of the iceberg of the destruction this album has to offer. This album is Joe Pesci from Goodfellas saying ďoh you think weíre funny? Funny how, am I like a clown do I amuse you?Ē but before giving Ray Liotta a chance to retort, it takes a cement brick the size of the Yukon Territories and smashes you in the temple with it. Itís a shame this album doesnít get more recognition. Part of the problem was it was released the same year as Cowboys From Hell, Rust In Peace, and Painkiller. I suppose there was only room for three kings, but donít let that dissuade you from how fucking powerful this album is.

Recommended song:
Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vMbmIhyKk)

Sanitarium78
10-19-2011, 07:08 PM
Easily Anthrax's best album. More epic, progessive, mature and darker than anything else they've done. Why they ignore this album live ever though fans always say they need to to more off it is baffling.

This is way too low. It would be in my top 20 of all time. I honestly don't see how that many other albums are better than it.

PowerMaiden
10-19-2011, 07:22 PM
amazing album, I prefer Among and Spreading just by a bit


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

JRA
10-19-2011, 07:32 PM
Seeing all these "That should be in the top 50" comments is making me slightly nervous of what they're going to think when they see the actual top 50. :eyes:

Dextrimental
10-19-2011, 08:07 PM
Seeing all these "That should be in the top 50" comments is making me slightly nervous of what they're going to think when they see the actual top 50. :eyes:

Who cares? Knowing your top 50 is going to include some stuff that would be controversially high in terms of what is the norm is good if you ask me, provides some good discussion, and actually gives your list a point.

JRA
10-19-2011, 08:21 PM
Who cares? Knowing your top 50 is going to include some stuff that would be controversially high in terms of what is the norm is good if you ask me, provides some good discussion, and actually gives your list a point.


I said "slightly." ;)

I think they'll be controversial only in that "they're way too fucking high" though.

DethMaiden
10-19-2011, 08:22 PM
Anthraxís only entry on this list is disturbingly underrated.

Yeah, no.

IrritatedTrout
10-20-2011, 01:07 AM
That's another classic I need to get.

JRA
10-20-2011, 07:51 AM
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67. Gamma Ray- Somewhere Out In Space

A second home run out of the park by the most underrated band of the 90’s. This one isn’t touted as much by Gamma Ray fans because it has a lot of dumb interludes to it. While this may prove an itch if you play it on CD in the car, chewing away the fat with an iPod playlist makes this album fucking unstoppable. Rather than repeat themselves and start the album off with a slow burning epic, it chooses to kick you in the throat with double bass destruction before kicking off one of their finest songs, Beyond The Black Hole, this band’s Gimme Shelter (why yes I am sticking with the Rolling Stones motif. Problem http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff452/Khrono2007/new_troll_face.gif?). It’s about a zillion times more intense than that, but yes. This was actually a fine way to introduce the band’s new drummer Hans Zimmerman. Gamma Ray’s lineup had swapped once again, but after the success of this album and its follow-up, the foursome were smart enough to recognize they had something special, and this classic lineup remains to this day. Another great metal album in the hole, and things would only get better.

Recommended Song:
Rising Star/Shine On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxKmWTWETA)

jhdeity
10-20-2011, 12:49 PM
No love for Pure Holocaust, I'm shocked.


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68. Anthrax- Persistence of Time

Anthraxís only entry on this list is disturbingly underrated. The litmus test in metal is that those prefer melody prefer Spreading The Disease, where as those who prefer raw thrash prefer Among The Living. I say, why the Christ canít you have both? Plus, try to squeeze a third element in there to prove the world how supernatural you are? Once again, to quote Ultraboris, ďMother of god...EPIC THRASH.Ē It blows my mind that the Vh1 Classic crowd can name all of the first 6 songs from Among The Living (classics they may be), but when it comes to this album they can only name the cover of Got The Time which has been spoonfed to them. Donít get me wrong, the cover is a barrel full of fun, but, as a first single should do, it represents the tip of the iceberg of the destruction this album has to offer. This album is Joe Pesci from Goodfellas saying ďoh you think weíre funny? Funny how, am I like a clown do I amuse you?Ē but before giving Ray Liotta a chance to retort, it takes a cement brick the size of the Yukon Territories and smashes you in the temple with it. Itís a shame this album doesnít get more recognition. Part of the problem was it was released the same year as Cowboys From Hell, Rust In Peace, and Painkiller. I suppose there was only room for three kings, but donít let that dissuade you from how fucking powerful this album is.

Recommended song:
Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vMbmIhyKk)

Totally agree. I think State of Euphoria is underrated also. Not as many good songs as this one but some songs I would kill to hear live again.

JRA
10-20-2011, 04:03 PM
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66. Overkill- Taking Over

Overkill album #2 (both figuratively and literally) has a cover, which is the perfect harbinger of whatís to come. Four assault rifles pointed at you, and you can bet they will drill you into pieces. This album has a tad more variety to it. You have your face ripping fuck tracks, your Iron Maiden epics, your slow anthems, itís like a thrash buffet! Itís also the last album where Blitzís voice could solidly carry a melody before becoming the vicious high-pitched gang leader we know today. Not to say that any quality of vocals was lost between this album and Under The Influence, it was just became something different. Even though I have mad love for the sequel to Overkill's eponymous song, thereís a very special moment on this album in the one-two punch of this album that must be mentioned. Deny The Cross and Wrecking Crew have more or less the same primary riff, played with the same sweep chugging riffing style. Yet when you realize it, there isnít a bulb that goes off in your head that says ďI just heard this, how unoriginalĒ and thatís where the rhythm section comes in. Even though the riffs are 95% the same, thereís a subtle difference in how not only the riff is executed, but how its supported by the tempo and feel of the song. The riffs are the same, the bpms are the same, but theyíre still two separately identifiable songs. Itís moments like this that not only made Overkill geniuses, but one of the best (and criminally underrated) metal bands in the business.

Recommended song:
Overkill II: The Nightmare Continues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bE8l3YPJHs)

El Gordo
10-20-2011, 04:34 PM
66. Overkill- Taking Over

Overkill album #2 (both figuratively and literally) has a cover, which is the perfect harbinger of whatís to come. Four assault rifles pointed at you, and you can bet they will drill you into pieces. This album has a tad more variety to it. You have your face ripping fuck tracks, your Iron Maiden epics, your slow anthems, itís like a thrash buffet! Itís also the last album where Blitzís voice could solidly carry a melody before becoming the vicious high-pitched gang leader we know today. Not to say that any quality of vocals was lost between this album and Under The Influence, it was just became something different. Even though I have mad love for the sequel to Overkill's eponymous song, thereís a very special moment on this album in the one-two punch of this album that must be mentioned. Deny The Cross and Wrecking Crew have more or less the same primary riff, played with the same sweep chugging riffing style. Yet when you realize it, there isnít a bulb that goes off in your head that says ďI just heard this, how unoriginalĒ and thatís where the rhythm section comes in. Even though the riffs are 95% the same, thereís a subtle difference in how not only the riff is executed, but how its supported by the tempo and feel of the song. The riffs are the same, the bpms are the same, but theyíre still two separately identifiable songs. Itís moments like this that not only made Overkill geniuses, but one of the best (and criminally underrated) metal bands in the business.

Recommended song:
Overkill II: The Nightmare Continues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bE8l3YPJHs)

I think you love Overkill almost as much as I do. This album has always presented a bit of a problem for me -- I think the songs themselves are some of Overkill's most vicious but I think it's Blitz's worst vocal performance. I much prefer the snarly, shrieking Blitz we would hear later on. That said, his performance on "Deny the Cross" is nothing short of awesome, but that's because of the contrast between the two halves of the verse.

I'd love for them to switch up what they play from this album live. I would kill to hear "Fatal If Swallowed".

JRA
10-21-2011, 06:35 AM
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65. Mayhem- De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas

You know what, Iím just gonna steal what Manky said.

Here they are. The most infamous metal band on the planet. Mayhem was rife with member suicides, member murders, church burnings, and a ton of other illegal activities, but what came from it was a fantastic black metal album that still holds up to what most black metal should be compared to. The first album with vocalist Attila Csihar, his inhuman vocals gave a new benchmark to evil metal music. An absolute classic in every sense of the word.

The only thing I have to add to that is Freezing Moon is the greatest black metal song ever.

Recommended Song:
Freezing Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58o17dnB6hk)

Epidemic Reign
10-21-2011, 06:48 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuunnnneeeeeerrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaauuuuuugggh hhhhhhhhhhhhh

FOG :rocker:

JRA
10-21-2011, 06:28 PM
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64. Deicide- Legion

The debate ranges on to this day: which album is better, the self-titled or Legion? Well, the self-titled. The self-titled set such a high standard that frankly for a little while I didnít think any death metal band or album would top it, not even the Deicide themselves. And...they didnít. Iíll say this for Legion, if thereís one thing it has that the first album didnít itís nonstop double bass drumming. Itís executed in a way thatís tasteful as well, as opposed to thousands of other bands who have 400 doublebass per minute while the regular beat is only 140 bpm (Children of Bodom suffer from this problem sometimes actually). Unless your name is Scott Travis, stop fucking doing this you assholes. You donít sound heavy, you sound boring. There's no dynamic to what you do. You sound like a thousand Pantera clones who would rather be caught with the entire locker room fucking you up your ass than with a copy of an Iron Maiden album.

I guess my biggest issue here is that the choruses arenít quite as big and overt. Another thing I miss is the black/death metal vocal harmonies. Hearing the guttural growls along with high screeches made the first album sound about 1000 times more demonic, possessed, and catchier than it should have. I suppose itís nice to hear Glen just go with one direction and move forward, but the songs and choruses donít stand out as much. Really most of the flaws of this album can simply be pin pointed to the fact that itís just not as good coming hot off the heels of the previous effort. But on its own itís a solid slab of death metal that is well worth owning.

Recommended song:
Holy Deception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH7ZZjBaa-Q)

Natrlhi
10-21-2011, 06:55 PM
I've been away lately and have a shitload of catching up to do, but something tells me there's a lot of awesome going on in this thread. I skimmed through and saw a lot of good shit. Gonna have to subscribe to this one and return later when I have more time.

JRA
10-22-2011, 08:33 AM
Awesome

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63. Megadeth- Killing Is My Business...and Business is Good

Dave Mustaineís vengeful debut against his peers....wasnít quite up to the standard in terms of what they had put out at that point. The songs were definitely there and the evidence that Megadeth was a much better musical unit that Metallica was apparent immediately, but something was just missing. They definitely drew first blood, but it wasnít a blow that would win any decisions via the judges. In any case, many love this album because itís Megadethís most raw and primitive album. Whatís funny to me is despite being so primitive, itís still miles ahead of most thrash/death metal bands for the sheer musicianship alone. This album was the beginning of a journey in which Dave and pals would slowly shed the skin of brutality to become one of the most technical monsters on the planet. Its a shame Dave never brings himself to play any of this stuff live anymore, considering its a big reason why people fell in love with him in the first place. Even though this is the first step, itís also the first of four fantastic metal albums that would prove why Dave was too tough to hold in Metallica.

Recommended song:
Looking Down The Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7kQJma1HQQ)

jhdeity
10-22-2011, 09:36 AM
Awesome

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63. Megadeth- Killing Is My Business...and Business is Good

Dave Mustaineís vengeful debut against his peers....wasnít quite up to the standard in terms of what they had put out at that point. The songs were definitely there and the evidence that Megadeth was a much better musical unit that Metallica was apparent immediately, but something was just missing. They definitely drew first blood, but it wasnít a blow that would win any decisions via the judges. In any case, many love this album because itís Megadethís most raw and primitive album. Whatís funny to me is despite being so primitive, itís still miles ahead of most thrash/death metal bands for the sheer musicianship alone. This album was the beginning of a journey in which Dave and pals would slowly shed the skin of brutality to become one of the most technical monsters on the planet. Its a shame Dave never brings himself to play any of this stuff live anymore, considering its a big reason why people fell in love with him in the first place. Even though this is the first step, itís also the first of four fantastic metal albums that would prove why Dave was too tough to hold in Metallica.

Recommended song:
Looking Down The Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7kQJma1HQQ)

Best possible recommended song.

JRA
10-22-2011, 02:17 PM
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62. Enslaved- Frost

Some people say this is Viking metal. Well that’s unfortunate because I don’t take Viking metal seriously as a genre. Look, there’s screeching vocals, blast beats, tremolo riffs...it’s black metal. Look Burzum is one of the defining bands of the whole black metal genre, and the only song that even mentions Satan is an instrumental...on an EP. So Frost is a black metal album about norse mythology and Viking culture. Nothing wrong with that, the latter half of Chuck’s career in Death was death metal about human feelings and emotions, something that being with half of Cynic rubbed off on him. But back to Frost. I discovered this album through IU’s underground metal club. I didn’t take it quite that serious at first, but after listening to it two or three more times I hadn’t fallen this in love with an album and band since At The Heart of Winter by Immortal! Like most of the albums on this list, what I love about it are the myriad of different styles! You have your epic songs like Fenris and Svarte Vidder, your crushing doom songs like Gylfaginning, your raging black metal thrash songs like Jotunblood and Wotan. There’s even a fucking ballad on here (Yggdrassil). A BLACK. METAL. BALLAD. And it rules!! If you love hi-fi black metal, put this on your shopping list. You won’t regret it!

Recommended Song:
Wotan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FOkwTkzT6U)

Rocco44
10-22-2011, 05:05 PM
Nice, definitely one of those albums I need to listen to more. I know post Below The Lights Enslaved well but I need to listen to their early material more.

As for "Viking metal", I wouldn't really call it a genre due to the fact that any band can write songs about norse mythology and play in any style of metal.

illuminatus917
10-22-2011, 08:06 PM
As for "Viking metal", I wouldn't really call it a genre due to the fact that any band can write songs about norse mythology and play in any style of metal.

Not really sure I follow this.

Rocco44
10-22-2011, 11:19 PM
Not really sure I follow this.

Yeah, I suck at wording things haha. I'm basically saying that lyrical content alone shouldn't classify genres.

IrritatedTrout
10-23-2011, 05:32 AM
Killing Is My Business is great and Frost is actually one of the few black metal albums I enjoy.

JRA
10-23-2011, 07:48 AM
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61. Bathory- Hammerheart

The beginning of so-called Viking metal is really just a Manowar album with shitty production. Here we see Quorthon make the full transition he was hinting at with Blood Fire Death, and as you can tell, I like it a bit more than some of the other Bathory albums. Even though he sounds like a gargles a million razorblades, I rather enjoy Quorthon’s singing. The drunken off-key raspiness has a charm to it what can I say. Another thing worth mentioning is that the speed is completely gone from Bathory’s sound. Quite a few Black Sabbath songs are faster than this. But here Quorthon is smart enough to utilize a separate BPM for each song, making them stand out that much better, and ultimately leading to speed not being an issue. The production is also better than the previous album as well, with Quorthon’s brilliant solos cutting through the speakers once again. Not only that, he’s absolutely on the top of his game lead wise here. If you don’t find yourself air shredding to One Rode To Asa Bay’s solo, go back to sucking off Slipknot.

While it is a little sad to see Quorthon leave the greatness of the black metal sound completely behind here, its all worth it as he’s completely immersed himself in something new and forging onward. Just like the great vikings of the north. And it’s good too.

Recommended Song:
Song To Hail Up High/Home Of Once Brave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esI8PjCzgCU)

Sepultura69
10-23-2011, 11:28 AM
If you donít find yourself air shredding to One Rode To Asa Bayís solo, go back to sucking off Slipknot.


This. All of this :fist:

JRA
10-23-2011, 07:44 PM
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60. Darkthrone- Transylvanian Hunger

You know, I would have a little more sympathy for Fenriz not wanting to rewrite this album again if his desire wasnít purely motivated by trolling black metal fans. Because truth be told, there is so much minimalism going on here that if he were to copy the formula again, that thereís no way this album would be able to stand on its own It's legacy would be cheapened. I understood the concept behind TH pretty quickly, but I bounced back and forth between loving and hating it for so long. I think deep down all human beings believe that variety is the spice of life, because thereís no way any other rock band could stand to essentially write 9-10 songs with the exact same groove/beat/tempo, even if they were opportunists who believed in the ďif it ainít broke why fix itĒ philosophy of finding a hit and rewriting it until it doesnít sell units anymore. The truth is the spirit of the ideal of TH is the same ideal of Gamma Ray of sticking to the 70ís/80ís spirit of metal without any modern trends or ideas interfering with your music. At the end of the day, you canít help but have love for that. Every bit of classic black metal as the retard fans who ruin this music say it is.

Recommended Songs:
Skald au Satanís Skol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I--jB2lenMM)
Transilvanian Hunger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iaj2w7Bp58)

IrritatedTrout
10-24-2011, 12:36 AM
Gotta be honest, I think that album is hilariously bad. :lol: My buddy bought it and whenever we want to say that an album is boring and or all the songs are exactly the same we just say it's that bands Transilvanian Hunger.

hellawaits77ny
10-24-2011, 01:41 AM
The only thing I have to add to that is Freezing Moon is the greatest black metal song ever.

Recommended Song:
Freezing Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58o17dnB6hk)

Yes, I agree!!!!


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64. Deicide- Legion

The debate ranges on to this day: which album is better, the self-titled or Legion? Well, the self-titled. The self-titled set such a high standard that frankly for a little while I didn’t think any death metal band or album would top it, not even the Deicide themselves. And...they didn’t. I’ll say this for Legion, if there’s one thing it has that the first album didn’t it’s nonstop double bass drumming. It’s executed in a way that’s tasteful as well, as opposed to thousands of other bands who have 400 doublebass per minute while the regular beat is only 140 bpm (Children of Bodom suffer from this problem sometimes actually). Unless your name is Scott Travis, stop fucking doing this you assholes. You don’t sound heavy, you sound boring. There's no dynamic to what you do. You sound like a thousand Pantera clones who would rather be caught with the entire locker room fucking you up your ass than with a copy of an Iron Maiden album.

I guess my biggest issue here is that the choruses aren’t quite as big and overt. Another thing I miss is the black/death metal vocal harmonies. Hearing the guttural growls along with high screeches made the first album sound about 1000 times more demonic, possessed, and catchier than it should have. I suppose it’s nice to hear Glen just go with one direction and move forward, but the songs and choruses don’t stand out as much. Really most of the flaws of this album can simply be pin pointed to the fact that it’s just not as good coming hot off the heels of the previous effort. But on its own it’s a solid slab of death metal that is well worth owning.

Recommended song:
Holy Deception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH7ZZjBaa-Q)

One of my all-time favorites. So brutal

JRA
10-24-2011, 07:11 AM
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59. Darkthrone- Under a Funeral Moon

and yet despite my high appraisal of what the misadventurous follies of Transilvanian Hunger accomplished, I still find myself loving this album slightly more. Why? Well because of its more traditional focus on diverse songwriting and diverse riffing styles. Darkthroneís first ďrealĒ black metal album certainly indicates progress in a certain direction. The production was grimier, the guitar sound was slightly tinier, the ugly screeching vocals were much louder in the mix, the feeling overall colder. Once again we also have Fenriz, Nocturno and Zephyrus at work here. I suppose because of the fantastic band dynamic going on here, another one of the reasons that I rate this album higher than TH is because it represents an actual band, rather than your typical one man black metal job. Itís a shame that Zephryus was marginalized out of the band of his own accord or not. I know Fenriz is heavily involved in the music, but Iíd like to think Zephyrus wrote SOME of the riffs on TH. If I was going to objectively submit a greatest black metal albums list, I would put Transilvanian Hunger higher. But for me personally, UAFM takes the cake.

Recommended Songs:
Under a Funeral Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtT3AIX3_js)
Crossing The Triangle of Flames (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFEGfiSMkbU&feature=fvsr)

DethMaiden
10-24-2011, 07:17 AM
You have A Blaze in the Northern Sky lowest of the three? Yikes.

JRA
10-24-2011, 10:48 AM
You have A Blaze in the Northern Sky lowest of the three? Yikes.


Yea, its amazing how things change.

JRA
10-24-2011, 05:54 PM
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58. Death- Human

For many death metal purists this was Chuck’s last great album. Others consider Chuck to be ripping off Cynic while he employs two members of the band. I say the latter need to be chucked into a concentration camp along with those who think Maiden sucked after Paul Di Anno was kicked out.

I suppose the reason why I love Human more than Scream Bloody Gore is it does more with less. There are 8 tracks here and 6 of them are classics and well-deserved live staples. Even though most of the songs here follow the same pattern of verse-chorus-solo-verse-chorus-cold-stop, you can fault Chuck for finding a great formula and squeezing all he can out of it. This album is actually unique to me because usually the first thing I remembered about Death songs were the riffs, but with Human the first thing I remembered the songs were the choruses. To me that really proves that Chuck knew what he was doing from a songwriting perspective. After all, hooks are the choruses. Of course that’s not to say the riffs were subpar, as there were great riffs sprinkled everywhere throughout this album, but Chuck had managed to ingeniously subvert the idea of making the hook the chorus instead of the riff, and doing so while still making the songs start out with a bang.

Recommended Songs:
Suicide Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8vqGzUlyqE)
Secret Face (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsuHGj7dVg)

GarageMetal468
10-24-2011, 06:29 PM
For many death metal purists this was Chuck’s last great album. Others consider Chuck to be ripping off Cynic while he employs two members of the band. I say the latter need to be chucked into a concentration camp along with those who think Maiden sucked after Paul Di Anno was kicked out.


These people should join the others in the aforementioned concentration camp as well. I think they all forgot that an album called Symbolic came out 4 years later as well.

JRA
10-24-2011, 06:40 PM
Eh, nah. That fate is reserved for people who's opinions are objectively wrong (see Maiden comment), I actually clarify why I give a bit of lee way to the post Human haters later on.

JRA
10-25-2011, 07:45 AM
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57. Burzum- Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

This would be the greatest black metal album of all time if it weren’t for the closing 14 minutes of new age mystic bullshit known as Tomhet. Why the fuck does Varg put dumb shit like this in Black Metal albums? He knows it has nothing, NOTHING to do with its sound, and there are zero guitars in it, so it can’t even pass itself off like a Laguna Sunrise piece.

Anyways that aside, this is a fantastic piece of lo-fi extreme metal. Det Som Engang Var, the 2112 of black metal, in particular sounds like something out of the Donkey Kong Country soundtrack (the factory levels). The irony is as much as I think Tomhet isn’t appropriate here, I think the guitars and keyboards interplay with each other spectacularly. Almost as if they were part of the same wavelength, with guitars handling the low end and keyboards handling the high end (like with guitars and bass). Despite the art pretentions of this record, there are a few great “rock moments” sprinkled in here and there. Most of them occurring in the song Det Som Engang Var, like when the double bass kicks in for the first time, and when the guitar solo rips in, you almost think that after merely mimicking the songs main riff on the higher strings he’s almost going to rip into his own lead but that never quite happens.

Burzum is not for everyone. Partially because of Varg’s reputation, and partially because of the alienating way Varg goes about making the music, but if you decide to get your hands on a Burzum album, this is the perfect starting point.

Recommended Song:
Det Som Engang Var (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBll5LyMnAw)

DethMaiden
10-25-2011, 08:48 AM
Tomhet fucking rules and this IS the best Burzum album.

JRA
10-25-2011, 02:42 PM
Truth be told, as much as I bag on Tomhet, out of all Burzum's synth stuff, it annoys me the least.

JRA
10-25-2011, 04:17 PM
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56. Death- Symbolic

Human was kickass because it carried a high quality consistency throughout 8 tracks. Of course, this is something all above average musicians and songwriters are able to do with ease. It is a much more difficult task to carry that quality through 10 or 12 tracks. See with 9 tracks or less it’s easier because there’s less music and you simply HAVE to pick what you feel are the best songs of your 20 or however many you jammed for that album. With 10 or more there’s more wiggle room for weak shit.

Not on this album there fucking isn’t.

This album is absurdly popular now but there was a time when it wasn’t. According to the re-release’s album notes the metal community was pissed because it sounded nothing like death metal. The blast beats were gone, the guttural vocals were gone, Chuck was basically putting out an Amorphis album at this point. Kind of sad, it may be sub-par by brutal death metal standards, it is genre defining by regular heavy metal standards. Any half-baked band would love to have even the weakest songs from this album as their biggest hit. But Chuck proves why those bands would be half-baked by constructing fantastic songs with even more fantastic moments. From the crushing off time Sabbath riff of the title track, to the frighteningly prophetic lyrics to 1,000 Eyes, to the super funky yet super spike impaling thrash break of Zero Tolerance, to the multiple guitar tap middle eight of Crystal Mountain, this is an album no self-respecting metal fan should be without. Also, leftover from the previous album's all star lineup is Dark Angel skinsman Gene Hoglan, and this album is arguably his finest performance.

Recommended songs:
Symbolic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbp60IX_jFQ)
Crystal Mountain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zguCFjHyVeM)

Rocco44
10-25-2011, 05:32 PM
Fuck yes. Great album, probably in my top 10.

larvtard
10-25-2011, 06:04 PM
Symbolic is definitely in my Top 5 of all time. Brilliant record.

JRA
10-26-2011, 08:40 AM
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55. Carcass- Heartwork

Some people call this Carcassís Black Album as an insult. Others like me (including Ian Christe) say this is what the Black Album should have sounded like. While it is quite the departure from Carcassís sound, it is still a death FUCKING metal album through and through. Blast-beats, clean, crisp, fucking HEAVY riffs capable of shattering the spine of Paul Bunyon and vicious, ugly vocals delivering menacing lyrics. Sounds like a death metal album to me. A tighter grasp on songwriting helps this album rise above Symphonies of Sickness, Carcassís other collection of 4 minute songs, which had great riffs but youíd tend to get lost in the mud and chaos and feel more apathetic than anything else. Here your senses stand at attention almost the entire time as they wait to get slaughtered. Like many albums this low, there is a weak song on this album, Blind Bleeding the Blind. And there would just be a much better consistency if the album went from Arbeit Macht Fliesch to Doctrinal Expletives, but thatís what iPod playlists are for. This was my favorite Carcass for a long time, but a separate album edged it out.

Recommended Songs:
Heartwork (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c27WAhchHDI)
This Mortal Coil (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hEUYLBQgU)

JRA
10-26-2011, 03:42 PM
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54. Emperor- In The Nightside Eclipse

Another day, another black metal classic with most of its members tied up in legal shenanigans. Except in this case, the reputation of the music far outshines the crimes of the members (not to say that that it doesnít in the case of Burzum, but Burzumís legacy will always be tainted with Euronymusís murder). Nightside Eclipse isnít the most kvlt production, but it is the most odd. Often times the keyboards tend to be a bit overwhelming and it eclipses the guitar work. Most black metal fans wouldnít DARE claim that it takes away from being in the top 5 black metal albums of all time (concentration camp criteria?), but often times you do wonder what this album would sound like with a more guitar-centric mix, with the guitars being the cake, where as the symphony acts as frosting for the cake. Even though I am a sucker for frosting, like the rhythm section should hold a pocket for guitars, vocals and melodies, the guitars should hold a pocket for keyboards. Strangely enough, Enslaved had this figured out on their first couple of releases. True the first two albums were released after this album, but the Hordanes Land EP...wait, that was in conjunction with Wrath of the Tyrant...FUCK!

Regardless, lopsided as the interplay may be at times, when they actually ďconnectĒ holy fucking shit does it work! I think most extreme metal fans would agree that this album is when keyboards finally became acceptable in metal. What irony in that this was a breakthrough within a group that was extra conservative about trends, and yet most American bands considered keyboards and symphonies one of the trendiest things you could do.

Recommended Songs:
I Am The Black Wizards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgQRRI9goFg)
Beyond The Great Vast Forest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oy9xxXQ3gY)

PowerMaiden
10-26-2011, 04:01 PM
you are very entertaining to read man, I'm not a black metal fan at all (exept for Venom) but I tried a few of your recommended tracks from those bands just because of your way of describing the music on it (the Burzum one was the best btw)

And I will get that Death - Symbolic album, cause I'm a self-respecting metal fan and those 2 recommanded songs crushed me beautifully.

Keep up the good work


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

JRA
10-26-2011, 04:38 PM
you are very entertaining to read man, I'm not a black metal fan at all (exept for Venom) but I tried a few of your recommended tracks from those bands just because of your way of describing the music on it (the Burzum one was the best btw)

And I will get that Death - Symbolic album, cause I'm a self-respecting metal fan and those 2 recommanded songs crushed me beautifully.

Keep up the good work


Cheers !
PowerMaiden


If anyone should be thanked it should be you. I was way too lazy to throw this together on my own but your list (although of a slightly different animal) along with Jeff's lit a fire under me and now I write at least 1 entry for this (in the queue) a day!

PowerMaiden
10-26-2011, 07:35 PM
listening to Symbolic in it's entirety for the first time of my life and I'm fucking blown away right now, down on the floor thanks to this thread.

There's a new Death fan aboard, too bad the guy is dead though


RIP


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

JRA
10-26-2011, 08:24 PM
There's a new Death fan aboard, too bad the guy is dead though


RIP


Cheers !
PowerMaiden

Almost 10 years at this point. :(

JRA
10-27-2011, 08:17 AM
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53. Mastodon- Leviathan

I got into this album because a writer I used to trust/respect put this as his album of the year. One of the reasons why I now wish God smite him off of the face of the Earth is because of a complete 180 he made, now claiming that he wasnít a fan of this album via some fucking retarded turn of phrase to try and make him sound smarter than he really was. His primary problem with it now was that the album was too musically busy. For me, the musical business is half the fun of Leviathan. Who hasnít air drummed to the ridiculously awesome fills of I Am Ahab and Iron Tusk. Or air strummed along to that schweet banjo interlude in Megalodon before giving way to one of the most vicious middle eight thrash sections this side of Riot of Violence? And of course the epic majesty of Hearts Alive (full disclosure, a song that took a bit of getting used to for me), with each interlude after the second chorus (or whatever you want to call it) slowly building tension to that last crushing section with not only a crushing apocalyptic riff, but a guitar solo? From a ďmodern metalĒ band in the early 2000ís? This band had clearly learned much since Trilobite. Some may prefer the streamlined heaviness of Remission, and thatís fine, but for me (and many others), this album set the gold standard of modern metal that only one band managed to top.

Recommended Songs:
Blood & Thunder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek)
I am Ahab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8NdJTOR9E)

jhdeity
10-27-2011, 09:42 AM
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53. Mastodon- Leviathan

I got into this album because a writer I used to trust/respect put this as his album of the year. One of the reasons why I now wish God smite him off of the face of the Earth is because of a complete 180 he made, now claiming that he wasnít a fan of this album via some fucking retarded turn of phrase to try and make him sound smarter than he really was. His primary problem with it now was that the album was too musically busy. For me, the musical business is half the fun of Leviathan. Who hasnít air drummed to the ridiculously awesome fills of I Am Ahab and Iron Tusk. Or air strummed along to that schweet banjo interlude in Megalodon before giving way to one of the most vicious middle eight thrash sections this side of Riot of Violence? And of course the epic majesty of Hearts Alive (full disclosure, a song that took a bit of getting used to for me), with each interlude after the second chorus (or whatever you want to call it) slowly building tension to that last crushing section with not only a crushing apocalyptic riff, but a guitar solo? From a ďmodern metalĒ band in the early 2000ís? This band had clearly learned much since Trilobite. Some may prefer the streamlined heaviness of Remission, and thatís fine, but for me (and many others), this album set the gold standard of modern metal that only one band managed to top.

Recommended Songs:
Blood & Thunder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek)
I am Ahab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8NdJTOR9E)

Great choice. Hearts Alive took me a few spins also but hearing it live sealed the deal

Rocco44
10-27-2011, 01:17 PM
Great fucking album. Such great riffs and song writing. Hearts Alive is amazing and is the main reason why it barely edges out Remission for me.

JRA
10-27-2011, 04:07 PM
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52. Morbid Angel- Altars of Madness

Once I had listened to this masterpiece in itís entirety, I knew I was ready for death metal. One of the reasons I believe this album is ranked so highly above death metal enthusiasts to this day is that it doesnít quite fit the mold of the death metal cookie cutter sound. Yes you had amazing blast beat sections courtesy of the fantastic Pete Sandoval and Treyís riffs and solos were too wild for thrash metal even there, but David Vincentís voice wasnít really that guttural. It felt more like a screeching whisper than anything else. Some might give them the pass of ďwell the style was still being developedĒ except by 1989 Possessed and Death had already done two albums each featuring super ugly guttural vocals. And donít get me wrong, this album isnít this low because it doesnít follow all the trappings of modern death metal. In fact I feel thatís why a lot of people like it. Again, it breaks the mold. Truth be told at times this album feels like a thrash album with extreme tendencies thrown in their for good measure. This I think is a key that makes the album more accessible than most. While I donít think itís the greatest death metal album ever itís definitely in the top 5 and easily saved 1989 from becoming a sadly unremarkable year for metal.

Recommended song:
Maze of Torment (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=maze%20of%20torment&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDAQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7ce r5dnZ3kk&ei=FuSpTrjREaevsQL0jbnmDw&usg=AFQjCNEpDjSfbPzyUFjnX3p39KX0riHS1A)
Immortal Rites (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmOYSH_LjF4&feature=related)

jhdeity
10-27-2011, 08:11 PM
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52. Morbid Angel- Altars of Madness

Once I had listened to this masterpiece in itís entirety, I knew I was ready for death metal. One of the reasons I believe this album is ranked so highly above death metal enthusiasts to this day is that it doesnít quite fit the mold of the death metal cookie cutter sound. Yes you had amazing blast beat sections courtesy of the fantastic Pete Sandoval and Treyís riffs and solos were too wild for thrash metal even there, but David Vincentís voice wasnít really that guttural. It felt more like a screeching whisper than anything else. Some might give them the pass of ďwell the style was still being developedĒ except by 1989 Possessed and Death had already done two albums each featuring super ugly guttural vocals. And donít get me wrong, this album isnít this low because it doesnít follow all the trappings of modern death metal. In fact I feel thatís why a lot of people like it. Again, it breaks the mold. Truth be told at times this album feels like a thrash album with extreme tendencies thrown in their for good measure. This I think is a key that makes the album more accessible than most. While I donít think itís the greatest death metal album ever itís definitely in the top 5 and easily saved 1989 from becoming a sadly unremarkable year for metal.

Recommended song:
Maze of Torment (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=maze%20of%20torment&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDAQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7ce r5dnZ3kk&ei=FuSpTrjREaevsQL0jbnmDw&usg=AFQjCNEpDjSfbPzyUFjnX3p39KX0riHS1A)
Immortal Rites (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmOYSH_LjF4&feature=related)

This one is Top 20 for me. For a band I had never heard of at the time, I was FLOORED when I 1st heard this cd.

JRA
10-28-2011, 06:14 AM
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51. High On Fire- Snakes For The Divine

Released only a year and a half ago, Snakes For The Divine is the best pure metal record of the past however many years. That alone is worthy of a top 50 spot. High On Fire fanboys that the band now had good production, but they’re all a bunch of kvlt fag babies that need to have a bottle of Drano and a smile and shut the fuck up. High On Fire had been flying the flag of guitar solos, real riffs, un nu-metal vocals, and fantasy oriented lyrics for the past 10 years, and while they are all damn good records, it always seemed after 5 or 6 songs the band kind of ran out juice and the rest of the album would be kind of boring. Not boring in an offensive way, just meh. Not here, right from the first legendary riff of the album to the thrashy closing of Holy Flames of the Fire Spitter, we have an album that the Vh1 Classic metal crowd should be over-exposing and over-playing the fuck out of. Fuck the NPR folk-avant-garde black-rimmed glasses overanalytical critic cesspool of metal. Motorhead, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath still matter and Snakes For The Divine is the living proof.

Recommended tracks:
Snakes For The Divine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4pvC8eaNlQ)
Bastard Samurai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZuo3ryNFPk)

IrritatedTrout
10-28-2011, 06:30 AM
A lot of good albums on this page. High on Fire has never really clicked with me, I always try and get into them but it never really works for some reason.

El Gordo
10-28-2011, 07:42 AM
Fuck the NPR folk-avant-garde black-rimmed glasses overanalytical critic cesspool of metal.

This. 1000 times this. Thank you.


Oh, and I agree, Snakes for the Divine kicks all kinds of ass.

Rocco44
10-28-2011, 09:52 AM
High on Fire definitely kick ass but I've never been in love with a whole album of theirs, just a few songs here and there.

jhdeity
10-28-2011, 11:52 AM
This. 1000 times this. Thank you.


Oh, and I agree, Snakes for the Divine kicks all kinds of ass.

2000 times this. Frost Hammer kicks my ass every time and now all the duck face girls on facebook are rockin' the black rimmed glasses too. They are now the #1 sign of the Hipster douchey wanna-be. I just saw some idiot on tv rockin' them without any lenses. buahahahahahaha

JRA
10-28-2011, 12:03 PM
I figured High On Fire would be the biggest upset of the thread, seeing that it's at 51 above many people's top 20's But instead everyone's joining in the NPR bashing. :lol:then again, no one has seen what 7th Son's ranking is :eyes :

jhdeity
10-28-2011, 02:38 PM
I figured High On Fire would be the biggest upset of the thread, seeing that it's at 51 above many people's top 20's But instead everyone's joining in the NPR bashing. :lol:then again, no one has seen what 7th Son's ranking is :eyes :

I have that album over all but like 10 you've listed personally. It would be Top 50-60 for me too. Only 1 HoF rated higher...

JRA
10-28-2011, 03:00 PM
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50. Motorhead-Overkill

Back in the day, I was complete sucker for Metallica, almost everything they did I loved. Especially when they did covers, and their greatness was proved by the fact that all the originals sounded laughably quaint in comparison. Not this fucking band. On Garage Inc. the last 4 songs on the second disc were covers primarily from this album. I had a feeling that when I heard Motorhead they would be the exception to the rule and by God I was right. Lars doing to opening to Overkill was very headbangable, but Phil Taylor doing it tore my head right off. When people think of Motorhead, they think of Ace of Spades album wise. The reason for this is the big hit of the title track. I do get a little bit surprised that this one isnít ranked higher considering that Motorhead puts out the same album over and over again and this one came first. Shit, Decibel Magazine inducted Welcome To Hell into their Hall of Fame citing that it came first, yet they inducted Ace of Spades for Motorhead.

Thereís just a bit more of a consistency here, even though Ace of Spades has nothing I outright hate and this one has the boring as all fuck Metropolis. To be honest, as revolutionary as I still think the opening double bass salvo of the title track is, Priest did it first, and they did it faster. But this album did it louder, and thatís why I think this album and Motorhead in general get more credit as the progenitors of thrash over Priest.

This is the second album with the legendary Clarke/Kilmister/Taylor lineup and holy fuck can you see the upgrade. Motorhead was voted the worst band in the world once. Whether that was whether they legitimately sucked back then or music press is borderline retarded when it came to heavy music, no one dare hold that opinion about this album.

Recommended Songs:
Overkill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNUyjRRjxM)
Stay Clean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpzhlPQaGec)

JRA
10-29-2011, 07:55 AM
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49. Dio- Holy Diver

But unlike Overkill, there is nothing on this album I outright hate. Perhaps the opening of Invisible is a smidge embarrassing, but that’s merely a mis-step opening to an otherwise good song. Despite not being an active guitar player, Dio has always had a presence of sorts that converts whatever musical project he’s working on to his whim. That’s one of the reasons I could never 100% get behind the Dio Sabbath albums as continuations of Sabbath's legacy. They weren’t Sabbath albums, they were Dio albums (Dehumanizer withstanding). But finally, with no celebrity musicians to hold him back, Ronnie could finally let the demons fly and boy do they fucking skyrocket. A very serviceable metal album that like most great metal albums has something for everyone. Want to thrash? Stand Up & Shout. In the mood for Doom? Shame on The Night. Epic? Don’t Talk To Strangers and the title track should work in separate but equal ways. Straightforward fist pumping metal? Rainbow In The Dark. I could go on but you get the idea. Of course, like Ozzy before him, you need a great guitar player to build a solid foundation for you to shine upon, and while Vivian Campbell is no Randy Rhoads, he does such a fantastic job with riffs and solos (especially solos, whenever I listen to Don’t Talk To Strangers, I have to rewind the solo about 5 times) that I honestly don’t want to hear what Randy would sound like with this album. Even though we all see Holy Diver on lists like these, it’s still Ronnie’s best solo album and easily his best work since Rainbow Rising. LOOK OUT!!

Recommended Songs:
Don’t Talk To Strangers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyxCf8ZgBw)
Rainbow In The Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_6kdIzPino)

Sanitarium78
10-29-2011, 08:00 AM
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49. Dio- Holy Diver

But unlike Overkill, there is nothing on this album I outright hate. Perhaps the opening of Invisible is a smidge embarrassing, but thatís merely a mis-step opening to an otherwise good song. Despite not being an active guitar player, Dio has always had a presence of sorts that converts whatever musical project heís working on to his whim. Thatís one of the reasons I could never 100% get behind the Dio Sabbath albums as continuations of Sabbath's legacy. They werenít Sabbath albums, they were Dio albums (Dehumanizer withstanding). But finally, with no celebrity musicians to hold him back, Ronnie could finally let the demons fly and boy do they fucking skyrocket. A very serviceable metal album that like most great metal albums has something for everyone. Want to thrash? Stand Up & Shout. Doom? Shame on The Night? Epic? Donít Talk To Strangers. Straightforward fist pumping metal? Rainbow In The Dark. I could go on but you get the idea. Of course, like Ozzy before him, you need a great guitar player to build a solid foundation for you to shine upon, and while Vivian Campbell is no Randy Rhoads, he does such a fantastic job with riffs and solos (especially solos, whenever I listen to Donít Talk To Strangers, I have to rewind the solo about 5 times) that I honestly donít want to hear what Randy would sound like with this album. Even though we all see it on lists like these, itís still Ronnieís best solo album and easily his best work since Rainbow Rising. LOOK OUT!!

Recommended Songs:
Donít Talk To Strangers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyxCf8ZgBw)
Rainbow In The Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_6kdIzPino)

One of the greatest albums ever. It should be up way higher though:D

jhdeity
10-29-2011, 09:19 AM
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49. Dio- Holy Diver

But unlike Overkill, there is nothing on this album I outright hate. Perhaps the opening of Invisible is a smidge embarrassing, but thatís merely a mis-step opening to an otherwise good song. Despite not being an active guitar player, Dio has always had a presence of sorts that converts whatever musical project heís working on to his whim. Thatís one of the reasons I could never 100% get behind the Dio Sabbath albums as continuations of Sabbath's legacy. They werenít Sabbath albums, they were Dio albums (Dehumanizer withstanding). But finally, with no celebrity musicians to hold him back, Ronnie could finally let the demons fly and boy do they fucking skyrocket. A very serviceable metal album that like most great metal albums has something for everyone. Want to thrash? Stand Up & Shout. In the mood for Doom? Shame on The Night. Epic? Donít Talk To Strangers and the title track should work in separate but equal ways. Straightforward fist pumping metal? Rainbow In The Dark. I could go on but you get the idea. Of course, like Ozzy before him, you need a great guitar player to build a solid foundation for you to shine upon, and while Vivian Campbell is no Randy Rhoads, he does such a fantastic job with riffs and solos (especially solos, whenever I listen to Donít Talk To Strangers, I have to rewind the solo about 5 times) that I honestly donít want to hear what Randy would sound like with this album. Even though we all see Holy Diver on lists like these, itís still Ronnieís best solo album and easily his best work since Rainbow Rising. LOOK OUT!!

Recommended Songs:
Donít Talk To Strangers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFyxCf8ZgBw)
Rainbow In The Dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_6kdIzPino)

The best thing about this album is I used to never like Don't Talk to Strangers and years later it became one of my favorite songs.

IrritatedTrout
10-29-2011, 10:39 AM
Overkill is sweet and Holy Diver is amazing.

JRA
10-29-2011, 04:15 PM
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48. Celtic Frost- To Mega Therion

Not only the album that made me ďgetĒ Celtic Frost, this is one of the greatest black metal albums of all time. Not just because of itís raw thick sound, but because quite a few of the ideas here would be borrowed from second wave black metal bands. From the bare bones crushing tracks like The Usurper and Circle of the Tyrants, to the more extravagant pieces like Dawn of Megiddo and Necromantical Screams, you know that everybody from Mayhem to Enslaved jocked something from this album. What makes the avant garde stuff work is unlike bands like Nightwish, Tom doesnít push the riffs out of the way to make room for the symphony. He constructs a metal song as the base, and when he finds the right spot then the orchestras and what not are added. Itís literally a situation of the icing on the cake! And what a fantastic cake it was.


Recommended Track:
Dawn of Megiddo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM7oFCfEqzs)
Circle of the Tyrants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvPY5BH38B8)

mankvill
10-29-2011, 04:39 PM
:rocker:

SomewhereInTime72
10-29-2011, 07:25 PM
Fuck yes To Mega Therion! :rocker: :rocker: :rocker:

JRA
10-30-2011, 08:09 AM
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47. Kreator- Coma of Souls

After a brief clean guitar intro (which is much more brief and effective than Choir of the Damned) When The Sun Burns Red explodes into Kreator’s fantastic and fully realized melodic power thrash sound. It’s still vicious [and crippling] but the guitar work and sound is more of an emulation of modern Judas Priest than it is Bathory. Peep the devastatingly technical yet melodic leads of People of The Lie, Agents of Brutality, and Terror Zone. Behold the cannibalistic thrash riffage of Coma of Souls, Mental Slavery, Material World Paranoia. Unlike their previous albums, there is not a dull moment here.* Each song is a fully realized futuristic idea of what the genre of thrash still has to offer without feeling retro or dated, and considering thrash had been around for almost a decade, it sure must have been refreshing for the time. The top 50 thrash lists of the world don’t like to make room for a second album by a second tier band, and even though Pleasure To Kill is still the essential Kreator release, if you want more, this is the album to hear. Just expect a much more refined approach to German thrash. Of course just because it isn’t raw doesn’t mean you still won’t be beaten to death.

*(well ok, sometimes I skip Twisted Urges)

Recommended Songs:
Material World Paranoia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yc4BEP0jzE)
Terror Zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDVKopPQBiU)

JRA
10-30-2011, 04:20 PM
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46. Megadeth- So Far, So Good....So What?

I used to believe this was better than Peace Sells. The idea that with Megadethís evolution and with each subsequent release they just got better and better. Well, Iím merely putting on a facade if I keep telling myself that. The sad thing is SFSGSW is kind of underrated in the thrash world. You have your people who exclusively love the first two albums, you have your people who love Rust In Peace, but only really the odd minority of the Megadeth populace think SFSGSW is Daveís best work. I suppose part of the reason why not for me is the song Mary Jane. That song just never did anything for me. And ironically I think the much maligned cover of Anarchy In The UK is not only one of the best things Dave has ever done, I even think itís more ďpunkĒ than the original. Itís played faster, Dave sings it with even more slurred obnoxiousness than usual, and how can you not love the slurred line ďcountry...and other cunt like tendenciesĒ? But of course, there is the majesty of In My Darkest Hour. In any case, though it might not even be second best, SFSGW is an unsung speed techthrash classic that served as a bridge period between two techthrash classics.

Recommended Songs:
In My Darkest Hour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebvmS9Mr26g)
Set The World A Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6QmJC6ax2M)

slapguitarer
10-30-2011, 05:19 PM
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53. Mastodon- Leviathan

I got into this album because a writer I used to trust/respect put this as his album of the year. One of the reasons why I now wish God smite him off of the face of the Earth is because of a complete 180 he made, now claiming that he wasnít a fan of this album via some fucking retarded turn of phrase to try and make him sound smarter than he really was. His primary problem with it now was that the album was too musically busy. For me, the musical business is half the fun of Leviathan. Who hasnít air drummed to the ridiculously awesome fills of I Am Ahab and Iron Tusk. Or air strummed along to that schweet banjo interlude in Megalodon before giving way to one of the most vicious middle eight thrash sections this side of Riot of Violence? And of course the epic majesty of Hearts Alive (full disclosure, a song that took a bit of getting used to for me), with each interlude after the second chorus (or whatever you want to call it) slowly building tension to that last crushing section with not only a crushing apocalyptic riff, but a guitar solo? From a ďmodern metalĒ band in the early 2000ís? This band had clearly learned much since Trilobite. Some may prefer the streamlined heaviness of Remission, and thatís fine, but for me (and many others), this album set the gold standard of modern metal that only one band managed to top.

Recommended Songs:
Blood & Thunder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek)
I am Ahab (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy8NdJTOR9E)

:rocker:

My number 1, but it's on the list so that's a plus!

IrritatedTrout
10-31-2011, 02:05 AM
SFSGSW is a good album although I'd probably rate it lowest of all Megadeth albums from Killing to Youth.

Sanitarium78
10-31-2011, 08:19 AM
SFSGSW has three of Megadeth's best songs with Set The World Afire, In My Darkest Hour and Hook In Mouth. Unfortunately the rest of the album doesn't messure up to those three and that's why it doesn't get much love when it comes to talking about Megadeth's top albums.

JRA
10-31-2011, 09:19 AM
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45. Exodus- Bonded by Blood

Released 6 months before Spreading The Disease (!), 5 months before Hell Awaits (!!) and 2 months before Killing Is My Business..., Exodus put out a brief ransom note to the metal world, ďGet in our way, and weíre going to TAKE YOUR LIFE! Kick in your face and rape and MUDER YOUR WIFE!Ē Yea folks, thereís a reason metal remembers the coming out of thrash and not the efforts of Bon Jovi, Motley Crue and Twisted Sister in 1985. Because these poser assassinations kept the masses in fucking line. Unfortunately that more or less changed in the years afterwords as like most second tier bands, they just couldnít come up with two masterpieces in a row.

It is solely because of Paul Balloff that I had to respect harsh vocals in metal. Balloffís vocals arenít guttural, screechy, or even barky (certainly not in the modern Hatebreed style of today), but they are destruction manifested in a single agent. And despite being a larger than life giant in metal, both musically and otherwise, no one is bigger than the group. Part of what most modern metal bands fail to understand (both proper singer and otherwise) is that the vocals are not the center stage of the band. It should be a friendly competitive tension between vocals and distinctive heavy riffs. It doesnít matter if your vocalist is a guttural extremer roaring his pain or a master soprano displaying skill hitting a difficult note, if youíre just strumming on a ho-hum chord in the background, your band sucks. And thatís where metalís most underrated guitar duo, the H-team comes in. Yes folks, Hunolt and Holt, not Hammett and Hetfield, are the H-team. Anyone who says otherwise is to be stabbed in front of their loved ones.

Without looking at the final list, Iíd estimate that there are two, maybe three ďsecond waveĒ thrash albums above this one. But make no mistake folks, this is the most essential thrash release outside of the big four. Period.

Recommended Songs:
Strike of The Beast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4zjr8uiL7A)
Piranha (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALse4RQSJk4)

makethemsuffer12
10-31-2011, 10:49 AM
:fist:

JRA
10-31-2011, 05:17 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rLGluToKXwY/TVLExYq6M-I/AAAAAAAAAUI/HDbBjhI7WhM/s1600/Helloween-Keeper_Of_The_Seven_Keys_Part_I-Frontal.jpg

44. Helloween- Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 1

Allow me to paraphrase a dialogue from High Fidelity:

Some Dude: “Yea I have all the other Iron Maiden albums.”
Jack Black: “Oh you do?! Well how about Helloween?”
Some Dude: “Eh they always seemed...”
Jack Black: “They always seemed what? They always seemed really great is what they really seemed. They picked up where your precious Powerslave left off and your sitting around complaining on how you don’t have no more synth free Maiden albums, I can’t believe you don’t own Keeper of the Seven Keys part 1! JESUS!”

I avoided Helloween for along time because they sounded exactly like Iron Maiden. Yea there were subtle differences in execution but that’s all bells and whistles. They were a Maiden carbon copy. Especially when Michael Kiske came into the fold. While there’s no denying Kiske on his own is a fantastic vocalist capable of all kinds of skills he still sounded exactly like Bruce Dickinson (and Geoff Tate). Kai might not have been Scarlett Johannson on the ears, but at least he was original. Finally because of all the high praise Boris gave those first three records I decided it couldn’t possibly be the worst thing I would buy.

Recently I have developed a theory that the reason Helloween got as popular as they did with the Keeper albums was because they sounded like Maiden without the synths and commercial tendencies starting to pop up. After being disillusioned with Somewhere In Time I can only imagine a runt of the group of metalheads running in with a copy of the album going “You guys, listen to this! It’s Maiden without the gay keyboards!” “Whoa, bro your right! We can pretend this is the real album that came after Powerslave!” Farfetched and cynical as that may seem, I’d like to think at least one or two pockets of local metalheads adopted that mentality.

On its own, Keeper 1 is a great speed metal album, with some fun songs. Halloween of course will always be the shining star of Helloween’s career, and I’d wager to say that it is in fact better than a couple of the classic Maiden epics. The rest of the shorter songs...they’re good, but not great. They’re kind of a step back compared to some of the material offered to us on Walls. Fortunately, this band would get much, much better at writing short songs, and songs altogether.

Recommended Songs:
Halloween (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQGwRsMorLI)
Future World
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9h3jRaZyB4)

El Gordo
10-31-2011, 05:20 PM
http://www.metallyrica.com/covers/helloweenkeeper%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bseven%2Bkeys%2Bpart%2 Bi.jpg



And what's not to love about that cover? :D :D

jhdeity
10-31-2011, 07:23 PM
http://www.metallyrica.com/covers/helloweenkeeper%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bseven%2Bkeys%2Bpart%2 Bi.jpg

44. Helloween- Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 1

Allow me to paraphrase a dialogue from High Fidelity:

Some Dude: ďYea I have all the other Iron Maiden albums.Ē
Jack Black: ďOh you do?! Well how about Helloween?Ē
Some Dude: ďEh they always seemed...Ē
Jack Black: ďThey always seemed what? They always seemed really great is what they really seemed. They picked up where your precious Powerslave left off and your sitting around complaining on how you donít have no more synth free Maiden albums, I canít believe you donít own Keeper of the Seven Keys part 1! JESUS!Ē

I avoided Helloween for along time because they sounded exactly like Iron Maiden. Yea there were subtle differences in execution but thatís all bells and whistles. They were a Maiden carbon copy. Especially when Michael Kiske came into the fold. While thereís no denying Kiske on his own is a fantastic vocalist capable of all kinds of skills he still sounded exactly like Bruce Dickinson (and Geoff Tate). Kai might not have been Scarlett Johannson on the ears, but at least he was original. Finally because of all the high praise Boris gave those first three records I decided it couldnít possibly be the worst thing I would buy.

Recently I have developed a theory that the reason Helloween got as popular as they did with the Keeper albums was because they sounded like Maiden without the synths and commercial tendencies starting to pop up. After being disillusioned with Somewhere In Time I can only imagine a runt of the group of metalheads running in with a copy of the album going ďYou guys, listen to this! Itís Maiden without the gay keyboards!Ē ďWhoa, bro your right! We can pretend this is the real album that came after Powerslave!Ē Farfetched and cynical as that may seem, Iíd like to think at least one or two pockets of local metalheads adopted that mentality.

On its own, Keeper 1 is a great speed metal album, with some fun songs. Halloween of course will always be the shining star of Helloweenís career, and Iíd wager to say that it is in fact better than a couple of the classic Maiden epics. The rest of the shorter songs...theyíre good, but not great. Theyíre kind of a step back compared to some of the material offered to us on Walls. Fortunately, this band would get much, much better at writing short songs, and songs altogether.

Recommended Songs:
Halloween (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQGwRsMorLI)
Future World
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9h3jRaZyB4)

Great read. Funny I didn't like SIT at all when it came out and went deeper into Metallica and Slayer instead. Helloween had the worst video ever on HBB and it was played constantly so people either loved them or hated them. I chose the latter.

JRA
10-31-2011, 07:41 PM
Great read. Funny I didn't like SIT at all when it came out and went deeper into Metallica and Slayer instead. Helloween had the worst video ever on HBB and it was played constantly so people either loved them or hated them. I chose the latter.

I will say that Halloween video was God awful, even if a did have a few cute girls in it. What was more offensive was that they had to butcher a 13 minute song to do it.

jhdeity
10-31-2011, 09:52 PM
I will say that Halloween video was God awful, even if a did have a few cute girls in it. What was more offensive was that they had to butcher a 13 minute song to do it.

True

IrritatedTrout
11-01-2011, 02:07 AM
I've never understood why people say Helloween sounds like Iron Maiden, I don't hear it at all.

Sanitarium78
11-01-2011, 06:00 AM
I've never understood why people say Helloween sounds like Iron Maiden, I don't hear it at all.

There are a few similarities with the music but overall no, they don't sound that much like Maiden. POM and PS were influential to the power metal genre but I always felt Helloween had more of a Dio influence to them than anyone else.

I also never understood why some people were so pissed that Maiden added in a little bit of synth to SIT and Seventh Son? It's not like they completely abandoned the guitar and made the keys the main driving force like Rush did back then. I get why fans were upset with Rush but with Maiden I never will because the guitar and Steve's bass was still the main musical focus on those two albums.

I also don't get the joke with the album cover put up for Seven Keys 1:confused: I know for a fact that is not the cover.

JRA
11-01-2011, 06:37 AM
http://www.fearzone.com/content/images/large/large-1913.jpg

43. King Diamond- Abigail

Purely and simply, Abigail is a doctorate class in rock & roll ensembleship and musicianship. Mahavishinu Orchestra, Rush, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and Genesis pale in comparison to whatís on display here. And those are all GOOD bands, and masters at this type of craft. From groove, to time changes, to timbre to rhythm, to drums only, bass only to guitars only, this album covers everything experts need to know in order to prove their musicianship. This is not an art record, itís an album composed of songs constructed by the best in the business that just happen to elevate to the highest cerebral level of music.

Oh yea, King Diamond is on this album too. Apparently itís supposed to be a concept album, something about 18*69 = 7/7/1777 I donít know. Iíve tried to get into the story over the years but I just canít pay attention the entire time simply because of whatís on display here. If you are a musician, get this. Now.

Recommended tracks:
Black Horsemen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcxSuIKu-jk)
Abigail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtQVSZPm-M)

JRA
11-01-2011, 06:41 AM
I also don't get the joke with the album cover put up for Seven Keys 1:confused: I know for a fact that is not the cover.

There was no joke. When I put that up it was the original cover but for some reason a few hours later it switched to that. The internet is weird.

Sanitarium78
11-01-2011, 07:35 AM
http://www.fearzone.com/content/images/large/large-1913.jpg

43. King Diamond- Abigail

Purely and simply, Abigail is a doctorate class in rock & roll ensembleship and musicianship. Mahavishinu Orchestra, Rush, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and Genesis pale in comparison to whatís on display here. And those are all GOOD bands, and masters at this type of craft. From groove, to time changes, to timbre to rhythm, to drums only, bass only to guitars only, this album covers everything experts need to know in order to prove their musicianship. This is not an art record, itís an album composed of songs constructed by the best in the business that just happen to elevate to the highest cerebral level of music.

Oh yea, King Diamond is on this album too. Apparently itís supposed to be a concept album, something about 18*69 = 7/7/1777 I donít know. Iíve tried to get into the story over the years but I just canít pay attention the entire time simply because of whatís on display here. If you are a musician, get this. Now.

Recommended tracks:
Black Horsemen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcxSuIKu-jk)
Abigail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtQVSZPm-M)

Excellent selection. It would no doubt make it into my top 50 ever:rocker:

The story told in the album is pretty good if you ever decide to pay attention to it one day:D

JRA
11-01-2011, 03:02 PM
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42. Mercyful Fate- Donít Break The Oath

This album is ultimate best of both words: the combination of beer-drinking, skirt-chasing, arena rock and spikes & leather, bload soaked, screaming heavy metal. There is not a single note or lyric here that will be mistaken for hard rock, but the execution of these evil, riff-heavy, dark songs is done with such class and professionalism that if the band had continued on after this, they would have easily been in stadiums by the third record. Hey, they had the same strokes of success that Twisted Sister did; song cited by the PMRC as offensive, outrageous stage performances with a brilliant lead singer/ frontman at the center of it all, and Fate even had an edge on Sister because unlike Dee Snider coming out of the closet and saying he was a Christian family man (hah!) Diamond was Satanic to the bone.

But the album. Honestly I like this album better than Melissa for two reasons. 1) Better production. It was louder and fuller, and to be honest at times it even sounded more raw. Hey I like the raw approach as much as the next guy, but your band should still have a wall of sound. Thatís why albums like Ride The Lightning, Number of the Beast and to a lesser extent Walls of Jericho are fondly beloved by fans, and albums like Wheels of Steel, Lightning To The Nations and well, Melissa arenít. 2) The songs. To be honest, I think the reason why Melissa is as famous as it is now is because Metallica covered half of it, and their goal was covering ďobscure songsĒ rather than big hits. Iím not taking anything away from Satanís Fall, Evil etc., but I have consistently seen DBTO ranked higher than Melissa on greatest metal albums lists and after giving both albums a fair shake, Iím inclined to agree. Great as Melissa was, Donít Break The Oath was the sound of the band getting greater. It just sucks that we couldnít get more of them at this crucial point in their careers.

Recommended Songs:
A Dangerous Meeting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBQU3BDwrTI)
The Oath (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWznMV2Upe0)

SomewhereInTime72
11-01-2011, 04:01 PM
Such an incredible album.

daimonos
11-01-2011, 04:15 PM
Such an incredible album.

This.

One of my gateway albums into the world of extreme metal.

slapguitarer
11-01-2011, 04:57 PM
http://www.fearzone.com/content/images/large/large-1913.jpg

43. King Diamond- Abigail

Purely and simply, Abigail is a doctorate class in rock & roll ensembleship and musicianship. Mahavishinu Orchestra, Rush, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin and Genesis pale in comparison to whatís on display here. And those are all GOOD bands, and masters at this type of craft. From groove, to time changes, to timbre to rhythm, to drums only, bass only to guitars only, this album covers everything experts need to know in order to prove their musicianship. This is not an art record, itís an album composed of songs constructed by the best in the business that just happen to elevate to the highest cerebral level of music.

Oh yea, King Diamond is on this album too. Apparently itís supposed to be a concept album, something about 18*69 = 7/7/1777 I donít know. Iíve tried to get into the story over the years but I just canít pay attention the entire time simply because of whatís on display here. If you are a musician, get this. Now.

Recommended tracks:
Black Horsemen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcxSuIKu-jk)
Abigail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtQVSZPm-M)

Yes! This album is fantastic. :rocker:

larvtard
11-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Nowadays I'm trying to keep my posting on here to a minimum, so I haven't been commenting on every album. Lemme fix that now:

Mastodon-Leviathan:
C'mon, who doesn't like this album?

Celtic Frost:
never been able to get into these guys for some reason.

Kreator-Coma of Souls:
don't much care for this album. Even Terrible Certainity is better than this.

Megadeth-so far...
Nowadays I can't stand Megadeth, but I always enjoyed this one.

Exodus-Bonded by Blood:
Fuckin' hate Baloff's vocals but the live album Another Lesson in Violence which is pretty much this album minus one song is outstanding.

Dio-Holy Diver:
Fantastic album, enough said.

High on Fire-Snakes for the divine:
I didn't used to like like this album, but I've now come to realize that it kicks ass. My 2nd favorite of theirs behind DITC.

Morbid Angel-altars:
definitely a top 5 DM album for me.

Carcass-Heartwork:
I've said on here before that I'm not a fan of Carcass' earlier goregrind stuff, but this album is so fucking good.

Darkthrone-Transylvanian Hunger:
I've never listened to this album and I don't plan to any time soon (I think I got through five songs), but it strikes me as hilarious that I still recognize that title track riff. My friend was playing it on his guitar and I was like "Holy fuck I know this!! What is it?" and he told me. I was shocked because I hadn't listened to it for a looong time, and even then, I only played it a couple times on youtube.

Death-Human
Seriously good fucking record. Obviously don't like it as much as Symbolic or even SBG or Leprosy but it's got so much emotion within the technicality, if that makes any sense.

Mayhem-de...
Yeah, this didn't do much for me, sorry man. Struck me as pretty mediocre black metal. Same with Pure Holocaust.

Mastodon-Remission
Fuckin love March of the Fire Ants and Mother Puncher to death but the rest doesn't do too much for me.

daimonos
11-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Mayhem-de...
pretty mediocre black metal. Same with Pure Holocaust.


:lol:

larvtard
11-01-2011, 07:10 PM
:lol:

That directed at me? I assume so. Didn't strike me as anything special, honestly.

illuminatus917
11-01-2011, 07:30 PM
I can understand not liking Mayhem but Celtic Frost?

Rocco44
11-02-2011, 01:09 AM
Great fucking list so far. The last few have reminded me there are so many classics I don't listen to nearly often enough.

El Gordo
11-02-2011, 03:52 AM
That directed at me? I assume so. Didn't strike me as anything special, honestly.

Then why didn't you just say "I don't like black metal, so... anyhoo"?

larvtard
11-02-2011, 08:01 AM
Then why didn't you just say "I don't like black metal, so... anyhoo"?

Because I love black metal? I don't know why I just put a question mark there.

JRA
11-02-2011, 08:14 AM
http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/3253/cover_5140171522009.jpg

41. Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath

I must say I do find it rather find it amusing how the metal world still finds this one of the darkest records ever recorded. Back when I was a young Ozzy fanboy punk, I would just snatch up whatever he was on and put it on a soon as I got home. Circumstances and rituals be damned (oh the irony of that statement now), I wanted to hear it immediately. My earliest experience listening to this album was listening to it on a CD player while pulling the weeds out of my parentís front yard. So even with the title track, my atmosphere of this album will always be a nice sunny afternoon. And its way too late to change that now. I always figured title track aside, this would make a good summer cookout record. I mean The Wizard, NIB, even the opening cluster of Sleeping Village/a Bit of Fingers; it makes for great Frisbee/outdoor football music. Granted this music is still super heavy, but shit, people listen to everything from Metallica to Pantera to AC/DC at cookouts so...

From what little ground I have to stand on to speak from an objective perspective, in my opinion, this album caused the single biggest paradigm shift in rock & roll history. The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Johnny Cash, Led Zeppelin were all the kings of rock & roll in 1969. But in 1970, Rock & Roll was locked in prison...with this guy. It didn't end well.

Recommended Tracks:
The Wizard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI)
Behind The Wall of Sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZrSBEKB0I)

Sanitarium78
11-02-2011, 08:48 AM
http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/3253/cover_5140171522009.jpg

41. Black Sabbath- Black Sabbath

I must say I do find it rather find it amusing how the metal world still finds this one of the darkest records ever recorded. Back when I was a young Ozzy fanboy punk, I would just snatch up whatever he was on and put it on a soon as I got home. Circumstances and rituals be damned (oh the irony of that statement now), I wanted to hear it immediately. My earliest experience listening to this album was listening to it on a CD player while pulling the weeds out of my parentís front yard. So even with the title track, my atmosphere of this album will always be a nice sunny afternoon. And its way too late to change that now. I always figured title track aside, this would make a good summer cookout record. I mean The Wizard, NIB, even the opening cluster of Sleeping Village/a Bit of Fingers; it makes for great Frisbee/outdoor football music. Granted this music is still super heavy, but shit, people listen to everything from Metallica to Pantera to AC/DC at cookouts so...

From what little ground I have to stand on to speak from an objective perspective, in my opinion, this album caused the single biggest paradigm shift in rock & roll history. The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Johnny Cash, Led Zeppelin were all the kings of rock & roll in 1969. But in 1970, Rock & Roll was locked in prison...with this guy. It didn't end well.

Recommended Tracks:
The Wizard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI)
Behind The Wall of Sleep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZrSBEKB0I)

Without this album none of us would even be here talking about metal.

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY SABBATH!!!:rocker::rocker:

jhdeity
11-02-2011, 09:49 AM
Without this album none of us would even be here talking about metal.

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY SABBATH!!!:rocker::rocker:

Yep

larvtard
11-02-2011, 11:04 AM
Without this album none of us would even be here talking about metal.

Or, you know, another band could've come along and made something similar had Black Sabbath not done it already.

Seriously, that phrase annoys me. "Without Black Sabbath there would be no metal today." How do you know?

IrritatedTrout
11-02-2011, 11:08 AM
Black Sabbath is a great record.:blaze: Not much else to say about it that hasn't already been said before.

JRA
11-02-2011, 11:15 AM
Or, you know, another band could've come along and made something similar had Black Sabbath not done it already.

Not really.

illuminatus917
11-02-2011, 11:28 AM
Or, you know, another band could've come along and made something similar had Black Sabbath not done it already.

Seriously, that phrase annoys me. "Without Black Sabbath there would be no metal today." How do you know?

100% Correct. This is the shit we usually get with baby boomers talking about The Beatles.

Not really.

False dilemma, otherwise known as "fallacy of false choice." Fallacy that entails after omission of additional options. It's usually a mistake to rule out alternatives...

larvtard
11-02-2011, 11:29 AM
100% Correct.



False dilemma, otherwise known as "fallacy of false choice." Fallacy that entails after omission of additional options. It's usually a mistake to rule out alternatives...

Why are you so smart.

JRA
11-02-2011, 11:35 AM
Of all the albums I thought would bring in the overwhelming douchebag stir-up-the-pot controversy. :tp:

No, metal would not have been the same without Sabbath. Not only would there have been a less of an emphasis on riffs, there wouldn't have been the overall theme of darkness in the music.

Of course there were many different agents that created metal —Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Blue Cheer, and Jimi Hendrix all deserve credit— but Black Sabbath fits the mold of what metal's image and presentation became throughout the decades the best.

illuminatus917
11-02-2011, 11:41 AM
Of all the albums I thought would bring in the overwhelming douchebag stir-up-the-pot controversy. :tp:

No, metal would not have been the same without Sabbath. Not only would there have been a less of an emphasis on riffs, there wouldn't have been the overall theme of darkness in the music.

Of course there were many different agents that created metal —Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix all deserve credit— but Black Sabbath fits the mold of what metal's image and presentation became throughout the decades the best.

Though all this is true, it's all fairly beside the point. No one is arguing against Sabbath's influence. What is being argued is that had their been no Sabbath, we can't rule out the possibility of a similar artist coming along at some point similar to Sabbath that might've in effect taken their (critical) place in the history of metal.

Rocco44
11-02-2011, 11:48 AM
^^ Agreed, although this is sort of a pointless argument.

Love that record, so timeless.

larvtard
11-02-2011, 11:51 AM
Though all this is true, it's all fairly beside the point. No one is arguing against Sabbath's influence. What is being argued is that had their been no Sabbath, we can't rule out the possibility of a similar artist coming along at some point similar to Sabbath that might've in effect taken their (critical) place in the history of metal.

This man speaks the truth. And I'm not a douchebag. Just a cynical asshole.

illuminatus917
11-02-2011, 11:52 AM
^^ Agreed, although this is sort of a pointless argument.

Love that record, so timeless.

It is, and it's age-old, but it's a natural argument to the common phrase about how "without this album or this band music as we know it wouldn't exist."

larvtard
11-02-2011, 11:57 AM
Yeah, don't mind illuminatus and me, we're just being philosophical assholes.

In other news, I'm posting too much today.

illuminatus917
11-02-2011, 12:56 PM
Yeah, don't mind illuminatus and me, we're just being philosophical assholes.

In other news, I'm posting too much today.

:lol:

Words of wisdom for the day: girls don't like philosophical assholes.

JRA
11-02-2011, 04:27 PM
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/9/8/298.jpg

40. At The Gates- Slaughter of the Soul

Letís see, how to put this delicately....At The Gates sucked in the early days. REALLY sucked. There would be times where they would have good guitar tone but shit song titles, then they would have great song titles but shit guitar tone. And not even shit in the delightful Burzum way. Because Varg put a supreme amount of effort into make Filosofem sound shit, but it ended up flipping back around and becoming a great buzz sound. At The Gates put out a satisfactory Swedish death metal album with The Red In The Sky Is Ours, but With Fear I Molest the Flaming Buttsex was a bunch of whiny losers pouting that they had no friends while a thousand John Goodmanís were taco shitting in the background.

Finally At The Gates decides to get serious in 1994. Add a series of unfortunate touring events and you get this album. What we have here are a series of buzz-saw heavy catchy death thrash songs (though more the latter than the former IMO). This was another staple of the modern metal scene that Boris maligned. But I noticed something curious. He thought both Blinded By Fear and the title track were damn good songs, but it was Cold where the band slipped down the spiral into Gothenfuckery. My logic was ďwell if the two songs he likes are the two classics from the album....then I should have nothing to worry about!Ē And of course, I was right. As for the mid section of Cold, well Ultraboris doesnít like the section of the song Iced Earth that goes ďcan you feel the madness here...Ē but I loved it because it explodes into ďWE ARE...TOGETHER NOW....CRUSH THE COWARDS....DO IT NOW!Ē and like that song, the soft section of Cold explodes into a fantastic guitar solo from Andy LaRoque (yes, THAT Andy Laroque).

So apparently he doesnít like tension and release. Screw you Boris.

Recommended Songs:
Slaughter of the Soul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJme5uubkyQ)
World of Lies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqMCvsTSKWE)

Sanitarium78
11-02-2011, 07:22 PM
So another band would've come along and taken Sabbath's place if they had not gone down the path they did, huh? So tell me, who exactly would that have been? What band that was around at the time of Sabbath was writing the same music and would've had the influence they did?

I mean if it's so obvious that someone else would've come along, then name the band?

Bottom line is that it all started with Sabbath. Their dark riffs, lyics and image is one of the most influencial in music history. The only other band that has had more influence on the sound of the metal genre is Judas Priest. But i'm sure if they hadn't come along someone else would've taken their place and done the same exact thing, right?

larvtard
11-02-2011, 07:35 PM
So another band would've come along and taken Sabbath's place if they had not gone down the path they did, huh? So tell me, who exactly would that have been? What band that was around at the time of Sabbath was writing the same music and would've had the influence they did?

I mean if it's so obvious that someone else would've come along, then name the band?

Bottom line is that it all started with Sabbath. Their dark riffs, lyics and image is one of the most influencial in music history. The only other band that has had more influence on the sound of the metal genre is Judas Priest. But i'm sure if they hadn't come along someone else would've taken their place and done the same exact thing, right?

Again, dude, I think you're missing the point. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT BAND MAY HAVE BEEN. If Sabbath never existed, then another band could have sprung up into existence that started metal. You change one thing in history, and millions of new paths are formed.

Sanitarium78
11-02-2011, 07:51 PM
Again, dude, I think you're missing the point. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT BAND MAY HAVE BEEN. If Sabbath never existed, then another band could have sprung up into existence that started metal. You change one thing in history, and millions of new paths are formed.

Maybe I did miss the point. But Sabbath was the band that started it all when it comes to metal. This whole "someone else would've come along" is all speculative. Sabbath was the band that "came along" and did it so give credit where it's due.

mankvill
11-02-2011, 08:26 PM
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40. At The Gates- Slaughter of the Soul

Letís see, how to put this delicately....At The Gates sucked in the early days. REALLY sucked. There would be times where they would have good guitar tone but shit song titles, then they would have great song titles but shit guitar tone. And not even shit in the delightful Burzum way. Because Varg put a supreme amount of effort into make Filosofem sound shit, but it ended up flipping back around and becoming a great buzz sound. At The Gates put out a satisfactory Swedish death metal album with The Red In The Sky Is Ours, but With Fear I Molest the Flaming Buttsex was a bunch of whiny losers pouting that they had no friends while a thousand John Goodmanís were taco shitting in the background.

Finally At The Gates decides to get serious in 1994. Add a series of unfortunate touring events and you get this album. What we have here are a series of buzz-saw heavy catchy death thrash songs (though more the latter than the former IMO). This was another staple of the modern metal scene that Boris maligned. But I noticed something curious. He thought both Blinded By Fear and the title track were damn good songs, but it was Cold where the band slipped down the spiral into Gothenfuckery. My logic was ďwell if the two songs he likes are the two classics from the album....then I should have nothing to worry about!Ē And of course, I was right. As for the mid section of Cold, well Ultraboris doesnít like the section of the song Iced Earth that goes ďcan you feel the madness here...Ē but I loved it because it explodes into ďWE ARE...TOGETHER NOW....CRUSH THE COWARDS....DO IT NOW!Ē and like that song, the soft section of Cold explodes into a fantastic guitar solo from Andy LaRoque (yes, THAT Andy Laroque).

So apparently he doesnít like tension and release. Screw you Boris.

Recommended Songs:
Slaughter of the Soul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJme5uubkyQ)
World of Lies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqMCvsTSKWE)

One of the best metal albums ever made, in any genre, from any time. :shred: Imma listen to this shit right MEOW

Rocco44
11-02-2011, 10:41 PM
Love that At The Gates record. Highly influential in my musical journey. I also dig their early stuff quite a bit despite the weak production.

JRA
11-03-2011, 08:21 AM
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39. Black Sabbath- Volume 4

One thing you might have started noticing around say.....entry 89 is that just because an album is higher than others does not necessarily mean itís the most consistent. I mean shit I have Somewhere Out In Space at 67, over about 10 or 11 of the most critically acclaimed metal albums ever! How the fuck does that work? Well, see if I may humbly say so, I think Iím the beginning of a new type of music fan. I still buy albums and listen to more than just singles, but if I see a track thatís less than a minute thatís an atmosphere piece (or rather if they are songs that flat out suck) I am flat out removing them from the album to create a better listening experience. And I can do this with the wonderful brand new concept of the playlist.

Simply put, I believe a playlist with the tracklisting

Wheels of Confusion/The Straightener
Tomorrows Dream
Supernaut
Snowblind
Cornucopia
St. Vitus Dance
Under The Sun/ Every Day Comes & Goes

Is a better album than an actual album with the tracklisting

Black Sabbath
The Wizard
Behind The Wall of Sleep
NIB
Wicked World
Evil Woman
Sleeping Village/a Bit of Fingers Warning

And since that playlist just happens to feature all the songs from the same album, guess what, thatís the albums new tracklisting. Sure if Iím driving in a car without an iPod and I have the Volume 4 CD with me Iíll sit through Changes and Laguna Sunrise, but the rest of the time, Supernaut comes after Tommorrowís Dream and Valley of the Kings comes after Guardians of Mankind. Maybe this would have ďobjectivelyĒ been a better album if the record executives werenít so fucking concerned that one of the songs from their artists was actively promoting cocaine and been more concerned why there was a worthless non-musical sound effects piece that lasted for two minutes on the album.

Recommended Songs:
Snowblind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHal84S_XkI)
Under The Sun/Every Day Comes & Goes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x8LbhQlOYc)

daimonos
11-03-2011, 08:42 AM
Volume 4 might be my favorite Sabbath album. It's definitely their heaviest, and was way ahead of it's time. "Under the Sun" should forever be heralded as one of the most classic metal songs ever. It was undoubtedly the darkest, heaviest song there was in 1972. "Supernaut" gets me incredibly pumped every time I hear it. The rest of the album is classic as well. Great choice.

IrritatedTrout
11-03-2011, 11:34 AM
Great choice. I think I'm gonna listen to it as soon as Among the Living ends.

JRA
11-03-2011, 05:00 PM
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38. Dissection- Storm of the Lightís Bane

Letís talk about the positive impact Ultraboris has had on my life for a second. There are many great thrash bands I would not have discovered if not for him (Overkill, Dark Angel, Kreator, Exodus) but I suppose the most intriguing of his recommendations is this. He [used to] rank it somewhere in the low 80ís and describes it as ďGothenburg that doesnít utterly suckĒ ďwhat melodic death metal should sound likeĒ etc. Except its not melodic death metal. At all. Itís Black Metal. Hi-fi black metal. One of the best black metal albums of all time. Yea, Iím not sure how this one got lumped in with Dark Tranquility and At The Gates aside from location. Maybe it was punishment from the metal community for Jon Nodveidt because he belonged to an apocalyptic gang. And he killed someone.

Whatever, this album fucking rocks. This was an album that was in constant rotation for at least 6 months This is for people who like that old time a rock & roll, except with tremolo riffs, blast beats and icy cold melodies. If you love latter day Immortal, well this album was At The Heart of Winter about 4 years before At The Heart of Winter. You owe it to yourself to seek this one out and prepare for a snow day where youíll be making snow angels in lakes of blood.

Recommended Songs:
Thorns of Crimson Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xn3BnYaFSk)
Where Dead Angels Lie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM73Do42VTo)

SomewhereInTime72
11-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Christ, that Dissection album is amazing. It's not even like my "thing" and it's almost as if I shouldn't like it. But it's just so awesome that I don't even care because listening to it is the shit.

El Gordo
11-03-2011, 06:20 PM
:lol: And the Boris references continue... Love it.

DementedX14
11-03-2011, 07:56 PM
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38. Dissection- Storm of the Lightís Bane

Letís talk about the positive impact Ultraboris has had on my life for a second. There are many great thrash bands I would not have discovered if not for him (Overkill, Dark Angel, Kreator, Exodus) but I suppose the most intriguing of his recommendations is this. He [used to] rank it somewhere in the low 80ís and describes it as ďGothenburg that doesnít utterly suckĒ ďwhat melodic death metal should sound likeĒ etc. Except its not melodic death metal. At all. Itís Black Metal. Hi-fi black metal. One of the best black metal albums of all time. Yea, Iím not sure how this one got lumped in with Dark Tranquility and At The Gates aside from location. Maybe it was punishment from the metal community for Jon Nodveidt because he belonged to an apocalyptic gang. And he killed someone.

Whatever, this album fucking rocks. This was an album that was in constant rotation for at least 6 months This is for people who like that old time a rock & roll, except with tremolo riffs, blast beats and icy cold melodies. If you love latter day Immortal, well this album was At The Heart of Winter about 4 years before At The Heart of Winter. You owe it to yourself to seek this one out and prepare for a snow day where youíll be making snow angels in lakes of blood.

Recommended Songs:
Thorns of Crimson Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xn3BnYaFSk)
Where Dead Angels Lie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM73Do42VTo)

Another great choice and even though you classify it as black metal I still like to think of it as the best melodic black metal album ever made. Too bad Jon NŲdtveidt killed himself.:hecho: I would have love to see Dissection live.