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ravenheart
08-29-2011, 05:40 PM
Summer of Hate Tour
Venue: The Purple Turtle
Support: Atomkraft / Deceptor
Set times: 22:20 - ??

Angels Fall To Hell
Pandemonium
The Plague Called Man
Conquest
Bitter End
Summer of Hate
Evil Reign
Burning Star
Monarch of Bloodshed
Dracula's Castle
Angel of Death
The King Is Dead
Baptized In Blood
Alma Negra
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The King of Hell
Run With The Pack

ravenheart
08-29-2011, 05:41 PM
I am assuming the last four songs were actually played. They were on the written setlist, and nothing had been cut from that up until then, but I left after The King is Dead.

I live in hope that one day small venues will understand that you can't run late on Sundays or national holidays (today) in London.

christopher
08-29-2011, 05:47 PM
I live in hope that one day small venues will understand that you can't run late on Sundays or national holidays (today) in London.

Uhh why? And what holiday is today?

mankvill
08-29-2011, 05:59 PM
I am assuming the last four songs were actually played. They were on the written setlist, and nothing had been cut from that up until then, but I left after The King is Dead.

Fuck you.

I wish I could hate you to bald.

edit: actually what the fuck? One song from Nosferatu?

ravenheart
08-29-2011, 06:00 PM
Uhh why? And what holiday is today?

A pointless one. But I don't argue with a day off work ;)

Because when you run late in London, people can't get home. Basic principle for all music in London is concerts finish at 11pm, clubs start at 11:30pm and run until 3ish. The people who go to clubs know they are in for a late finish, and go there for that reason, people who go to concerts do not.

Transport stops running at around midnight on a normal day, but it's massively disrupted most Sundays and certainly every national holiday. My journey, as an example, took two hours each way for this show. It should take one hour. But I don't mind how long it takes, just so long a the venue plays the game and getting the transport is actually possible.

And the only people who drive to concerts in London are the band, and people who have come from somewhere where there isn't a train service, or somewhere far enough away that they're going to have to stay in a hotel anyway.

If this had been a normal weekday or a Saturday, then it would have been fine. Not ideal, and certainly unusual, but workable. But not on a holiday because the travel situation doesn't allow that and the venue should know that.

Plus, the doors opened at 7pm. There's no real excuse for Helstar not coming on until 10:20pm.

ravenheart
08-29-2011, 06:02 PM
Fuck you.

I wish I could hate you to bald.

edit: actually what the fuck? One song from Nosferatu?

Yeah, yeah. Tell it to the venue.

ravenheart
08-30-2011, 02:36 AM
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wroed
09-05-2011, 08:50 AM
There's no real excuse for Helstar not coming on until 10:20pm.

I heard they were delayed arriving from Europe.

Annoyed I missed this but was away on holiday.

Did you see Atomkraft? Nostalgia made me want to see them, though understand it's just Tony Dolan and hired hands.

ravenheart
09-05-2011, 08:59 AM
Yep, that's right. Still not good enough on the venue's part for a bank holiday. It's a shame and all, but you just shorten the support bands' sets.

I caught the last three songs of Atomkraft. It was just Tony Dolan, I think the drummer from Gama Bomb, and I can't remember which bands he said the other two guys were from. To be honest, I thought they were very poor.

wroed
09-06-2011, 06:00 AM
Yep, that's right. Still not good enough on the venue's part for a bank holiday. It's a shame and all, but you just shorten the support bands' sets..

I agree, though I think most of the gigs I've been to at the Purple Turtle have run over. It often puts me off going to shows there if I think I may have a problem getting home. Strangest was Sabaton in 2008 (link to review below). I understand they hadn't been told Intense had been added to the line-up locally so in order that they could make their ferry they made Intense go on last after they'd packed up the back line.

http://www.rockersdigest.com/Article/259/Sabaton+_+Grailknights+_+Intense

I caught the last three songs of Atomkraft. It was just Tony Dolan, I think the drummer from Gama Bomb, and I can't remember which bands he said the other two guys were from. To be honest, I thought they were very poor.

Ah, best I stick to my memories from 1988 then!

ravenheart
09-06-2011, 06:23 AM
Strangest was Sabaton in 2008 (link to review below). I understand they hadn't been told Intense had been added to the line-up locally so in order that they could make their ferry they made Intense go on last after they'd packed up the back line.

Perfectly reasonable. I'd always rather artists put their foot down when promoters and/or venues have fucked up.

I remember the first of what would become the annual St. George's Day London Saxon gig. It was at the Astoria and Saxon hadn't been told that the curfew had been moved forward for the G.A.Y. club to 10:30, meaning they had to finish at the absolute latest at 10:10.

They were told to shorten their set, but refused and just made them open the doors earlier, put the support on early, and they went on at 8 and played 130 minutes :party: