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jd091
08-10-2011, 11:00 AM
EDIT: THE LIST SO FAR

10.) Emmure's Speaker For the Dead (page 2) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=2)
9.) Suicide Silence's The Cleansing (page 4) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=4)
8.) Winds of Plague's Decimate the Weak (page 8) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=8)
7.) Suicide Silence's No Time To Bleed (page 12) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=12)
6.) The Acacia Strain's The Dead Walk (page 14) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=14)
5.) The Contortionist's Exoplanet (page 16) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=16)
4.) The Red Chord's Fused Together in Revolving Doors (page 18) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?p=386874&posted=1#post386874)
3.) All Shall Perish's The Price of Existence (page 20) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=20)
2.) Whitechapel's The Somatic Defilement (page 21) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=17698&page=21)
1.) The Acacia Strain's Wormwood (page 28) (http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?p=388375&posted=1#post388375)




*****ORIGINAL POST*****
Hey.

http://memefolder.com/thumb/794.jpg

I've been bored, and the more I look back, the more I realize that deathcore as a genre is dying. It's on its last legs. Most of you are probably rejoicing, and the rest who are ignorant to this fact are now rejoicing. It's the sad truth.

I remember back in 2006, the first time I discovered deathcore, and it changed the way I viewed metal. I was blissfully ignorant to its scene and reputation, and remember back when I enjoyed it just for its sound. Now, it's in its decline- Suicide Silence's and Winds of Plague's new records sucked, All Shall Perish, Job for a Cowboy, and Whitechapel are ditching all of their breakdowns, and all the kiddies want Crabcore/Sumeriancore/Djent.

So sit back, stretch your fingers, and begin the trolling against me! I want to see your unfettered, honest opinions about this music. If you secretly like it, reveal it. If you hate it, GIVE ME YOUR HATE! I find it hilarious, and will agree with most of your points.

SO WHO'S WITH ME!?!?!?!

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/deathcore-500x375.jpg

mankvill
08-10-2011, 11:04 AM
I hate this shit already

jd091
08-10-2011, 11:05 AM
I hate this shit already

That's what I like to hear. You think you hate me now, you have no idea.

smearCampaign
08-10-2011, 11:11 AM
http://memefolder.com/thumb/794.jpg


Is that a Gabe Newell trollface? Does he secretly listen to deathcore while counting his money from Portal 2?

jd091
08-10-2011, 11:17 AM
Is that a Gabe Newell trollface? Does he secretly listen to deathcore while counting his money from Portal 2?

Yes, and yes. And also while he holds meetings with his development teams:

"You guys think we should make episode 3 yet?"

"Naw."

"Okay, we'll meet back in a year."

mankvill
08-10-2011, 11:19 AM
Yes, and yes. And also while he holds meetings with his development teams:

"You guys think we should make episode 3 yet?"

"Naw."

"Okay, we'll meet back in a year."

:bouville:

mastodon421
08-10-2011, 11:35 AM
I wouldn't say deathcore is dying when the two best records the genre has ever produced (imo) came out this year.:confused:

jd091
08-10-2011, 11:37 AM
I wouldn't say deathcore is dying when the two best records the genre has ever produced (imo) came out this year.:confused:

All Shall Perish and... Winds of Plague? :)

jd091
08-10-2011, 11:41 AM
Ok, I think I'm gonna start it off with a bang here in a bit... You guys are gonna love this first one. I think I'll try posting 1 a day or so. SUSPENSE.

larvtard
08-10-2011, 11:44 AM
I am looking forward to it immensely. Immensely.

mastodon421
08-10-2011, 11:47 AM
All Shall Perish and... Winds of Plague? :)

1 for 2 ain't bad... Born Of Osiris is the other one. The new Winds Of Plague is pretty meh overall, easily the worst thing they have ever done.

larvtard
08-10-2011, 11:51 AM
1 for 2 ain't bad... Born Of Osiris is the other one. The new Winds Of Plague is pretty meh overall, easily the worst thing they have ever done.

BoO (gawd I feel gay just for typing that acronym) is sumeriancore tho

ShatteredFlame
08-10-2011, 11:54 AM
I am actually gonna listen to all the albums you put up :lol:. I never actually gave deathcore a good listen, I just hate all the negativity that comes up every time its brought up.

jd091
08-10-2011, 11:57 AM
10.) SPEAKER OF THE DEAD

http://music.is-amazing.com/sites/music.is-amazing.com/files/imagecache/Covers/covers/emmure_0.jpg

Didn't see that coming. Or maybe you did. In any case, here's my interesting backwards argument for this album:

For a long time, I hated Emmure. I remember watching one of their old videos, going, "why do all these guys dress like ?" And I didn't dig the speak-then-scream vocal style of Thanos. Anyway, last year, I had a friend on facebook who kept telling me to listen to this album. I refused for a long time. A looooong time. Then after reading a hilarious metalsucks article about how ridiculous the lyrics are, (http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/02/18/a-track-by-track-breakdown-of-frankie-palmeris-track-by-track-breakdown-of-the-new-emmure-album/) I decided to give it a shot.

What I didn't expect was me liking it. Right from the opening breakdown of "Children of Cybertron", I found myself oddly intrigued. Why? After careful observation, meditation, and reflection, It's due to a couple reasons:

1.) Mindless groove breakdowns. Sometimes, that's all my ear wants to hear, and Emmure delivers that. Screw solos, technicality, and substance! I can't listen to Obscura all day, dammit!

2.) It's music for a specific mood. Mainly, for working out. I find this to be a great album to jog to; it's got that perfect balance of tempo and groove that keeps me going.

3.) I find it funny. From Transformers, to Street Fighter, to Alien Abductions, to "Drug Dealer Friend" where the only lyrics are I WANNA WATCH YOU SUCK HIS DICK... BITCH, it's got a certain charm to it for me. :lol: I don't know why. I don't take it seriously. But it's just fun for me to throw on once in a while.

Examples:
Children of Cybertron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEX7RsUp7dA)
Drug Dealer Friend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHx8flEN77s)
Demons With Ryu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgYGgEyLZvE)


[I]So do you guys agree with me, or do you AGREE with me???

MPF
08-10-2011, 11:58 AM
You're starting with off with Emmure????


http://s.sfwgifs.com/img/1010/bart-milhouse.gif

jd091
08-10-2011, 12:02 PM
You're starting with off with Emmure????


http://s.sfwgifs.com/img/1010/bart-milhouse.gif

link no work! And yes, I am!

jd091
08-10-2011, 12:02 PM
BoO (gawd I feel gay just for typing that acronym) is sumeriancore tho

Exactly. Don't expect Born of Osiris, Veil of Maya, or After The Burial in this list, since I don't consider them deathcore.

MPF
08-10-2011, 12:07 PM
link no work! And yes, I am!

Damn, everytime I try posting a gif here it doesn't work anymore.

Here's the original, now less funny:

http://sfwgifs.com/gif/bart-milhouse

mankvill
08-10-2011, 12:19 PM
I've actually heard songs from this album and it is probably the worst deathcore I've ever heard. No joke.

jd, I hate you.

jd091
08-10-2011, 12:29 PM
I've actually heard songs from this album and it is probably the worst deathcore I've ever heard. No joke.

jd, I hate you.

:lol: Stay tuned; I think you might like some of my top choices.

AnataFan4Life
08-10-2011, 01:30 PM
I don't even consider Emmure deathcore. To me, they're nu-metal with breakdowns.

OraclesofAgony
08-10-2011, 01:48 PM
:barf:

jd091
08-10-2011, 01:50 PM
I don't even consider Emmure deathcore. To me, they're nu-metal with breakdowns.

lolololol I can totally see that, though I wouldn't go as far as to say nu-metal. They're definitely different than your standard Suicide Silence/Whitechapel deathcore.

slapguitarer
08-10-2011, 02:00 PM
This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 02:12 PM
Damn JD, I didn't think you'd stoop this low. :lol:

Oh, and that bit about ASP ditching their breakdowns is BS. HERP DERP YOUR GOD CAN'T SAVE YOU NOW

mastodon421
08-10-2011, 03:32 PM
I've actually heard songs from this album and it is probably the worst deathcore I've ever heard. No joke.


This. Emmure is the worst deathcore band by far.

jd091
08-10-2011, 03:33 PM
Oh, and that bit about ASP ditching their breakdowns is BS. HERP DERP YOUR GOD CAN'T SAVE YOU NOW

CAN YOUR GOOOOOOOOOOOD
SAVE YOU NOOOOOOOW
CAN YOUR GOD SAVE YOU NOOOOOOOOW?

*duhduh, duhduh duhduh, duhduh*

YOOOOOOOOOU COWAAAAAAAAARD

http://www.rocksins.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/MitchLucker.jpg

(sorry, I had to :()

jd091
08-10-2011, 03:35 PM
When should I post number 2, you think? It gets better, trust me. ;)

Though I really do recommend Speaker Of The Dead, srsly

brutal_descent
08-10-2011, 03:42 PM
When should I post number 2, you think? It gets better, trust me. ;)

Though I really do recommend Speaker Of The Dead, srsly

next; sooiside silence

jd091
08-10-2011, 03:45 PM
next; sooiside silence

...stop that right now

brutal_descent
08-10-2011, 03:48 PM
...stop that right now

sorry sorry

i bet it's the cleansing

mastodon421
08-10-2011, 04:12 PM
Exactly. Don't expect Born of Osiris, Veil of Maya, or After The Burial in this list, since I don't consider them deathcore.

Sumeriancore isn't a real thing. It's just deathcore that's more complex.

brutal_descent
08-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Sumeriancore isn't a real thing. It's just deathcore that's more complex.

Technical deathcore?

:LOLFC:

jd091
08-10-2011, 04:36 PM
9.) THE CLEANSING

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DWYQDgqdL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

BrutalDescent knows me too well. Or maybe I gave it away with the No Pity reference? ;) Here is why I like this band, so you guys can get a glimpse inside my mind.

This album kind of epitomizes what I loved about deathcore, and still do- it's short, it's fast, it's low, and it's heavy. No real technicality or solos, no nice pampered production. Suicide Silence is probably the best deathcore band out there to create a punk-like atmosphere: they grab their instruments, and literally bang the shit out of them for 3 minutes, where the only goal in mind is to create as much dissonant noise as possible. Kind of what drew me to bands like Converge in the first place, but that's a whole different spectrum of "heavy" and "dissonant".

The production is what I love every time about this, too. It's not clean cut, technical death metal or metalcore. It's dirty. Almost sludge-like. They are just turning every knob up to 10, banging on the lowest string, and the result is muddy as fuck. The breakdowns are simple, and easy to listen to. It really helped change my musical opinions in 2007. I loved that pure heaviness and groove behind them. I still think they're very "metal" for the deathcore scene. Other than thin, tattooed Mitch Lucker (who hasn't even given into the scene-ness of gauges, thank Jesus), the rest of the band look like greasy, beta metalheads. No scene appeal whatsoever. It kind of epitomizes the mentality on this album, too: they don't give a fuck what people think of it, or how they will analyze it, or how they will receive their image. I don't think they've truly come to grips with the scene fans they have, anyway (Mitch always calls for people to circle pit and mosh at their shows as opposed to slamming). Their one mission is to create dirty, heavy songs filled with blastbeats and breakdowns, a feat which they achieved marvelously in my mind.

Of course, this album isn't without its flaws- you can tell it was poorly produced and written. Many of the songs drag on too long, and what should have been an 8 or 9 song slugfest turned into a 13 song snooze-fest. I rarely ever listen to the album beyond track 8, "Bludgeoned to Death". But the gems that stand out to me- "Unanswered", "The Price of Beauty", "The Fallen", "No Pity for a Coward", "The Disease", "Bludgeoned to Death"... all of them are perfect for mindlessly banging my head, preferably while running the treadmill. This album will always hold a special place for me because of that.

Notable tracks:
Unanswered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yr5rn3Sv_4)
The Fallen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnhGZUKOIo)
The Disease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8PNvqx4Q2k)

jd091
08-10-2011, 04:37 PM
Sumeriancore isn't a real thing. It's just deathcore that's more complex.

I'll do my own Sumeriancore list sometime too, if you want. And I still defend it isn't deathcore. ;)

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 04:47 PM
As much as I really don't like a lot of their music (I've always dug "Unanswered", though), Suicide Silence are easily the best deathcore live act I've ever seen. They actually manage to sound heavy as fuck, which oh so many other deathcore bands fail to accomplish. I think it has something to do with their guitar tone. They've got more of a raw death metal tone compared to their peers.

I also probably like them live because they actually look metal as fuck, aside from Mitch obviously. Idk, I just like watching the constant pinwheel headbanging. :lol:

I must point out though that Mitch comes across to me that he needs to get his head out of his ass. I was reading some interview where he said something along the lines of "I don't write typical death metal lyrics that mean nothing, I write about shit that really matters."

OraclesofAgony
08-10-2011, 04:56 PM
As much as I really don't like a lot of their music (I've always dug "Unanswered", though), Suicide Silence are easily the best deathcore live act I've ever seen. They actually manage to sound heavy as fuck, which oh so many other deathcore bands fail to accomplish. I think it has something to do with their guitar tone. They've got more of a raw death metal tone compared to their peers.

I also probably like them live because they actually look metal as fuck, aside from Mitch obviously. Idk, I just like watching the constant pinwheel headbanging. :lol:

I must point out though that Mitch comes across to me that he needs to get his head out of his ass. I was reading some interview where he said something along the lines of "I don't write typical death metal lyrics that mean nothing, I write about shit that really matters."

I think they're one of the worst bands I've ever seen and I hate the vocalist with a passion.

jd091
08-10-2011, 05:04 PM
I think they're one of the worst bands I've ever seen and I hate the vocalist with a passion.

:lol: Fair enough, I can see how its easy to hate Mitch.

As much as I really don't like a lot of their music (I've always dug "Unanswered", though), Suicide Silence are easily the best deathcore live act I've ever seen. They actually manage to sound heavy as fuck, which oh so many other deathcore bands fail to accomplish. I think it has something to do with their guitar tone. They've got more of a raw death metal tone compared to their peers.

I also probably like them live because they actually look metal as fuck, aside from Mitch obviously. Idk, I just like watching the constant pinwheel headbanging. :lol:

I must point out though that Mitch comes across to me that he needs to get his head out of his ass. I was reading some interview where he said something along the lines of "I don't write typical death metal lyrics that mean nothing, I write about shit that really matters."

I agree with pretty much all of this. They are definitely "heavy" live, and I'd argue its all in their guitar tone. Again, they mostly look metal as hell, which is awesome. Lots of windmilling. :shred:

Mitch is a great frontman, even though I'd agree he is an arrogant ass. Even live, he was one of those guys who kept yelling, "CIRCLE PIT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! GET VIOLENT!" Which kind of annoys me. It gets the crowd going, though, which overall makes the show more fun. I'd argue that they were better at interacting with the crowd versus Acacia Strain and Whitechapel, for example.

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 05:10 PM
I just like the stomp thing he does before a breakdown. :lol: It's stupid but mildly entertaining.

daimonos
08-10-2011, 05:26 PM
I never had the urge to get up onstage and beat the shit out of a singer.

Then I saw Suicide Silence.

If they're the best live deathcore band there is, that's a damn shame, because I count them as the worst band I've ever seen.

jd091
08-10-2011, 05:30 PM
I never had the urge to get up onstage and beat the shit out of a singer.

Then I saw Suicide Silence.

If they're the best live deathcore band there is, that's a damn shame, because I count them as the worst band I've ever seen.

:lol: I love this!

I don't think they're the best live deathcore band I've seen, actually. That will be revealed later... but they do know how to work a crowd.

larvtard
08-10-2011, 05:33 PM
Suicide Silence really isn't that bad live. Mildly enjoyable, even. And so is that album. Sorta.

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 05:38 PM
I never had the urge to get up onstage and beat the shit out of a singer.

Then I saw Suicide Silence.

:lol: I've had the same feeling, except with Born of Osiris and Rose Funeral.

jd091
08-10-2011, 05:41 PM
:lol: I've had the same feeling, except with Born of Osiris and Rose Funeral.

If you know my musical interests, then you know that Born of Osiris is the Sumeriancore band I like least. However, I thought they were incredible live. They absolutely slayed. I'd love to see them again sometime soon.

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 05:45 PM
If you know my musical interests, then you know that Born of Osiris is the Sumeriancore band I like least. However, I thought they were incredible live. They absolutely slayed. I'd love to see them again sometime soon.

Ughh, maybe they weren't that bad in terms of performers, but I wanted to beat the shit our of their faggy-douche-looking keyboardist. It didn't help that they were sandwiched between Hate Eternal and Unearth, either.

And this (http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/27/dirt-fest-13-interviews-part-1-born-of-osiris-whos-glenn-danzig/) interview made me lose any little bit of respect I had for them.

jd091
08-10-2011, 05:55 PM
Ughh, maybe they weren't that bad in terms of performers, but I wanted to beat the shit our of their faggy-douche-looking keyboardist. It didn't help that they were sandwiched between Hate Eternal and Unearth, either.

And this (http://www.metalsucks.net/2009/07/27/dirt-fest-13-interviews-part-1-born-of-osiris-whos-glenn-danzig/) interview made me lose any little bit of respect I had for them.

:lol: Yeah. And don't forget the "We're Born of Osiris and we slap bitches" interview.

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 05:59 PM
:lol: Yeah. And don't forget the "We're Born of Osiris and we slap bitches" interview.

I didn't even read that one, nor do I want to. Fuck that band. All of the musical talent in the world (which I admit, they are technical beasts) couldn't make me respect them. I can't believe Tosin Abasi toured with those fucks.

illuminatus917
08-10-2011, 07:12 PM
the more I look back, the more I realize that deathcore as a genre is dying. It's on its last legs.

It's as popular now as it has been for the last 5 years.

jd091
08-10-2011, 07:21 PM
It's as popular now as it has been for the last 5 years.

Not exactly true, but I plan on explaining that later.

larvtard
08-10-2011, 07:22 PM
Not exactly true, but I plan on explaining that later.

CLIFFHANGER

treghet
08-10-2011, 07:29 PM
Not exactly true, but I plan on explaining that later.

You're right. It's actually not nearly as popular. As you said, djent / crabcore / Sumeriancore are what is "in" now. I think the majority of the people here don't realize the decline in the scene because they try not to pay attention to it. In fact, I think you and I are the only regular members who go to deathcore shows.

jd091
08-10-2011, 07:32 PM
You're right. It's actually not nearly as popular. As you said, djent / crabcore / Sumeriancore are what is "in" now. I think the majority of the people here don't realize the decline in the scene because they try not to pay attention to it. In fact, I think you and I are the only regular members who go to deathcore shows.

Aww, you're such a bro. :hug:

But yeah, my point exactly. Phil Bozeman worship has declined considerably since 2008.

BloodoftheKings
08-10-2011, 07:41 PM
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q33/BossTycoon707/gavemecancer.jpg

jd091
08-10-2011, 07:41 PM
:lol: Mission: accomplished! And I still have 8 more!

mankvill
08-10-2011, 07:45 PM
ugh, seriously one of the worst bands to ever happen to metal.

smearCampaign
08-10-2011, 07:49 PM
I think the only deathcore I can get into at all would be The Red Chord, I guess because they are more on the grind end of the spectrum.

jd091
08-10-2011, 08:07 PM
I think the only deathcore I can get into at all would be The Red Chord, I guess because they are more on the grind end of the spectrum.

...

I'm just gonna leave this post here for now.

300%_Density
08-10-2011, 08:15 PM
So many emotions in this thread. I was excited for this bc of all the hate it'll get. But then the first I see is Emmure and then that changes the LOL factor. I'm torn. I want to laugh / I want to cry. Damn you jd.

jd091
08-10-2011, 08:29 PM
So many emotions in this thread. I was excited for this bc of all the hate it'll get. But then the first I see is Emmure and then that changes the LOL factor. I'm torn. I want to laugh / I want to cry. Damn you jd.

Do both! At the same time! :lol: :bawling:

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 08:58 PM
Aww, you're such a bro. :hug:

But yeah, my point exactly. Phil Bozeman worship has declined considerably since 2008.

Probably the only deathcore vocalist worth worshiping, IMO at least. The guy has some seriously beastly growls.

jd091
08-10-2011, 09:17 PM
The guy has some seriously beastly growls.

Agree so much, and will discuss in due time! ;)

makethemsuffer12
08-10-2011, 09:22 PM
Agree so much, and will discuss in due time! ;)

I sure hope it's A New Era or at least Exile. Could never really get into what I've heard from their first album. That being said, I'm not a huge fan by any means to begin with, I just dig a few songs off the last 2.

mastodon421
08-11-2011, 04:36 AM
I sure hope it's A New Era or at least Exile. Could never really get into what I've heard from their first album. That being said, I'm not a huge fan by any means to begin with, I just dig a few songs off the last 2.

It's going to be the first album. JD talks about how much he loves it all time. I like Whitechapel to an extent, but I have to say their debut is easily their weakest.

jd091
08-11-2011, 04:42 AM
It's going to be the first album. JD talks about how much he loves it all time. I like Whitechapel to an extent, but I have to say their debut is easily their weakest.

Hey now, don't be assuming anything just yet...

ShatteredFlame
08-11-2011, 08:10 AM
Spotify doesn't have Suicide Silence so I'm gonna have to download it to listen :bouville:

larvtard
08-11-2011, 08:18 AM
Spotify doesn't have Suicide Silence so I'm gonna have to download it to listen :bouville:

CENTURY MEDIA ARE BADDD WAHHHHH DON'T THEY REALIZE THE CD IS STUPID
-Vince Neilstein

jd091
08-11-2011, 08:26 AM
CENTURY MEDIA ARE BADDD WAHHHHH DON'T THEY REALIZE THE CD IS STUPID
-Vince Neilstein

:lol: Vince raises some valid points, but same ith Century Media. I don't know who to really trust on this whole debate.

jd091
08-11-2011, 08:27 AM
Spotify doesn't have Suicide Silence so I'm gonna have to download it to listen :bouville:

You could just YouTube it... and if you are getting into them for the first time, check out the songs I mentioned/linked. There's a lot of mediocre filler on the album.

BloodoftheKings
08-11-2011, 09:12 AM
There's a lot of mediocre filler on the album.

So for a top ten of a genre you claim to like the 10 & 9 selections are albums you think are fun but don't take seriously and an album with mediocre filler tracks?

jd091
08-11-2011, 09:20 AM
So for a top ten of a genre you claim to like the 10 & 9 selections are albums you think are fun but don't take seriously and an album with mediocre filler tracks?

Yep! This is deathcore, we're talking about. And the good of those albums far outweigh the bad, hence why I include them. Unbelievably there isn't much "perfect" deathcore albums out there in my mind. Just because I don't take Emmure seriously doesn't mean I don't enjoy their album, and just because The Cleansing is too long and has filler doesn't mean the best cuts of that fillet aren't incredibly tasty. Understand me?

And for clarification, this isn't exactly a "THESE ARE THE BEST DEATHCORE ALBUMS EVER" list, just more like the deathcore albums I enjoy/respect the most, and help represent what "deathcore" means to me. These albums embody why I like deathcore. I'm not trying to find the most relatable deathcore albums for pure metalheads; Treghet already made that list. So yeah. Stay tuned! I'll try to win you all over to give these albums a listen and/or a second opinion.

makethemsuffer12
08-11-2011, 09:35 AM
:lol: Vince raises some valid points, but same ith Century Media. I don't know who to really trust on this whole debate.

I personally side with Vince. Not saying CM is wrong, the music is their product and ultimately it is up to them what they want to do with it, but I feel like they got overly defensive about a freaking blogger criticizing them.

illuminatus917
08-11-2011, 10:17 AM
You're right. It's actually not nearly as popular. As you said, djent / crabcore / Sumeriancore are what is "in" now. I think the majority of the people here don't realize the decline in the scene because they try not to pay attention to it. In fact, I think you and I are the only regular members who go to deathcore shows.

Granted, I don't go to deathcore shows, nor do I intend to. Maybe my observations deceive me, but I see just as many kids these days wearing deathcore shirts as I have the past number of years.

jd091
08-11-2011, 10:45 AM
Think I'm gonna try and post 2 more today, and 2 more tomorrow. You guys might laugh at me today, but tomorrow is gonna be interesting...

*rubs hands together diabolically*

jd091
08-11-2011, 11:49 AM
8.) DECIMATE THE WEAK

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-cCb-TWkMWo/SQorKQqudiI/AAAAAAAABMo/RfQUCd2AAL0/s320/pico+pal+qe+lee.jpg

I think you guys knew it was only a matter of time before this album came up. I have some fond memories with this album, and I belive it's an album every metal fan should give a fair chance. Let me explain.

I actually remember when this first came out in 2008, and I didn't like it. It wasn't really heavy, like The Cleansing. I remember actually reading an interview with the guitarist, and he said all the parts on the album were played in Drop-D or D standard, on 6-string guitars. But what they lacked in "low heaviness", they more than made up for with symphonic arrangements and riffing.

Too many deathcore bands try and just chug the low 7th string in breakdowns, and henceforth, people dismiss the genre as not musically talented. Fair enough. Winds of Plague aren't one of those bands. After sitting down for a while and giving this album a fair chance, it grew on me more and more. I really loved the symphonic element of the keyboards, and the "middle-eastern" sound of the riffs versus your standard minor scale. They really tried to go for that samurai-ish image, and I felt they suceeded. Listen to the opening riffs of "Origins and Endings". The pentatonic scale is featured frequently, and the breakdowns are very groove-oriented as opposed to changing the time signature.

Of course, when they aren't doing the pentatonic-riffing, there are a couple of those famous, get-really-slow-and-heavy breakdowns. They're only thrown in at a couple choice incidents in the songs, which make them sound all the heavier as opposed to hearing one every 10 seconds. "Anthems of Apocalypse" has a pretty decend melodic-y opening sequence, reminiscent of the template As Blood Runs Black presented a couple years prior. It actually features a decent solo for more than 2 measures, and then finally hits the breakdown after an excellent build up around the 1:55 mark. This isn't Emmure, or the Acacia Strain, where the entire song is built around breakdowns. They're thrown in strategically, and make sense in their context. Perhaps the most famous example of this is in "The Impaler" (a fucking great song to me to this day), around the 1:45 mark. The song is pretty much one epic build up to that breakdown. And the lyrics are just catchy as hell, all about epic battles and conquering nations and killing lords and commanders and eviscerating enemy soldiers... lyrical porn for my Lord-of-the-Rings-worshipping high school self. :drool:

And if you still don't like this album, just throw on "Decimate the Weak". The opening minute of that song tears my face off every time. It's very much rooted in the "death" part of deathcore. Even around the 1:15 part, you can hear an obvious hardcore influence, which I really dig.

This album isn't higher for me because, again, I feel like there are some boring filler songs on it, which is a shame. When WoP get's it right here, they absolutely destroy, blending riff-> breakdown -> riff together in a successful, cohesive, and especially symphonic way. Their sound here is unique, and yet to be truly imitated, a feat that not many other deathcore bands can say.

Notable Examples:

Origins and Endings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG_pRMe40TI)
The Impaler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zD4xwKEz2s)
Decimate the Weak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-ykpDFKwA)

mankvill
08-11-2011, 12:56 PM
oh my fucking god

jd091
08-11-2011, 01:00 PM
oh my fucking god

You didn't read a single word I wrote, did you? :lol:

mankvill
08-11-2011, 01:01 PM
You didn't read a single word I wrote, did you? :lol:

I don't really need to though. Back when deathcore was SUPA NEW AND KEWL I gave all these albums a chance and they were just absolutely dreadful. I'm kind of afraid to see what you'll post coming up.

My guesses:

Whitechapel
The Acacia Strain
The Devil Wears Prada

All of which are just as bad or worse than the three you've posted so far.

I CONDEMN THIS THREAD

xStructualDefect
08-11-2011, 01:14 PM
I like the SS and WOPs albums posted so far. I used to hate both of them when they first came out but they both eventually grew on me. If I were to guess WC's first or second album will be on this, along with All Shall Perish's The Price of Existence.

jd091
08-11-2011, 01:16 PM
What in sweet Odin's name gives you the notion that The Devil Wears Prada is Deathcore?

ShatteredFlame
08-11-2011, 01:44 PM
Kind of funny how all of these albums came out within the last 3 years. Where's that one revolutionary "classic" band everyone wants to be?

GarageMetal468
08-11-2011, 02:29 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS UP MOTHERFUCKERS THIS IS WINDS OF PLAGUE ON DAT 2008 SHIT

:barf:

ShatteredFlame
08-11-2011, 03:02 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS UP MOTHERFUCKERS THIS IS WINDS OF PLAGUE ON DAT 2008 SHIT

:barf:

haha I lol'd on that part

so far for me it's Winds of Plague > Emmure > Suicide Silence

WoP had solos so at least there was something more than breakdowns. Emmure was just douchebag music, which can be funny. Suicide Silence was just terrible music though.

jd091
08-11-2011, 03:56 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS UP MOTHERFUCKERS THIS IS WINDS OF PLAGUE ON DAT 2008 SHIT

:barf:

:lol: That's actually my least favorite song on the album. It's so shitty, and out of place compared to the rest of the symphonic elements presented. I realize they want to be a hardcore band... but they're not. It just didn't work.

jd091
08-11-2011, 04:09 PM
Kind of funny how all of these albums came out within the last 3 years. Where's that one revolutionary "classic" band everyone wants to be?

I can tell you that band. It's a album, actually. An EP, to be specific. It came out in 2005. And it shares the name with one of the best videogames of all time.

Dextrimental
08-11-2011, 04:18 PM
I can tell you that band. It's a album, actually. An EP, to be specific. It came out in 2005. And it shares the name with one of the best videogames of all time.

Enlighten me....?

mankvill
08-11-2011, 04:40 PM
I can tell you that band. It's a album, actually. An EP, to be specific. It came out in 2005. And it shares the name with one of the best videogames of all time.

Lies, there are no EP's named after Chrono Trigger.

masterguy49
08-11-2011, 04:50 PM
Enlighten me....?

I'm guessing he is talking about Doom by Job for a Cowboy

Dextrimental
08-11-2011, 04:53 PM
I'm guessing he is talking about Doom by Job for a Cowboy

That'd make sense. Good stuff actually!

hellawaits77ny
08-11-2011, 07:34 PM
Cool thread J-dizzle!!!

Decimate The Weak is one of my favorite deatchore albums as well. Probably top 3. And man, some of you have an UNHEALTHY hatred for deathcore!!!:tongue:

jd091
08-11-2011, 07:52 PM
Thanks, Hellawaits! Like I said, when that album is good, it's great. It's just got a couple too many average to mediocre tracks to be rated much higher in my opinion.

Lies, there are no EP's named after Chrono Trigger.

:lol: I said ONE of the best games of all time, not *the* best. And gross; I'm not a JRPG fan. If you didn't have reason enough to hate me. ;) I'm too engrained in the Baldur's Gates, Neverwinters, and Planescapes of the west.

christopher
08-11-2011, 08:38 PM
Anthems to the Apocalypse was the last great thing those guys put out. It just went downhill after that. I prefer the shit they did as Bleak December to be honest. I miss the good old days.

jd091
08-11-2011, 09:26 PM
The Devil Wears Prada


I still want you to answer for why you think this is deathcore.


http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-are-you-fucking-kidding-me-clean.png

masterguy49
08-11-2011, 09:42 PM
Yeah I'm with Hell Awaits, Decimate the Weak is def. in my top 3 Deathcore albums of all time. If anything it is my favorite.

hellawaits77ny
08-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Thanks, Hellawaits! Like I said, when that album is good, it's great. It's just got a couple too many average to mediocre tracks to be rated much higher in my opinion.



.

Agreed, there are a few "meh" songs on there. There's more on every album, LOL. 'The Great Stone War' featured about 4-5 "mehs" and the newest one was mostly "meh" :tongue:

mankvill
08-11-2011, 10:41 PM
I still want you to answer for why you think this is deathcore.


http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/misc-are-you-fucking-kidding-me-clean.png

okay sorry, they're just shit faux-metalcore :finger:

Nick_to_the_face
08-11-2011, 11:54 PM
You're right. It's actually not nearly as popular. As you said, djent / crabcore / Sumeriancore are what is "in" now. I think the majority of the people here don't realize the decline in the scene because they try not to pay attention to it. In fact, I think you and I are the only regular members who go to deathcore shows.

HEY. I actually do go to deathcore shows...and I do enjoy me some deathcore...that being said.

HATERZ GUNNA HATE, I RAP CUZ U FAKE

Granted, I don't go to deathcore shows, nor do I intend to. Maybe my observations deceive me, but I see just as many kids these days wearing deathcore shirts as I have the past number of years.

This. At least around here. I see a lot of deathcore kiddies all the damn time. Especially around my band people,. The local music scene around here has a LOT of deathcore bands, and most of them talk to us.

Nick_to_the_face
08-11-2011, 11:57 PM
Also...I'm gonna take a look into any albums on here I haven't heard before. Except Emmure...no way man...no way.

And speaking of Suicide Silence, I listened to a lot of their songs the other week, to see if I could really get into them. And this is what I figured out. I like them...just not their music. If that makes sense :eyes:

and Winds of Plague kicks ass






:eyes:

orlandodavis
08-12-2011, 12:20 AM
Also...I'm gonna take a look into any albums on here I haven't heard before. Except Emmure...no way man...no way.

And speaking of Suicide Silence, I listened to a lot of their songs the other week, to see if I could really get into them. And this is what I figured out. I like them...just not their music. If that makes sense :eyes:

and Winds of Plague sucks ass






:eyes:

FTFY

mastodon421
08-12-2011, 03:53 AM
Nice pick with Decimate The Weak. First good album in this whole thread imo.

jd091
08-12-2011, 04:25 AM
Also...I'm gonna take a look into any albums on here I haven't heard before. Except Emmure...no way man...no way.

And speaking of Suicide Silence, I listened to a lot of their songs the other week, to see if I could really get into them. And this is what I figured out. I like them...just not their music. If that makes sense :eyes:


Ah, you aren't gonna even attempt to like them? Too afraid what will happen if it ends up being an awesome record?! ;) And your views on Suicide Silence make sense; I feel similar about some bands. Keep giving those songs I posted a try... :snivel:

Nice pick with Decimate The Weak. First good album in this whole thread imo.

Thanks. ;) Musically, it seems to be the one so far that's set up the most for Metalheads to get into.

FTFY

:lol:
okay sorry, they're just rly gud faux-metalcore :finger:

Thank you, that's more like it. ;)

larvtard
08-12-2011, 05:52 AM
I like them...just not their music. If that makes sense :eyes:



It doesn't... :eyes:

Nick_to_the_face
08-12-2011, 09:48 AM
FTFY

HEY. I actually do go to deathcore shows...and I do enjoy me some deathcore...that being said.

HATERZ GUNNA HATE, I RAP CUZ U FAKE


:cool:

Ah, you aren't gonna even attempt to like them? Too afraid what will happen if it ends up being an awesome record?! ;) And your views on Suicide Silence make sense; I feel similar about some bands. Keep giving those songs I posted a try... :snivel:



Alright, so I tried to listen to the suggested tracks. And here's what I think.

Children of Cybertron- The video is fucking stupid. And I'm pretty sure this is why people hate deathcore. As for the song itself, it's like a really bad Acacia Strain song. I know The Acacia Strain and Emmure share that quality of having a song revolve around a breakdown. But when The Acacia Strain does, it sounds good. This just sounded retarded.

Drug Dealer Friend- Nope. That's all I have to say.

Demons With Ryu- Ok. So this one wasn't sooo bad. But still pretty bad. It had it's moments where it could be somewhat listenable. But it just fails in the end

Nick_to_the_face
08-12-2011, 09:48 AM
It doesn't... :eyes:

SHUT UP LOGAN

OraclesofAgony
08-12-2011, 10:35 AM
Ah, you aren't gonna even attempt to like them? Too afraid what will happen if it ends up being an awesome record?! ;)

If for some sick, twisted reason I ever end up liking Emmure, kill me.

jd091
08-12-2011, 10:38 AM
If for some sick, twisted reason I ever end up liking Emmure, kill me.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

christopher
08-12-2011, 05:08 PM
JD, you should check my buddy's old band out. They were a really sick Deathcore band called The Hacksaw Circumcision. They were really big out here, then they disbanded when the drummer died.

http://www.myspace.com/thehacksawcircumcision

treghet
08-12-2011, 10:20 PM
I remember those guys. I think I was going to see them at Chain Reaction opening for Suicide Silence and The Faceless, but ended up not being able to go.

christopher
08-12-2011, 10:27 PM
I remember those guys. I think I was going to see them at Chain Reaction opening for Suicide Silence and The Faceless, but ended up not being able to go.

Oh shit! I went to that show. Just to see THC cause I hated SS at the time haha. There's a video on youtube from that show with me singing into the mic on one of their songs.

Edit: now that I think of it, I think that was their last show. A week or two later, the drummer was skate boarding and fell and cracked his skull open and everything went downhill from there :( RIP. I think the guys in THC are in the talks about resurrecting Tyranny(the band before THC) so hopefully that happens soon.

MPF
08-13-2011, 12:16 AM
This thread is...

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hellawaits77ny
08-13-2011, 01:34 AM
JD, you should check my buddy's old band out. They were a really sick Deathcore band called The Hacksaw Circumcision. They were really big out here, then they disbanded when the drummer died.

http://www.myspace.com/thehacksawcircumcision

That's a pretty sweet name, I'll have to check them out. Shame to hear about their drummer's death.

jd091
08-13-2011, 09:12 AM
JD, you should check my buddy's old band out. They were a really sick Deathcore band called The Hacksaw Circumcision. They were really big out here, then they disbanded when the drummer died.

http://www.myspace.com/thehacksawcircumcision

Not bad at all! They're almost more of a slam/grind band, which is pretty awesome. Love the low vocals.

#7 coming shortly...

GarageMetal468
08-13-2011, 09:28 AM
I love how the rating for this thread is 1 star

jd091
08-13-2011, 09:52 AM
7.) NO TIME TO BLEED

http://rantchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/No-Time-To-Bleed.jpg

Yep, yep, it's Suicide Silence again. And most people like The Cleansing more. But hear me out.

The bottom line with this album is that if you didn't enjoy the good parts of The Cleansing, you probably won't like this one. But if you did, then there's no reason you shouldn't love this one. Suicide Silence produced this one with Machine (of Ashes of the Wake/Sacrament fame from Lamb of God). On Ashes of the Wake, Machine took one of my favorite bands, and one of my favorite albums (As the Palaces Burn), and managed to harness all the energy and creative output the band had to create an even better record. It's no different here.

What's mainly improved is the songwriting of the band. They shortened and simplified the songs even more, creating solid 2-3 minute bursts of energy. The breakdowns aren't over complex, the choruses don't go on forever, and above all, they're more catchy. It's that punk mentality that I love here. Machine also managed to literally mix the songs louder than any other band I know. When I play it on my iPod, it sounds like I have the volume two clicks above where I actually have it. And for Suicide Silence, that's perfect. The production isn't clean, either, which is key. They kept that muddy, distorted-as-fuck guitar tone, and just create some of the heaviest breakdowns and riffs in deathcore because of it. Mitch's screaming is also kicked up a notch: his highs are twice as shriek-ish, and his lows are twice as angry.

Overall, the Cleansing was great, and had potential to improve. The band capitalized on that potential, and put out one of my favorite deathcore records to date. There was a long time where I hated the Cleansing and only liked this record, since it was so much more cohesive. I remember hearing "Wake Up" debuted on Sirius Radio for the first time ever way before the album came out, and thinking to myself, "holy shit is this the same band?" Production-wise, vocally, musically, and riff-wise, this record kills the Cleansing in almost every way.

Another great feat from this album is that there's not a singe song I dislike on it. They're all solid, grab-you-by-the-balls-and-make-you-wanna-do-an-extra-rep tunes. Lyrically, they embraced either the "do copious amounts of drugs" or "fuck all religion" standpoints, which I kind of have a sucker for as opposed to the standard "demons and hell" or "violence and war" themes. Standouts for me are, "Smoke", "Genocide", and "Something Invisible". From, "BUUUURRRN IT DOOOOOOOWN", to, "WEEE'VE BEEN FUCKING THIS WHORE MOTHER EARTH FOR A WHILE", to, "IT'S ALL BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL BELIEVING IN SOMETHING FUCKING INVISIBLE", this album is chalk-full of those cheesy, awesome deathcore anthemic versus that just get caught in my head all day. :D I don't know if anyone else feels that way, but when I listen to this genre, I want some mindless shit to scream along to, and SS definitely creates that. None of the songs over-use them, though, a fact which they messed up on on their new album. (Re: "Fuck Everthing" :tp:)

From its turbid simplicity, to the crass beauty of the production, to the catchy songwriting and lyrics, this album, in my mind, definitely deserves a spot here.

Notable Tracks:
Smoke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=binah1sLcv8)
Genocide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX7SufTr8vw&feature=related)
Something Invisible (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qekg5NSY8o0)

ShatteredFlame
08-13-2011, 10:04 AM
ugh I have to download another one :hecho:

jd091
08-13-2011, 10:08 AM
ugh I have to download another one :hecho:

:lol: And you can't even Spotify it since Century Media pulled out!

Don't worry- people who hate Suicide Silence, I got some better ones coming up. ;)

300%_Density
08-13-2011, 08:19 PM
I love how the rating for this thread is 1 star

I think that's b/c it's not possible to give thread's a negative #;)

hellawaits77ny
08-13-2011, 08:36 PM
Those cheesy-ass lyrics are so stupid. These guys have terrible lyrics.

Sorry to be a hater, I just can't dig Suicide Silence.

llama lom
08-13-2011, 09:05 PM
Solid pick. I think Mitch's vocals are the best on this record. I haven't given this one a listen since it came out I think, so I'll probably do that soon. I'm liking the list so far though! :fist:

jd091
08-13-2011, 09:13 PM
Those cheesy-ass lyrics are so stupid. These guys have terrible lyrics.

Sorry to be a hater, I just can't dig Suicide Silence.

It's fine man. I can totally see why people hate this band.

Solid pick. I think Mitch's vocals are the best on this record. I haven't given this one a listen since it came out I think, so I'll probably do that soon. I'm liking the list so far though! :fist:

Definitely! The Black Crown was so mediocre, especially vocally. They already hit their prime. Mitch's vocals are definitely the strongest here; I would recommend going back to it just for that.

And wow! You actually like it so far?! Thanks! I feel that from here on out I'll get less hate for my choices. Those 4 so far are somewhat controversial and divisive within the metal community.

mankvill
08-13-2011, 09:41 PM
No. Absolutely not. This is the album with Wake Up on it, right?

Worst fucking song ever.

JD imma disown you.

jd091
08-13-2011, 09:49 PM
No. Absolutely not. This is the album with Wake Up on it, right?

Worst fucking song ever.

JD imma disown you.

Wake Up is definitely a good song, but I tried not to mention it since it's the big single from this album and there are better songs on it.

And dude, has it ever been a secret that I liked this album? :lol: It's not that bad, man, compared to some other shit out there.

mankvill
08-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Wake Up is definitely a good song

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BVLMu74S0vA/Tg4QexXYc_I/AAAAAAAAAbU/vHmrdFlpnoY/s1600/1309544406284.gif

hellawaits77ny
08-14-2011, 01:03 AM
Goddamnit!! You're making me check out that Emmure album:eek:

masterguy49
08-14-2011, 07:07 AM
JD as much as I love you, the Emmure album only has like.... 3 listenable songs at best. Really, it's too long and it's just bad for the most part. :hmm:

jd091
08-14-2011, 07:28 AM
Goddamnit!! You're making me check out that Emmure album:eek:

JD as much as I love you, the Emmure album only has like.... 3 listenable songs at best. Really, it's too long and it's just bad for the most part. :hmm:

:lol: I really don't expect many people (if any) to like it. I was really surprised at how I liked it. I think you need to be in a certain "mood" to really get it, if that makes any sense. I'm still 100% behind everyone having an open mind, if that's even possible with Emmure, and giving it a chance.

With Emmure's other albums, I would agree that they're too long and bad. But this one has just enough songs to keep me hooked the whole way through. And again, just to reiterate, by no means is it my "favorite" deathcore record, or even a band I really love. It has its positive aspects that I feel well represent a side of deathcore that is important, and can be good when given a chance.

Wow, I felt weird typing that. :lol:

jd091
08-14-2011, 07:29 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BVLMu74S0vA/Tg4QexXYc_I/AAAAAAAAAbU/vHmrdFlpnoY/s1600/1309544406284.gif

:eek: THAT IS WAY TO GODDAMN CUTE

treghet
08-14-2011, 06:31 PM
Wake Up is definitely a good song, but I tried not to mention it since it's the big single from this album and there are better songs on it.

I always hated that song. I thought the album had some good moments, but overall The Cleansing blows it away. Also, the production annoys the living fuck out of me.

300%_Density
08-14-2011, 08:33 PM
I like going back to this post the same way alot of people watch NASCAR or for some people who watch Cops.

I feel alot better for liking alot more of my guilty pleasures now. I was somewhat on board and could take alot of this. Emmure has crossed the line my friend. :cool:

jd091
08-15-2011, 05:33 AM
So I guess I revived a list-making trend, huh? Everybody's jumping on now! An I'd just like to thank you all in advance right now; this list has more comments than Mank's melodeath thread, and it's only a matter of time until it has more views, PROVING without a shadow of a doubt that DEATHCORE is a more legitimate and overall better genre than MELODEATH!

I always hated that song. I thought the album had some good moments, but overall The Cleansing blows it away. Also, the production annoys the living fuck out of me.

Hmm. I obviously disagree, but to each his own. Ironically, the production was my favorite part, as I said.


I like going back to this post the same way alot of people watch NASCAR or for some people who watch Cops.

I feel alot better for liking alot more of my guilty pleasures now. I was somewhat on board and could take alot of this. Emmure has crossed the line my friend. :cool:

:lol: I like the NASCAR comparison. I don't think I'll get anybody here to like Emmure, will I? It was worth a shot. ;) I'd say the worst is out of the way (well... Other than a certain album that you all know is gonna show up). Stay tuned, and keep the views/comments up so this thread is indefinitely more popular than the others, primarily Loganarchy's stoopid Nu-metal one!

AnataFan4Life
08-15-2011, 06:00 AM
So when will you post the next br00tal album? :dorky:

larvtard
08-15-2011, 06:07 AM
and keep the views/comments up so this thread is indefinitely more popular than the others, primarily Loganarchy's stoopid Nu-metal one!

dude, this thread has 2,000 more views than mine; I don't think you have anything to worry about.

jd091
08-15-2011, 06:14 AM
So when will you post the next br00tal album? :dorky:

Hmm, if I have a long lull in the work day I might post it after lunch/this afternoon. If not, when I get home.

jd091
08-15-2011, 10:42 AM
6.) THE DEAD WALK

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/the-acacia-strain-the-dead-walk-album-art-cover-55892.jpeg

Ah, so here we are with the Acacia Strain. First of all, how badass is that album cover? :bowdown:

Although they had been releasing albums since 2002, one of the first deathcore bands in existence, 2006's The Dead Walk was the first truly great album the Acacia Strain put out, and still stands out as one of their best. Not only is this album consistently headbang-worthy and chaulk-full of killer riffs, but it was incredibly important in shaping the entire genre of deathcore. It's fair to say that we wouldn't have Whitechapel, Winds of Plague or Suicide Silence in the same way we have them now without Acacia.

Right from the first crushing breakdown opening riff of "Burn Face", you can tell one thing: this band is pissed off beyond all regard, and transferring that energy directly into their music. They're not doing it to have fun, or prove a point, or show off their technical ability or songwriting. They're doing it as an outlet for their pent up hate, anger, and violence, encouraging the listener to partake in expending that energy as well. It's especially evident if you see Acacia live: Vincent calmly tells the crowd, "This is negative music. This isn't meant to make you feel good. This is is meant for violence. This is meant for hate."

The Acacia Strain are also one of the best deathcore bands out there because they are masters of the -core side of it. Basically, they're just a hardcore band, but the heaviest hardcore band out there, to a point where it crosses over into deathcore. You'll be hard pressed to find those fast, death metal inspired parts with tremelo picking, sweeps, and blast beats. What you got here is just very beatdown-worthy hardcore, with enough well-crafted breakdowns to put most other -core bands to shame. It's very prevalent in Vincent's voice, also. It's more of a hardcore scream versus a gutteral low (a la Phil Bozeman) or a demonic high (a la Mitch Lucker). Wheras for the most part, your traditional hardcore is the epitome of positivity in music, the Acacia Strain is the epitome of negativity, yet they manage to pull it off tastefully and believably to the point where it isn't just some kids trying to act metal, but some guys who legitimately have problems with our society, culture, and species.

"BEAUTIFUL DAY/YOU WOULD HARDLY NOTICE ALL THE DISEASE" kicks off the brutal "Angry Mob Justice", an anthemic tune calling for the death of mankind, blending riff into riff into a massive breakdown at the end in perfect deathcore songwriting perfection. "Everyone will suffer" is the lyrical theme of "Woah! Shut it Down", a negative masterpiece in the same vein. "See You Next Tuesday" is the highlight of the album, and a live staple, focusing on throwing up a giant middle finger to... slutty women? Your enemies? Pretty much everyone. And that's why I love Acacia. The songs are catchy, the lyrics are brutal, and above all, an air of negativity pervades which makes it the perfect "mood" music when the energy needs pumpin'.

(Notable Tracks note: I'm not finding any good YouTube links to their songs, but I'd highly recommend the 3 tracks I pointed out above: "See You Next Tuesday", "Woah! Shut it Down", and "Angry Mob Justice").

mankvill
08-15-2011, 10:46 AM
> A<

DethMaiden
08-15-2011, 11:03 AM
Probably the best straight-up deathcore band. That being said, I own none of their records and probably never will.

If you put The Red Chord in this list I'm going to be happy because you recognize them and pissed because they aren't deathcore proper. ;)

jd091
08-15-2011, 11:10 AM
> A<

Fuck the what


If you put The Red Chord in this list I'm going to be happy because you recognize them and pissed because they aren't deathcore proper. ;)

I won't confirm or deny anything.

idrinkwine732
08-15-2011, 12:31 PM
> A<

<l;'va3>

masterguy49
08-15-2011, 03:33 PM
I'M SO SICK OF THESE FIGHTS

SO SICK OF YOUR MOUTHHH

jd091
08-15-2011, 03:43 PM
I'M SO SICK OF THESE FIGHTS

SO SICK OF YOUR MOUTHHH

Yeeeeah, you know what's up. :cool:

larvtard
08-15-2011, 04:50 PM
When I was first getting into metal like 3-4 years ago, I downloaded this album and I thought it was really good. Then I re-listened a year or so later, and realized my tastes had matured :cool:

jd091
08-15-2011, 04:56 PM
When I was first getting into metal like 3-4 years ago, I downloaded this album and I thought it was really good. Then I re-listened a year or so later, and realized my tastes had matured :cool:

Just wait. In a year or two, you're gonna give it another chance, and when you do, you'll like it again. Musical tastes tend to come around in cycles, I'd say.

BloodoftheKings
08-15-2011, 04:59 PM
It's frustrating me how this and logan's thread are mostly bitching with very little listing. When another album is actually posted I can't even see the damn thing cause it's caught somewhere in the middle of all the stupid discussion. Serioulsy:
this thread: 15 pages, 5 albums listed
logan's thread: 6 pages, 1 album listed

jd091
08-15-2011, 05:06 PM
It's frustrating me how this and logan's thread are mostly bitching with very little listing. When another album is actually posted I can't even see the damn thing cause it's caught somewhere in the middle of all the stupid discussion. Serioulsy:
this thread: 15 pages, 5 albums listed
logan's thread: 6 pages, 1 album listed

I'd say most people here want to read the reactions of the users rather than actually read my list. :lol: But yeah, just an unavoidable problem. I'll list them all so far on the front page w/links to their respective pages, if you want, so you don't have to wade through the crap.

masterguy49
08-15-2011, 05:10 PM
Yeeeeah, you know what's up. :cool:

I HAVE GIVE UP ON YOU

jd091
08-15-2011, 05:25 PM
I HAVE GIVE UP ON YOU

Hey now, who the fuck do you think you are?

jd091
08-16-2011, 04:49 AM
Just noticed that this thread is now rated 2 stars instead of 1!

http://www.fistpumpsfromlastnight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/tiger_fist.jpg

jd091
08-16-2011, 09:53 AM
Hey guys, triple bump here. But important info:

I have added a list/set of links on page 1, post 1 so you can easily jump to where the selections are at/see the list so far, since this thread is getting long and not everyone wants to read it. Though you should, since it's funny.

And I'm prepping numba 5. None of you will ever guess it. Seriously.

llama lom
08-16-2011, 10:37 AM
Rings of Saturn?
:D

treghet
08-16-2011, 10:51 AM
Rings of Saturn?
:D

Oh god. I think that might be on par with Emmure. :lol:

jd091
08-16-2011, 10:57 AM
Rings of Saturn?
:D

I won't confirm or deny anything. ;)

jd091
08-16-2011, 11:20 AM
5.) EXOPLANET

http://www.rocksins.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/The-Contortionist-Exoplanet-2010.jpg

This band is absolutely incredible, and they are the future of deathcore. One of my favorite releases in the past couple years, Exoplanet is an album I think every metal fan should at least give a chance.

First of all, how do you classify The Contortionist based on this album? It's a little tricky: they display a lot of progressive elements, a lot of soft singing, a lot of djenty riffs, a lot of atmospheric tones, yet maintain breakdowns througout. It's an interesting mix of deathcore, unlike any band out there, but deathcore nonetheless. And it's definitely not Sumeriancore, due primarily to the differences in their breakdowns: they're slower, and more akin to the traditional deathcore scene, rather than fast and Meshuggah-inspired.

But despite those breakdowns, this album displays an incredible range of emotions just not prevelant in any other deathcore release. Take my favorite song from it, "Flourish": from 2:25 until about 4:50, you have a very heartfeldt build up, starting with clean, atmospheric tones into a simple-yet-catchy and deep solo, culminating into a wall of sound that engulf the listener and immerses you, not unlike most prog metal. When the Contortionist get soft, and they do clean vocals (which are fantastic- think of it as The Faceless' cleans on steroids), they display their true talent. The opening of the song "Contact" is very similar, another gem from the album. I highly, HIGHLY recommend for everyone to give "Contact" and "Flourish" a listen. This just might be the deathcore you can deal with if you hate the traditional stereotypes.

When they get heavy, though, it's also great. Most breakdowns are more than single-note chugfests, incorporating odd time signatures and catchy riffs. The single note-chugfests are there, though, and that tends to be what turns off most "troo" metal listeners from loving them. They're first album was standard deathcore, and with Exoplanet, they evolved exponentially into their own niche of the genre. I feel that it's only a matter of time until they evolve completely from deathcore, ditching all of their breakdowns for a more prog/sumeriancore feel, which I would welcome with open arms.

Until then, this album stands out as the bastard cousin of deathcore that's trying to actually move the genre somewhere. Screw Acacia, Whitechapel, and Suicide Silence- the Contortionist don't conform to deathcore standards. It's evolving the genre into a different beast entirely, and only time will tell what fascinating new music we'll get from this band and their contemporaries, and even if we can call the genre "deathcore" still 5 years from now. My prediction is a resounding "no"... but we'll get something incredible in its place.


Notable Tracks (4 here, but they're so good I recommend giving each a try):
Contact (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqGqrJbJ_s)
Flourish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nov3l4lgShM)
Vessel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE5bzFK6nTc)
Primal Directive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvPnewykSU4)

makethemsuffer12
08-16-2011, 12:10 PM
Hmm, they're opening for Periphery in October. I should probably give them a listen.

mankvill
08-16-2011, 12:18 PM
>O<

300%_Density
08-16-2011, 12:30 PM
Did I just see the phrase "future & deathcore " in the same sentence. Someone make my eyes stop burning.

jd091
08-16-2011, 12:49 PM
Hmm, they're opening for Periphery in October. I should probably give them a listen.

Yeah, I might skip class to try and catch that show. All the bands are great on it.

>O<

Now you're just making shit up.

Did I just see the phrase "future & deathcore " in the same sentence. Someone make my eyes stop burning.

Every genre has a "future", man, I don't see why you're getting your panties in a bunch. :lol:

larvtard
08-16-2011, 07:49 PM
Ehh, they're okay. Not gay like Whitechapel or those sorta bands, but still gay in their own way :tongue: They're just not really my bag

MPF
08-16-2011, 08:06 PM
Lulz, you said The Contortionist is Deathcore.

The Contortionist is like 25% Deathcore, 75% Progressive Metal.

jd091
08-16-2011, 08:09 PM
Lulz, you said The Contortionist is Deathcore.

The Contortionist is like 25% Deathcore, 75% Progressive Metal.

Given them a spin at all lately? I think you forget how many breakdowns are in there. Still deathcore.

...and you haven't actually admitted to liking a band on this list yet, especially with that elusive wording there. ;)

OraclesofAgony
08-16-2011, 08:12 PM
At least you finally posted an album that doesn't make me want to gouge my eyes out. I've tried listening to them before though and couldn't get into it.

MPF
08-16-2011, 08:13 PM
Given them a spin at all lately? I think you forget how many breakdowns are in there. Still deathcore.

...and you haven't actually admitted to liking a band on this list yet, especially with that elusive wording there. ;)

The Contortionist (Along with All Shall Perish) are the only bands I like that people can use the term Deathcore on me, and I will still love.

I actually just spinned this about an hour ago because I'm picking out a song for my next radio show and I want them on there. I'll probably play Flourish since that song is what got me into the band.

Early Contortionist, absolutely shitty Deathcore, Exoplanet, Progressive Metal with some Deathcore.

larvtard
08-16-2011, 08:32 PM
spinned

wat

jd091
08-16-2011, 08:39 PM
wat

We're not cool corporate sell out radio bros, it's vocabulary we won't understand. :eyes:

MPF
08-16-2011, 09:11 PM
How young are you kids? Damn I feel like such an elder here.

Spinned = Spin a record.

A record was a piece of circle, sharpened vinyl carved to create musical sound of different musical combinations for audio use.




Since I play the songs I want to, I'm not a sell out. I only play requests, 1-2 max per show and even then I only pick teh good requests.

DethMaiden
08-16-2011, 09:14 PM
Spinned = Spin a record.


Or, you know, an actual word like spun.

illuminatus917
08-16-2011, 09:15 PM
A record was a piece of circle, sharpened vinyl carved to create musical sound of different musical combinations for audio use.


The really good bands still release their albums on vinyl.

MPF
08-16-2011, 09:17 PM
The really good bands still release their albums on vinyl.

Do THEY know that?

*refering to the two above*




All jokes aside I do have a record player at my house, but I have no clue if it works. I should get some old vinyl just to even see if it works.

Nick_to_the_face
08-17-2011, 12:25 AM
6.) THE DEAD WALK

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/the-acacia-strain-the-dead-walk-album-art-cover-55892.jpeg




:bowdown::bowdown:

I'M SO SICK OF THESE FIGHTS

SO SICK OF YOUR MOUTHHH

I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, AND I SEE WHERE YOU SLEEP.

5.) EXOPLANET

http://www.rocksins.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/The-Contortionist-Exoplanet-2010.jpg

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:party::party::party:

jd091
08-17-2011, 04:43 AM
Do THEY know that?

*refering to the two above*




All jokes aside I do have a record player at my house, but I have no clue if it works. I should get some old vinyl just to even see if it works.

Well of course I know that. Logan on the other hand... ;) I'd actually love to get into vinyl collecting someday, but that's a lot of money I don't really have to blow right now. Reckless records in Chicago have an amazing selection of vinyl, but at over $20 a pop, I'd run out my bank account real quick. :lol:

jd091
08-17-2011, 04:44 AM
:bowdown::bowdown:



I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, AND I SEE WHERE YOU SLEEP.



:party::party::party:

Awww yeah. Someone who agrees with me. :fist:


QUICK RATE THIS THREAD 5 STARS SO WE CAN BOOST THE APPEAL OF IT

larvtard
08-17-2011, 08:14 AM
Or, you know, an actual word like spun.

:lol: Thanks, I don't think he got what I was trying to say at all.

jd091
08-17-2011, 08:20 AM
:lol: Thanks, I don't think he got what I was trying to say at all.

Oh, I forgot I was dealing with the

http://files.sharenator.com/grammar_nazi_RE_the_womans_role-s369x540-56390.jpg

jd091
08-17-2011, 10:48 AM
#4 is on its way. I legitimately think everyone here can agree that this next choice is awesome.

treghet
08-17-2011, 10:49 AM
#4 is on its way. I legitimately think everyone here can agree that this next choice is awesome.

Even mankvill??

Nick_to_the_face
08-17-2011, 11:12 AM
Even mankvill??

that will be the day :lol:
Holy shit I'm curious

jd091
08-17-2011, 11:28 AM
4.) FUSED TOGETHER IN REVOLVING DOORS

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wDfmrraLJe8/STyiV-M9yDI/AAAAAAAAAIE/q64eIz7MoUE/s320/the_red_chord_-_fused_together_in_revolving_doors.jpg

Here it is, ladies and gentlemen. The album that started it all: 2002's Fused Together. In my opinion, at least. The Red Chord's biggest problem (and only problem, really) is that they're very difficult to classify. This album doesn't tend to sound like contemporary deathcore, but it is deathcore, and an extremely important (and awesome) release that everyone should know about.

What is it? Grindocre? Death metal? Metalcore? Deathcore? Jazz-core? This album is incredibly diverse, and showcases all of those elements. But at the time it came out, it featured groove and breakdowns in a certain way unlike the other contemporary metalcore releases at the time, laying the foundations for what we know today as deathcore. First of all, it's fast and frantic, showcasing heavy death metal influence, moreso than the metalcore bands of the time. Yet it also features many grooved sections (which lead to it being called deathgrind usually). But look closer, and you'll see those heavy, slow breakdowns appearing that have now come to define the genre.

"LOLOLOL, but metalcore had those breakdownz at the time, too!" Yeah, but did metalcore have those blistering fast and frantic death metal riffs? Did metalcore have those guttural lows and shrieking highs? You can't help but to realize this album help lay the early foundations for deathcore, even if it sounds vastly different from the popular 2007 and 2008 deathcore prime.

Look no further than the opening of the best song on this album, "Dreaming in Dog Years", a frantic, crazy, spastic live pile-on anthem of unparalleled awesomeness. After the first few spastic, almost mathcore-like riffs, we have a heavy-as-fuck breakdown that's one of my favorites of all deathcore. From a series of more spastic riffs, it culminates in an epic, anthemic build up, screaming out, "IT'S NOT GONNA BE ALRIIIIIIIIIIIGHT! IT'S NOT GONNA BE OKAAAAAAAAAAAY!", deathcore's first scream-the-lyrics-to-a-breakdown passage. And it's fucking awesome.

Other awesome tracks which also highlight the deathcore aspects of the record include "Nihilist", "Like a Train Through a Pidgeon", and "Jar Full of Bunny Parts", the last of which is probably the most -core song here. If you have any doubts this album is deathcore, listen to that. Some other songs on the album are pure grindcore spasticism, going at 100 miles per hour and never letting up. Some are almost worthy of being in Dillinger Escape Plan's repertoire. But all of them add up to an incredible, and extremely influential record, which still holds up in being one of the best in the genre.

Notable Tracks:
Dreaming in Dog Years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4P96ARjrP8)
Nihilist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aocz0p5DSmo)
Jar Full of Bunny Parts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDhpqcmwKHs)

treghet
08-17-2011, 11:32 AM
Great album. And "Dreaming in Dog Years" live is incredible. :rocker:

mastodon421
08-17-2011, 11:37 AM
I love The Red Chord, but I can honestly say that Fused Together In Revolving Doors is my least favorite record by them. The production is pretty bad and there are a few songs that really do nothing for me. That being said, Dreaming In Dog Years is one of my favorite songs by them.

larvtard
08-17-2011, 11:42 AM
sounds more like technical deathgrind ala Cephalic Carnage, but it does sorta resemble deathcore, yeah.

EDIT: but it's good.

AnataFan4Life
08-17-2011, 11:50 AM
My review so far...

The Red Chord and The Contortionist are the best ones so far. Both of those are examples of the good side of deathcore. The Winds of Plague album is solid too. The rest of them I couldn't get into at all (especially number 10 :barf:)

jd091
08-17-2011, 12:22 PM
My review so far...

The Red Chord and The Contortionist are the best ones so far. Both of those are examples of the good side of deathcore. The Winds of Plague album is solid too. The rest of them I couldn't get into at all (especially number 10 :barf:)

:lol: Glad to see you're liking some of them! I like all the different sides of deathcore, as you can see. The list obviously reflects that.

DethMaiden
08-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Great record, but...

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The Red Chord's biggest problem (and only problem, really) is that they're very difficult to classify.
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...incredibly stupid sentence. Really? This is a problem? You want to be able to pin them down more easily?

jd091
08-17-2011, 12:46 PM
Great record, but...



...incredibly stupid sentence. Really? This is a problem? You want to be able to pin them down more easily?

Problem with my list, because there are lots of people who don't consider them deathcore. You view it as a positive asset rather than a detriment, woo hoo. Have a cookie.

DethMaiden
08-17-2011, 12:48 PM
Problem with the list. There you go. Much better. ;)


Seriously though, The Red Chord are an incredible band with no bad albums, but I'd take both Clients and Prey for Eyes over this one. That being said, fuckin' Dreaming in Dog Years, dude! :rocker: :rocker: FUCK!

jd091
08-17-2011, 12:55 PM
Problem with the list. There you go. Much better. ;)


Seriously though, The Red Chord are an incredible band with no bad albums, but I'd take both Clients and Prey for Eyes over this one. That being said, fuckin' Dreaming in Dog Years, dude! :rocker: :rocker: FUCK!

Both of those are awesome albums as well, but kind of took a departure from deathcore for a more traditional deathgrind approach in my opinion.

mankvill
08-17-2011, 12:57 PM
if this list has Emmure but not Bring Me The Horizon, you are just the worst hypocrite

jd091
08-17-2011, 01:05 PM
if this list has Emmure but not Bring Me The Horizon, you are just the worst hypocrite

Well, I do got 3 albums left... predictions? ;)

larvtard
08-17-2011, 01:10 PM
Well, I do got 3 albums left... predictions? ;)

I do got.... that's a new one.

moobys37
08-17-2011, 01:11 PM
Well, I do got 3 albums left... predictions? ;)

I won't like any of them :lol: The Red Chord's very hit or miss for me. I really liked Prey For Eyes but Dreaming in Dog Years doesn't do much for me.

jd091
08-17-2011, 01:36 PM
I do got.... that's a new one.

I DUN GOT 3 LEFT MOTHERFUCKER

mankvill
08-17-2011, 01:45 PM
Your last three will probably be two faggy Whitechapel albums and an All Shall Perish album

or 1 whitechapel, 1 all shall perish and 1 job for a cowboy

ShatteredFlame
08-17-2011, 02:02 PM
Actually I know a bunch of grindcore fans who claim that The Red Chord should have broken up after that album because everything after sucked.

treghet
08-17-2011, 02:09 PM
or 1 whitechapel, 1 all shall perish and 1 job for a cowboy

Probably.

Doom EP, The Somatic Defilement, The Price of Existence.

Nick_to_the_face
08-17-2011, 06:42 PM
4.) FUSED TOGETHER IN REVOLVING DOORS

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wDfmrraLJe8/STyiV-M9yDI/AAAAAAAAAIE/q64eIz7MoUE/s320/the_red_chord_-_fused_together_in_revolving_doors.jpg



Hmmm...I've never cared for these guys, BUT, I will give this album a chance. I've already heard a couple of songs off of it so far and it isn't too bad so far...
Anywho I really wanna know what the next 3 are

jd091
08-18-2011, 10:35 AM
Hmmm...I've never cared for these guys, BUT, I will give this album a chance. I've already heard a couple of songs off of it so far and it isn't too bad so far...
Anywho I really wanna know what the next 3 are

Definitely check it out!

Damn, I gotta write #3 real quick in between matches of the DOTA 2 International tournament! I'm following this closer than I would march madness! :dorky:

I think y'all gonna like #3, also.

smearCampaign
08-18-2011, 10:58 AM
Damn, I gotta write #3 real quick in between matches of the DOTA 2 International tournament! I'm following this closer than I would march madness! :dorky:

These Brit or Aussie accents on the commentators are brutal. I can't understand half of what they're saying. Doesn't help that I'm not really up to speed on all the terminology in DOTA.

Back on topic; I actually really enjoyed The Red Chord's Fed Through The Teeth Machine from 2009 as well.

jd091
08-18-2011, 11:01 AM
FUCK.

I had #3 all typed out, all epic and whatnot, and my browser crashed. Goddamn. Lost everything. Well, here we go again. You fuckers better appreciate this.

larvtard
08-18-2011, 11:03 AM
FUCK.

I had #3 all typed out, all epic and whatnot, and my browser crashed. Goddamn. Lost everything. Well, here we go again. You fuckers better appreciate this.

happens to me all the time. Do it in Word/Notepad first, then paste it over.

jd091
08-18-2011, 11:29 AM
3.) THE PRICE OF EXISTENCE

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__5d7eXyV_hE/S_-AikKIepI/AAAAAAAAAtA/77p5kJg-nto/s400/06_the_price_of_existence.jpg

I think you all knew this was gonna be here, but if you didn't know, take notes. This album is fucking incredible. From the blistering opening riff of "Eradication" to the almost serene ending of "The Last Relapse", there is not one bad or mediocre song on this album. This right here is the deathcore for metalheads album.

First of all, their style of deathcore is unique. You can tell that the guys in this band are musicians, and create music for musicians first of all, rather than focusing on being brootal or moshworthy. The riffs aren't far cries from tech death or melodeath bands, and the breakdowns are all very tastefully done. They have the perfect technical/brootal ratio, which is pure musical porn to me.

The thing is, its hard for me to say, "listen to this song or that song", since this album is bursting at the seams with incredible material. "Wage Slaves", "The Day of Justice", "There is No Business to be Done on a Dead Planet", "Better Living Through Catastrophe", "We Hold These Truths...", The True Beast"- the list keeps going. I think that's the primary reason why this album vaults above the other deathcore bands out there to earn a top 3 spot in my list: its an amazing album, front to back, that never bores me. Not many bands acieve that in my mind.

Take "There is No Business to be Done on a Dead Planet": it displays all the amazing elements of All Shall Perish in a single package. Opening with a blistering, technical, must-headbang-NOW riff, it builds up the song perfectly in true death metal fashion at 100 miles an hour up until 1:20, where the song absolutely comes crashing down in an amazingly well written breakdown. One of those good galloping, triplet-based breakdowns, too. But it doesn't let up there- they build upon the breakdown every couple measures, adding a technical twist here, a weedly guitar solo there, and before you know it, the riff is swirling back and forth through your head in an excellent display of musicianship. That is how you write a sick breakdown in deathcore.

Other hits include songs like "The True Beast", opening with a very, very metal riff and rather funny pig squeal, into probably the heaviest song of the album. The transitions between technical fast part -> breakdown/groovy riff are flawless, and almost undetectable unless you're listening for them. It always fits perfectly, and the riffs never feel recycled or old. "We Hold These Truths" opens with a great technical guitar part, and builds into a breakdown also that doesn't feel forced or out of place. It's rather melodic, too. "Better Living Through Catastrophe" is a beautifully somber song at the beginning and end, showing off the more melodic and musical sides of deathcore. The solos and riffs are, again, amazing in this one. And don't even get me started on how perfect the opening riff to "Wage Slaves" is... :drool:

In the end, this is a deathcore album for metalheads. It's perfectly written, even though the solos could be a little better executed/more technical. The riffs make this album awesome, and they never get old. I love it. It totally deserves a top 3 spot in any deathcore list, ever, and in case you didn't get the message by now:

LISTEN TO THIS GODDAMN ALBUM!

Notable Tracks:
There Is No Business To Be Done on a Dead Planet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C70gaKd72XY)
The True Beast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw-z1s6eD34)
Better Living Through Catastrophe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJqKFybo7I)
We Hold These Truths... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqD_e0hzGek)

larvtard
08-18-2011, 11:34 AM
3.) THE PRICE OF EXISTENCE

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__5d7eXyV_hE/S_-AikKIepI/AAAAAAAAAtA/77p5kJg-nto/s400/06_the_price_of_existence.jpg

I think you all knew this was gonna be here, but if you didn't know, take notes. This album is fucking incredible. From the blistering opening riff of "Eradication" to the almost serene ending of "The Last Relapse", there is not one bad or mediocre song on this album. This right here is the deathcore for metalheads album.

First of all, their style of deathcore is unique. You can tell that the guys in this band are musicians, and create music for musicians first of all, rather than focusing on being brootal or moshworthy. The riffs aren't far cries from tech death or melodeath bands, and the breakdowns are all very tastefully done. They have the perfect technical/brootal ratio, which is pure musical porn to me.

The thing is, its hard for me to say, "listen to this song or that song", since this album is bursting at the seams with incredible material. "Wage Slaves", "The Day of Justice", "There is No Business to be Done on a Dead Planet", "Better Living Through Catastrophe", "We Hold These Truths...", The True Beast"- the list keeps going. I think that's the primary reason why this album vaults above the other deathcore bands out there to earn a top 3 spot in my list: its an amazing album, front to back, that never bores me. Not many bands acieve that in my mind.

Take "There is No Business to be Done on a Dead Planet": it displays all the amazing elements of All Shall Perish in a single package. Opening with a blistering, technical, must-headbang-NOW riff, it builds up the song perfectly in true death metal fashion at 100 miles an hour up until 1:20, where the song absolutely comes crashing down in an amazingly well written breakdown. One of those good galloping, triplet-based breakdowns, too. But it doesn't let up there- they build upon the breakdown every couple measures, adding a technical twist here, a weedly guitar solo there, and before you know it, the riff is swirling back and forth through your head in an excellent display of musicianship. That is how you write a sick breakdown in deathcore.

Other hits include songs like "The True Beast", opening with a very, very metal riff and rather funny pig squeal, into probably the heaviest song of the album. The transitions between technical fast part -> breakdown/groovy riff are flawless, and almost undetectable unless you're listening for them. It always fits perfectly, and the riffs never feel recycled or old. "We Hold These Truths" opens with a great technical guitar part, and builds into a breakdown also that doesn't feel forced or out of place. It's rather melodic, too. "Better Living Through Catastrophe" is a beautifully somber song at the beginning and end, showing off the more melodic and musical sides of deathcore. The solos and riffs are, again, amazing in this one. And don't even get me started on how perfect the opening riff to "Wage Slaves" is... :drool:

In the end, this is a deathcore album for metalheads. It's perfectly written, even though the solos could be a little better executed/more technical. The riffs make this album awesome, and they never get old. I love it. It totally deserves a top 3 spot in any deathcore list, ever, and in case you didn't get the message by now:

LISTEN TO THIS GODDAMN ALBUM!

Notable Tracks:
There Is No Business To Be Done on a Dead Planet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C70gaKd72XY)
The True Beast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw-z1s6eD34)
Better Living Through Catastrophe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJqKFybo7I)
We Hold These Truths... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqD_e0hzGek)

Hey...that "Business" song was pretty good. I'm streaming on Spotify now :rocker:

AnataFan4Life
08-18-2011, 11:41 AM
Well that brings me up to four albums i like on this list so far.

jd091
08-18-2011, 12:08 PM
Hey...that "Business" song was pretty good. I'm streaming on Spotify now :rocker:

Call me a Jesuit. I be covertin'.

treghet
08-18-2011, 12:19 PM
Now THAT is a great deathcore album. :horns:

larvtard
08-18-2011, 12:32 PM
Call me a Jesuit. I be covertin'.

YOU'LL NEVER CHANGE WHO I AM

makethemsuffer12
08-18-2011, 12:53 PM
I DETEST THIS LIFE!

(squeelie)

mastodon421
08-18-2011, 02:58 PM
Good record. All Shall Perish got a lot better when they picked up Eddie as a vocalist. I will say I don't like this album as much as the last two due to the excessive pig squealing.

Nick_to_the_face
08-18-2011, 09:21 PM
:party::party::party::party:

jd091
08-19-2011, 08:48 AM
Glad to see all the well-deserved love for All Shall Perish! And they were awesome live in my opinion. Much stagediving was done during "No Business", "Wage Slaves", and "Eradication". :horns:

Currently drafting the grand #2... you will either love or hate this with a passion. :eyes:

AnataFan4Life
08-19-2011, 08:53 AM
Currently drafting the grand #2... you will either love or hate this with a passion. :eyes:

My guess is either Whitechapel or Job for a Cowboy

jd091
08-19-2011, 11:12 AM
2.) THE SOMATIC DEFILEMENT

http://www.mp3boo.com/cover-album/14382.jpg

It's 2007. I've just read an article in Guitar World on this new style of extreme metal called "deathcore". I've just downloaded Whitechapel's The Somatic Defilement, and I've loaded it onto my iPod, hiding in my room to listen to it where my parents can't find me. I hop into a song in the middle of the album...

She cried out helplessly again
I ripped her limb from fucking limb
just one less slut to walk this fucking earth

I will spit right in your fucking face
how does it taste?
After the lips are sealed below your waist
you will never fuck again.


YES. YES. YES. This was what I was waiting for. It was unlike any music I had heard at the time. Metallica was boring me out, I had listened to every riff on Leviathan a thousand times over, Trivium's singing was weak, and Slipknot was never this heavy, brutal, or disgustingly metal in their lyrics. When you say the word "Deathcore", I think of this album. It is the seminal deathcore record, the one they should have a picture of when you look it up in the dictionary. If someone asked me, "what is deathcore?", I would hand them this album. Whether you love it or you hate it, The Somatic Defilement is the purest, most refined, concise example of what deathcore is. Although bands had been playing with the musical themes of deathcore for a while, it wasn't until this album came out that we could point a finger, make a definition, and classify deathcore for what it is (in my opinion). It popularized it unlike any album had in the past.

TSD is very, very much rooted essentially in the "death" part of deathcore. It's pretty much a very, very heavy brutal death metal album that they threw breakdowns into. For me, I absolutely love the breakdowns here. They're the best Whitechapel ever wrote. And most importantly, it is the most copied style of breakdown in the genre. There are way too many Whitechapel clones out there to count, but there is only 1 Whitechapel. The riffs... the riffs... I can't laud them enough. I absolutely love 'em. Even the breakdowns. They’re just good.

What makes this really stand out to me to be amazing rather than just good or solid are the vocals and the lyrics. Phil Bozeman is an absolute beast. He has the best lows in all of deathcore, and some of the best lows out of any metal band. They go over the top, vocally, which Whitechapel doesn't do on later releases. Just listen to the beginning of "The Somatic Defilement" for a good example: after a short build up, the instruments cut out, and we just hear Phil's guttural low scream for a solid 8 seconds. It's fucking brutal in my opinion. There's plenty of other instances where he holds those low screams for 5+ seconds. Hell, at 1:20 of "Devirgination Studies", he holds a low for a whopping 10 seconds. I love it.

And lyrically. Oh god. The lyrics. I fucking love them. The best deathcore lyrics out there, bar none. "Whitechapel" is actually the neighborhood in London where Jack the Ripper's victims were found, and this is pretty much a concept album about Jack the Ripper. Almost every song is about:


Killing prostitutes.
Eviscerating them, either alive or dead.
Fucking them, either alive or dead.
Sexually mutilating their corpses/tortured bodies.
Masturbating to their corpses/tortured bodies.
More torture, death, etc.


And its well written, too. That's something I really didn't like with Whitechapel's later releases: they reverted to the usual, predictable death, demons, hell, destruction, war type lyrics. They had something unique and awesome on this album, and I still love it to this day. I realize only about 10% will respect or like this album, but I can't recommend it enough. It's one of the best and most important deathcore records of all time. I had a tough time deciding between this and #1, so realize it was very, very close. Check it out! :snivel:

Notable Tracks (with lyrics):
The Somatic Defilement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2UUqOddGS4)
Vicer Exciser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3sm3sq0SkY)
Prostatic Fluid Asphyxiation (aka, death by cum!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knLRZw80PuI)
Fairy Fay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvfC81y43d4)


Whole album lyrics:
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/whitechapel/thesomaticdefilement.html#1

OraclesofAgony
08-19-2011, 11:21 AM
:zzz:

masterguy49
08-19-2011, 11:29 AM
LOOK IN THESE EYES AND ENDURE THE SLEEP YOU NEED BEFORE.. YOU... AWAKE...

TO NOTHING....




FUCKED AND LEFT FOR DEAD

AnataFan4Life
08-19-2011, 11:33 AM
Not bad. They're nowhere near being one of my favorite bands, but as far as deathcore is concerned, there's far worse bands than Whitechapel, and a few of them are on this list :D

jd091
08-19-2011, 11:56 AM
LOOK IN THESE EYES AND ENDURE THE SLEEP YOU NEED BEFORE.. YOU... AWAKE...

TO NOTHING....




FUCKED AND LEFT FOR DEAD

:fist: Great song live!

BloodoftheKings
08-19-2011, 02:18 PM
This choice is probably the best one so far. Sure the music is still god awful but those lyrics are hilariously bad.

I will spit right in your fucking face
how does it taste?

Coming from a huge Gwar fan, thats bad.

masterguy49
08-19-2011, 02:31 PM
This choice is probably the best one so far. Sure the music is still god awful but those lyrics are hilariously bad.

I will spit right in your fucking face
how does it taste?

Coming from a huge Gwar fan, thats bad.

Yeah they're bad, but fun as fuck to sing a long to.

jd091
08-19-2011, 02:32 PM
This choice is probably the best one so far. Sure the music is still god awesome but those lyrics are hilariously good.


Yeah, I concur. ;)

xStructualDefect
08-19-2011, 02:34 PM
I always liked This Is Exile a lot more than TSD to be honest. But I love Vicer Exciser, one of my favorite songs by them definitely. And prob the funnest song of theirs live since a huge circle pit forms every time they play this.

BloodoftheKings
08-19-2011, 02:36 PM
So I guess tomorrow your posting Job For A Cowboy's Doom because you already spoiled that it's on the list before.

jd091
08-19-2011, 02:37 PM
Yeah they're bad, but fun as fuck to sing a long to.

ANAL SEEPAGE FLOWING
I CAN'T REPRESS THE URGE
THY CORPROPHAGIST SHALL INGURGITATE THE FILTH!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq5ffv7u9R1ql5em4o1_400.jpg
(epic foot stomp :tongue:)

mastodon421
08-19-2011, 02:40 PM
Nothing special imo. I heard it after This Is Exile and it's just simply not as good.

jd091
08-19-2011, 02:41 PM
So I guess tomorrow your posting Job For A Cowboy's Doom because you already spoiled that it's on the list before.

I said that it was a very copied-off of album, and spawned a lot of clones.

But does that mean it's a good, let alone "top" deathcore album? Hmm. I wonder.

jd091
08-19-2011, 02:43 PM
Nothing special imo. I heard it after This Is Exile and it's just simply not as good.

Gotta disagree. I loved Exile, but it doesn't even come close to Somatic.

Addicted2metal
08-19-2011, 02:57 PM
am I the only one here who likes "A New Era of Corruption?"

xStructualDefect
08-19-2011, 02:59 PM
I enjoyed it but it's not amazing. I prefer the other 2 albums over it though.

jd091
08-19-2011, 03:08 PM
I enjoyed it but it's not amazing. I prefer the other 2 albums over it though.

Yep. This. New Era was really good, but it had some very boring moments. Most metalheads would probably like it more since they cut out most of the breakdowns, but ME GUSTA los breakdowns! :(

Phil's highs were fucking incredible on it though. Goddamn! :drool:

makethemsuffer12
08-19-2011, 03:23 PM
Yep. This. New Era was really good, but it had some very boring moments. Most metalheads would probably like it more since they cut out most of the breakdowns, but ME GUSTA los breakdowns! :(

Phil's highs were fucking incredible on it though. Goddamn! :drool:

Yup, pretty much. "Breeding Violence" still sucks, though.

xStructualDefect
08-19-2011, 03:41 PM
Yup, pretty much. "Breeding Violence" still sucks, though.

Agreed I never liked it. Devolver, Reprogrammed to Hate, and The Darkest Day of Man are all incredible songs IMO.

makethemsuffer12
08-19-2011, 03:44 PM
Agreed I never liked it. Devolver, Reprogrammed to Hate, and The Darkest Day of Man are all incredible songs IMO.

This. "Devolver" is awesome.

llama lom
08-19-2011, 04:06 PM
Yep. This. New Era was really good, but it had some very boring moments. Most metalheads would probably like it more since they cut out most of the breakdowns, but ME GUSTA los breakdowns! :(

Phil's highs were fucking incredible on it though. Goddamn! :drool:

New Era and TSD could have been done by completely different bands. That's how much they grown. I still think TSD is great, but I think it had a couple boring parts as well. Plus I think the breakdowns in New Era were done a bit more tastefully.

powerslave_85
08-19-2011, 07:53 PM
Well hey, I actually learned something from this thread: Whitechapel are a vile, abhorrent with some of the most horrifying lyrics I've ever read. And I don't mean horrifying in a good way.

jd091
08-19-2011, 09:06 PM
Well hey, I actually learned something from this thread: Whitechapel are a vile, abhorrent with some of the most horrifying lyrics I've ever read. And I don't mean horrifying in a good way.

Cool, they offend the troo metalheads. They're doing it correctly!

Inhaling fumes of the putrid festered funk
As I drain the throbbing cysts from the gangrenous vagina
The mordant reek is overtaking every inhalation
The nausea is overwhelming. I stop to heave.

:eyes: :rocker:

mankvill
08-19-2011, 09:17 PM
Cool, they offend the troo metalheads. They're doing it correctly!

Inhaling fumes of the putrid festered funk
As I drain the throbbing cysts from the gangrenous vagina
The mordant reek is overtaking every inhalation
The nausea is overwhelming. I stop to heave.

:eyes: :rocker:

a poor man's Devourment

Nick_to_the_face
08-20-2011, 11:26 AM
a poor man's Devourment

Now I am full, another idea
I must take shit on this fuckin' bitch
I let one fly onto her face
I then lean down and kiss this bitch

jd091
08-20-2011, 11:29 AM
Now I am full, another idea
I must take shit on this fuckin' bitch
I let one fly onto her face
I then lean down and kiss this bitch

:lol: Devourment is definitely like, twice as brutal as Whitechapel. But they aren't necessarily... poetic?

jd091
08-20-2011, 11:32 AM
Okay, gentlemen. I got one album left. I wanna hear predictions. I don't know how many people will actually expect this one...

Hint: it's not an EP.

AnataFan4Life
08-20-2011, 11:35 AM
Ah, so it's not Doom then, and I don't believe you consider any of their full lengths deathcore, so I guess that rules JFAC out.

masterguy49
08-20-2011, 11:42 AM
Wormwood by Acacia Strain?

Just a guess....

jd091
08-20-2011, 11:49 AM
Ah, so it's not Doom then, and I don't believe you consider any of their full lengths deathcore, so I guess that rules JFAC out.

Smart man. ;)

AnataFan4Life
08-20-2011, 11:52 AM
Is it a repeat?

Nick_to_the_face
08-20-2011, 11:54 AM
Smart man. ;)

:bouville:

300%_Density
08-20-2011, 11:54 AM
Now we are up to 3 stars in this thread now? What's happening to humanity?

makethemsuffer12
08-20-2011, 12:08 PM
Despised Icon? Idk brah.

This Is Where It Ends?

Nick_to_the_face
08-20-2011, 12:11 PM
Now we are up to 3 stars in this thread now? What's happening to humanity?

You're going to see (Hed) PE?? What's happening to humanity?!
;)

jd091
08-20-2011, 01:06 PM
So far we got:

-Acacia's "Wormwood"
-Despised Icon's "This is Where it Ends"

Any more? C'mon, gentlemen, let's be creative.

Addicted2metal
08-20-2011, 01:08 PM
Born of Osiris?

treghet
08-20-2011, 01:08 PM
So far we got:

-Acacia's "Wormwood"
-Despised Icon's "This is Where it Ends"

Any more? C'mon, gentlemen, let's be creative.

I said Doom EP a couple days ago. My other two guesses were correct.

EDIT: Wait, Despised Icon doesn't have an album titled This is Where it Ends. ;)

Addicted2metal
08-20-2011, 01:09 PM
Through the Eyes of the Dead?

Nick_to_the_face
08-20-2011, 01:17 PM
I have no idea...I really hope it's not another White Chapel album.

I GOT IT.

Black Crown :tongue:

jd091
08-20-2011, 01:19 PM
Born of Osiris?

Not deathcore. :tongue:

300%_Density
08-20-2011, 01:23 PM
You're going to see (Hed) PE?? What's happening to humanity?!
;)

Hey now!!! Them and Papa Roach were my first ever shows. I still mildly enjoy Hed PE albums. Not like I used to. Probably not going due to a surplus of October shows now. ;)