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jd091
05-21-2011, 01:19 AM
Tour: Stick Tight 2011
Bands: Terror, Stick to Your Guns, Trapped Under Ice, Close Your Eyes, Your Demise, Take Offense
Venue: The Bottom Lounge

So... this was my first real hardcore show. I didn't really know what to expect, but I sure as hell didn't expect the insanity that I got. If you pass up an opportunity to see Terror, you are truly missing out on an incredible show!

Here's my story:

I got to the Bottom Lounge around 5:45, 15 minutes after the doors opened and 15 minutes before the first band came on. My first impression was that there was maybe 20-30 people in the whole venue at the time. Secondly, that everyone knew everyone else. Hardcore is really like this whole family, very different from any other show I've seen. A new person would walk in, and everybody would be give them a high five and a hug, and they would join the group talking. I felt very aloof from the group, but it was interesting to just observe the interactions of the fans. Thirdly, I noticed that there weren't really "scene kids" or "metalheads"- just a bunch of, I guess you would call them "hardcore" guys. You guys know what I'm talking about. Most everyone had the straight edge x's on their hands, and the "under 21" band, even though they were obviously of age. And lastly... nobody was standing by the stage; rather, they were all huddled near the back and sides.

The first band, Take Offense, were pretty great, traditional hardcore. I was standing by the back and to the side, and the floor was just a mass of everyone hardcore dancing. Now in my past experience, I had only experienced "hardcore dancing" at metalcore and deathcore shows, with stupid kids doing it. This hardcore dancing was totally different; much more violent and expressive, with these older guys doing it, guys who have been involved in the Chicago scene for years and years by my estimation. And yet, oddly, it totally fit the groove of the music. It was really cool just to kind of stand back and watch these guys go at it- the "hardcore dance" was theirs, they were the generation and group that invented it. Kids nowadays just take it and bastardize it to shitty music. The whole "Keepers of the Faith" motto seemed to make more and more sense to me as I watched everyone; these were the true fans of hardcore, keeping it alive while all these new scenes popping up nowadays are bastardizing it.

Your Demise was pretty solid also; they kept trying to get people to come up to the front of the stage but it was still pretty much just a bunch of dancing and some people standing in the back. I need to check out more of their stuff too.

Finally, some more people started to come in for Close Your Eyes, and I decided it was safe enough to stand on the rail since a couple other people were doing it too. They got a pretty solid reaction from the crowd, and the singer was pretty intense and good. The guitarist looked like he was 16, and couldn't grow facial hair yet. :lol: They were pretty good, but nothing super special. I'll check them out more to make a judgement.

The next band, Trapped Under Ice, was the real start of the show in my opinion. All I knew about them in the past was their lead singer beating some kid within an inch of his goddamn life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faX_YqoowZY), so I was a little hesitant and scared of them to be honest. :eyes: It only took a couple seconds into their first song for me to be converted, though. They were really, really good hardcore. I loved every second of their performance. The crowd went pretty crazy too, with the first real stagedivers taking people out, and a lot more dancers. It kind of sucked for us up front, since there were only a couple rows of people standing, so they kept taking out people when they jumped. That singer is one jacked motherfucker, too! Unfortunately, they had their set cut short, and he got pissed and stormed off the stage without shaking anyone's hand or anything. Great set, though!

Trapped Under Ice Set (with some good footage of the craziness, not me taking it though):
Believe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CzprJFs4ok&feature=channel_video_title)
Soul Vice
Half a Person
See God
Skeleton Heads
Reality Unfolds
Outcast
TUI
Gemini (set got cut off after this song)

Next up was one of the main reasons I wanted to come to this show: Stick to Your Guns. They were every bit as tight as I pictured them to be live! Unfortunately, they didn't quite get the same crazy reaction as Trapped Under Ice, which kind of sucked, but the people up front like me loved them a lot. Jesse addressed the crowd at one point, saying, "I know we aren't the most popular band on this tour. We don't come from the streets like some of these other guys. I'm not gonna lie, we all come from nice suburban neigborhoods. But you know what? I still love this music. I love it." Really smart, nice guy. Amber was great live; Jesse put the mic in my face for the beginning! :) And of course, everyone did go insane for This is More. Right as the whole "Rest Assured..." breakdown began, I was the first one to jump on stage, and Jesse handed me the mic first! :party: It was really, really fun. The only problem was everyone was up on the stage that was in the front, so we didn't necessarily have anyone to stagedive onto to get off. Anyway, another super solid performance.

STYG Set (Something along these lines; I might have fudged it up a bit):
What Goes Around
Where the Sun Never Sleeps
Enough Is Enough
Part of Me
We're What Seperates the Heart From the Heartless
Some Kind of Hope
Amber
La Poderosa
This is More (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVoyrHv4PjM&feature=channel_video_title) (with me grabbing the mic first! :rocker:)

And finally... TERROR!

I didn't know what to expect. I really didn't. But when Terror took the stage, the crowd erupted in a manner I haven't quite seen before in a band, ever. I don't know how to quite describe it, but I took a bunch of good videos of the madness. Check them out! Stagediving beyond stagediving; and some of the craziest dancing I've ever seen. At one point, there must have been at least 100 people all over the floor throwing down like madmen (and women)! I'm not going to lie, I dabbled a bit in the foreign ways of this mysterious dance. I figured, "why the hell not? Everyone else is doing it; they aren't fag scene kids; and this is TERROR for chrissakes, one of the biggest bands in hardcore!"

I appreciate the hardcore dance more for what its made for: hardcore punk music. Nowhere there is the word "metal" involved. The mosh is the ways of death metal and thrash metal, while hardcore has this other unique element to it. And after seeing it live and experiencing it firsthand, I understand it. Never in a million years would I think I could say that. So to any metalheads here who hate the dance: go to a real hardcore show. Watch what happens, stand in the back even. Its really an amazing sight to behold!

Scott Vogel is also a hilarious and awesome frontman. More than once, he shouted out between songs, "LET ME SEE THOSE TITTIES, LADIES!" :lol::rocker::party::agree:

Terror Set (with links to some pretty insane footage I took):

Stick Tight
One With the Underdogs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya8q6xmMLLg) :bowdown:
Betrayer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PFhPGlXl2Q)
Life and Death
Out of My Face
Your Enemies are Mine
You're Caught
Lowest of the Low
Overcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqZLlbYAI-A)
Hell And Back
Spit My Rage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TimzIohToog)
Always the Hard Way (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYofodI7_9g)
Keep Your Mouth Shut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dys8GvIaAKE)
Keepers of the Faith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXCiHgwO_k)


:drool:


Oh, and if you weigh more than 300 pounds, do us a fucking favor and don't stage dive. I saw multiple people get flattened by a pancake when this one idiot kept diving. The crowd just can't take that.

I ended up picking up a "Keepers of the Faith" Terror shirt and a Stick to Your Guns CD (it was only $5, why the hell not). And I am proud to say that I am now a big fan of hardcore! Seeing this show... It was a really eye-opening experience. I passed up seeing Sepultura the same night as this, and I don't regret it for one second. If you can catch this tour at all still, or you can catch Terror at all in the future, I highly, HIGHLY recommend it! :party:

Although I don't think anything could top Dillinger Escape Plan this year for me, this show came really, really close. Its going to be hard for me to put together a year-end list!

And as always, thanks for reading my review! I appreciate it a ton.

brutal_descent
05-21-2011, 01:39 AM
Sounds brutal! :rocker: I love hardcore but honestly hardcore dancing is one of the only things in this world that I'm afraid of :eyes: Especially with all those arms flying around. I love a good mosh pit but at shows like Dillinger and Black Dahlia it's just terrifying for me. :tongue:

Check out Ignorance Never Dies. It's Your Demise's best album. I hear they're coming around with Enter Shikari in September over here :party:

Anyway, sweet Terror set! :rocker: Going to their show in June (19th) and might possibly check them out at Graspop this year. They're clashing with Moonsorrow though, so there's a chance I won't ;)

treghet
05-21-2011, 02:24 AM
Now in my past experience, I had only experienced "hardcore dancing" at metalcore and deathcore shows, with stupid kids doing it. This hardcore dancing was totally different; much more violent and expressive, with these older guys doing it, guys who have been involved in the Chicago scene for years and years by my estimation. And yet, oddly, it totally fit the groove of the music. It was really cool just to kind of stand back and watch these guys go at it- the "hardcore dance" was theirs, they were the generation and group that invented it. Kids nowadays just take it and bastardize it to shitty music. The whole "Keepers of the Faith" motto seemed to make more and more sense to me as I watched everyone; these were the true fans of hardcore, keeping it alive while all these new scenes popping up nowadays are bastardizing it.

...

I appreciate the hardcore dance more for what its made for: hardcore punk music. Nowhere there is the word "metal" involved. The mosh is the ways of death metal and thrash metal, while hardcore has this other unique element to it. And after seeing it live and experiencing it firsthand, I understand it. Never in a million years would I think I could say that. So to any metalheads here who hate the dance: go to a real hardcore show. Watch what happens, stand in the back even. Its really an amazing sight to behold!

I have to agree with all of this. While I can't say I will ever be into hardcore dancing, it really does make sense when you see a hardcore show. The dancing goes with the music, unlike in metalcore / deathcore when people only do it when there's a breakdown. And 90% of the people (if not more) at the metalcore / deathcore shows don't even know what they're doing anyway. They're mostly kids who just started doing it because they thought it looked cool.

Also, I'm glad you liked Trapped Under Ice! I assume they had to cut "Stay Cold", but I'm sure it was still a good time.

hellawaits77ny
05-21-2011, 06:11 AM
Not suprised at all you loved it. Terror is an absolutely phenomenal live band, one of my all-time favorites. I'm not into the whole "hardcore, beat the piss out of the person next to you" thing, but the energy at their shows is just unreal. Their performance at NEMHF was without a doubt one of the top 5 most intense shows I've attended. Scott Vogel is hilarious on stage, too. During their Albany show he starts randomly pointing to people saying" YOU...YOU...........YOU.......YOU........more stage dives!!" They are all cool guys, too. Looking forward to checking out the YT clips.

TUI is awesome as well. I was kinda turned off by what their lead singer did in that incident, but it is what it is. They are another great live band. At NEMHF, Justice their lead singer just randomly sits down right next to my buddies and I on the balcony during Blood for Blood. I introduced myself to him and we chatted for a few minutes. Seemed like a very nice, calm, friendly guy to me!

I wish gas wasn't $4+/gallon right now. They are playing 4 hours from me next week, and I wanna go so bad. Don't know if I can justify spending that much on gas for a tour I've already seen twice. But that's how good it is!!!!!

christopher
05-21-2011, 06:37 AM
I think hardcore aerobics are idiotic no matter what genre you do it for.

bigguytoo9
05-21-2011, 06:49 AM
Ive seen Terror twice, not my thing at all. Trapped Under Ice is supposed to be INSANE live.

hellawaits77ny
05-21-2011, 06:51 AM
Ive seen Terror twice, not my thing at all. Trapped Under Ice is supposed to be INSANE live.

That they are. But if you don't like Terror, you probably won't dig TUI.

treghet
05-21-2011, 08:25 AM
I'm not into the whole "hardcore, beat the piss out of the person next to you" thing ...

It's really not like that. :eyes: Of course there will be a couple people that are out for blood, but the same thing occurs at metal shows. I've seen a lot more of that kind of stuff happen at deathcore shows, where people dancing in the pit will intentionally hit those who aren't dancing.

jd091
05-21-2011, 09:03 AM
It's really not like that. :eyes: Of course there will be a couple people that are out for blood, but the same thing occurs at metal shows. I've seen a lot more of that kind of stuff happen at deathcore shows, where people dancing in the pit will intentionally hit those who aren't dancing.

This. I have to say, the dance is more of like an individual way of expression rather than a physical interaction with others. But still, people get jacked naturally when it happens. I for one got the air knock out of me by some guy's kick, but I just shrugged it off and told myself, "you get involved with this, you know something like this is gonna happen..."

What I feel REALLY bad about is that during "Stick Tight", the second time I stagedived I accidently clocked this poor girl it the face with my knee. I could tell it hurt her really bad. :eyes: About halfway through Terror's set, also, some stagedivier caught me with a foot square to my face by accident. My lip got cut and was bleeding pretty profusely; hence the reason I sat out by the side and filmed the last part of the set :D Its healed up pretty well, though. I feel proud to have that wound.

jd091
05-21-2011, 12:20 PM
I updated the set with the correct Trapped Under Ice and Stick To Your Guns sets. Apparently, the concert got filmed by these guys, Relieve the Moment Concerts, and they have clips of all the bands up on youtube EXCEPT for Terror! :confused: Whatever, they're crazy. Terror was by far the most insane.


http://www.youtube.com/user/rtmconcerts#p/u/12/KVoyrHv4PjM

masterguy49
05-21-2011, 01:05 PM
Damn, I regret not seeing them last week. :hecho:
We had a whole straight edge, hardcore festival down here last week. It was 2 days of 8 hours of Hardcore bands local and non-local. All these guys headlined the Saturday show. Though I have seen Close Your Eyes and Stick to your Guns. STYG is awesome but Close your Eyes is fucking awful in my opinion. The lead singer looks like a nazi.

300%_Density
05-21-2011, 03:25 PM
This is still just my opinion but I do not think there is a better hardcore band than Terror and I don't think that there is a better live hardcore act than Terror. I still remember seeing them for the first time in '03 and had no idea who they were, they played w/ Hatebreed, Madball & Hate Eternal and I remember leaving that show being so excited after seeing Terror. I need to see them again.

mankvill
05-21-2011, 03:39 PM
This is still just my opinion but I do not think there is a better hardcore band than Terror and I don't think that there is a better live hardcore act than Terror. I still remember seeing them for the first time in '03 and had no idea who they were, they played w/ Hatebreed, Madball & Hate Eternal and I remember leaving that show being so excited after seeing Terror. I need to see them again.

:party:

My first time was:

Suicidal Tendencies
Terror
Whole Wheat Bread

doesn't get much better than that :D

hellawaits77ny
05-21-2011, 07:12 PM
It's really not like that. :eyes: Of course there will be a couple people that are out for blood, but the same thing occurs at metal shows. I've seen a lot more of that kind of stuff happen at deathcore shows, where people dancing in the pit will intentionally hit those who aren't dancing.

K bub. I don't know what I'm talking about. I've gotten a jaw sprain at a Terror show from getting punched in the side of the face. There are plenty of idiots at hardcore shows. And I've seen Terror live 5x, there are idiots in their audience just like there are idiots at any hardcore/deathcore show.

hellawaits77ny
05-21-2011, 07:24 PM
This. I have to say, the dance is more of like an individual way of expression rather than a physical interaction with others.

No offense Dude, but you wrote in your review this was your first hardcore show. You're right in that not everyone is out for blood, but trust me: I have seen many idiots moshing at every hardcore show I've been to. People running around swinging their arms and kicking wildly around people who aren't moving : I'd say that's a physical interaction w/ others. Don't wanna start a pissing war w/ anyone, just stating my opinion.

treghet
05-21-2011, 07:35 PM
K bub. I don't know what I'm talking about. I've gotten a jaw sprain at a Terror show from getting punched in the side of the face. There are plenty of idiots at hardcore shows.

You were just unlucky. ;)

I didn't mean that stuff doesn't happen, because it does - especially with so many people going off the wall - I'm just sayin', it's a common misconception that all of hardcore is all about being macho/badass and beating the shit out of people.

People like that only make up a small percentage of the hardcore scene. I'll share an incident a friend told me about. A couple years ago he saw a local band, Murder Death Kill, and he said during the set one of the vocalists said something like "You [area code] guys know what to do." And then a whole bunch of built guys started beating the shit out of everybody in the venue, and security couldn't do anything about it. But when you look at videos of hardcore bands playing, how much of that stuff do you see? Bands like Murder Death Kill are the ones who give hardcore a bad reputation. It's mostly just people having fun, stage diving, crowd surfing, dancing, and screaming the lyrics. When you go to a hardcore show you see a lot more passion in the crowd than most other genres of music.

While on this subject, I'll post a video that represents that vibe I'm talking about.

Stop and Think (Boston hardcore): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZOgpOeSQQ

hellawaits77ny
05-21-2011, 07:53 PM
LOL, MDK's music I don't mind, but they are such douches. I can understand what you mean. I'm definately not saying everyone at hardcore show are idiots, but those select few can ruin it for everyone. Well sorta

I'll check that vid when I'm home.