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Steev
05-11-2011, 05:08 PM
Is being announced Sat May 21st at Rock On The Range

WOLVERINEKILLS
05-11-2011, 05:15 PM
I haven't heard much but I will venture a guess that Staind, 10 Years, Lacuna Coil are on board.

Steev
05-11-2011, 05:28 PM
I haven't heard much but I will venture a guess that Staind, 10 Years, Lacuna Coil are on board.

The immediate guess is that it gets announced because a mainstage band is playing


The top 4 that day are A7X, KoRn, Staind, and AB

So we'll see I guess, I'm half tempted to drop by a few of the bigger signings(if the bands do them) to get any news



Then again they'll probably have posters pasted all over, did the same thing(kinda) with the Stimulate This tour in 2009

Magson13
05-11-2011, 05:39 PM
I'm guessing that all of the bands on Carnival will be playing Rock on the Range

Steev
05-11-2011, 05:47 PM
I'm guessing that all of the bands on Carnival will be playing Rock on the Range

I wouldn't say all just because if so that'd be the wrong place to announce it

Because a lot of folks would just say "fuck it I already saw them"

Shadowswillfall414
05-11-2011, 06:10 PM
Im predicting alter bridge. That is all.

Magson13
05-11-2011, 06:12 PM
I wouldn't say all just because if so that'd be the wrong place to announce it

Because a lot of folks would just say "fuck it I already saw them"

Then they just wouldn't have a Carnival date in Ohio. Which they probably won't anyways, if the headliner is already playing RotR

Shadowswillfall414
05-11-2011, 06:13 PM
This might be a long one, and i know this probably wont happen but, perfect circle?

JLRedWing13
05-11-2011, 06:21 PM
This might be a long one, and i know this probably wont happen but, perfect circle?
They're doing their own tour.

It's a pipe dream probably, but I'm hoping for Volbeat to be on there somewhere.

Black Stone Cherry has gotten a lot of attention on their FB page, wouldn't be surprised if they were on it.

Steev
05-11-2011, 06:29 PM
They're doing their own tour.

It's a pipe dream probably, but I'm hoping for Volbeat to be on there somewhere.

Black Stone Cherry has gotten a lot of attention on their FB page, wouldn't be surprised if they were on it.

Its possible, but they're also signed to the same management that runs the tour


So is Theory Of A Deadman, but it sounds like the tour was going to stray from just bands signed to their management

JLRedWing13
05-11-2011, 06:33 PM
Theory was just on Avalanche, I'd be surprised if any of those bands (Stone Sour, Skillet, Halestorm, etc) were on it.

Steev
05-11-2011, 07:10 PM
Theory was just on Avalanche, I'd be surprised if any of those bands (Stone Sour, Skillet, Halestorm, etc) were on it.

I wouldn't be, the tour skipped a number of major cities(or in the case of Philadelphia, the tour came minus some of the bigger names)



Honestly I'm hoping for a big reveal, just more fun that way

JLRedWing13
05-11-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm hoping it doesn't suck, last year's lineup put on a great show from top to bottom. Without Shinedown this year, I'm hoping it's not headlined by a band like Korn.....

Steev
05-11-2011, 07:28 PM
I'm hoping it doesn't suck, last year's lineup put on a great show from top to bottom. Without Shinedown this year, I'm hoping it's not headlined by a band like Korn.....

I think it's gonna be Staind

only because KoRn apparently has overseas commitments that have already led to them cancelling a US date


last year was fun, missed 10 Years because of a M&G with Shinedown but all the bands did a great job



here's 10 bands I think may be in consideration(keep in mind a few are currently or were once managed by Indegoot-who present the tour):
Theory Of A Deadman
Finger Eleven
Black Stone Cherry
Halestorm
Drowning Pool
Volbeat
Sick Puppies
Papa Roach
Staind
Five Finger Death Punch

Magson13
05-11-2011, 07:28 PM
I'm hoping it doesn't suck, last year's lineup put on a great show from top to bottom. Without Shinedown this year, I'm hoping it's not headlined by a band like Korn.....

Except Chevelle. They sucked.

Steev
05-11-2011, 07:39 PM
I also think there's an offchance Evanescence does it


basically look at bands doing radio shows and state fairs this summer that aren't already on major tours

I'm sure alot of those bands will end up on this or Uproar

JLRedWing13
05-11-2011, 10:12 PM
Except Chevelle. They sucked.
Psh....liar.

Steev
05-11-2011, 10:14 PM
An article on amazon.com has Adelita's Way on the bill


Meh

Magson13
05-11-2011, 10:30 PM
Psh....liar.

They sucked at the Chili Cookoff too. >:[

NickLed19
05-12-2011, 01:54 AM
Adeltas Way is in. I think Black Stone Cherry and Theory of Shit are also in. The other 2, I have no idea. Maybe Korn and Staind, or Alter Bridge.

maidenpriest
05-12-2011, 01:55 AM
If Alter Bridge is headlining then I'm going. Otherwise bleh.

NickLed19
05-12-2011, 01:55 AM
Except Chevelle. They sucked.

Chevelle is terrible live.

NickLed19
05-12-2011, 01:56 AM
If Alter Bridge is headlining then I'm going. Otherwise bleh.

Alter Bridge will not headline.

Steev
05-12-2011, 06:07 AM
Adeltas Way is in. I think Black Stone Cherry and Theory of Shit are also in. The other 2, I have no idea. Maybe Korn and Staind, or Alter Bridge.

Theory has actually been really good the two times I saw them


suprised me

NickLed19
05-12-2011, 03:23 PM
They are just terrible live. They have been a little better the last 2 times, but still not good. I really hope Staind and Alter Bridge are on this tour. I might go if those 2 are on it.

JLRedWing13
05-12-2011, 03:42 PM
Chevelle is terrible live.
Absolutely not. Anyone who believes that has never seen them in a more intimate setting.

Alter Bridge is headlining their own tour right now, I highly doubt they would be headlining this. Staind would be good, Korn would be bleh. I'm tired of them. In an ideal scenario for me, Volbeat and Alter Bridge are on it with a shitty band or two (Theory....) to balance it out. I'd be ok with that.

Magson13
05-12-2011, 03:56 PM
Why would I waste my money on seeing Chevelle in a club, when I've already seen them twice, and they were terrible both times...?

NickLed19
05-13-2011, 01:56 AM
Why would I waste my money on seeing Chevelle in a club, when I've already seen them twice, and they were terrible both times...?

This. They are not a bad band, they just are boring as hell live.

NickLed19
05-13-2011, 03:03 AM
Now they are not announcing it at ROTR. They took that off the FB page. This lineup mus be falling through.

JLRedWing13
05-13-2011, 07:20 PM
Why would I waste my money on seeing Chevelle in a club, when I've already seen them twice, and they were terrible both times...?
Except you said they were much better the second time. :hmm:

Magson13
05-13-2011, 10:35 PM
Except you said they were much better the second time. :hmm:

They were better the second time, yes. It just wasn't nearly as awful the second time around. Still, quite boring. :P

NickLed19
05-23-2011, 05:52 AM
Lineup is Theory of a Deadman, Alter Bridge, Black Stone Cherry, Adeltas Way, and Emphatic. What a shit lineup, besides AB.

DisasterPiece120
05-23-2011, 07:36 AM
Black Stone Cherry still exists?

MPF
05-23-2011, 12:13 PM
Black Stone Cherry still exists?

Yes, they sound even shittier.

The only good band is Alter Bridge, and they are opening for Theory of a Deadman shitty!

NickLed19
05-23-2011, 01:53 PM
Its a Co-Headline, AB will probly get an hour. And BSC is still much better than Theory. This tour is pretty awful though.

DementedX14
05-23-2011, 02:02 PM
Lineup is Theory of a Deadman, Alter Bridge, Black Stone Cherry, Adeltas Way, and Emphatic. What a shit lineup, besides AB.

Wow, that is terrible.

maidenpriest
05-23-2011, 02:04 PM
If Theory of a Deadman is headlining then that is bullshit

AnthG
05-23-2011, 02:33 PM
And I thought last year's lineup was underwhelming.

mankvill
05-23-2011, 02:51 PM
Generic corporate-sponsored radio-rock bullshit tour #1394198

NickLed19
05-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Generic corporate-sponsored radio-rock bullshit tour #1394198

Except the fact that AB is much better and should not even be grouped in with these bands.

JLRedWing13
05-23-2011, 03:52 PM
Alter Bridge co-headlining is the only reason I would ever consider this. I really want to see them.

Magson13
05-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Well, this is a club tour., at best. Bahaha.

Travis The Dragon
05-29-2011, 06:47 PM
Well, this is a club tour., at best. Bahaha.

SUN
AUG 28 St. Paul, MN
Minnesota State Fair

That holds 19,000 people.

NickLed19
05-29-2011, 07:08 PM
SUN
AUG 28 St. Paul, MN
Minnesota State Fair

That holds 19,000 people.

2,000 will show up. Seriously, I see at most a few thousand at each show.

Shadowswillfall414
05-29-2011, 07:18 PM
I would only go for alter bridge.

MPF
05-29-2011, 08:01 PM
2,000 will show up. Seriously, I see at most a few thousand at each show.

Considering this is the Minnesota State Fair, and all of those band, sans Alter Bridge are played at nausea. This will be a huge show.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 08:55 PM
SUN
AUG 28 St. Paul, MN
Minnesota State Fair

That holds 19,000 people.

Ya, cuz the bands playing are the only reason people show up to the state fair. Good try little buddy.

NickLed19
05-29-2011, 08:57 PM
Ya, cuz the bands playing are the only reason people show up to the state fair. Good try little buddy.

Foreal haha.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 09:02 PM
There'll be like, 15000 people there. And at least 10000 will say "What's that noise? It doesn't sound like radio..... Are there bands playing here?"

Maiden33
05-29-2011, 09:24 PM
Love Alter Bridge and would definitely be up for seeing them again... But those other bands... DO NOT WANT.

Maiden33
05-29-2011, 09:30 PM
Except the fact that AB is much better and should not even be grouped in with these bands.

This.

Travis The Dragon
05-29-2011, 09:33 PM
Ya, cuz the bands playing are the only reason people show up to the state fair. Good try little buddy.

Obviously that's not the only reason people go to a state fair. You said this would be a club tour at best and I'm just showing you that some of the places this is being booked at are quite a bit bigger than a club.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 09:47 PM
Obviously that's not the only reason people go to a state fair. You said this would be a club tour at best and I'm just showing you that some of the places this is being booked at are quite a bit bigger than a club.

Ya, state fairs book club tours all the time. Doesn't mean it's not still a club tour.

Maiden33
05-29-2011, 09:57 PM
By the way, this is playing here in Allentown WITH 3 Doors Down headlining over the whole thing, and it's playing a ~9,000-capacity place. So I would assume without them, they're looking at maybe 5,000? Doesn't seem THAT lofty. Alter Bridge sold out both of their last 2 shows in NYC which were alone and at ~1,200 capacity places.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 10:04 PM
By the way, this is playing here in Allentown WITH 3 Doors Down headlining over the whole thing, and it's playing a ~9,000-capacity place. So I would assume without them, they're looking at maybe 5,000? Doesn't seem THAT lofty. Alter Bridge sold out both of their last 2 shows in NYC which were alone and at ~1,200 capacity places.

3DD headlined a 20,000 capacity venue here, with Switchfoot opening. And Switchfoot plays a 1500 capacity club here for twenty bucks. So 3DD headlining a 9000 capacity venue with this package does not speak well for the package....

Maiden33
05-29-2011, 10:08 PM
3DD headlined a 20,000 capacity venue here, with Switchfoot opening. And Switchfoot plays a 1500 capacity club here for twenty bucks. So 3DD headlining a 9000 capacity venue with this package does not speak well for the package....

1) Just curious, where's "Here"? You don't list your location and I'm curious. The fact that by "here" I mean Allentown, PA - you have to take into account that nothing ever plays here, because there's not much here to play, and frankly nothing sells that well when it does play here.

2) I actually looked it up. It claims that with its standard seating capacity, the place this is gonna be at is actually around 10,500, and that's probably not taking into account that the whole front section is gonna be GA for this, which means even more tickets.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 10:12 PM
Southeast Virginia.

3DD is playing a venue there about half the size as here (and when they played here the supposrt was minimal). Just found it funny that this whole package is opening that show. Especially considering the Alter Bridge w/ Black Stone Cherry tour was more of a draw at a club here than the Switchfoot headliner was..... lol.

Maiden33
05-29-2011, 10:17 PM
Southeast Virginia.

3DD is playing a venue there about half the size as here (and when they played here the supposrt was minimal). Just found it funny that this whole package is opening that show. Especially considering the Alter Bridge w/ Black Stone Cherry tour was more of a draw at a club here than the Switchfoot headliner was..... lol.

Ah alright. Honestly I think it's kinda hard to compare some of these numbers because every market is a little different and things are just hard to know.

Then again, maybe what I'm saying about the show in my area means nothing. Because, come to think of it - the Journey + Foreigner/Night Ranger summer tour is playing ~18,000-capacity amphitheaters in most places but, also playing that same place here in Allentown. Rush did the same last year. It's very weird, it's almost like they try to go after bands or events that should be playing larger venues. So maybe it's not the best comparison.

Magson13
05-29-2011, 10:24 PM
The Foreigner/Journey tour is hitting the same venue as the 3DD/Switchfoot tour did, so I guess it would be the same thing here. Still a pretty big difference in openers though, Switchfoot compared to this whole package seems like a huge swing.

This is still definitely a club tour though.... The Stone Sour/ToaD tour that just went around, played a club here for $35. And that package had more draw than this one does, with Skillet opening.

NickLed19
05-30-2011, 10:48 AM
The Foreigner/Journey tour is hitting the same venue as the 3DD/Switchfoot tour did, so I guess it would be the same thing here. Still a pretty big difference in openers though, Switchfoot compared to this whole package seems like a huge swing.

This is still definitely a club tour though.... The Stone Sour/ToaD tour that just went around, played a club here for $35. And that package had more draw than this one does, with Skillet opening.

And Halestorm.

Magson13
05-30-2011, 03:51 PM
And Halestorm.

Halestorm and Black Stone Cherry have about the same draw. Ish.

NickLed19
05-30-2011, 03:54 PM
The Avalanche tour was a complete disaster, so this will be in even worse. If Stone Sour/Theory/Skillet is playing for 1-2k, imagine how bad this will be.

Magson13
05-30-2011, 04:26 PM
Exactly. Avalanche sold so poorly here, it got moved from an arena to a club that holds 1500. And people were talking about how American Carnage sold poorly :lol:

NickLed19
05-30-2011, 07:35 PM
They played in an arena here that held around 7,000 and I would say that around 2,000 showed up. They were pretty much giving away tix.

Sanitarium78
05-31-2011, 06:24 AM
This lineup, along with this years Uproar are the main reasons festivals need to go away for a good long while in the US. They're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel now for bands and Alter Bridge needs to realize they don't need to be on crap tours like this and they're fine on their own. Seriously, Theory Of A Deadman is your headliner? For real?

Until these festivals can offer something unique like Ozzfest did they all need to just go away. It's too much at this point. Let the bands sink or swim on their own tours instead of packaging them up with 27 other lame run of the mill acts in an attempt to get people to come out when in reality people who go to these shows really only care about one or two bands.

Magson13
05-31-2011, 03:55 PM
^This isn't a festival, it's a package tour. A festival is multiple stages, and usually has non-band entertainment as well. This is just five bands touring together.

Sanitarium78
05-31-2011, 04:23 PM
^This isn't a festival, it's a package tour. A festival is multiple stages, and usually has non-band entertainment as well. This is just five bands touring together.

Regardless of weather it's a festival or not, I think five bands on one bill is too much. All you need is a headliner and two or three support acts at the most, that's it. I'm a little tired of this co-headline bullshit to since bands never play a full headline set even though they're supposed to be the headliners.

Magson13
05-31-2011, 05:02 PM
Tours haven't been doing well lately, due to the economy. That's why bands are getting together and touring as a package, so they have more drawing potential. Even though it obviously still doesn't work (Avalanche) :lol:

Sanitarium78
05-31-2011, 05:05 PM
Tours haven't been doing well lately, due to the economy. That's why bands are getting together and touring as a package, so they have more drawing potential. Even though it obviously still doesn't work (Avalanche) :lol:

I know. But I think we can agree that there's been far too many of these festivals/package tours going on the last few years.

rjturtle9
05-31-2011, 05:15 PM
I'm a little tired of this co-headline bullshit to since bands never play a full headline set even though they're supposed to be the headliners.

This! If it wasn't for this we would have already gotten a proper Slayer tour!

Magson13
05-31-2011, 05:47 PM
I'm fine with one hour sets from most bands. There are some that I'd like 1.5-2 hours from, but most I just want an hour, then go home. So package tours are nice, in my opinion.

rjturtle9
05-31-2011, 06:27 PM
I'm fine with one hour sets from most bands. There are some that I'd like 1.5-2 hours from, but most I just want an hour, then go home. So package tours are nice, in my opinion.

:wow:

dcmetal108
06-01-2011, 06:20 AM
Terrible lineup. I see them playing small indoor venues ex"House Of Blues". Lineup isn't good enough for a big draw/big venue.

And about Avalanche Tour I think it could have been good if they didn't try for a huge venue. Stone Sour has a good draw and I'm a big fan of them and Halestorm is great too but the big venue and high prices for that show made me skip. I'm pretty sure for the show in Chicago tickets were like $60.00. Plus I heard the show in Bloomington IL sold so poorly that tickets were lowered to somewhere around 2 for $25.00.