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jd091
02-27-2011, 09:56 PM
Bands: Whitechapel, The Acacia Strain, Veil of Maya, Chelsea Grin, I Declare War
Venue: Chicago House of Blues

So anyone here who pays attention to my posts knows that I love all types of metal, particularly death metal. But I've also dug Whitechapel for a while, so I was looking forward to this show a lot. I was also pumped for our home town heroes, Veil of Maya, and I've loved Wormwood a ton, so I was pumped for Acacia. A win-win-win situation for me.

PhamD_metalhead got some flak a couple weeks back for posting "This was probably the most brutal concert I've been to", pertaining to the first date of this tour. I think people thought he was talking about the music, but he was definitely talking about the crowd. Bar none, tonight was one of the strongest, passionate, most intense display of human violence that I've ever witnessed.

Started out getting there when the doors opened and having to wait on the goddamn bridge of the Chicago river, which was cold as hell. Got in at 5:05, and I Declare War was already playing. Got my coat checked, and got in the floor and tested the pits out a bit. Everyone seemed to really like them, and honestly, they sounded great live. I'll have to give these guys another listen. There was a good amount of karate kids for them, but a surprising number of good push moshes that started.

I knew I was gonna hate Chelsea Grin, so I stood off by the bar and got some water. Observing the entire floor gave me a rude awakening to how brutal the 3 bands I was here for were gonna be: by this time, the floor was so packed that there wasn't a ton of room for ninjas, with everybody jumping up and down, and push moshes occurring which spanned wall to wall. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the music, but standing back and observing the crowd was pretty cool. After they got off, I rushed the stage because I knew VoM was gonna be crazy.

And I wasn't wrong. I don't know if we had a great crowd, or because this is their home territory, but Veil absolutely destroyed. I'm pretty sure I didn't see one hardcore dancer during their whole set. The moshes were incredibly violent and intense, and everybody was getting into the music. Personally, I crowdsurfed 6 times, and was one of many people going crazy for them. I think even the band was surprised at how intense of a reaction they were getting. I probably had the most fun personally with their performance.

After Veil my body was shot, so I took up a spot at the back center of the floor to observe the craziness of Acacia Strain. When they came on, I think the pits stepped up a notch. Some people were trying to hardcore dance- I think- but when you put that many people on a floor so tight, it just turned into one giant push mosh where everyone was punching each other's guts, too. They put on a great performance, and I got up close for JFC, when Vincent did his rant against god, making the song go out for all the atheists, nihilists, and agnostics in the room. Lets just say there weren't a lot of religious people at that show :party:

I decided to try and push up close for Whitechapel, and they ended up killing it in my opinion. For anyone who hates Whitechapel due to the breakdowns, I'd strongly suggest checking out their newest album. Those songs felt more like I was watching a death metal band play, since the breakdowns are few and far between. Personally, all the other songs were highlights for me (LOLZ HE LIKES BREAKDOWNS, FUCK HIM). Despite all the breakdowns and whatever shit you hate about deathcore, a good 85% of all the moshing I saw, and participated in, was good ol' moshing as we know it. Performance wise, Phil's voice sounded great and the guitars were pretty spot on for what I could tell. The crowd reaction took a little time to heat up; Devolver might be the worst opening song ever. When Posession came out, though, the place blew up and stayed that way the whole night. Wall of death for Exile was awesome, and quickly escalated into the most violent pit of the night. It really was a sight to see.

I don't know if its the crowds in Chicago, but that's the second concert I've seen in one week where I expected all karate kids, but got insane moshes instead (Parkway Drive was the other). I will say all the guys in the pit where about 6'5, 250 pounds, ex-marines who were out for extreme blood. If you have any interest in these bands, despite whatever opinions real metalheads have of them, this was an insane show. Definitely the most violent one I've ever been to (Although I haven't seen Hatebreed live, which I would assume nothing could top).

From the great crowd to crowdsurfing a grand total of 9 times, this concert got a 9/10 from me.

Setlists (The same as all the other nights, unfortunately. I would've liked to see some older ones from Whitechapel):

Veil of Maya:
Martyrs
Crawl Back
Unbreakable :rocker:
Dark Passenger
Pillars
We Bow in it's Aura
Namaste
It's Not Safe to Swim Today :rocker:

The Acacia Strain:
Beast
The Hills Have Eyes
Whoa! Shut It Down! :rocker:
See You Next Tuesday
Ramirez
Dr. Doom
Bay of Pigs
JFC :rocker: :fingers:
Carbomb

Whitechapel:
Devolver
Breeding Violence
Possession
The Darkest Day of Man
Reprogrammed to Hate
Prostatic Fluid Asphyxiation
End of Flesh
Unnerving
Death Becomes Him
Vicer Exciser :rocker:
Eternal Refuge :rocker:
Murder Sermon
Single File to Dehumanization

Encore:
Of Legions/This is Exile :rocker:

And remember: Haters Gonna Hate :cool:

mankvill
02-27-2011, 10:04 PM
Bar none, tonight was one of the strongest, passionate, most intense display of human violence that I've ever witnessed.

And that's why I fucking abhor seeing these types of bands live.

illuminatus917
02-27-2011, 10:04 PM
I will say all the guys in the pit where about 6'5, 250 pounds, ex-marines who were out for extreme blood.

This is not surprising.

mankvill
02-27-2011, 10:09 PM
This is not surprising.

Meathead music attracts meatheads! Whodathunk.

trollan this thread awyeah

jd091
02-27-2011, 10:56 PM
And that's why I fucking abhor seeing these types of bands live.

Yeah, I can see how it completely sucks. I love being in pits where they're not to huge and everyone is around your size... but this was just plain painful. It was certainly an experience live.

mankvill
02-27-2011, 11:00 PM
Yeah, I can see how it completely sucks. I love being in pits where they're not to huge and everyone is around your size... but this was just plain painful. It was certainly an experience live.

And the thing is, it's all -core bands that attract those types of pits, not just deathcore. Even one's I like, like grindcore and (good) metalcore. It just seems to bring out the fucking asshole "tr00 punx" kiddies at every show. I am way hesitant toward attending hardcore shows here that I would probably like because of how annoying they can be.

jd091
02-27-2011, 11:08 PM
And the thing is, it's all -core bands that attract those types of pits, not just deathcore. Even one's I like, like grindcore and (good) metalcore. It just seems to bring out the fucking asshole "tr00 punx" kiddies at every show. I am way hesitant toward attending hardcore shows here that I would probably like because of how annoying they can be.

For me, all the great death metal bands I've seen have been at small venues where there can't physically be enough space on the floor to cause such visceral, intense pit action like that. Or maybe death metal fans are just mature, and like to watch the bands play ;)

That was the thing with the concert, sometimes I just wanted to get a break and watch the performance, but I needed to go all the way off the floor to the bar area. Like it or hate it, thats the way -core bands are.

hellawaits77ny
02-27-2011, 11:31 PM
I agree w/ your posts on unneccessary violence in -core pits. What I saw at the Full Blown Chaos performance in Albany last week was stupid. Truly stupid what people were doing to each other. I can definately picture what y'all are talking about.

I love the pits you see at Slayer + death metal shows : People moving around, circle pits, but you don't usually see people doing that stupid kicking, punching shit.

Glad to see WC had some old-school metal-type pits. After the reviews that've been posted here, I'm a little bummed I didn't get to see this tour.

MPF
02-28-2011, 12:50 AM
I don't mind headbanging and fist pumping and all those good times. But to me moshing and karate kicks are just plain fucking stupid.

I don't pay good money for a ticket to get my ass kicked physically. I only want my ass kicked by the music of the bands playing.

jd091
02-28-2011, 01:00 AM
I don't pay good money for a ticket to get my ass kicked physically. I only want my ass kicked by the music of the bands playing.

Good point, and fair enough! Some music is definitely like that for me, like Opeth or Between the Buried and Me. But there's something to be said for the adrenaline rush you get in a mosh for some music, and these bands are that kind of music to me. But yeah, my ass is pretty kicked physically, and my knee is gonna be bruised for the next week.

Worth it, in my stupid opinion. I'm gonna die by age 35...

jd091
02-28-2011, 01:07 AM
Oh God, I forgot to mention that during Chelsea Grin when I was standing by the bar, there was this guy, I shit you not, who was about age 75, wrinkly with the trashiest moustache ever, wearing a Chelsea Grin shirt, who knew all the lyrics and was yelling along.

:wtf:

And he kept going, "Yeah, BITCH! Chelsea! BITCH!" I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

larvtard
02-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Meh, not a huge moshing guy myself. I'd like to say it's because I like to enjoy the music, but I'm just an uncoordinated wuss.
But personally, I'd rather mosh with skinny people who won't hurt me as much :cool:

illuminatus917
02-28-2011, 08:34 PM
Oh God, I forgot to mention that during Chelsea Grin when I was standing by the bar, there was this guy, I shit you not, who was about age 75, wrinkly with the trashiest moustache ever, wearing a Chelsea Grin shirt, who knew all the lyrics and was yelling along.

:wtf:

And he kept going, "Yeah, BITCH! Chelsea! BITCH!" I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

That's just fucking weird.

hellawaits77ny
02-28-2011, 08:38 PM
That's just fucking weird.

Seriously 75? That's flat out weird.

At death metal shows, like Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Malevolent Creation, I'll always see the old-school dudes in their 40's and pushing 50, but 75.........that's insane.

jd091
02-28-2011, 10:08 PM
Seriously 75? That's flat out weird.

At death metal shows, like Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Malevolent Creation, I'll always see the old-school dudes in their 40's and pushing 50, but 75.........that's insane.

Exactly. This guy was a straight up grandpa who loved deathcore. Beyond weird. And Chelsea Grin, nonetheless!


Meh, not a huge moshing guy myself. I'd like to say it's because I like to enjoy the music, but I'm just an uncoordinated wuss.
But personally, I'd rather mosh with skinny people who won't hurt me as much :cool:

Again, I agree. I got jacked by some serious steroid users. And you think there'd be those skinny scene kids hardcore dancing, right? Wrong. The hardcore dancers that were there were all over 6 feet and at least 275. It was straight up violence like I haven't seen before.

Nick_to_the_face
03-04-2011, 08:04 AM
Lol you like white chapel

treghet
03-04-2011, 08:41 AM
Lol you like white chapel

Do I see a Mushroomhead date in your signature? :tongue:

jd091
03-04-2011, 12:21 PM
Lol you like white chapel

Yep... and I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm not saying they're a great band or anything; I just enjoy their music for some reason. Still was a great concert, imao.

Do I see a Mushroomhead date in your signature? :tongue:

:lol: I have friends who love Mushroomhead, and I couldn't like 'em to save my life. All the power to you, I guess, since I have no room to criticize music tastes ;)

And wait... do I see a Day to Remeber date also?

:ass:

GarageMetal468
03-04-2011, 12:59 PM
That's the one thing I like about the House of Blues, they let you crowd surf. I abuse that right like no other whenever I'm there!

hellawaits77ny
03-04-2011, 09:54 PM
Do I see a Mushroomhead date in your signature? :tongue:

Agreed.

Seriously, Man. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but how can you rip on Whitechapel when you're a Mushroomhead fan? I also noticed a Day To Remember date in there.

To each his own, but I wouldn't give people grief for liking a quality deathcore band while being a Mushroomhead fan. No disrespect, just saying.

AnataFan4Life
03-04-2011, 10:04 PM
My friend tried to go to this show at the NC date. He was about 10 people away from reaching the door and it sold out.

Needless to say, he was pissed.

hellawaits77ny
03-05-2011, 12:37 AM
My friend tried to go to this show at the NC date. He was about 10 people away from reaching the door and it sold out.

Needless to say, he was pissed.

Not sure if someone has already said this, but I don't understand why people don't order their tix online or over the phone before the show. Use your brain people. I'd be livid if I got to a show expecting to get in and it was sold out.

AnataFan4Life
03-05-2011, 06:54 AM
Not sure if someone has already said this, but I don't understand why people don't order their tix online or over the phone before the show. Use your brain people. I'd be livid if I got to a show expecting to get in and it was sold out.

I asked him the same thing. I never buy tickets at the door, even if its a show that probably won't sell out.

Nick_to_the_face
03-09-2011, 08:54 AM
Yep... and I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm not saying they're a great band or anything; I just enjoy their music for some reason. Still was a great concert, imao.


:lol: I have friends who love Mushroomhead, and I couldn't like 'em to save my life. All the power to you, I guess, since I have no room to criticize music tastes ;)

And wait... do I see a Day to Remeber date also?

:ass:

I'm just giving you shit man ;)
and damn straight you do, and it's for my girl friend :finger:

Agreed.

Seriously, Man. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but how can you rip on Whitechapel when you're a Mushroomhead fan? I also noticed a Day To Remember date in there.

To each his own, but I wouldn't give people grief for liking a quality deathcore band while being a Mushroomhead fan. No disrespect, just saying.

Just busting balls man, s'all good ;)
I'm not one of those guys to talk shit and "lol your not metal"
I like a lot of bands that some people on here would give me shit for because its deathcoreand like said before, to each his own

no matter how bad the band is ;)

Do I see a Mushroomhead date in your signature? :tongue:

Hell yeah you do, Mushroomhead is the shit :D
at least there whole set doesn't sound the same...:eyes:
:tongue:

Nick_to_the_face
03-09-2011, 01:58 PM
and fuck i wish i could have seen The Acacia Strain when this came through..

Nick_to_the_face
03-11-2011, 06:43 AM
Bumb for reply :D

jd091
03-11-2011, 11:14 AM
Bumb for reply :D

:lol:

Yes, you should have seen it for the Acacia Strain. They put on a brutal performance. As I said in the review, there were amazing crowd reactions for all 3 main bands, although I would say I witnessed the most violence during Acacia, with at least 3 legitimate fights breaking out.

Now that we know Whitechapel is gonna headline Summer Slaughter... How do you guys feel about that? I feel like nobody is gonna be into them for that tour, and the people who are will be a bunch of scene kids. Believe me or not, but scene kids were few and far between at this show.

Dextrimental
03-11-2011, 11:19 AM
:lol:

Yes, you should have seen it for the Acacia Strain. They put on a brutal performance. As I said in the review, there were amazing crowd reactions for all 3 main bands, although I would say I witnessed the most violence during Acacia, with at least 3 legitimate fights breaking out.

Now that we know Whitechapel is gonna headline Summer Slaughter... How do you guys feel about that? I feel like nobody is gonna be into them for that tour, and the people who are will be a bunch of scene kids. Believe me or not, but scene kids were few and far between at this show.

I think if Whitechapel weren't headlining, they'd win a little bit of ground with actual death metal fans.

jd091
03-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I think if Whitechapel weren't headlining, they'd win a little bit of ground with actual death metal fans.

The thing with Whitechapel is that when it comes to deathcore, they're rooted very much in the "death" rather than the "core", opposed to say Acacia. I think you're right in your assumption.

Nick_to_the_face
03-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Who else is gonna be there?
Necrphagist?! :bliss:

jd091
03-12-2011, 03:10 PM
Who else is gonna be there?
Necrphagist?! :bliss:
I wish. Do you realize it's been 7 years since Epitaph? 7 motherfucking years. They need to put out a new album before they do any sort of touring again.

According to the inside word from the Summer Slaughter boards, it's 100% certain that Whitechapel, Black Dahlia Murder, and Darkest Hour will all co-headline, with Whitechapel performing last I believe. Dying Fetus and Fleshgod Apocalypse are confirmed, and either 1349 or Skeletonwitch will be on it also.

With that many huge names, I can't picture there being any other bands. I'm really excited for this lineup, but pretty sad at the same time that they're ditching the traditional Death Metal lineup for the most part, excluding Dying Fetus. In my opinion, a tech death band should headline this tour, no matter what. Whitechapel as a headliner is gonna turn a LOT of people away from SS, and attract a different crowd. Isn't that what the other kiddie tours are for, like Atticus Metal and Thrash and Burn? :confused:

GarageMetal468
03-13-2011, 12:09 PM
Whitechapel is gonna play last? Sweet! I can leave early!

treghet
03-13-2011, 05:16 PM
Isn't that what the other kiddie tours are for, like Atticus Metal and Thrash and Burn? :confused:

This x 1000. There are more than enough big deathcore tours out there.

hellawaits77ny
03-13-2011, 06:22 PM
I pretty sad at the same time that they're ditching the traditional Death Metal lineup for the most part, excluding Dying Fetus. In my opinion, a tech death band should headline this tour, no matter what. Whitechapel as a headliner is gonna turn a LOT of people away from SS, and attract a different crowd. Isn't that what the other kiddie tours are for, like Atticus Metal and Thrash and Burn? :confused:

You are so right my friend

Nick_to_the_face
03-14-2011, 11:17 AM
I wish. Do you realize it's been 7 years since Epitaph? 7 motherfucking years. They need to put out a new album before they do any sort of touring again.

Isn't that what the other kiddie tours are for, like Atticus Metal and Thrash and Burn? :confused:

7 years...son of a bitch. Why they do this?????

And HEY, Atticus Metal isn't always bad. Unearth headlined it last year. But I'll agree with you on Thrash and Burn..it's s shame they use the word "Thrash" for such a shitty tour.

jd091
03-14-2011, 11:22 AM
And HEY, Atticus Metal isn't always bad. Unearth headlined it last year. But I'll agree with you on Thrash and Burn..it's s shame they use the word "Thrash" for such a shitty tour.

I never said Atticus or Thrash were bad, just that they incorporate a specific genre of metal that isn't the genre Summer Slaughter set out to incorporate. Now that those types of bands are coming to define summer slaughter, fans of extreme and technical death metal feel very, very left out.

Nick_to_the_face
03-14-2011, 11:58 AM
I never said Atticus or Thrash were bad, just that they incorporate a specific genre of metal that isn't the genre Summer Slaughter set out to incorporate. Now that those types of bands are coming to define summer slaughter, fans of extreme and technical death metal feel very, very left out.

Seems like good tours and festivals are going down...Rocklahoma, which usually has some badass 80's bands, including Anthrax has switched over to Saving Abel, Theory of A Deadman shit...