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Blackened12
12-29-2010, 02:38 PM
Anybody else here as big of an MMA freak as I am?

mankvill
12-29-2010, 02:57 PM
Meatheadpummel is not a sport!

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 03:03 PM
Meatheadpummel is not a sport!

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/12/21/1890229/overreach-in-the-argument-about-mma-as-both-entertainment-and-sport

False my friend.

DethMaiden
12-29-2010, 03:16 PM
It's definitely a sport, it's just the worst one ever invented.

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 03:45 PM
It's definitely a sport, it's just the worst one ever invented.

Why do you say that?

JRA
12-29-2010, 03:47 PM
The MMA is to boxing what Mexicans were to white people.

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Wow lots of hate on this board lol. I don't understand it though, I think it's pretty much the perfect sport. I mean 2 guys in a cage using a blend of the best martial arts styles in the world to see who is the better man.On top of the fact that it's REALLY fun to watch.... how could you not at least appreciate that?

DethMaiden
12-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Wow lots of hate on this board lol. I don't understand it though, I think it's pretty much the perfect sport. I mean 2 guys in a cage using a blend of the best martial arts styles in the world to see who is the better man.On top of the fact that it's REALLY fun to watch.... how could you not at least appreciate that?

I could post a picture of a gaggle of douchebags in Affliction shirts, but I think the bolded portion says more than I ever could.

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 06:09 PM
I could post a picture of a gaggle of douchebags in Affliction shirts, but I think the bolded portion says more than I ever could.

If we downplay the importance of that highlighted portion than by default you downplay the very purpose of sports: competition. Putting forth more blood and sweat than your opponent, working harder to be the better player/fighter. Sure there are people who are going to take it too far (the douchebags who wear affliction and tapout everyday and fight in their backyards) but you're going to find that with any sport.

TonyD
12-29-2010, 06:25 PM
I could post a picture of a gaggle of douchebags in Affliction shirts, but I think the bolded portion says more than I ever could.

:rolleyes:
That has as much to do with the actual sport as Nike has to do with basketball.
You're crossing the line between intelligence and pretentiousness if you don't recognize that MMA is good sport.

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 06:40 PM
:rolleyes:
That has as much to do with the actual sport as Nike has to do with basketball.
You're crossing the line between intelligence and pretentiousness if you don't recognize that MMA is good sport.

This... BOOM

DethMaiden
12-29-2010, 08:11 PM
It doesn't appeal to me in any way, shape, or form. I'll leave it there. Maybe it has some social value, if so, I haven't seen it, but strictly as a sport I don't find it entertaining, and I find its fans (that I know of!) to be some of the worst people in the world.

But hey, I hate NASCAR and some other stuff too, and people seem to love it so more power to ya man.

JRA
12-29-2010, 08:20 PM
The thing about MMA and I suppose sports fights in general, is that the fights just don't seem that brutal. I watched a clip show of...I think it was top 10 most brutal knockout punches or something, and they all looked like love taps. I'm not accusing it of being fake or anything, but I was like "Really? That was the knockout punch?" Professional wrestling looks like it hurts more, and all that shit is choreographed!

Oh and too all of you who wish to respond "I bet if you were receiving the punch you wouldn't think it looks soft" go google image shitporn.

Blackened12
12-29-2010, 08:22 PM
Well that's different, I can't stand NASCAR but I can still appreciate the skill it takes to be a driver and I can understand how you can be into it if you like auo mechanics and such... but I still don't care for it lol. I've been doing martial arts my entire life and wrestle for my school, so this is something I'm actually very passionate about. Trust me I hate the people you're talking about just as much as you do :lol: Although I have been known to wear the occasional Affliction/TapOut shirt :eyes:

ChildrenofSodom
12-29-2010, 08:36 PM
I can't stand the bros in the TapOut and Ed Hardy shirts, but you'll find that with any sport. MMA is better than pro wrestling because 1) its real, 2) those guys train REALLY hard to get into the shape needed to put up with that, and 3) combat sports in general have impressive histories in most cultures. I bought The Pit Workout dvd with John Hackleman, and although I haven't done it yet, I know it is going to be a great workout because I've seen videos of how those guys train. They may be meatheads, bros, and jocks, but they work really hard and they've got conditioning and strength down to a science.

That being said, I don't really like the atmosphere of the sport, the whole "I'm more macho than you, I'm going to wail on you with every ounce of testosterone I possess to prove that I am better than you, look at that half naked girl with the round number card, lets get drunk and watch the fight." Its too low brow for me, but like I said, I respect the athletes.

ChildrenofSodom
12-29-2010, 09:01 PM
Oh and too all of you who wish to respond "I bet if you were receiving the punch you wouldn't think it looks soft" go google image shitporn.

:lol: This is hilarious. You should do stand up. I'm sure you'd kill.

street_burial
12-29-2010, 09:15 PM
yeah im a fan. Who's Your favorite fighter?

TonyD
12-29-2010, 09:28 PM
That being said, I don't really like the atmosphere of the sport, the whole "I'm more macho than you, I'm going to wail on you with every ounce of testosterone I possess to prove that I am better than you, look at that half naked girl with the round number card, lets get drunk and watch the fight." Its too low brow for me, but like I said, I respect the athletes.

That's the whole thing, I think you and Brad are perceiving this, have you ever been to even seen a non UFC fight?

ChildrenofSodom
12-29-2010, 09:38 PM
That's the whole thing, I think you and Brad are perceiving this, have you ever been to even seen a non UFC fight?

There are 'fight clubs' around where we live, and I've seen a few guys lifting at the YMCA wearing their t-shirts. Also, when I was younger, I went to a few MMA events called "The Tough Man Contest". So, yes...I have seen non-UFC fights.

And almost all sports that involve male competition in physical games boil down to testosterone and dominance.

mankvill
12-29-2010, 10:18 PM
I would 100% rather watch boxing/kickboxing than MMA. Taking your opponent to the ground? Pussies.

JRA
12-30-2010, 07:15 AM
:lol: This is hilarious. You should do stand up. I'm sure you'd kill.

:eyes:

Derelict
12-30-2010, 07:39 AM
There's a dude at work with a tapout tattoo on his arm. He looks like a mouthbreather.

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 12:18 PM
yeah im a fan. Who's Your favorite fighter?

I'm a huge fan of both GSP, Randy Couture,and Matt Hughes. Also like BJ Penn, Liddell (in his prime), and Fedor.

I'm also a closet Lesnar fan and I don't really like his attitude sometimes but I have alot of respect for Anderson Silva. I guess a wildcard would be Tyson Griffin.

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 12:20 PM
I would 100% rather watch boxing/kickboxing than MMA. Taking your opponent to the ground? Pussies.

You're joking right? :eyes:

mankvill
12-30-2010, 03:12 PM
You're joking right? :eyes:

Nope. Muhammad Ali is one of the gretaest athlete's of all time; these MMA jokers are just glorified street fighters.

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 08:05 PM
Nope. Muhammad Ali is one of the gretaest athlete's of all time; these MMA jokers are just glorified street fighters.

These "glorified street fighters" happen to be some of the greatest athletes in the world, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Not to mention if you've ever trained with any of the REAL athletes and not the poser douchebags they are very friendly and genuine people.

mankvill
12-30-2010, 08:15 PM
These "glorified street fighters" happen to be some of the greatest athletes in the world, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Not to mention if you've ever trained with any of the REAL athletes and not the poser douchebags they are very friendly and genuine people.

Not talking about them as people. I'm talking about the sport. If you say MMA is a sport, then two guys brawling in an alley is a sport. Only difference is that there's a guy to tell you when your opponent taps out.

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 08:29 PM
Not talking about them as people. I'm talking about the sport. If you say MMA is a sport, then two guys brawling in an alley is a sport. Only difference is that there's a guy to tell you when your opponent taps out.

What is a sport but organized physical competition? It's organized, it's physical, and it's competition. And if you ask me there really isn't a better sport out there. You don't have any team to hide behind and no one to blame but yourself if you win or lose. One man vs another to see who is better, how can you not love that?!

mankvill
12-30-2010, 08:36 PM
What is a sport but organized physical competition? It's organized, it's physical, and it's competition. And if you ask me there really isn't a better sport out there. You don't have any team to hide behind and no one to blame but yourself if you win or lose. One man vs another to see who is better, how can you not love that?!

If seeing two guys bludgeon eachother in anyway they can makes you think it's the best sport, more power to you. I like a little more finesse in my "combat" sports. To me, there's a reason boxing is called "The Sweet Science."

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 08:43 PM
If seeing two guys bludgeon eachother in anyway they can makes you think it's the best sport, more power to you. I like a little more finesse in my "combat" sports. To me, there's a reason boxing is called "The Sweet Science."


So every MMA fight ends with someone maimed and seriously injured? Please... martial arts as a whole has the lowest injury rate of any other sport out there. If that's your argument than football is as inhumane as anything because God knows how many people have been seriously injured playing football. But it's very rare to see professional fights where the fighters are seriously hurt, its very regulated now and nothing like you make it out to be. And really, boxing is simply just an underutilization of physical potential, as it is only a part of the overall picture of mixed martial arts. To say boxing is okay but MMA isn't is almost ignorant.

mankvill
12-30-2010, 08:49 PM
I think your post might have gotten jacked up a bit trying to post, but I kinda understand what you're saying. :lol:

But, like...in boxing, when some guy lands a huge hit on another, he goes down and the ref is right there to back him off and do a count.

In MMA, the first reaction on a guy who's seeing stars and laying on the ground is to go right at him and pound his fucking face in until his eye is bruised shut. That, or just put your opponent in an armbar until they give up. MMA is so boring and ultra-fucking barbaric to me.

People have been injured playing football, but they have protection. They have pads and helmets and all that. Boxers have gloves and you can't hit below the belt. For MMA, you can get a flying fucking knee to the face. It's just a street fight (to me) and that's just not fun to watch.

Blackened12
12-30-2010, 09:01 PM
I guess I can kind of see where you're coming from, but what I guess what you're just not getting is the passion behind it. If you've never experienced one on one combat competition before it's very hard to describe. What's great about mma us that you have every weapon the human body is capable of (almost). As far as protection goes, anything besides the gloves would only hamper what the fighters are able to do. Helmets/headgear would rule out chokes, other padding would make groundfighting and wrestling very hard to execute.

ChildrenofSodom
12-30-2010, 11:44 PM
Not talking about them as people. I'm talking about the sport. If you say MMA is a sport, then two guys brawling in an alley is a sport. Only difference is that there's a guy to tell you when your opponent taps out.

If I nailed a pick-a-nick basket to my garage and got some buddies together and we all tried to throw a cantaloupe into it, would that be a sport? No, but it sounds a lot like basketball.

Blackened12
12-31-2010, 07:08 AM
If I nailed a pick-a-nick basket to my garage and got some buddies together and we all tried to throw a cantaloupe into it, would that be a sport? No, but it sounds a lot like basketball.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::party::party::D

mankvill
12-31-2010, 02:10 PM
If I nailed a pick-a-nick basket to my garage and got some buddies together and we all tried to throw a cantaloupe into it, would that be a sport? No, but it sounds a lot like basketball.

ah yes, CantaBall

ChildrenofSodom
02-14-2011, 12:19 PM
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I bought The Pit workout DVD set with John Hackelman. I haven't done it yet, but I plan on doing it in a few weeks here. Question: why do MMA people wear ill-fitting shirts? It seems like you either have to have a skin tight shirt or one that is two sizes too big. Buy your size, guys.

ChildrenofSodom
02-14-2011, 12:33 PM
Also, there is a part in the lower leg workout where you jump rope for a few minutes. One girl doesn't have a rope, and the instructor says "Christina over there has the invisible rope, for those of you who don't have a jump rope or only have one arm and can't use a jump rope."

Who the fuck has one arm and wants to do MMA? I don't doubt that there are a few people out there like that, but was that a necessary consideration in the video? :lol:

Div
02-14-2011, 01:24 PM
im kind of the opposite here. im actually interested in street fighting more than cage matches because of the rules. imo fighting has a time and place, and to put rules on someone just undermines the whole thing altogether. for example, people who do boxing might know how to win a fight in the ring, but on the street their training is pretty much useless because they train to fight according to a certain set of rules, whereas on the street your opponent doesnt.

as far as entertainment goes, mma is boring to watch because its almost always two guys landing a few punches and then it resorts to wrestling. some people might think its interesting to watch two half naked dudes rolling around ontop of each other, but id rather see someone get knocked out with strikes instead of just giving up out of physical exhaustion.

Blackened12
03-01-2011, 04:49 PM
I've never really thought of it from the perspective of someone who isn't really part if the sport themselves, I mean I wrestle for my school and have been doing martial arts since I was 5.... so I can respect what they do because I myself have done it.

hinder5050
05-01-2011, 05:20 PM
i freaking love mma and order every fight i can:rocker::rocker:

ChildrenofSodom
06-05-2011, 12:35 PM
Bump. I just did a week of George St. Pierre's Rushfit workout program. Recommend it 110%. It is very intense, under an hour each day, and there are a lot of new moves for folks who are used to the traditional exercise regimes.