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idrinkwine732
12-17-2010, 10:55 PM
I'd like to start my own totally narcissistic thread with a story.

I remember when I got to metalsetlists for the first time and I was thinking, boy, these guys really get into the whole list thing. Now look at me. Look what you people have done to me.

In this thread I'll be reviewing some lists of best live acts, my top 50 albums, best cover art and some other cool stuff along the way. You guys know the deal, don't let me get away with a bad placement and feel free to say that Cloudkicker or any other band is awesome.

Natrlhi
12-17-2010, 10:59 PM
..feel free to say that Cloudkicker or any other band is awesome.Cloudkicker IS fucking awesome, regardles of anything else you may choose to say or not say when this thread gets off the ground. ;)

treghet
12-17-2010, 11:02 PM
I remember when I got to metalsetlists for the first time and I was thinking, boy, these guys really get into the whole list thing. Now look at me. Look what you people have done to me.

I thought the same thing in my lurking days, but now I'm working on my list too. :D

MPF
12-17-2010, 11:09 PM
Hell look what I did with my thread. I reviewed every album I bought this year! I probably wouldn't have if not for all the list threads last year.

Looking forward to seeing your top 50.

idrinkwine732
12-17-2010, 11:35 PM
So...the long countdown starts...

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Arsis%20-%20Starve%20For%20The%20Devil%20-%20CD.jpg
50. Arsis - Starve for the Devil

It feels so wrong to put this album this low, and if you had asked me where this would place before it was released, I'd have said top 20. Unfortunately, it deserves to be here. I think technical death metal can be pulled off with some focus, something bands like Brain Drill just can't do, and is what made Celebration of Guilt fucking awesome and We Are the Nightmare just okay. Arsis put some focus back in there, but not to the point to make me jump for joy. It makes me sad to see such fantastic artists put out some so-so at best work.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Annihilator%20-%20Annihilator%20-%20CD.jpg
49. Annihilator - Annihilator

Let it be known that I am a huge admirer of Jeff Waters. His work on Alison Hell is brilliant and he never is mentioned enough in the "lol who is the best metal guitarist lol" conversation. But just like Arsis lack focus, Annihilator's latest work just lacks something interesting. I could always find something nice to say about Metal and some of the other later Annihilator, but I can't bring myself to do it this time.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/October%20Falls%20-%20A%20Collapse%20Of%20Faith%20-%20CD.jpg
48. October Falls - A Collapse of Faith

There are a ton of people I know that will swear by this album. They consider it to be genius. I however, see this as just a dude making some bland as shit metal. It seems as if there are like four riffs throughout the whole album, and no matter what anyone says, without variance or any type of change, I'm going to be bored. I feel like there was an aesthetic here that Lehto was trying to hit but fell short.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Orphaned%20Land%20-%20The%20Never%20Ending%20Way%20Of%20ORwarriOR%20-%20CD.jpg
47. Orphaned Land - The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR

Here's the part where albums break the meh to slightly good barrier. Slightly good is exactly how I'd describe this album to somebody. It's pretty damn simple, it's got some cool influences, and it won't blow your mind. I think some parts sound like they're skipping due to over-repeating, but in the end, Orphaned Land didn't do anything bad with this album. With that said, they're capable of a lot more.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Darkthrone%20-%20Circle%20The%20Wagons%20-%20CD.jpg
46. Darkthrone - Circle the Wagons

I'm generally in the camp of people that are attracted to a punkish Darkthrone in concept, but not really in practice. It shocks me that this is the same band that made Transilvanian Hunger. Circle the Wagons is a cool album, but not a cool Darkthrone album. If they were a fresh new band on the scene, maybe I could get behind it a bit more, but Darkthrone is forever doomed to be judged like Darkthrone.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Coffinworm%20-%20When%20All%20Became%20None%20-%20CD.jpg
45. Coffinworm - When All Became None

Here's an album that was completely off of my radar going into the year. Brad recommended it to me, and unlike everything else he likes (;)) it was pretty good. I thought the writing was mighty dandy and I thought that the album as a whole was fairly well done, but I just couldn't get behind the production. The drums just sounded sickening (in a bad way). The guitar sound is the noise equivalent of some undercooked scrambled eggs. The whole album sounded completely off to me. I feel like with a mighty good production job this album could have jumped up a dozen spots or so.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Trident%20-%20World%20Destruction%20-%20CD.jpg
44. Trident - World Destruction

This album came to me through a rec I got online, and once I heard Trident had Necrophobic and Dissection members, I was sold. I was thinking I'd get a totally gnarly blackened death album, but I was a little disappointed. They seemed to trade off ripping off all of their old bands, which actually isn't a dreadful idea, but the whole album seemed stale. This is probably the only time in my entire life that I will say that a Necrophobic/Dissection mix wouldn't be a good thing, but that's what World Destruction is.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Black%20Tusk%20-%20Taste%20The%20Sin%20-%20CD.jpg
43. Black Tusk - Taste the Sin

Sludge band with some chunky ass riffs? I'm down. However, execution is again not this band's specialty. I think Black Tusk came really close with Taste the Sin, and played a Kylesa-ish band role very well. They get a really awesome sound a few songs in, but like Kylesa, they don't have a ton of versatility. Still, a great album to rock every now and then.

http://www.thehousecorestore.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Warbeast%20copy.jpg
42. Warbeast - Krush the Enemy

As a non-fan of Pantera, it would be very easy for me to dismiss a lot of the bands that the Anselmo lovers like to check out. However, I was assured that the new Warbeast was a damn good album and fortunately they were correct. They bring in some awesome slower thrash riffs here and there. Also, although it's weird because of how coarse they sound, Bruce Corbitt's vocals are quite refreshing. Warbeast aren't a band like Vektor. They won't reinvent the wheel any time soon. I know there are a ton of bands like that, but I think there's room for one more.

http://www.code7decoded.com/uploads/albums/1269387404-photos%20nov%202009%20mar%202010%20096.jpg
41. Svarti Loghin - Drifting Through the Void

Here we go! Our first really good album of the year. Svarti Loghin have a really awesome atmosphere about them and their sound is truly unique. They have a spacey black metalish sound that reminds of Alcest at parts but never strays into the shoegaze territory that Alcest does. Without the dragging and muddy sections of the middle and a continuation of some of the better parts of the album, this could be a top 15 album. I'll be watching their future with a ton of interest.


These reviews will get longer when I have more nice things to say :cool:.

DethMaiden
12-17-2010, 11:40 PM
http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Coffinworm%20-%20When%20All%20Became%20None%20-%20CD.jpg
45. Coffinworm - When All Became None

Here's an album that was completely off of my radar going into the year. Brad recommended it to me, and unlike everything else he likes (;)) it was pretty good. I thought the writing was mighty dandy and I thought that the album as a whole was fairly well done, but I just couldn't get behind the production. The drums just sounded sickening (in a bad way). The guitar sound is the noise equivalent of some undercooked scrambled eggs. The whole album sounded completely off to me. I feel like with a mighty good production job this album could have jumped up a dozen spots or so.


WOT'S ALL THIS THEN :mad:

;) Nah, glad you (kinda) dug the album. I actually love the production, the album basically reminds me of EyeHateGod doing black metal. But hey, to each his own!

idrinkwine732
12-17-2010, 11:47 PM
WOT'S ALL THIS THEN :mad:

;) Nah, glad you (kinda) dug the album. I actually love the production, the album basically reminds me of EyeHateGod doing black metal. But hey, to each his own!

I feel like production tends to be one of the more subjective parts of listening to metal, especially black and death. For every guy who wants a nice crisp black metal sound you get a guy who wants a really lo-fi production. I totally hear the Eyehategod in the production, but I feel like that production sound works best for a sludge band. When it works, it works, but when it doesn't it really doesn't.

Natrlhi
12-17-2010, 11:54 PM
http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Arsis%20-%20Starve%20For%20The%20Devil%20-%20CD.jpg
50. Arsis - Starve for the Devil

It feels so wrong to put this album this low, and if you had asked me where this would place before it was released, I'd have said top 20. Unfortunately, it deserves to be here. I think technical death metal can be pulled off with some focus, something bands like Brain Drill just can't do, and is what made Celebration of Guilt fucking awesome and We Are the Nightmare just okay. Arsis put some focus back in there, but not to the point to make me jump for joy. It makes me sad to see such fantastic artists put out some so-so at best work.

http://black-legion-shop.de/catalog/images/Black%20Tusk%20-%20Taste%20The%20Sin%20-%20CD.jpg
43. Black Tusk - Taste the Sin

Sludge band with some chunky ass riffs? I'm down. However, execution is again not this band's specialty. I think Black Tusk came really close with Taste the Sin, and played a Kylesa-ish band role very well. They get a really awesome sound a few songs in, but like Kylesa, they don't have a ton of versatility. Still, a great album to rock every now and then.
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/9/128680313941344228.jpg

idrinkwine732
12-17-2010, 11:57 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/9/128680313941344228.jpg

http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/1233087185.jpg

Natrlhi
12-17-2010, 11:59 PM
^ :lol:

larvtard
12-18-2010, 08:36 AM
I feel like production tends to be one of the more subjective parts of listening to metal, especially black and death. For every guy who wants a nice crisp black metal sound you get a guy who wants a really lo-fi production.

I guess I'm one of those who doesn't "get" the low-fi production in black metal. It doesn't make any logical sense to me why bands would want to do that.

That being said, the other day I was listening to some Satanic Warmaster on myspace, and I finally understood the "atmopshere" concept. The loudest, most dominant thing I heard in the mix was the atmosphere (kinda sounded like Agalloch, actually), and buried way under that was the actual guitar and drums. I didn't really dig that concept, but I can see other people digging it.

But most black metal bands I listen to don't even achieve that type of atmosphere. It just sounds like they're using shitty production so that they can save money to spend on copies of the Satanic Bible or whatever. A good example is Black Witchery. I downloaded their 2000 album, I think, and it sounded awesome on my computer. Then I synced it to my iPod and played in the car, and it sounded so weak. That really pissed me off.

Sorry about that long rant. I had to get it out somewhere, and this thread seemed like an okay place to do that.

jhdeity
12-18-2010, 09:58 AM
I guess I'm one of those who doesn't "get" the low-fi production in black metal. It doesn't make any logical sense to me why bands would want to do that.

That being said, the other day I was listening to some Satanic Warmaster on myspace, and I finally understood the "atmopshere" concept. The loudest, most dominant thing I heard in the mix was the atmosphere (kinda sounded like Agalloch, actually), and buried way under that was the actual guitar and drums. I didn't really dig that concept, but I can see other people digging it.

But most black metal bands I listen to don't even achieve that type of atmosphere. It just sounds like they're using shitty production so that they can save money to spend on copies of the Satanic Bible or whatever. A good example is Black Witchery. I downloaded their 2000 album, I think, and it sounded awesome on my computer. Then I synced it to my iPod and played in the car, and it sounded so weak. That really pissed me off.

Sorry about that long rant. I had to get it out somewhere, and this thread seemed like an okay place to do that.

Well said. Personally Burzum - Belus would never sniff my Top 20 because of the muddy production. I did wonder how great that cd could be if it didn't sound like it was recorded in Quorthon's basement back in 1984...

ShatteredFlame
12-18-2010, 10:10 AM
I guess I'm one of those who doesn't "get" the low-fi production in black metal. It doesn't make any logical sense to me why bands would want to do that.

Pretty much agreed. There is a reason why a lot of "classic" black metal sounds the way it does, they weren't exactly the richest people ever. Now it's like black metal bands get signed to labels. They could have a decent production but want to sound DIY prob to keep the "trve" black metal spirit. It's all a joke. If you want to pump out a lo-fi record DO IT YOURSELF!!!

DethMaiden
12-18-2010, 10:34 AM
Gotta disagree with the three above posts, but oh well. :lol:

jhdeity
12-18-2010, 11:05 AM
Gotta disagree with the three above posts, but oh well. :lol:

That's cool. Obviously they did it on purpose. Any idiot with protools can make a better sounding cd. At some point it just becomes schtick though. The opening track with the popping record... that's never been done before...

Obviously they were was trying to copy Bathory circa 1984 and if that's what you like, he did a great job. I just don't see the point. The drums literally sound like cardboard

DethMaiden
12-18-2010, 11:08 AM
Well, I'm not specifically gonna defend the production on the Burzum record; I didn't have a problem with it but I also didn't think the songwriting was all that great. I'm just saying in general I put a lot of faith in bands with their production and if a real raw sound is what they think gets the material across the best (like on the new Satanic Warmaster, for example) then that's what I wanna hear.

idrinkwine732
12-19-2010, 10:22 PM
http://www.angrymetalguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Equilibrium-Rekreatur-300x300.jpg
40. Equilibrium - Rekreatur

I can't stand the word epic. Maybe that makes me an outcast in my age group, but it's true. However, Equilibrium made the term "epic" really fit their music with Rekreatur. Most other bands like Equilibrium can't really keep my attention because I'm just no fan of keys, but they made them work for me. Maybe it's the deep growls that reminded me of death metal, or the guitar tone they got that made it more accessible to me. But most importantly, the way Equilibrium used the keys on this album makes me a lot more interested to check them out extensively.


http://hangout.altsounds.com/geek/gars/images/2/unleashed.jpg
39. Unleashed - As Yggdrasil Trembles

I fucking had this album at #48 on Thursday. I was writing my review for it while listening and went, "y'know, this is better than I thought it was," and made a very appropriate adjustment. I don't know what I was listening to the first time around. Unleashed really bring the heavy with Yggdrasil but write a few really good hooks and some killer melodic riffs along the way.


http://hangout.altsounds.com/geek/gars/images/2/finntroll.jpg
38. Finntroll - Nifelvind

I look at Finntroll a lot like I look at RC cola. It's fantastic for a change of pace, but it's not something you want to have all the time. I really like the whole blackened folk sound they have going on, and since this album is fairly consistent at giving you those type of tunes, it's worth a fairly good spot. They bring the viking ish sort of sound with the chants in songs like Solsagan and an element that has since become cliched, but still welcome. A fine album.


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qLuS1nbY10ia_M:http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6178/howlfullofhell.jpg&t=1
37. Howl - Full of Hell

I fell asleep to this album the first time I heard it, feeling as if it wasn't too different from the Black Tusks of the world. I was assured that this was a good album, so I gave it another shot. I was thinking, "This is alright, sort of good." when I was going through the first few tracks, but then I heard something in Jezebel that made me think I should just start over again. I really liked it. Howl are a band that wear their influences on their sleeves but still make it work. They grab the chunky riffs that Taste the Sin had and brought some more variety into the equation. Full of Hell is What Taste the Sin was trying to be.


http://www.metalkingdom.net/album/img/d11/25760.jpg
36. Nevermore - The Obsidian Conspiracy

There is a demand for an accessible metal band like Nevermore. Something that can bring the heavy riffs and can still be easy on the ears and have soaring clean vocals. The Obsidian Conspiracy joins its predecessor, This Godless Endeavor, at the right hand of the throne in this regard. With possible exception to the aforementioned This Godless Endeavor, Loomis and Dane give their best performances on their respective instruments. Loomis acheives an incredible tone on this album. I wish I enjoyed this style of music more, because the work on this album is really something to be loved.


http://metalasfuck.net/zine/sites/default/files/imagecache/medium/nachtmystium_addictsBlkMedd.jpg
35. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II

Nachtmystium are a band that fascinates me. They have the ability to create your occasional awesome song and at the exact same time manage to have some really shitty ones as well. Brad once described some of their songs as "her der lets put a saxophone here" sort of work. I somewhat agree, but I believe that Addicts has a few better parts than their previous albums. Not something that I would play frequently, but it was a really cool listen those first few times.


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34. Cardiac Arrest - Haven for the Insane

Ever since I noticed a difference in sound between Bloodbath's Resurrection Through Carnage and Nightmares Made Flesh, I've been looking for a band who can recreate that feeling. Haven For the Insane really made me know that I have found an admirable replacement. They have that chainsaw tone that Resurrection made me love and the connections could go on forever. This album had a small production issue with the way the drums sounded in my opinion, but outside of that, this is some of the best Bloodbath worship I've heard.


http://allmetalresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/OverkillIronbound-300x300.jpg
33. Overkill - Ironbound

It wouldn't be a year of metal without one album from that band that was good a long time ago that has sort of sucked but now is good again. In the era of re-thrash, we began to forget that some older bands were still waving the flag. Megadeth with Endgame is a prime example and Overkill with Ironbound is a fine runner up. The riffs aren't special, but they're fresh enough to keep the genre alive. The tone that Overkill achieves on this album is stellar and Blitz puts on his best vocal performance in a long time. An album that will go underrated for some time but that will not deteriorate its value.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yUFf_iEXTCw/S4gqI2pvhgI/AAAAAAAAAE8/ceeI5GUkB-M/s320/kalmah-12_gauge.jpg
32. Kalmah - 12 Gauge

This album had a similar path as the new Unleashed. It sat for some time in the back part of my list, yet upon final examination, yielded a very fine result. I first heard of Kalmah maybe a year and a half ago and expected them to be an Insomnium-esque band. While the melodeath side certainly is strong, I did not expect them to be so heavy. 12 Gauge was a continuation of a fantastic sort of heavy branded melodic death metal. The album tears through consistently and at a relentless rate. Really an album to behold.


http://metalwarez.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hail-Of-Bullets-On-Divine-Winds-2010.jpg
31. Hail of Bullets - On Divine Winds

For an album that received a ton of flak for not being up to par with its predecessor, this is a damn fine album. I would have been blown away if Hail of Bullets had made a masterpiece like Of Frost and War, and truthfully was quite surprised at how good Warsaw Rising was. I've heard so much complaining about On Divine Winds that people forget how similar to Warsaw Rising it really is. There is no great departure from sound on this album, and is an album chock full of heavy buzzsaw riffs that made Of Frost and War so awesome. Van Drunen delivers a vocal performance inferior to his past work yet not to the point where it detracts from the album's total value. Fine work from the Dutch supergroup.

treghet
12-19-2010, 10:38 PM
Rekreatur was one of my biggest disappointments of the year. To me, it was bland and nowhere near as "epic" as Sagas. And as for the Hail of Bullets album, I thought it was spectacular; maybe it's not as great as the first release, but it doesn't deserve any complaining.

idrinkwine732
12-19-2010, 10:51 PM
Rekreatur was one of my biggest disappointments of the year. To me, it was bland and nowhere near as "epic" as Sagas.
Had it been Sagas, it would have placed higher, but I thought it was only slightly under it in epicness. It was my second exposure to Equilibrium, and it really sounded great.

And as for the Hail of Bullets album, I thought it was spectacular; maybe it's not as great as the first release, but it doesn't deserve any complaining.

You are the first person to have agreed with me. Really a great album.

MPF
12-19-2010, 10:56 PM
You are the first person to have agreed with me. Really a great album.


You read my review right? I love the album as well.

DethMaiden
12-19-2010, 10:57 PM
By the way, I can't wait until you get jaded. ;) A top 50 and you think 41 of them are "really good?" Bahaha. I heard around 75 this year and would only wholeheartedly recommend maybe 30-35. :lol:

idrinkwine732
12-19-2010, 11:14 PM
You read my review right? I love the album as well.

:eyes:

I didn't see your review on this one, actually.

By the way, I can't wait until you get jaded. ;) A top 50 and you think 41 of them are "really good?" Bahaha. I heard around 75 this year and would only wholeheartedly recommend maybe 30-35. :lol:

I listened to around 80 and I think I got a great crop this year. Maybe "really good" is a little bit of an overstatement, but my spectrum of adjectives is really wide :finger:. The truth is that I thought all of my top 20 were good enough to be in my top 10. The difference in quality between 20 and 10 isn't enormous.

DethMaiden
12-19-2010, 11:17 PM
I listened to around 80 and I think I got a great crop this year. Maybe "really good" is a little bit of an overstatement, but my spectrum of adjectives is really wide :finger:. The truth is that I thought all of my top 20 were good enough to be in my top 10. The difference in quality between 20 and 10 isn't enormous.

Ah, I did not know you listened to thirty that didn't make the cut. I thought 50 was your worst and by 41 you loved them. :lol:

MPF
12-19-2010, 11:19 PM
:eyes:

I didn't see your review on this one, actually.

:bouville::bouville::bouville:


:D

It's all good. If you check out the first post of my thread, it's the first album reviewed.

idrinkwine732
12-19-2010, 11:33 PM
Ah, I did not know you listened to thirty that didn't make the cut. I thought 50 was your worst and by 41 you loved them. :lol:
Oh believe me...I listened to some bad albums. If you read the entirety of my new BMTH interview, you'd want to read some postivism.
:bouville::bouville::bouville:
:D
It's all good. If you check out the first post of my thread, it's the first album reviewed.
I'm on it.

Wizzbang11
12-19-2010, 11:57 PM
That being said, the other day I was listening to some Satanic Warmaster on myspace, and I finally understood the "atmopshere" concept. The loudest, most dominant thing I heard in the mix was the atmosphere (kinda sounded like Agalloch, actually), and buried way under that was the actual guitar and drums. I didn't really dig that concept, but I can see other people digging it.

But most black metal bands I listen to don't even achieve that type of atmosphere. It just sounds like they're using shitty production so that they can save money to spend on copies of the Satanic Bible or whatever. A good example is Black Witchery. I downloaded their 2000 album, I think, and it sounded awesome on my computer. Then I synced it to my iPod and played in the car, and it sounded so weak. That really pissed me off.


Very little of that makes sense to me.

I need to hear that Cardiac Arrest album, I've only heard awesome reviews of it.

idrinkwine732
12-20-2010, 12:12 AM
Ah, I did not know you listened to thirty that didn't make the cut. I thought 50 was your worst and by 41 you loved them. :lol:

If Arsis was the worst album I listened to all year, I'd be ecstatic.

JLRedWing13
12-20-2010, 12:19 AM
This is a pretty anticlimatic thread for me since I know where it's going. :lol: Nevertheless, it's good to hear more detailed explanations. I think I had Orphaned Land about 15-20 spots higher, but considering it started number one on my list, it's still quite a drop. :P

idrinkwine732
12-20-2010, 01:00 AM
This is a pretty anticlimatic thread for me since I know where it's going. :lol: Nevertheless, it's good to hear more detailed explanations. I think I had Orphaned Land about 15-20 spots higher, but considering it started number one on my list, it's still quite a drop. :P

You stay hushed on that #1, it's going to surprise a ton of people ;)

Natrlhi
12-20-2010, 07:00 AM
You are the first person to have agreed with me. Really a great album.Well then, I am the second.

EDIT: Now that I've read MPF's posts, make that the third. :fist:

JLRedWing13
12-20-2010, 09:22 AM
You stay hushed on that #1, it's going to surprise a ton of people ;)
I'm sure no one would ever guess. :X

idrinkwine732
12-20-2010, 04:07 PM
Before I dive straight into my top 30, I'll change the pace a bit and put up my favorite album arts. Keep in mind, this is all the album art, not the album itself. This will also destroy any preconceived notions that analyzing art is my forté.

http://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2010-05/1273172054_god-is-an-astronaut-age-of-the-fifth-sun-2010.jpg

10. God is an Astronaut - Age of the Fifth Sun

Age of the Fifth Sun's album art is something that really speaks to me. I'm a huge fan of landscape photography and painting as long as it captures something interesting. The cool painting-ish feel of this work really captures what I thought the album was going for. I see an obscured horizon with mountains and some clouds in the distance on what looks like a sunset. Interestingly enough, the opener, Worlds in Collision, seems like the soundtrack to whatever is happening here. It's right up my alley, not becoming overdone with symbolism or anything else. Just a cool looking cover.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:AV2L-XRHMUDOoM:http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3885/alcestnew.jpg&t=1
9. Alcest - Écailles De Lune

I feel like Niege and Alcest really had something in mind when they were looking for artwork for Écailles De Lune. I feel like the cover displays the melancholy and mood of the album very well. It also maintains some subtlety with it. It took me looking at the booklet itself to notice that the scene seems to be underwater. Call it me being picky, but I'm really glad they kept the logo in there, too. Alcest have such an artfully done logo that it really deserves to be in every album art they make. I feel like it wraps the artwork together pretty well at the center and the rule of thirds sort of demands it gets paid attention to. Artwork just as well done as the album itself.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qLuS1nbY10ia_M:http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6178/howlfullofhell.jpg&t=1

8. Howl - Full of Hell

This is some artwork that hits you straight in the mouth. Boom, this guy's mouth is filled with fucking fire. All that aside, I think this is some of the cooler artwork because it strays from a "let's be all artsy and symbolic with our artwork." While I do like to analyze stuff further than it is supposed to, that is a nice change. I'm still a little bit confused by some things about it like the eyes around the skeleton as well as what looks like eyes of light in the skeleton's eye sockets. Something really cool is going on here, and while I may not have it all figured out, it's certainly cool to look at.

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7. Agalloch - The Marrow of the Spirit

John Haughm once described The Mantle as an album that should symbolize a journey to survive in the wilderness and avoiding hypothermia and death. Agalloch seemed to continue desiring that atmosphere in their music, but in their artwork for Marrow of the Spirit I feel they captured it perfectly. An icy landscape with what must be a near frozen river winding the foreground. This is something that perfectly captures what Haughm and Agalloch were going for with this album. There is something weird going on here though, because I feel like there is another image being overlayed on top of it, but I can't really tell if it is. I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to be focused on in the top half and it confuses me a bit. With that said, it's rare that an album art captures an album as well as this.

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6. Slough Feg - The Animal Spirits

I nearly didn't put these two together purely because I don't like the way how spirit is the last word in both of them. But that's irrelevant. On first glance, this art appears to be just a sketch of a priest, nothing more. But when I picked up The Animal Spirits at the record store, I realized that it was more than that. His eyes appear almost raven-like. His forehead is divided, giving him a seemingly constant snarl. He appears to have no ears. His nose is odd shaped and out of proportion. All of these things could be attributed to poor art, but Slough Feg must have done this deliberately. He looks like an animal. I really like a sense of subtlety in my artwork, so it really spoke to me.

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5. Hellish Crossfire - Bloodrust Scythe

Ah, art that reflects not beauty but satanic brilliance. It is an artwork that seems to be welcoming you into the hellish storm that you are about to experience. The reaper standing next to the pentagram extending out his hand to draw you into satanic death thrash awesomeness. I love the whole thing. From the rams skull on the left to the weird cloud formation at the top. No diversity on the color spectrum. Just blood red and orange. No subtlety that I would otherwise love. It just grabs you into the album. This is just an ugly brutal cover that is perfect for the type of music that it represents.

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4. Hour of Penance - Paradogma

Just like Bloodrust Scythe, this is an album art that hits you straight in the face. Unlike Bloodrust Scythe however, Paradogma seems a little bit smarter about it. It does have some subtlety. I love so much about this artwork that I don't really know where to start. The statue of Mary crying tears of blood while a red storm of death destroys the church around her. I feel like perspective is really important here, because if they had just shown this from a zoomed out view it wouldn't have had the same effect. I feel like the church is about to crumble on top of me, and that must be exactly what Hour of Penance wanted. I'm unsure as to what the birds/people are at the bottom, but it appears that they are calmly looking onto the apocalyptic scene in front of them. Really a wonderful piece of art.

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3. Blind Guardian - At the Edge of Time

As you will read in my review of the album, At the Edge of Time was my first exposure to Blind Guardian. Before I even decided to check out the album though, I was captured by this art. It seems so ominous while the palace or temple behind the statue gives off a feeling of majesty. Upon further examination though, I realized that this art is nearly perfectly symmetrical, even down to what hands the guards use to hold their weapons and the lighting on the background. I don't know why that's important, but it was cool to me. The whole feeling of the artwork made me want to check out the album even more, and it really fit the puzzle for a Blind Guardian album.

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2. Overkill - Ironbound

This may be because of how disappointed I have been with past Overkill albums. I find a lot of them to be lame and really uninspired. I was particularly disappointed with the last two, but this one is really great. The bat (I've been told his name is Chaly) made of iron on top of a fire. For some reason whenever I listen to Ironbound, I get a sense of manufacturing. Not in a "loltheydidallofthisinthestudiolol" way, but a feeling that they wanted their album to sound like a steel plant...in a good way. The sense of fire prevails in the music as well as the artwork. It feels good to like an Overkill cover again.


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1. Martriden - Encounter the Monolith

Let me explain. Encounter the Monolith is a concept album on 2001: A Space Odyssey, which chronicles human advancement through time. As humankind progresses, they find these symbolic monoliths, marking a turning point in human advancement. I love this artwork because it is just so complete. It is connected with the theme of the album, it is cool to look at and it is completely original. The rectangular monolith eclipsing a solar eclipse. That's cool. I can't help but be reminded of the Kubrick film, when the chimps all first discover the monolith and then later in the film when Floyd finds the second on the moon. This artwork really hit home for me, and it connected so well with the lyrical matter. It almost made the ending of the film make sense. Almost.

El Gordo
12-20-2010, 05:49 PM
Nice reviews of the artwork, dude. It's pretty clear that you're as passionate about the artwork as you are about the music, if not more. I've always felt that album art is a big part of the metal experience, more so than with other forms of music.

larvtard
12-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Very little of that makes sense to me.


Go on.

Kudos on the Cardiac Arrest record, man. They've got one of the coolest death metal guitar tones/styles Ive ever heard. Sadly, not enough memorable songs.

jhdeity
12-20-2010, 07:41 PM
Great review on Martriden even if it was only intended for the artwork. Currently 11th on my underrated list and moves up my overall list with every listen

idrinkwine732
12-20-2010, 07:52 PM
Kudos on the Cardiac Arrest record, man. They've got one of the coolest death metal guitar tones/styles Ive ever heard. Sadly, not enough memorable songs.

I hear that. I think it's a great album as a cohesive piece, but there are few parts that make me go "I want to listen to that again."

larvtard
12-21-2010, 08:01 PM
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7. Agalloch - The Marrow of the Spirit

There is something weird going on here though, because I feel like there is another image being overlayed on top of it, but I can't really tell if it is. I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to be focused on in the top half and it confuses me a bit.


I notice that as well. Bad photoshop job? I'm guessing that both images are part of the same landscape, but the upper image does look like its cut-and-pasted really carelessly.

DethMaiden
12-21-2010, 08:05 PM
^ Scalzi sketched the cover of the Animal Spirits himself, it was supposed to look really raw and primitive.

idrinkwine732
12-21-2010, 08:49 PM
^ Scalzi sketched the cover of the Animal Spirits himself, it was supposed to look really raw and primitive.

He succeeded. A really awesome artwork while not being all blood and guts and skeletons and guns and blood and guts. Not that I think Slough Feg will ever go that direction.

idrinkwine732
12-23-2010, 11:25 AM
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30. Hour of Penance - Paradogma

Boy did I luck out with this one. I really liked Behemoth's Evangelion and found myself hungry for some new Behemoth material. Instead, I got Paradogma. This band screams Behemoth from the get go. I mean, it's at the point where if Nergal did a guest spot on their next album, it shouldn't be called an Hour of Penance song. You have your very Inferno esque drumming going on the whole way and the guitarwork is really reminiscent of Demigod/Zos Kia Cultus. Towards the end of the album they stray from the classic Behemoth sound though, which is a welcomed change. They close the album with the absolutely MASSIVE Apotheosis, and I feel like it's the soundtrack to the chaotic events of the album art. An excellent effort. It's a shame almost the entire band had to leave after its release.

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29. A Silver Mt. Zion - Kollaps Tradixionales

Ah, my first nonmetal album on the list. It's tough reviewing post-rock because there's only so much you can say. With that said, I'm going to try my best. ASMZ is a side-project of Godspeed You! Black Emperor guitarist Efrim Menuck, that is in a similar mold as GY!BE. However, the work is a lot more guitar oriented and features vocals. I think A Silver Mt. Zion created a fine effort with this album, creating some of their most intriguing songs such as Piphany Rambler and There Is A Light. The opening of the album is a really cool scene, starting with some ambient sounding guitar work and a siren-ish vocal part. One thing that always stopped me from fully enjoying their discography was the inability to know the mood of their own song, but Efrim and Co. really got it down this time. My only complaint is that they really cut down on the actual music this time around with too many ambient noise parts instead of just playing. I know that's sort of post-rock's thing, but c'mon. Still, a fantastic album from one of post-rocks's best.

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28. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine

I always love talking about a new album from a very consistent band, because I get to talk about how consistent they are. High on Fire are never gonna let you down with a new album. I probably wouldn't have said that before Snakes for the Divine was released, but this album totally affirmed that statement. They are a bastion of consistency in a scene where bands tend to blow all their creativity on their first album or two. Snakes for the Divine gets to a rockin' start with what could be one of the best riffs that Matt Pike has ever written and then marches right into a thunderous drum and guitar battle that makes High on Fire so awesome. The first three tracks of this album are among the best that the band has written, with Bastard Samurai being one of the most fun live tracks that you could get out of a band. The middle seven minutes of the album sort of lull along, but they get you going again with Fire, Flood & Plague. It's a shame only 5/8 of the tracks are this good, because if Holy Flames and Ghost Neck were as good as Frost Hammer and the title track, we'd have a top fifteen album brewing. A heavy and consistent album from a band that is so well known for being heavy and consistent.

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27. Landmine Marathon - Sovereign Descent

This album sucks. A lot. But I pity Nat and Brad so much that I put it here. Of course, I jest ;). One of the two ambassadors of this band once told me that Landmine Marathon had a Carcass and Bolt Thrower thing going on with Sovereign Descent, and that was more than enough to get me to check it out. I mean, if some dude told me the next My Chemical Romance had a Bolt Thrower and Carcass feel to it, I'd probably give it a looksie. It's that intriguing to me. They weren't kidding. Some seriously awesome worship is happening here, with Grace Perry delivering a fantastic almost Pestilence-ish vocal performance. Something tells me that if this band had a much more generic vocalist ala Cannibal Corpse and the like, I would have found it much easier to discard. However Perry really does a great job with this record, and probably overshadows some really awesome riffs throughout the album. Justify the Suffering reminds me so much of Those Once Loyal that I feel like I should be hearing cannon fire in the background. Really, very few bands pull off worship like this very well. Really killer release.

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26. Lair of the Minotaur - Evil Power

I first heard of LotM when I was first getting into metal and I heard an album called Carnage. I was so intrigued that I bought War Metal Battle Master and was less excited. I had forgot about them for years until I saw a review of their new album, Evil Power, and had seen a few ecstatic remarks about it on a certain website. I listened and much to my amazement, it was killer. It's really rare that you can sing "LETS FUCK THEM ALL AGAIN" to some music that's pretty damn enjoyable. It was when I first heard the beautiful, serenading tones of "Lets Kill These Motherfuckers" that I knew Lair of the Minotaur were back. I really like the production on this album which was a problem for WMBM and Carnage but what really shines is the vocal work. The sound is very clean but Rathbone's vocals still sound evil as Hades. I really like what Lair of the Minotaur did with Evil Power, and that is creating a gnarly sludgy thrashy sounding album.

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25. Carach Angren - Death Came Through a Phantom Ship

I checked these guys out on a whim, seeing their album cover thinking I'll see if it's worth my time. Turns out what I was checking out was some really ballsy symphonic black metal, a genre that I have often called the scene music of black metal. I've always wondered why bands like Dimmu Borgir are popular, but now hearing this album gives me another question. Why the hell aren't these guys popular? Seregor has a Jeff Walker esque sort of sound with his vocals and when coupled with some really heavy black metal riffs. They aren't afraid to put in a few harmonics here, either. I like how the synths play more of a backing role than totally overtaking the song. A really awesome mix job put this one over the top too. At last, I have found a symphonic black metal band to believe in.

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24. Intronaut - Valley of Smoke

I knew Intronaut really had their work cut out for them on Valley of Smoke. They just released one of my favorite sludgy sounding albums ever in Prehistoricisms, so they had a lot of pressure to do well with the follow up. Seconds into Elegy and I think the riff is so sexy that they might have done it. I really like the bass work with this album and if it wasn't fretless, it might be half as good. I feel like they let more of a Mastodon influence in this time around as well. Everybody sounds on key for the first half of the album, but then for some reason I just am not feeling the same way as I did earlier. I'm not as hooked to the riffs, and by the end of the album I'm wondering what went wrong. I can't pick out what was wrong, but after repeated listens, the same thing happens. I'm just not as interested. With that said, everything is in order here, but it doesn't have the immediate appeal that its predecessor had. With that said, the album as a whole sounds gritty and nasty, which is exactly what it should sound like.

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23. Red Sparowes - The Fear is Excruciating, But Therein Lies the Answer

I wasn't a fan of Red Sparowes before TFIEBTLTA, because I thought I had heard everything that post-rock had to offer me. I had my Explosions in the Sky, I had my Godspeed You! Black Emperor, I had my Mogwai, I had everything I needed. But this album placed Red Sparowes in that company, because they expanded what I thought post-rock could do. They had a sense of drive that I wasn't used to in the genre, and it was so perfectly executed in this album. Songs like In Illusions of Order have a sense of pace that I find really interesting. A lot of bands slow the pace a lot, but Red Sparowes pull it back up keeping the ambiance and atmosphere at the same level. They aren't afraid to get a little heavy at parts while keeping the sense of relaxation at a high. A really well done post-rock record that will get a lot more spins from me.

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22. Ihsahn - After

I've had a fascination with Ihsahn for as long as I've been into black metal, and it's cool to see him be involved in something like this. It shows his versatility as a musician and ability to write some very varied music. After, like many of these bands, was my first Ihsahn album, and I was immediately impressed. I think songs like A Grave Inversed carry a bit of dead weight, but beyond that, there's very little wrong with this record. A few have complained that the saxophone pieces are way out of place, but I couldn't disagree more. The saxophone is a difficult instrument to get working without seeming like "lololletsputasaxherelol." The sax on After is totally complimentary, and it slowly morphs in, so at the start of The Barren Lands you're thinking, this is a cool little metal album here but by the end of On the Shores you know it's so much more. I think this album reminds me a ton of Yakuza, who really are one of the few bands to get the saxophone in metal right. Ihsahn is solidifying himself as one of the all time greats.

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21. Lantlos - .neon

Let's give Niege a hand. Go on. Do it. I'll wait. This is the dude that released SPOILER two very very good albums this year with his two best bands, Alcest and Lantlos. That dude can bring the black and shoegaze influenced metal that I think sounds mighty dandy. It's tough for me to review this without comparing it to Alcest, who I have coming later, but I'll try anyway. .neon is a fascinating album. The two/three piece works really hard to get an ambiance that you can only get in post-rock into the uber kvlt abyss that is black metal. On this album, Niege demonstrates his clean vocal ability as well as his already demonstrated harsh vocal talent. The guitarwork on the album is fairly reserved, but wasn't a problem. There's something missing that makes Alcest much better than this, and I'll explain that later. A really cool album from one of the most interesting musicians of the day.

Natrlhi
12-23-2010, 11:41 AM
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29. A Silver Mt. Zion - Kollaps Tradixionales

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28. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine

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27. Landmine Marathon - Sovereign Descent

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26. Lair of the Minotaur - Evil Power

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24. Intronaut - Valley of Smoke

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23. Red Sparowes - The Fear is Excruciating, But Therein Lies the AnswerOooooh shit. I'm starting to like your list a whole lot more these days.

...and you're fucking welcome for the Landmine Marathon tip. :cool:

DethMaiden
12-23-2010, 11:49 AM
Can't complain about that chunk of the list. :fist:

idrinkwine732
12-23-2010, 04:51 PM
Can't complain about that chunk of the list. :fist:

You deserve a bro fist for that Lantlos mention. Wouldn't have found that without you bringing them up somewhere.

DethMaiden
12-23-2010, 04:53 PM
You deserve a bro fist for that Lantlos mention. Wouldn't have found that without you bringing them up somewhere.

No prob, dude. I generally try to stay pretty on top of black metal so never hesitate to come with me with stuff you don't know about or whatever. :fist:

idrinkwine732
12-27-2010, 10:45 PM
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20. Ludicra - The Tenant

There is nothing a band can do to aggravate me more than have a female vocalist who just is there to look good. However, Ludicra have a female vocalist who is there to belt some awesome black metal vox. Ludicra is also a somewhat supergroup who play music nothing like their original groups. The Tenant is an album that attempts to project a feeling of emptiness and distaste of city life, and it does a pretty damn good job. The Tenant doesn't act like your regular nth wave black metal album that is there to be grim and kvlt and get the fuck out. It actually works to project emotion, and everybody in the band plays their part. It was pointed out to me that the album has a few throwback riffs and sections to some older classic metal bands that really magnified the album's range to me. The Tenant is an ambitious album from a band that is just starting to realize its potential.

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19. Hooded Menace - Never Cross the Dead

Hooded Menace are a band who are trying to find their home in a gap between death and doom metal, two genres that seemed fairly incompatible with each other to me. After hearing Hooded Menace's debut, I was at least intrigued enough to try out Never Cross the Dead, which is much more in a death metal mold than its predecessor. WIth Lasse Pyykkö (try pronouncing that) of Acid Witch fame, the album cruises along at a tortoise's pace throwing the listener around with some obviously death metal riffs with a doom metal tone and sound. This is clearly a band that benefitted from signing to all star record label Profound Lore, who seemed to give them an upgrade in the production department. The album is clean but still dirty, rough but still smooth. Hooded Menace achieved a very rare sound with Never Cross the Dead, and really will have a lot of trouble outdoing themselves with a follow up.

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18. God is an Astronaut - Age of the Fifth Sun

Post-Rock is by far the genre that has grown on me the most this year. I delved into the blues and black metal a lot, but post-rock just rocked my world all year, and few bands are as responsible for that as God Is An Astronaut. Besides an incredibly entertaining name, these instrumental rockers have released four of the most beautiful and original albums in the genre's history. Then there's Age of the Fifth Sun. Straight from the beginning of Worlds in Collision, I knew this album wasn't going to be a progression from its predecessor, but it very well could be their best. No band in post-rock brings such a cool electronic sounding element in their music like God is an Astronaut and it makes for a fascinating record. The title track ebbs and flows in such a way that you can only tell where the music gets to its climactic peak by the shivers down your spine. I feel such a connection with this album, and it is really something special.

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17. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini

For an album that I expected to be in my top five this year, I was disappointed by Axioma Ethica Odini. I was expecting a true evolution from Vertebrae in classic Enslaved fashion. What I got was a true evolution from Vertebrae in a more boring fashion. With that said, there are few bands with a sound more up my alley than new Enslaved. Because of that, this album could have been eighteen steps down from Vertebrae and still been a top 30 album. It was only one or two down and it made it into a criminally low 17. This album lacks a lot of the riffs and hooks that made Vertebrae so infectious, but maintains the atmosphere and aesthetic that its predecessor has. Tons and tons of clean vocals create a really spooky aura that I really like. The final track, Lightening is by far the best on the album, and it fuses the albums soaring clean vocals with a gritty black metal feel that truly sums up the album. Although a step down from its predecessor, a lot of bands wish they could make an album this good.

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16. Slough Feg - The Animal Spirits

These guys can't suck. They just can't. 20 years after their inception and they are making albums better than they were in 1996. The Animal Spirits is a lot like the band's previous albums and really puts its previous albums Hardworlder and Ape Uprising to shame. I got a really great Eric Johnson vibe from some parts of The Animal Spirits, which took me by surprise. It wouldn't be a Slough Feg record without all of the throwback sounding riffs, also. Scalzi's unorthodox sounding vocals and catchy vocal melodies are as awesome sounding as ever, as the band rocks through eleven of the finest tracks the band has ever made. After listening to Slough Feg's discography, you have to start wondering if there will ever be a band more consistent than Slough Feg. The Animal Spirits is another feather in the cap for one of the coolest bands in metal.

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15. Anathema - We're Here Because We're Here

I stumbled upon Anathema not too long ago, completely unaware that they were a legendary doom metal act back in the day. I looked at their earlier work and though it was good, but what they are doing with their new material is incredible. The opening track is fairly representative of the entire album. A soothing clean electric track that will evolve into a heavier (still not heavy, heavy) riff that drives the chorus home. Upon closer examination, Anathema still exhibit a ton of their previous metal-ness. Thin Air has a ton of metal sounding drum parts and Summernight Horizon has a lighter metal aesthetic. A lot of this album reminds me of post-rock band Moonlit Sailor, because of their walking tempo soothing rock tunes. We're Here Because We're Here is an effort that makes the listener feel so relaxed and so in tune with their surroundings that it is the best non-metal album of the year.

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14. Hellish Crossfire - Bloodrust Scythe

Jay recommended this album to me not too long after it came out, and usually I would have discarded it and told him that it was okay at best ;). However, that was not the case. Bloodrust Scythe is a blackened thrash album that contains all of the best elements of Possessed and early-Death while keeping the sound undeniably thrash based. Like a few thrash bands are doing these days, they put some nods to Accept, Priest and other early metal bands in the solos and riffs. They do a great job with some twin lead solos throughout the album, too. ...Of Slaying Grounds reminds me of Mutilation from Scream Bloody Gore smashed with Killing is my Business. Pretty simply, this is a band that combines some killer black thrash with a really in your face attitude that I like in an album. No discretion about it at all, Hellish Crossfire came to thrash and chew bubblegum. Bloodrust Scythe is where they run out of bubblegum.

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13. Heathen - Evolution of Chaos

There was a time a few years ago where I would have slaughtered a cow in sacrifice for a new Heathen album. Although that feeling has waned, I was pretty damn excited when I was told it would come out. Now, this is one of those borderline 2009 releases, but fuck you, this is a 2010 release. I'm not going to make the claim that Heathen have created their best album with Evolution of Chaos, but they got close. Songs like Dying Season and Arrows of Agony should stand up tall with their older material as some of the finest they've written. David White's vocals are absolutely insane the whole way through, and demonstrates that he is one of the best thrash vocalists. This album was bumped up a few spots after I saw them live, which is where this new material really shines best. An album that will go underrated, but is brilliant.

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12. The Ocean - Heliocentric

This album was probably my most anticipated coming into 2010. I was a huge fan of Precambrian, and thought Heliocentric would continue in the same mold. When I heard it was a concept album around Christianity, I was even more excited. I was expecting some of the heaviest shit this side of the Mississippi. But that's not what I got. What I got instead was an incredibly well thought out album that way out of left field as far as sound. The Ocean do just fine with the first two tracks of the album, not including Shamayim, but once Ptolemy Was Wrong kicks in, the album gets weird. Not bad, but just not entertaining. I sometimes struggle with the tracks four through six, because they just aren't entertaining. But, there's a reason why this album is this high. The answer is the combined 20 minutes of the last four tracks. These are the four of the finest tracks that The Ocean has ever done, with The Origin of Species/God being their best by far. These four tracks ebb and flow a way that they failed to get in the previous part of the album and failed to get in Anthropocentric. A great album that is only great because of the quality first three and last four tracks, and I know the Ocean can do better.

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11. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus

There are few times where I think bands are doing something truly unique. Usually it's bands who try something a little bit new in the influences department or just improved on songwriting, but with Paracletus, Deathspell Omega have earned the right to be called unique. With the opening track, Epiklesis I, you have no clue what you are listening to. You think this is a black metal album, but it's not like any other you've heard. By the middle, Deathspell keep the strange feeling alive while making a more black metal sound prevail. Paracletus is another rare black metal album that does not shaft the bassist, and it is really welcomed. Some of the bass focused parts in Dearth and Phosphene contain things I've never heard in black metal before. This album blew my mind, and with some more exposure, it could have jumped into the top 10.

DethMaiden
12-27-2010, 10:48 PM
Three of my top ten in your 11-20 and another several that I loved. Safe to say that your tastes are probably closer to mine than anybody else on here. Continually solid reviews too dude, can't wait to see/read your top ten. :horns:

I will say that while #17 for Enslaved made it a disappointment for you, I had it around the same place and it was a big positive surprise for me. The likes of Ruun and Vertebrae never grabbed me nearly as much as Ethica did, I dunno why exactly (the creeping Opeth influence is my guess though ;))

idrinkwine732
12-27-2010, 11:34 PM
Three of my top ten in your 11-20 and another several that I loved. Safe to say that your tastes are probably closer to mine than anybody else on here. Continually solid reviews too dude, can't wait to see/read your top ten. :horns:

I think we both know that we will have a few shared in the top 10 as well :cool:.

I will say that while #17 for Enslaved made it a disappointment for you, I had it around the same place and it was a big positive surprise for me. The likes of Ruun and Vertebrae never grabbed me nearly as much as Ethica did, I dunno why exactly (the creeping Opeth influence is my guess though ;))

I have noticed the Opeth influence, but not a ton. My biggest problem with Axioma is that it just lacks the riffs that made Vertebrae so killer. Good to see Enslaved caught your interest, because they're really worth it.

mankvill
12-28-2010, 12:06 AM
I think people might be angry over where I put Heathen on my list. :lol:

idrinkwine732
12-28-2010, 12:22 AM
I think people might be angry over where I put Heathen on my list. :lol:

So angry :mad::finger:

The_jman
12-28-2010, 06:37 AM
Nice reviews man, even if some of them aren't my style of music, I really enjoy reading your writing. Its very thoughtful and well put together. You can tell that you are very passionate about music.

ravenheart
12-28-2010, 06:48 AM
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14. Hellish Crossfire - Bloodrust Scythe

Jay recommended this album to me not too long after it came out, and usually I would have discarded it and told him that it was okay at best ;). However, that was not the case. Bloodrust Scythe is a blackened thrash album that contains all of the best elements of Possessed and early-Death while keeping the sound undeniably thrash based. Like a few thrash bands are doing these days, they put some nods to Accept, Priest and other early metal bands in the solos and riffs. They do a great job with some twin lead solos throughout the album, too. ...Of Slaying Grounds reminds me of Mutilation from Scream Bloody Gore smashed with Killing is my Business. Pretty simply, this is a band that combines some killer black thrash with a really in your face attitude that I like in an album. No discretion about it at all, Hellish Crossfire came to thrash and chew bubblegum. Bloodrust Scythe is where they run out of bubblegum.

Damnit, I needed this one done this year.

mankvill
12-28-2010, 12:22 PM
Damnit, I needed this one done this year.

...you didn't get this from me? I could've swore I reviewed/sent it.

idrinkwine732
12-28-2010, 03:12 PM
Nice reviews man, even if some of them aren't my style of music, I really enjoy reading your writing. Its very thoughtful and well put together. You can tell that you are very passionate about music.

Thanks a ton man.

idrinkwine732
12-28-2010, 05:45 PM
I have to say, this has been one of the most incredible years of my life not only in music but in general. But, I'm here to talk about music. So many great shows, so many great bands. Trying to sum up the 100 or so bands I saw this year is tough.

HMs: Heathen, Revocation, Baroness and Between the Buried and Me

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10. Exodus @ Slim's
with Heathen, Anvil Chorus and Passive Agressive

I walked into Slim's knowing what Exodus were like, considering that I had seen them only a few months ago when they were around with Arch Enemy. They had just released an album that fell far short of my expectations, but I couldn't pass up an opportunity to see a thrash great. I stood right in front of Lee Altus all show, and he had a really dominating stage presence. I think Rob tends to act like a total prick on stage, but he let the persona drop a little bit for the intimate club show and seemed a lot more friendly. Throughout the night I accumulated three Exodus picks, a setlist and a whole ton of awesome memories.

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9. Nile @ Slim's
with Immolation, Krisiun and Dreaming Dead

I was in love with Nile the first time I heard them. They just spoke to me through the soothing buzzsaw guitar tone and beautifully executed death growls. When I heard they'd be touring with a bitchin lineup like this, I was psyched. I had a blast during Krisiun and Immolation, but Nile just were on a different level. Hearing great tunes like Black Seeds of Vengeance and Lashed to the Slave Stick live were among my favorite memories in 2010. This could have been the best death metal show I'll go to in a long time.

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8. Deströyer 666 @ DNA Lounge
with Enthroned, Pathology and Necrite

What do you expect from a band led by a man named KK Warslut? In a live setting, Deströyer 666 just oozes energy and in my setting, displayed professionalism to go with their satanism. Apparently they could hear very little on the stage and the sound people at DNA weren't helping, but they played along without a hitch. Their setlist was long as fuck for a supporting band and it contained all of the songs I was hoping for. Yelling along to Black City -- Black Fire and Satanic Speed Metal was absolutely incredible. They sounded fantastic, and sounded sharp. I'm excited as hell to see them at MDF.

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(couldn't find any live photos...)

7. Cormorant @ Thee Parkside
with Suidakra and Ashkira

This should surprise no one. It's no secret that Cormorant are one of my favorite active metal bands, and I was super pumped to see them live. It was a cold March day and I went to Thee Parkside on a whim. Let me just say that the tone that Cormorant achieve live is really incredible, and sounds thicker and more dense than on the record, making the doomier parts of their songs sound heavy as hell. I couldn't escape the feeling of fulfillment having seen these guys play parts of their awesome record, Metazoa live, and see a few new songs be played from the new album. Arthur's voice sounded excellent for the first half of the set, but by the end, it wasn't sounding too good. But they had gotten to the new songs, which were instrumentals, so he could take a break. A really fantastic live act who I will see again sometime.

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6. Blind Guardian @ Regency Ballroom
with Holy Grail and Seven Kingdoms

Since I had no interest in them coming into 2010, it surprises me to have Blind Guardian this high. However, the charm of their live show is just too much to keep out of a top ten list. Hearing a bunch of new tunes was fantastic, but all of the oldies were really nice to hear also. I wasn't that into their discography coming into the show, but their live setlist gave me a great couple of albums for me to check out. If they had just been your run of the mill live act, I couldn't have gotten into them the way they did. It's a good thing they hinted they'll be back sooner rather than later, because I'll certainly be in attendance.

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5. Hypocrisy @ DNA Lounge
with Scar Symmetry, Hate, Blackguard and Swashbuckle

This was the day that Dio died. Walking into DNA that day was like walking into a wake. Everybody was talking about the times they saw Dio play and how awesome he was. It's a shame the first four bands were so forgettable, with possible exception to Hate. However, Hypocrisy came on stage and played an absolutely incredible set. Right before Fire in the Sky, Peter talked about Dio for a bit and dedicated the show to him. I'm 100% certain that this show would have been one of the best that I had been to if Dio hadn't died, but the fact that he did magnified the experience a great deal. An emotional day, but a fantastic one at that.

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4. Giant Squid @ The Professional
with Diseptikons, Rat Damage and The Walking Dead

This show was your regular metal show at a car window tinting shop. A good hundred people all there to see Diseptikons play a killer set, but not me. I was there to see Giant Squid play an even better set. That's precisely what happened. They played the same set that I saw back in July, but they added Sutter's Fort, which was a great addition. The inside atmosphere made the show ten times better, and although Giant Squid weren't happy with their sound, they sounded pretty damn good. Seeing it live once before did not prepare me for the absolute bulldozer that is Neonate live though. This was one show that I forgot earplugs at and it wrecked me. I got a flat tire on the way home and was stranded for an hour or so, but it was so worth it. This was a weird night but one to remember.

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3. Sleep @ Regency Ballroom
with Thrones

They reunited. They rocked. That's pretty much it. I questioned their ability to play two back to back shows at the Regency, but they did it, and apparently they sold very well. Their live tone was fucking incredible, and all of their songs were heavy as shit. Hearing a solid half of Dopesmoker live was really incredible, and I hope I get the opportunity to hear it again at some point. I was really bummed I didn't get there in time to get a tour shirt, because they were fucking awesome. Sleep put on one of the best shows I have ever seen, and I hope they come back to do it again sometime.

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2. Agalloch @ Great American Music Hall
with Allerseelen and Dispirit

Agalloch very well could be making my favorite music right now. They experiment well and keep the aesthetic of their music intact throughout their discography. But their live show is something else. As the crowd's collective nerves were bundling, Haughm placed wooden stumps at the front of the stage, placed a candleholder like thing on top of them, and placed incense in them, decorating the perimeter with deers hoofs and horns, etc. Then, they played. They deliver their material drenched in emotion, something that I haven't seen executed before. It's scary to think that this is a band still evolving into a live act, because they looked like they have been perfecting it for decades. Phenomenal to say the least.

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1. Iron Maiden @ Sleep Train Pavilion at Concord
with Dream Theater

While Agalloch might have been the greatest spectacle I've seen at a live show, I had more fun at this one. That's what metal shows are all about right? Because of that, Iron Maiden get the number one spot. I just can't explain the impatience and butterflies waiting on the rail after Dream Theater. I can't explain watching Bruce Dickinson sing my favorite reunion tunes only two yards away from me. I can't explain the life fulfilling happiness that overcame me during Number of the Beast. I just can't. I left the venue in a daze, soaked in sweat, and as happy as I'll ever be.

I'll finish up my top 10 write ups and then we'll be done with this sucker, I think...

idrinkwine732
12-30-2010, 01:55 PM
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10. Celestia - Archanae Perfectii

Maybe it's the Latin lyrics, maybe it's the cool sounding production, maybe it's neither of those things. I really like this album. These guys make some really great mid tempo black metal, and almost all of its value lies in really well performed vocals and the riffs. Although the latter become slightly repetitive by the end of the album, they really create a sort of zen the whole way through. Archanae Perfectii hosts some of your changeup speed acoustic and clean sections that a lot of black metal is asking for these days, too. Although the album is only a half an hour, the album as a whole feels very complete and well thought out. A lot of bands would have become conceited and demanded that the album be a full hour, but Celestia did the right thing in keeping it short. A fantastic album.

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9. Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier

I have to say, for an album that I thought was stellar, the reception to this album amongst fans was weird to me. I think a solid sixty percent liked the album while another thirty absolutely loathed it, with the remaining ten percent somewhere in between. There were no fans who made the claim that this album was Maiden's best effort, unlike A Matter of Life and Death, but there were quite a few who made it sound as if it was their worst. Regardless, I couldn't get enough of The Final Frontier for the longest time. I think Bruce put together a very fine vocal performance at this stage in his career, and Adrian and Steve are writing just as well as before. I think The Talisman is one of my favorite reunion tunes, and it's awesome that a band can do this so late in their career. However, with that said, the straining sound on Mother of Mercy and a few other tracks are starting to define Maiden's later career. I think the album had its low points (The Alchemist) and its high points (Starblind and The Talisman), but the high points rival some of the high points of the reunion era. In the context of the late stage of their career, Iron Maiden outdid themselves with The Final Frontier.

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8. Cloudkicker - Beacons

Just when I think I have a truly unique artist on my list, Cloudkicker took the blogosphere by storm. With Beacons, Cloudkicker (aka Ben Sharp) proved that he has a great pool of artistic influences and an even greater pool of talent to draw from. He starts the album off softly, coaxing the listener into a calmed state, but then explodes into a really speedy math metal riff on the next track. Sharp does a fantastic job of creating a state of ambiance while keeping his post-rock and shoegaze influences on his sleeve. I think it's a little bit tough to imagine a really huge sense of Explosions in the Sky influence with the heaviest Meshuggah influence in the same album, but Beacons succeeds immensely. The three track stretch of "Here, wait a minute! Damn it!" to "Oh, god." is potentially the greatest three song stretch of 2010, and all three songs are metal as fuck. The inspiration behind the album is the last minutes of black box recordings on airplanes. All of the titles are among the last words spoken on the recordings. For me, it brings new meaning to the titles, especially "Amy, I love you." On Beacons, Cloudkicker really pulled a bunny out of the hat, and although it's a little bit of a stretch to call the whole album metal, it has to be one of the best albums of the year.

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7. Blind Guardian - At the Edge of Time

If you had told me that the new Blind Guardian album would have placed higher on my year end list than Iron Maiden, I probably would have pinched myself to make sure I wasn't in some weird nightmare. However, that is what happened. I'm 100% new to Blind Guardian, and I wasn't exactly sure what their albums would sound like. It's hard to believe that this is an effort from a band so old, considering how most bands drink all of their creative juice on their first few records, but At the Edge of Time is just so imaginative. Their use of the full orchestra throughout the album pushes the power of the music up twenty notches, and makes songs like Sacred Worlds seem extremely immense. People gave the song "Curse My Name" a little bit of grief, but I think it keeps the album going on a high note. Hansi's vocal melodies throughout the song keep it catchy, and although it might not be up to par with the rest of Blind Guardian's ballads, I think it plays an important role on the album. The massive emotion and power of Tanelorn and Wheel of Time are the high points of the album, and will make any newcomer immediately interested in checking out the rest of their discography. Trust me, I know.

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6. Martriden - Encounter the Monolith

I tried to submit a review of this to Metal-Archives, and it got refused. Upon reading it again, I realized that it's really hard to review this album. I don't know how to explain to someone how cool all of the connections to Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey are, but I did my best to explain how awesome the album is. The production on this album is dynamite, something that totally made me realize that albums like Death Magnetic have no excuse to sound as bad as they do. Here are an independent band from Montana and they put almost every other metal act to shame in the studio. Beyond the production, the album is a thick slab of blackened death metal. The guitar sound on Encounter the Monolith is colossal and the drums are equally as massive, the vocals raw and relentless, the bass sound...present for once. All of the riffs are chunky as hell, and they even use some symphonic elements to drive some parts home. I know this review might not be helpful in a describing why this album is great way, but really, this is the bees' knees. I have nightmares that this band won't be signed by 2012.

Natrlhi
12-30-2010, 02:14 PM
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4. Giant Squid @ The Professional
with Diseptikons, Rat Damage and The Walking Dead

This show was your regular metal show at a car window tinting shop. A good hundred people all there to see Diseptikons play a killer set, but not me. I was there to see Giant Squid play an even better set. That's precisely what happened. They played the same set that I saw back in July, but they added Sutter's Fort, which was a great addition. The inside atmosphere made the show ten times better, and although Giant Squid weren't happy with their sound, they sounded pretty damn good. Seeing it live once before did not prepare me for the absolute bulldozer that is Neonate live though. This was one show that I forgot earplugs at and it wrecked me. I got a flat tire on the way home and was stranded for an hour or so, but it was so worth it. This was a weird night but one to remember.That photo is actually from the show that I saw in Chicago a few years back...small world, huh? In fact, from where the photographer was standing, I almost thought it was a photo that I took which had been posted on the net somehow, but then I remembered I am horribly bad at posting show photos online, so it couldn't possibly be one of mine (sounds like a good idea for a New Year's resolution, maybe).

When I get back home, I'll try to remember to post some photos from that show on Facebook if I have time. I have one or two that are almost carbon copies of the one you posted above.

...and re-fuck you you for getting to see / hear "Sutter's Fort" live, you bastard. :mad: :bigfinger

jhdeity
12-30-2010, 02:39 PM
Props for putting Cloudkicker over Maiden. I didn't think anyone even knew about them or could find their music or that they even put an actual physical cd out.

In 2009 they would have been a lock for my Top 10 but this year I just don't see them getting there. Maybe I have to listen to Ihsahn and other bands who have been entrenched since July and reassess if they belong.

idrinkwine732
01-01-2011, 06:27 PM
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5. Barren Earth - Curse of the Red River

I have to say that in general, I think supergroups are a bad idea. Sure, you get bands like Bloodbath every now and then, but more often than not, they just take members away from better groups. I think Barren Earth proved their worth with Curse of the Red River. They did not reinvent the wheel or anything, but they made a pretty fucking cool melodeath record. Some of my favorite music writers are in Moonsorrow and Amorphis, so hearing them write an album that is really cool. Mikko, of Swallow the Sun fame, offers his unorthodox vocals to an album that already sounds stellar, but they put the album together at some points. There are some absolutely killer Insomnium and Swallow the Sun influenced riffs being put together here, and I'm really excited to see what they can put out in the future. This album just oozes a fulfilling feeling that I don't really get from any other album.

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4. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones

Every once in a while, there is an album that pushes your definition of what metal can be. Eparistera Daimones made me re-imagine what heaviness means to me. I didn't know that there was a certain combination of tone and tuning that could get this heavy. But on the first listen to Goetia, I knew I had something special. Triptykon represents more than a reinvention of Celtic Frost, it represents the first time that Tom G Warrior has full autonomy on the writing of the music. Sure, this probably isn't all him, but the gig is all centered around him, and there is a really special result. It was sort of a bummer when Celtic Frost broke up just after releasing one of the most punishing albums that I've ever heard in Monotheist, and it was awesome to hear that Warrior would be coming back with an evolution of its sound. Rejoice! Celtic Frost is back...in a way, and making music just as killer as before.

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3. Watain - Lawless Darkness

At the risk of sounding condescending, I'd like to say that I've listened to a ton of black metal in my relatively short time as a metal listener. Lawless Darkness however is one of the first times that I've ever listened to a black metal album and feel infected. Erik Danielsson's vocal performance is nothing short of a virus that over time runs through your whole body and the music as a whole acts as a drug, forcing you to go back for more. There are few moments in black metal as awesome as the chorus of Reaping Death, with both an awesome chantable part with some really evil lyrical content. Lawless Darkness is an album chock full of riffs that stray from your traditional black metal sound, but also contains tons of nods to Bathory and Immortal. While it's an album just barely eclipsed by Casus Luciferi, Lawless Darkness sits at Casus Luciferi's right hand. I fully expected at the beginning of November that I would be writing about this album and concluding it with it being my album of the year, but, unfortunately, that's not what happened.

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2. Alcest - Écailles De Lune

This is as hit or miss album as any in the metal world. When Brad first recommended it to me in April, I thought it was average at best, believing it to stray from any structure the album had throughout, and getting a little bit full of itself with all of the shoegaze influence. However, as my non-metal tastes evolved to shoegaze and post-rock, Écailles De Lune's true value shined. It quickly became apparent to me that Niege is all about atmosphere, and he does a damn good job of creating it. Something about the french makes the lyrics sound particularly cool. Niege reminds you that this album has a foundation in black metal on Percées de Lumière, when he performs some shrieks that for some reason remind me of early In The Woods. On that song, there's also the most killer section somewhere around the middle that barrages the listener with a fantasy-based atmosphere and a great riff that continues to the end. A lot of black metal took a direction similar to Alcest and Wolves in the Throne Room in that they wanted to create atmospheric black metal with a ton of shoegaze or post-rock influences, and with Écailles De Lune, Alcest demonstrated that they are the true innovators of the genre.

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1. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit

Natrlhi just today made the statement that his album of the year is the album that closest resembles perfection, and then went about talking how Snakes for the Divine is complete on a track by track basis. The latter part, is where I disagree. I believe that an album of the year must have the flow, consistency, mood, originality and substance throughout of a perfect album. It is the sum of the parts, not the parts that make an album perfect. I hate to disappoint you, Brad, but no album in 2010 came as close to fulfilling all of those prerequisites as Marrow of the Spirit. There was no album that came close to the level of ambiance and emotion that I sensed in the newest album from Agalloch. Jackie Perez Gratz offers the most incredible intro of 2010, performing a cello melody that flows as perfectly as the river in the background of the track. Haughm experimented with his vocal ability, resulting in a Transith-esque sound, the vocalist for the aforementioned In the Woods, on Black Lake Nidstang. There is a ton of Mantle-esque melodies and sounds in here that will make the old fans gush at a return to the roots, but there is a ton of experimentation and new frontier being forged here by the Portland dark metallers. By releasing Marrow of the Spirit, Agalloch have proved that they are the band to beat when it comes to making music, not just metal.

daimonos
01-01-2011, 09:32 PM
Very solid top 5.

DethMaiden
01-01-2011, 10:04 PM
I'm a big fan of 2 and 3. :party:

And 1 and 4 are this year's two biggest "Damn, why didn't that click?" albums for me. So all in all, I'm a big fan of your list. I think it's pretty safe to say that among regular posters on here your tastes most closely resemble mine. So, obviously, you're the closest person on here to me to being right. :fist: ;)

idrinkwine732
01-02-2011, 08:02 PM
I'm a big fan of 2 and 3. :party:

And 1 and 4 are this year's two biggest "Damn, why didn't that click?" albums for me. So all in all, I'm a big fan of your list. I think it's pretty safe to say that among regular posters on here your tastes most closely resemble mine. So, obviously, you're the closest person on here to me to being right. :fist: ;)

I can totally understand Triptykon not clicking for somebody. It's a weird album for sure.

Of course I'm the closest to being right. If all you people weren't so stupid, you could all be right with me. :D

Sneak peak at 2011, the new Mogwai fucking rules.

NecroRob
01-03-2011, 05:45 PM
Sneak peak at 2011, the new Mogwai fucking rules.

Oh shit, I had no idea this already leaked. Downloading nao :party:

illuminatus917
01-03-2011, 08:56 PM
Your top 5 list is almost identical to what mine would be. My only complaint is, where's "The Suburbs?"

idrinkwine732
01-03-2011, 09:22 PM
Oh shit, I had no idea this already leaked. Downloading nao :party:
It took a few listens, but it's totally :rocker::drool::party:

Your top 5 list is almost identical to what mine would be. My only complaint is, where's "The Suburbs?"

I have yet to give Arcade Fire a chance so I can keep up my streak of being late to the party on bands like them.

illuminatus917
01-04-2011, 02:26 PM
I have yet to give Arcade Fire a chance so I can keep up my streak of being late to the party on bands like them.

Just know, next time you're in one of those musically depressed states (you know, a dry spell... when nothing good seems to be coming out), you have a dandy waiting for you out there...
Think of it as the light of Earendil... the light Galadrial gave Frodo to use when "all other lights go out."

NecroRob
01-04-2011, 04:09 PM
It took a few listens, but it's totally :rocker::drool::party:


Yeah I gave it a listen last night and it seems great.

JLRedWing13
01-06-2011, 03:42 PM
I'm late because I've been away and just finished this, but awesome list and awesome read, as usual. I agree with a lot of these. :fist:

The_jman
01-16-2011, 04:46 PM
Thanks to this List. I bought Barren Earth's Curse of the Red River.
I've enjoyed it quite a bit, thanks for the recommendation man. I would have never found it were it not for you!

idrinkwine732
01-16-2011, 08:05 PM
Thanks, that means a ton.

The_jman
01-17-2011, 07:29 AM
They totally would have made my top Ten, its that good.

JLRedWing13
01-18-2011, 11:11 AM
Can't wait to see them live in a month. :D

TehSuckUpPrince
02-12-2011, 02:39 PM
Ah the infamous WINE threads taht everybody complains about on the other forums!!:allan:

larvtard
02-12-2011, 03:46 PM
Ah the infamous WINE threads taht everybody complains about on the other forums!!:allan:

I take it he's quite the celebrity on the Mayhem boards...

smokebeer420
02-12-2011, 04:00 PM
wine im baffled you didnt include a death album :eek:.i thought they would be a sure lock

TehSuckUpPrince
02-12-2011, 04:01 PM
I take it he's quite the celebrity on the Mayhem boards... he's pretty hated on the Unofficial board, but the Main board no.

idrinkwine732
02-12-2011, 07:24 PM
wine im baffled you didnt include a death album :eek:.i thought they would be a sure lock

I can't include Death on my year end list because Death didn't release any new material this year.

he's pretty hated on the Unofficial board, but the Main board no.

It appears that my reputation has diminished in my absence.

smokebeer420
02-12-2011, 08:00 PM
I can't include Death on my year end list because Death didn't release any new material this year.
i didnt know it was your top 50 releases of 2010 my bad.if it was what death cd's would you have and where would they be?

idrinkwine732
02-12-2011, 08:04 PM
I can't include Death on my year end list because Death didn't release any new material this year.
i didnt know it was your top 50 releases of 2010 my bad.if it was what death cd's would you have and where would they be?

Not sure what you're asking here. I mean, Scream Bloody Gore and Symbolic sure as hell are better albums than Marrow of the Spirit.

smokebeer420
02-12-2011, 08:08 PM
Not sure what you're asking here-if you did a top 50 albums of all time what death albums would be in the list and where would they be?

idrinkwine732
02-12-2011, 08:14 PM
hhhmmm...

Symbolic and Scream Bloody Gore would both probably be in the top 10
Sound of Perseverance and Human would both probably be in the top 30 or so.

That's probably it.

smokebeer420
02-12-2011, 08:22 PM
respectable-im a big fan of spiritual healing. It's my favorite. Some of the lyrics are fucking brilliant :light:

TehSuckUpPrince
02-14-2011, 12:01 AM
I can't include Death on my year end list because Death didn't release any new material this year.



It appears that my reputation has diminished in my absence.


Yeah there was a dooshbag thread, and then there was a "you guys wanna see a real dooshbag" thread, and it was you, they posted one of your posts, and a bunch of people started bitchin about you, you should read it, it was a classic.

Dextrimental
02-14-2011, 03:12 AM
Yeah there was a dooshbag thread, and then there was a "you guys wanna see a real dooshbag" thread, and it was you, they posted one of your posts, and a bunch of people started bitchin about you, you should read it, it was a classic.

provide a link, I love looking through these things!

TehSuckUpPrince
02-14-2011, 05:48 AM
http://mayhemforums.vanillaforums.com/discussion/3929/look-at-this-fuckin-douchebag

Wont be able to log on since its shutdown for registration, and all people that dont have an account..... You can thank me for that because, I AM AMERICA, and they are just some peeny Japanese. :jima:

^^Inside joke if you are wondering, but im sure some on here will know what it means.

idrinkwine732
02-14-2011, 06:41 PM
Yeah there was a dooshbag thread, and then there was a "you guys wanna see a real dooshbag" thread, and it was you, they posted one of your posts, and a bunch of people started bitchin about you, you should read it, it was a classic.

Bet 20 bucks I know which one it was.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-14-2011, 07:32 PM
Bet 20 bucks I know which one it was.Nope wasnt Shane. :allan:

idrinkwine732
02-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Nope wasnt Shane. :allan:

No, the thread. It's the rec thread on the other forums, no?

I was condescending as shit while writing that.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-14-2011, 07:39 PM
No, the thread. It's the rec thread on the other forums, no?

I was condescending as shit while writing that. No it was a thread of another forum not sure which forum, but someone quoted it, there was a link but I didnt check to see what site...

slapguitarer
02-14-2011, 07:48 PM
No, the thread. It's the rec thread on the other forums, no?

I was condescending as shit while writing that.

Yeah, he thought you were a d-bag because of your rec thread on the officials.

Wizzbang11
02-14-2011, 07:51 PM
How many of you people post on an unofficial Mayhemfest board? And more importantly, why?

MPF
02-14-2011, 08:09 PM
How many of you people post on an unofficial Mayhemfest board? And more importantly, why?

This.

idrinkwine732
02-14-2011, 08:15 PM
How many of you people post on an unofficial Mayhemfest board? And more importantly, why?

I posted there because the people are cool, and I like talkin' music with them. It's the same reason I post anywhere.

slapguitarer
02-14-2011, 08:19 PM
I posted there because the people are cool, and I like talkin' music with them. It's the same reason I post anywhere.

Some people there have a solid taste in music, but a fair amount like really bad music, like Emmure, which gives me a sad.

Wizzbang11
02-14-2011, 08:21 PM
I think I'm more confused as to how you found it, and how you all came to be here.

idrinkwine732
02-14-2011, 08:25 PM
I think I'm more confused as to how you found it, and how you all came to be here.

Oh, that's easily explained. I was posting on the original Mayhem Boards (:eyes:) back after the 09 fest, and we were all just posting, doing our thing. Then with the '10 announcement, Rockstar moved the forum to Loudbase, which is shit, so a guy made a forum with the old forum software, Vanilla, which is great. Slap was a poster on the post-'10 boards who found his way to the Vanilla one. I don't know exactly where Prince came from...

Truth is, I don't post there anymore because I dislike the idea of a social forum a lot more than a music-discussion forum. It basically became a social forum, so I stopped posting there.

Wizzbang11
02-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Ahh. Got it.
Noga spawned there also, right?

Mayhemfest 09 was the only Mayhemfest worth going to, so I guess that's justifiable :D

slapguitarer
02-14-2011, 08:31 PM
I posted there because the people are cool, and I like talkin' music with them. It's the same reason I post anywhere.

There was a time they actually talked about music?

idrinkwine732
02-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Ahh. Got it.
Noga spawned there also, right?

Mayhemfest 09 was the only Mayhemfest worth going to, so I guess that's justifiable :D

Noga did spawn from there. 09 was the only year I went.

There was a time they actually talked about music?

They still do to some degree, but it's completely suffocated by the bitching between members. I haven't been there in a while though, don't know how it is now.

slapguitarer
02-14-2011, 09:29 PM
They still do to some degree, but it's completely suffocated by the bitching between members. I haven't been there in a while though, don't know how it is now.

The only places I see actual talk of music area the "March Madness of Metal" type threads. Also, there hasn't been too much drama recently between members, except for Prince and all of his shit.

illuminatus917
02-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Yo yo yo, we need to get some intellectual music chat going on up in there. Some of those cats like some good stuff.

illuminatus917
02-14-2011, 09:54 PM
Hey... it looks like the official boards are finally fixed...

TehSuckUpPrince
02-15-2011, 06:14 AM
Noga did spawn from there. 09 was the only year I went.



They still do to some degree, but it's completely suffocated by the bitching between members. I haven't been there in a while though, don't know how it is now.

Its like a Jersey shore episode overthere, (even though ive never seen jersey shore but I can imagine!) Very entertaining for me. :bouville:

BlindGuardian93
02-15-2011, 11:21 AM
Hey... it looks like the official boards are finally fixed...

they were fixed for a bit, i for the most part stopped posting on there also i mainly go between here and the unofficial boards anymore due to lack of intelect on the official boards besides a few people.

jhdeity
02-15-2011, 12:45 PM
In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...

illuminatus917
02-15-2011, 02:08 PM
In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...


I'm driving 8 hours to see them in Cleveland. I think the opposite. Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that. But I don't think most metal listeners listen to music for the same reasons I do, hence why this kind of thing is equivocal.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-15-2011, 02:11 PM
In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

But, yeah if you're trying to tell metalheads who want crunching riffs, great guitar solos and some great sing-a-long driving music that Agalloch and Alcest were the 2 best cd's of 2010, you're gonna get shit.

I know people on here love those bands but your list comes off as Hipster to those people when you're trying to sell Shoegaze to people who want power chords.

I get Agalloch to a point but still think they're music doesn't fit the vocals most times. Alcest... no.

I recently heard Agalloch hasn't even sold 100 tickets to their Sonar show yet. Not a good sign...


BoOiIoOiIoOiING!!!! Can I MARRY YOU!

TehSuckUpPrince
02-15-2011, 02:15 PM
I'm driving 8 hours to see them in Cleveland. I think the opposite. Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that. But I don't think most metal listeners listen to music for the same reasons I do, hence why this kind of thing is equivocal.

Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the lyrics and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

illuminatus917
02-15-2011, 02:42 PM
Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the vocals and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.

RAZOR
02-15-2011, 02:50 PM
Their vocals always seem to match their music. With bands like Agalloch and Alcest, the vocals are more like a third instrument; it just contributes to the atmosphere and emotion of the sound. No power chord can capture that.

This. and I'll see you there, my friend. :cool:

smokebeer420
02-15-2011, 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by TehSuckUpPrince
Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the vocals and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.

i agree with the both of you.Its nice to know the lyrics because i like to be able to think of something in my head that i think would match the lyrics and go a little nuts headbanging to it,i also like insrtumentals cause its more chill and relaxingand its more lightly headbang.It really all depends on my mood.

RAZOR
02-15-2011, 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by TehSuckUpPrince
Its hard for me to get into something unless I know the lyrics and like them, even Trivium I didnt like until I was reading there lyrics, and then watched there live performances, I always said they have nice guitar riffs but the vocals chased me off.... Same thing with Vektor, I didnt like until I read the vocals and then seen the band, I need lyrics and some visual assurance.

This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.

i agree with the both of you.Its nice to know the lyrics because i like to be able to think of something in my head that i think would match the lyrics and go a little nuts headbanging to it,i also like insrtumentals cause its more chill and relaxingand its more lightly headbang.It really all depends on my mood.

You do know there's a quote button here, right? We're more advanced than the official Mayhem forums. ;)

smokebeer420
02-15-2011, 06:57 PM
i do now

idrinkwine732
02-15-2011, 07:16 PM
In Wine's defense he does put a lot of thought into his picks so I give him credit for that. he knows music I just think trying to be hip went to his head a little.

Wait...what?

DethMaiden
02-15-2011, 10:25 PM
Yeah dude...I dunno either. I guess we have agendas when we decide what to like.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 04:38 AM
This is why I say I listen to music for different reasons than most people. I haven't even looked up Vektor's lyrics, I just know I like their music. In most cases, I don't even view music and vocals as linked elements to a sound. It's only when we get vocals that actually act as an instrument that I'd say they're really "musical." I prefer instrumental music to music with vocals these days. Instrumental bands just seem to have their priorities straight.

Lyrics are a non-factor for me.

You are missing out with the vektor lyrics, there pretty sick... All about astrophysics, future warfare and how we are just a spec in the universe.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 05:00 AM
Wine isn't trying to be hip, he likes to consider himself enlightened. He is a try hard snob as evidenced by his name "idrinkwine", he is only 18 years old, he is more in love with the thought of being an expert, then he is of the actual music... I bet you half the shit he says he doesn't even like, he is a fraud, a fake, a poser, and if he acts in RL how he acts on here, he wouldn't be to liked, more than likely he would have gotten beaten the fuck up, I'd like to get in a conversation with him, and show him what real snide is.

Dextrimental
02-16-2011, 06:35 AM
Can't say I have ever really noticed anything bad about Wines opinions or posts on here, maybe I just dont pay enough attention..

Anyway, I can't say I ahve an agenda when it comes to liking music, I just like what I view to be good music. The whole elitist view of how we should like or listen to music is honestly quite pathetic, noone can control what they like, what they can control is what they allow themselves to know aout it, or what they allow themselves to check out. I've honestly found that most people who preach about being open-minded, are some of the most close-minded there is.

idrinkwine732
02-16-2011, 07:16 AM
Wine isn't trying to be hip, he likes to consider himself enlightned. He is a try hard snob as evidenced by his name "idrinkwine", he is only 18 years old, he is more in love with being an expert, then he is of the actual music... I bet you half the shit he says he doesn't even like, he is a fraud, a fake, a poser, and if he acts in RL how he acts on here, he wouldn't be to liked, more than likely he would have gotten beaten the fuck up, I'd like to get in a conversion with him, and show him what real snide is.

:tp:

If by try hard, you mean I try hard to find music I enjoy, then yes. I by no means consider myself an expert in anything, because, as you said, I'm quite young. You're only saying I'm a "fraud" because I think bands like Trivium suck. Also, if you want to look into how I act off of the internet, ask Cheeze. He's the only one to have met me so far.

Also, the idrinkwine name's origin is pretty evident to anyone who's met me before.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 07:58 AM
:tp:

If by try hard, you mean I try hard to find music I enjoy, then yes. I by no means consider myself an expert in anything, because, as you said, I'm quite young. You're only saying I'm a "fraud" because I think bands like Trivium suck. Also, if you want to look into how I act off of the internet, ask Cheeze. He's the only one to have met me so far.

Also, the idrinkwine name's origin is pretty evident to anyone who's met me before.


Well there you have it you are a try hard snob on the internet, if you are afraid to push your views in person, then dont do it on the internet and not expect to be called out about it. You couldnt handle yourself in a real conversation with me, be happy you have your keyboard and mouse. :allan:

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 08:03 AM
Can't say I have ever really noticed anything bad about Wines opinions or posts on here, maybe I just dont pay enough attention..

Anyway, I can't say I ahve an agenda when it comes to liking music, I just like what I view to be good music. The whole elitist view of how we should like or listen to music is honestly quite pathetic, noone can control what they like, what they can control is what they allow themselves to know aout it, or what they allow themselves to check out. I've honestly found that most people who preach about being open-minded, are some of the most close-minded there is.

Wine likes forcing crap on others, it prolly the whole reason why he seeks out new music, just so he can throw it your face. He does have some good taste, but to actually seek out music just for the fact he can brag about it and push it.... He isnt in it for the love of music, he is in it for his on egotistical self.

Dextrimental
02-16-2011, 08:07 AM
Also, the idrinkwine name's origin is pretty evident to anyone who's met me before.

What is the origin of your name actually?

DethMaiden
02-16-2011, 08:42 AM
Wine isn't trying to be hip, he likes to consider himself enlightened. He is a try hard snob as evidenced by his name "idrinkwine", he is only 18 years old, he is more in love with the thought of being an expert, then he is of the actual music... I bet you half the shit he says he doesn't even like, he is a fraud, a fake, a poser, and if he acts in RL how he acts on here, he wouldn't be to liked, more than likely he would have gotten beaten the fuck up, I'd like to get in a conversation with him, and show him what real snide is.

Well there you have it you are a try hard snob on the internet, if you are afraid to push your views in person, then dont do it on the internet and not expect to be called out about it. You couldnt handle yourself in a real conversation with me, be happy you have your keyboard and mouse. :allan:

Wine likes forcing crap on others, it prolly the whole reason why he seeks out new music, just so he can throw it your face. He does have some good taste, but to actually seek out music just for the fact he can brag about it and push it.... He isnt in it for the love of music, he is in it for his on egotistical self.

You've gotta be fucking kidding me with this bullshit.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 08:53 AM
:allan:

smokebeer420
02-16-2011, 09:15 AM
Wine likes forcing crap on others, it prolly the whole reason why he seeks out new music, just so he can throw it your face. He does have some good taste, but to actually seek out music just for the fact he can brag about it and push it.... He isnt in it for the love of music, he is in it for his on egotistical self.

telling people about band is completey different from forcing them upon someone.You push bands more on people when keep bragging about how good you thought trivuim is than i ever have seen wine do.

Sepultura69
02-16-2011, 09:20 AM
What is the origin of your name actually?

He Drinks Wine?...That's what I thought :hecho:

I'm probably wrong :hecho:

Natrlhi
02-16-2011, 09:43 AM
Wine isn't trying to be hip, he likes to consider himself enlightened. He is a try hard snob as evidenced by his name "idrinkwine", he is only 18 years old, he is more in love with the thought of being an expert, then he is of the actual music...We are aware of Wine's age, and it's irrelevant. He expresses himself clearly and intelligently, and has fairly broad taste in music, which earns him a lot of respect around here. Can't say the same for you, though.


You couldnt handle yourself in a real conversation with me, be happy you have your keyboard and mouse. :allan:

:allan:
Yeah. Who's the one trying to represent himself as a badass? Sound like it's you, bud. Just sayin'.

Wine likes forcing crap on othersI've not seen him do this even one time since he's been here, and I've been actively involved in many conversations with him since that time. Your (alleged) evidence must be coming from somewhere else.

it prolly the whole reason why he seeks out new music, just so he can throw it your face. He does have some good taste, but to actually seek out music just for the fact he can brag about it and push it.... He isnt in it for the love of music, he is in it for his on egotistical self.This is just ludicrous. Who the fuck has the time - not to mention the motivation - to do something like this? Are you fucking kidding me?


I predict you'll self-destruct on this forum within about two weeks. We've seen your type here before, and none of you tends to last very long. If I were you, I'd start looking for a new place to post. That's not a threat - just an honest recommendation. You surely don't seem to be fitting in too well around here.

RAZOR
02-16-2011, 10:36 AM
See Prince, this is why no one wants you on any forum you join.

Wine is a cool dude, and he knows what he knows very well. There's no need to call him out on anything.

I predict you'll self-destruct on this forum within about two weeks. We've seen your type here before, and none of you tends to last very long. If I were you, I'd start looking for a new place to post. That's not a threat - just an honest recommendation. You surely don't seem to be fitting in too well around here.

I promise you, he won't leave on his own, even if he doesn't fit in. I know this firsthand. >>

IrritatedTrout
02-16-2011, 10:55 AM
What the fuck is up with the huge influx of half-literate assholes with shit taste here recently? Goddamn Mayhem forums.:mad:

Wizzbang11
02-16-2011, 11:26 AM
Also, if you want to look into how I act off of the internet, ask Cheeze. He's the only one to have met me so far.



Incorrect :cool:


I'm with trout.
These people suck, the only good ones and Ryan and Noga.

Did one of you make a "Hey everyone check out Metalsetlists!" thread or something?

smokebeer420
02-16-2011, 11:40 AM
Incorrect :cool:


I'm with trout.
These people suck, the only good ones and Ryan and Noga.

Did one of you make a "Hey everyone check out Metalsetlists!" thread or something?
i cam eover here because i wanted to learn of some good new bands and all the people at the mayhem site where scene kids that kept posting the same warped tour type lineups and alot of them bashed some of the classic metal bands such as maiden and i didnt want to be apart of that.plus the people on this site have way better taste in music and the ones i dont agree with musically arent dicks and bash other peoples bands.but thats just my reason.

RAZOR
02-16-2011, 11:41 AM
Incorrect :cool:


I'm with trout.
These people suck, the only good ones and Ryan and Noga.

Did one of you make a "Hey everyone check out Metalsetlists!" thread or something?

:D

I don't remember any thread like that being made on the Vanilla forums, granted there may have been one made on the Official ones (and if I'm remembering right I think there was some mention of this place on there a couple times).

Natrlhi
02-16-2011, 11:43 AM
I promise you, he won't leave on his own, even if he doesn't fit in. I know this firsthand. >>Well sure, but that's always the way it is with assholes. They usually end up getting banned. Tick tock, tick tock.

What the fuck is up with the huge influx of half-literate assholes with shit taste here recently? Goddamn Mayhem forums.:mad:I was about to ask the same thing.

Dextrimental
02-16-2011, 12:46 PM
As always, Nat comes in and pwns the n00bs!

But yeah, it's getting somewhat irritating. I've been on here just going on two years, and even I've noticed the amount of not just arugments, but personal attacks sky rocket. It used to be somewhat funny and all!

Wizzbang11
02-16-2011, 01:12 PM
:D

I don't remember any thread like that being made on the Vanilla forums, granted there may have been one made on the Official ones (and if I'm remembering right I think there was some mention of this place on there a couple times).

Well can you at least get them to leave?
:snivel:

RAZOR
02-16-2011, 01:20 PM
Well can you at least get them to leave?
:snivel:

Maybe I'm just used to stupid people on forums, but I really haven't noticed a lot of them. Which ones are they?

Wizzbang11
02-16-2011, 01:23 PM
idrinkwine
RAZOR
------
Smokebeer
Vehemence
FreshPrince
Blindgaurdian
Slapguitar
???

RAZOR
02-16-2011, 01:28 PM
Well Slapguitar and Blindguardian are pretty cool, I can vouch for them. The others? Ehhhh.

Natrlhi
02-16-2011, 01:59 PM
idrinkwine
SlapguitarI take it you're joking here. Slappy likes some damn good stuff, and never started shit with anybody. He stays f'shizzle.

That Wine prick has got to go, though - forcing his got damn fake hipster musical opinion on others and whatnot all the time.
I mean, I'm literally starting to not want to come around here anymore because of him. :snivel:

Almost.

Wizzbang11
02-16-2011, 02:05 PM
I take it you're joking here. Slappy likes some damn good stuff, and never started shit with anybody. He stays f'shizzle.

That Wine prick has got to go, though - forcing his got damn fake hipster musical opinion on others and whatnot all the time.
I mean, I'm literally starting to not want to come around here anymore because of him. :snivel:

Almost.

Well I separeted Ryan from the rest with a bunch of "-"s!
I havent paid attnetion to slappy, I just know from this thread he comes from there.

TehSuckUpPrince
02-16-2011, 04:35 PM
Well Slapguitar and Blindguardian are pretty cool, I can vouch for them. The others? Ehhhh. Well thank yeh, makin me feel all sad inside. :boohoo:

slapguitarer
02-16-2011, 05:19 PM
Incorrect :cool:


I'm with trout.
These people suck, the only good ones and Ryan and Noga.

Did one of you make a "Hey everyone check out Metalsetlists!" thread or something?

:snivel: I didn't do nothing wrong...

Well Slapguitar and Blindguardian are pretty cool, I can vouch for them. The others? Ehhhh.

Thank you! :D

I take it you're joking here. Slappy likes some damn good stuff, and never started shit with anybody. He stays f'shizzle.


And thank you! :D

I can vouch for smokebeer420 and Blindguardian. They're both cool dudes.

Wizzbang11
02-16-2011, 07:25 PM
:snivel: I didn't do nothing wrong...




Sorry! I keep forgetting you're a thing. There's nothing wrong with you, that I know of.