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Stubble
12-02-2010, 04:44 PM
1. War of Wrath
2. Into the Storm
3. Welcome to Dying
4. Born In a Mourning Hall
5. Nightfall
6. Fly
7. Time Stands Still
8. Banish From Sanctuary
9. Bright Eyes
10. Lord of the Rings
11. Voice in the Dark
12. And the Story Ends
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13. Wheel of Time
14. The Bard's Song (In the Forest)
15. Valhalla
16. Mirror Mirror

Great show, BUT...I had seen that they performed And Then There Was Silence previously on this tour. Crushed isn't the word to describe how I felt when I heard they were finishing with And the Story Ends. They could have thrown a dart at their discography and come up with a better finisher than this mid-tempo snoozer.

Luckily Wheel of Time snapped me back; those last 4 are a hell of an encore. And I could watch Andre play guitar all night...which is kinda what I did.

maidenpriest
12-02-2010, 04:46 PM
And the Story Ends is a pretty weak main set closer imo. Cool that they did Into the Storm again

DethMaiden
12-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Dude, And the Story Ends is awesome. No, it's not ATTWS, but it rules.

Travis The Dragon
12-02-2010, 04:50 PM
I don't know how anyone can complain about any BG setlist ever!

Northern_Shaman
12-02-2010, 05:14 PM
Interesting that they opened again with Into The Storm. Was there time constraints at this show too? Sucks that Sacred Worlds was dropped, but great set nonetheless. 'And The Story Ends' is a great song, but I can see how you'd prefer something... Different as a main set closer. I'd personally love it though :p.

idrinkwine732
12-02-2010, 05:21 PM
No Sacred Worlds??? :(

Maiden33
12-02-2010, 05:34 PM
If this had Sacred in it, it would absolutely be my favorite of the tour thus far. And the Story Ends = fucking amazing.

xStructualDefect
12-02-2010, 05:40 PM
some will probably disagree with me, but i really hope they keep War of Wrath/Into The Storm as the opener for the rest of the tour. Into The Storm should be a staple imo.

Maiden33
12-02-2010, 05:47 PM
some will probably disagree with me, but i really hope they keep War of Wrath/Into The Storm as the opener for the rest of the tour. Into The Storm should be a staple imo.

IMO, this band needs less staples, not more. The thing that I think brings them down the most is that half their set is staples. For a band that only tours once every 4 years, has 9 albums, and only plays 15 songs per show - that's NOT very good.

Mirror Mirror, Nightfall, Imaginations, and The Bard's Song, are IMO the only songs BG should play all the time. They do a good job of rotating so I don't wanna bitch up a storm here, but I definitely think less staples would help. Then again, they did do that for Europe. But like most bands, they (rightfully) assume the US is full of whiny fans who only want the same songs over and over again - which is why this set wound up looking FREAKISHLY like the 2006 set, with new songs in it.

darkguardian50
12-02-2010, 06:07 PM
they (rightfully) assume the US is full of whiny fans
Irony is an awesome thing.

Great set. And the Story Ends is imo a better song than ATTWS. ATTWS is ok but there are about a dozen other BG songs I like more and considering its length you can get two great songs for the price of that one.

At least BG is changing their set every night, something I can't say for some other bands. I don't think they have had a duplicate set so far this tour.

Maiden33
12-02-2010, 06:14 PM
Irony is an awesome thing.

Great set. And the Story Ends is imo a better song than ATTWS. ATTWS is ok but there are about a dozen other BG songs I like more and considering its length you can get two great songs for the price of that one.

At least BG is changing their set every night, something I can't say for some other bands. I don't think they have had a duplicate set so far this tour.

Well, make no mistake - I don't think what they're doing is a bad set by any stretch of the imagination. My point was mostly that US audiences are generally the sort who will go to shows, expecting to hear every "staple"/"hit"/"classic" a band has, with very low tolerance for anything different. If they don't get what they want, they whine and do stupid things like boo and throw beer at the stage.

I've just noticed that often times when European bands come to America, they dumb down their setlists - laying off of rotation, and sticking much more closely to the aforementioned staples/hits/classics. Saxon in 2009 was the biggest case of this I've ever seen. Still an incredible show, but seriously.

maidenpriest
12-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Edguy seems to be another band that dumbs down their set for America, they always seem to play songs like Tears of a Mandrake and not play deeper songs like Until We Rise Again like they did in Europe.

Maiden33
12-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Edguy seems to be another band that dumbs down their set for America, they always seem to play songs like Tears of a Mandrake and not play deeper songs like Until We Rise Again like they did in Europe.

Yep. They played The motherfucking Pharaoh in Europe in 2009 and dumped it for America. They also have only played The Piper Never Dies three times on American soil.

maidenpriest
12-02-2010, 08:08 PM
didnt they play the headless game on that tour too? and thats stupid that is such a great song

MPF
12-02-2010, 08:21 PM
Even thought Minneapolis got dicked 2 songs, I do like our set better.

Spiner202
12-03-2010, 09:44 AM
And the Story Ends is quite possibly my favourite BG song. I thought the Toronto set was good, but I would have taken And the Story Ends over And Then There Was Silence anytime.

JLRedWing13
12-03-2010, 06:06 PM
And The Story Ends....lucky.

metalmilitia54
12-04-2010, 10:25 AM
I wish they would play more songs of At the Edge of Time... isn't this the tour for the album afterall? Even with that said - this is BLIND GUARDIN, which is a show I will always enjoy even if they leave some songs I'd prefer to hear.

brian
12-04-2010, 02:41 PM
Yes, the reason Euro bands "dumb down" setlists on US tours is because American audiences are dumb. Has nothing to do with them touring in Europe 10x more and crowds having more of a chance to catch their favorite bands and hearing their favorite songs.

Bands play 'staple' sets in America because they don't tour here often, so they try to play the songs most people want to hear. It'd be cool to hear some deep cuts. Don't expect it.