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Dmitry Kulikov
09-13-2010, 07:00 PM
1. Bark At The Moon
2. Let Me Hear You Scream
3. Mr.Crowley
4. I Don't Know
5. War Pigs
6. Suicide Solution
7. Road To Nowhere
8. Rat Salad (guitar & drum solo)
9. Shot In The Dark
10. Iron Man
11. Killer Of Giants
12. I Don't Want To Change The World
13. Fairies Wear Boots
14. Crazy Train
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15. Mama I'm Coming Home
16. Paranoid
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17. Into The Void
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18. Flying High Again

And some our pics from this concert

http://headbanger.ru/fmst/files/data/49961.jpg

All pics are here
http://headbanger.ru/reports/3241?show_images=1
Photos: Natalie "Snakeheart" Patrashova
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300%_Density
09-13-2010, 07:08 PM
Hands down best Ozzy set in recent memory? Flying High Again? Get the fuck out!!! Amazing!!!!

Maiden33
09-13-2010, 07:13 PM
Christ, with a setlist like that and Halford opening, I officially have the best chance I've ever had at wanting to see Ozzy. :lol:

JRA
09-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Oh how I wish that set was in standard tuning. (well everything that isn't Into The Void mind you.)

bt11763
09-13-2010, 07:33 PM
http://headbanger.ru/fmst/files/data/49961.jpg



is anyone else really concerned as to what the hell is going on under that shirt?

treghet
09-13-2010, 07:38 PM
is anyone else really concerned as to what the hell is going on under that shirt?

I noticed that too.

Sanitarium78
09-13-2010, 07:41 PM
Very nice set. It definitly seems like Ozzy has got in good shape for this tour given the length of the sets so far. Why would anyone be surprised by him doing FHA? That's been a setlist staple for most of his career.

Kapper
09-13-2010, 07:57 PM
Oh how I wish that set was in standard tuning. (well everything that isn't Into The Void mind you.)

What tuning do they play Into The Void in these days? Still C#?

davidis138
09-14-2010, 03:06 AM
Over the Mountain would make this set complete

Maidenmagic
09-14-2010, 03:11 AM
He needs to put the last four songs in one encore then saying "Goodnight" three times before the set is finished. Yes, Over the mountain would rule!

maidenpriest
09-14-2010, 12:30 PM
if he did Diary of a Madman and Over the Mountain as well as most of this set i would definitely be there

makethemsuffer12
09-14-2010, 12:57 PM
What tuning do they play Into The Void in these days? Still C#?

Nope, they play it in D, along with the rest of the set. Honestly, all of his songs sound great in that tuning, so I don't get what JRA is saying.

But shit, he hasn't played Flying High Again in quite some time.

JRA
09-14-2010, 01:41 PM
Nope, they play it in D, along with the rest of the set. Honestly, all of his songs sound great in that tuning, so I don't get what JRA is saying.

But shit, he hasn't played Flying High Again in quite some time.


Fuck you you're wrong. One of my biggest pet peeves in music is when artists play songs in the wrong key, be it higher or lower.

makethemsuffer12
09-14-2010, 01:48 PM
Fuck you you're wrong. One of my biggest pet peeves in music is when artists play songs in the wrong key, be it higher or lower.

Do you honestly think Ozzy can sing those songs in E tuning nowadays?

Also, Shot in the Dark was originally recorded in Eb :finger:

JRA
09-14-2010, 02:22 PM
If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.

makethemsuffer12
09-14-2010, 02:46 PM
If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.

And who the fuck are you to say what key is "proper" or not. He's the artist, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. No need to get all butthurt over something that you can't control, no matter how much you bitch.

JRA
09-14-2010, 02:54 PM
The keys that the songs are played on the albums are the proper keys.

TonyD
09-14-2010, 03:15 PM
If you can't sing the songs in the proper key, get the fuck off the stage.

Ok, how old are you?

Sanitarium78
09-14-2010, 03:25 PM
Voices change over time there's no way Ozzy or most singers can sing a song in the same key they did almost 40 years ago. It's just not humanly possible. The male voice goes through 3 or 4 significant changes during a persons life. You can't change that, it's just a natural thing.

Bands need to change keys for songs over time so it's easier for a singer to do them and they don't blow out their voice. Can you imagine if Rush still did Temples Of Syrinx in the same key live as on the original recording? Geddy would've lost his voice years ago.

It's the same with Ozzy. The key needs to be changed so he's still able to perform every night.

JRA
09-14-2010, 03:31 PM
The problem with that logic is the riffs suffer, and they suffer horribly. When you hear a riff and love a riff it becomes part of your DNA. Speed changes don't bother me so much and it can actually become beneficial to the song (see Unleashed In The East for a primary example). Key and melody changes however, are unignorable. Melody and key is the essence of song, and the problem with key shifting is that it hits some truly atrocious notes and the songs become unlistenable. 2112 sounds like a fucking mess when it's downtuned. Same with The Mob Rules. I was actually happy I missed that song when I went to see Heaven & Hell because that riff sounds like its being raped. and it's not just tuning down. I was watching a 78 Sabbath show and rather than having guitar techs doing their job and tuning separate guitars for the appropriate songs, they just played everything in standard. Children of The Grave, my all time favorite Sabbath song, was unlistenable in this key.

Also, if voices go through so many goddamn changes, then why the hell was Rob Halford able to nail every single note on the Judas Priest songs on Live Insurrection, when he was fucking 50?

Like I said, either you play the song in the right key, or you stop touring, it's as simple is that (or in Geddy Lee's case, he can just sing that song in a pirate voice :D) Honestly, I could care less how singers sound in old age, but when you fuck with the riffs, that's capital punishment grounds.

makethemsuffer12
09-14-2010, 04:04 PM
The problem with that logic is the riffs suffer, and they suffer horribly. When you hear a riff and love a riff it becomes part of your DNA. Speed changes don't bother me so much and it can actually become beneficial to the song (see Unleashed In The East for a primary example). Key and melody changes however, are unignorable. Melody and key is the essence of song, and the problem with key shifting is that it hits some truly atrocious notes and the songs become unlistenable. 2112 sounds like a fucking mess when it's downtuned. Same with The Mob Rules. I was actually happy I missed that song when I went to see Heaven & Hell because that riff sounds like its being raped. and it's not just tuning down. I was watching a 78 Sabbath show and rather than having guitar techs doing their job and tuning separate guitars for the appropriate songs, they just played everything in standard. Children of The Grave, my all time favorite Sabbath song, was unlistenable in this key.

Also, if voices go through so many goddamn changes, then why the hell was Rob Halford able to nail every single note on the Judas Priest songs on Live Insurrection, when he was fucking 50?

Like I said, either you play the song in the right key, or you stop touring, it's as simple is that (or in Geddy Lee's case, he can just sing that song in a pirate voice :D) Honestly, I could care less how singers sound in old age, but when you fuck with the riffs, that's capital punishment grounds.

I think someone needs to fucking relax.

DethMaiden
09-14-2010, 05:41 PM
I think someone needs to fucking relax.

Agreed. But he won't. Being a stickler about stupid shit in live performances is his favorite pastime. Whatever, I'll go headbang and enjoy myself at shows, and you can stand in the back and whine about how it doesn't sound like it does on the CD.

300%_Density
09-14-2010, 05:41 PM
Pretty sure I read stuff the last few years that Halford isn't hitting the notes like he used to either. Neither one deserve to catch shit for it to begin with. Ozzy gets hated on b/c people hate Sharon therefore its cool to hate Ozzy apparently while nobody would say anything about Halford. I love them both and greatful they are still doing it.

How can you make a case using a live album when we all know there is no editing or overdubbing going on (heavy sarcasm). Listen to him doing Painkiller on the Touch of Evil live cd a few years ago. You can hear his voice isn't quite there but he's well into his 50s at this point. How horrible, he's changing his tuning so he can still perform in front of people that still want to see him. I can't think of anything worse than that.

PlaysWithKnives
09-14-2010, 05:45 PM
Another good set from Ozzy. Hopefully he comes around these parts when he does the tour with Halford. I probably would have gone anyway, but sets like these makes it a definite.

JRA
09-14-2010, 06:10 PM
Let me put it this way, if you were seeing Deep Purple in concert, and the notes to the riff of Smoke On The Water were in a completely different key, people would riot. Same thing for Iron Man. I don't see why I should feel any different about any other song. I suppose when an artist is too old to sing in the proper key he's too old to be on stage.

And Brad, unlike you, I have standards ;)

Dissimulate
09-14-2010, 06:24 PM
Playing tuned down is usually fine as long as it's not stupidly more (more than a step) or Seek and Destroy. Tuning up never works. Listen to anything Priest did with Ripper live, the Halford material sounds fine but the stuff in C is neutered. Tuning up 1.5 steps would sound unbelievably shitty. Furthermore, any band that actually uses different tunings can afford to have multiple guitars for the different tunings.

EDIT: This goes triple for anybody playing arenas.

DethMaiden
09-14-2010, 06:25 PM
And Brad, unlike you, I have standards ;)

Keep your standards. I'll have fun. :tongue:

JRA
09-14-2010, 06:28 PM
Heres another example, say the tuning that band plays the song in sounds better than the version that's on the album? Then your completely fucked because your memory of that can only last so long and your love of that song is completely tarnished for ever because it will never again be as good as that version. Unless they release a live album of that tour or something.


Playing tuned down is usually fine as long as it's not stupidly more (more than a step) or Seek and Destroy. Tuning up never works. Listen to anything Priest did with Ripper live, the Halford material sounds fine but the stuff in C is neutered. Tuning up 1.5 steps would sound unbelievably shitty. Furthermore, any band that actually uses different tunings can afford to have multiple guitars for the different tunings.

EDIT: This goes triple for anybody playing arenas.


This is usually what I'm referring to. A half step isn't too bad but Ozzy fucking downtunes like 3 steps. And you're dead on with Seek & Destroy. Goddamit that song sounds horrible now. Why the fuck do they tune it that low? Hetfield has never sung a single high note in his life.

mankvill
09-14-2010, 06:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aATGSdy82FM

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makethemsuffer12
09-14-2010, 07:17 PM
Let me put it this way, if you were seeing Deep Purple in concert, and the notes to the riff of Smoke On The Water were in a completely different key, people would riot. Same thing for Iron Man.
You do realize that most people at these concerts probably wouldn't even realize if it wasn't played in the original key, right? Not everyone has a trained ear or a knowledge of music. There were certainly no riots when Iron Man and Paranoid were played an ungodly whole step down (oh noooooo) at Ozzfest this summer.
Heres another example, say the tuning that band plays the song in sounds better than the version that's on the album? Then your completely fucked because your memory of that can only last so long and your love of that song is completely tarnished for ever because it will never again be as good as that version. Unless they release a live album of that tour or something.


Not necessarily. I thought Arsis' "We are the Nightmare" sounded better in Eb live as opposed to standard E on the album, but does that mean that I would listen to the studio version with disgust? Hell no.

This is usually what I'm referring to. A half step isn't too bad but Ozzy fucking downtunes like 3 steps.

Ummmm, no he doesn't. he only tunes to D live.

TonyD
09-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Let me put it this way, if you were seeing Deep Purple in concert, and the notes to the riff of Smoke On The Water were in a completely different key, people would riot. Same thing for Iron Man.

Uhhh... that's bullshit.

Not everyone ages like wine. Obviously people are still paying to see Ozzy that know he is tuning down a bit (even though there are still plenty of other reasons not to).

bt11763
09-14-2010, 07:38 PM
http://boards.40cakes.com/b/src/128268244762.jpg

EvilCheeseWedge
09-15-2010, 07:34 AM
I'm pretty sure "Iron Man", along with everything else that wasn't already in C#, was down-tuned when I saw Sabbath in 2004 and 2005. (And it was definitely down-tuned when Dio was in the band.) And I highly doubt 98% of the people noticed, let alone rioted, especially considering a shit ton of old Sabbath material is already in C# (Or in Dio's case, Eb.) Plus songs like "Black Sabbath" lend themselves to down-tuning. I mean, in the end you're literally getting upset over a half-step/one-step change in tuning. That's literally playing one key lower on a piano.

As an aside, I'd also bet that when Ian Gillan was in Black Sabbath that when they covered "Smoke in the Water" it was probably slightly down-tuned too.

I eagerly await reports of rioting.

(Also: if this Ozzy set list remains, I'm thinking I may have to see the Halford/Ozzy tour.)

JRA
09-15-2010, 07:57 AM
I never said everything should be in standard. :lol:

JLRedWing13
09-15-2010, 09:32 AM
Downtuning doesn't bother me at all.... :eyes:

Sanitarium78
09-15-2010, 04:48 PM
Downtuning doesn't bother me at all.... :eyes:

Me neither but that might be because i'm not a musician so I don't think about it from a musical standpoint. I think tuning some songs down live give it a more darker and sinister tone and can help you see the song in a different way after. I don't consider that a bad thing at all.