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treghet
07-30-2010, 08:02 PM
In the eyes of some of the members here, this may be a controversial topic, but I really hope to shed some light on the bands worth listening to in this genre. I am not a purist by any means and I don't feel deathcore is ruining metal. Sure, there are plenty of crap bands producing crap albums for dumb fans, but that does not effect the true underground metal scene. That being said, the point is this topic is not to be all preachy about why we should accept this genre. You can like it or hate it and I won't have a problem with you. I just want to share some of the top albums for anyone who is open to listen to them, but doesn't want to have to wade through a swamp of shit to find them.

Chances are, you've heard of a number of these bands at some point, but might not have heard their best material. Or, maybe you never gave them a chance due to the bad reputation of the genre. Honestly, I am not a big fan of all of these bands. I do not intend to only share my favorites. I want to give a variety of bands to choose from, since obviously we all have different tastes.

Before I get started I would like to say metalcore is NOT included in this list. Also, you are welcome to suggest albums to be added, but please note that I want this list to only contain one album per a band.

13. Viatrophy - Viatrophy (2009)

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This album isn't amazing or anything, but it is intense and have decent riffs. The vocals are typical high/low growls. There are breakdowns, but they aren't overly obnoxious. They aren't very good either, though. Despite the faults this is a very solid deathcore album, blending in hints of melodic death metal along the way. Link to song on YouTube: Treachery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nvx8ga0V1w).

12. As You Drown - Reflection (2009)

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Despite their terrible name, As You Drown is surprisingly decent. They hail from Sweden, and not surprisingly, they take a good amount of influence from their death metal peers. There is a lot of -core influence on this album, but it is not too overpowering, since the band can actually write good riffs. The vocals are mostly death growls, with an occasional higher scream. Overall, this is a good album, even though there are a lot of generic sounding parts. Link to song on YouTube: Ruins and Dead Ends (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mikA9Ag0Gl8). This is probably the most intense song on the album.

11. Hiroshima Will Burn - To the Weight of all Things (2009)

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While Hiroshima Will Burn does include some monotonous breakdowns in their songs, they don't overshadow the real talent of the band. This album is full of technical riffs and quick changes in pace. The drummer does a pretty good job behind his kit, too. While the vocals are nothing special, they work out well. This is a gem in technical deathcore. Link to song on YouTube: Enigmatic Consumption (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijKksQf9OSU).

10. Burning the Masses - Offspring of Time (2010)

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Burning the Masses's (Oh wow, that is a tongue twister, but grammatically correct, I think, since a band in singular.) first EP showed their ability to write technical music and then ruin it with mediocre shit. Their full length album was worse. Then early this year the band announced a new member, Cameron Argon. Many of you may recognize his name (and maybe strongly dislike him), but I believe he is actually a good vocalist. Sure, incredibly low, one-dimensional gutturals can be boring, but he does them better than most brutal death metal vocalists, in my opinion at least. Anyway, this album really shows the band's talent. They've dropped almost all of their -core influences in favor of technical death metal. It is not released yet, but you can check out new songs on their MySpace page, here (http://myspace.com/burningthemasses). And so you know, Cameron left the band shortly after their European tour with Suffocation. He was not intended to be a permanent member.

9. Burning Skies - Greed.Filth.Abuse.Corruption (2008)

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This could very well be the most surprising deathcore album I've heard. Burning Skies takes a LOT of influence from grindcore and blends it with some hardcore and death metal sections. The product is different from anything I've come across before. If that makes you curious, listen here: Rounding Up the Cattle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo9QfvjRvk0).

8. Despised Icon - The Healing Process (2005)

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Surely everyone knows this Quebecois deathcore act. Despised Icon went through some lineup changes after their first album. Their female vocalist left the band, so their drummer at the time, Alexandre Erian, stepped up to fill her spot. Now the band was left without a drummer, so they recruited Alex Pelletier. This was likely the best move in their career, as Pelletier is clearly the backbone of the band with his superior drumming. I chose The Healing Process to represent this band since I feel the riffs were more technical and well structured than on the two albums after it. If you haven't listened to this album before, here is one of my favorites from it: Harvesting the Deceased (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6vdsnRpvw).

7. Through the Eyes of the Dead - Skepsis (2010)

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I wouldn't doubt that many of you have heard about this album already, so I won't go into much detail. There are breakdowns on it, but they are interesting ones. The riffs are technical and skilled. The band has gone through several vocalists, and I haven't listened to all their material, so I can't say how good Danny is in comparison to the previous ones. Link to song on YouTube: Perpetual Defilement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9QCtYzECG0).

6. All Shall Perish - Awaken the Dreamers (2008)

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Here is another album you've probably heard already. This is All Shall Perish's third release and definitely their strongest. They've dropped most of the breakdowns and the vocalist has stopped doing pig squeals. Their second album seems to get a lot of praise, but I honestly believe it's shit compared to this one. Check out the title track here: Awaken the Dreamers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4EA4OJt18).

5. Diluvian - Epidemic (2010)

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Sorry this is yet another album that hasn't been released. It is due out at the end of summer, but I would like to include it here because from the two new songs on the band's MySpace I can tell it's going to be great. The songs flow very well and the riffs are great. The only problem I has is the pig squeals. While they are very infrequent, I still don't think they're necessary. I don't think they will put too big of a dent in the final product, though. So, check out the songs here (http://www.myspace.com/diluvianfr).

4. The Red Shore - Unconsecrated (2008)

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This band has been through some terrible times and I'm glad they stuck together and released this album. After the death of their vocalist and merch guy in December 2007 they decided it would be best to continue as a band. Bassist Jamie Hope filled the place of their former vocalist. About a year later their debut album was released. The album showed a dramatic change in style from their EP. Unconsecrated was much more technical, but retained their general sound. This is among the best of technical deathcore albums. I highly recommend checking it out. The drumming is spectacular and the riffs just keep coming. Here is the first song from the CD: The Garden of Impurity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TURb8NoueM).

3. The Faceless - Akeldama (2006)

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If you're a new fan of The Faceless you might not know that their debut album was more of technical deathcore than technical death metal. This album is a highlight in the genre as it contains some incredible songwriting. Although some of the riffs sound generic, overall it is done very well. An interesting note about this album is that four different drummers appeared on it. Even with the flaws, this album stands out as a great debut. Link to song on YouTube: Pestilence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpz1F32MIo).

2. Animosity - Animal (2007)

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This Bay Area deathcore band is a relentless force that will surely surpass your expectations. Animal was their last album before breaking up, and I believe it was their best. The songs are generally fast paced and contain interesting technical riffs and sometimes a very cool solo. Although it is a shame they broke up, guitarist Chase Fraser went on to start his own band Son of Aurelius and is currently touring with Decrepit Birth as their live guitarist. Navene Koperwies is now the session/live drummer for Animals as Leaders. Anyway, here is a song from the album: Terrorstorm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRtIHzt7Ej8).

1. The Red Chord - Fed Through the Teeth Machine (2009)

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The Red Chord is yet another well known band. Their early work includes more grind influences than the two recent albums. These ones focus more on technical death metal. While I enjoy all of their releases, I believe the most recent shows the progression of their style best. Fed Through the Teeth Machine is the band's best produced album and most diverse in sound. There are fast paced songs full of blasting and double bass, then there are slower melodic-like songs. The lyrics are interesting and each song seems to have a message behind it. If you haven't listened to this band you are missing out. Link to song on YouTube: Demoralizer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBNcAagvnw).

I hope some of you found this useful! :cool:

larvtard
07-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Hmmm I've listened to an As You Drown song before and I didn't think it was deathcore. I just thought it was awesome death metal.

That Burning Skies song is awesome :horns:

treghet
07-30-2010, 08:48 PM
I would agree that As You Drown is a death metal band, but they do have hardcore influence, so I included them. Listen to the song Ashes and there is a breakdown that starts at 0:45 that really reminds me of the style of breakdown a deathcore band would write.

mankvill
07-30-2010, 08:48 PM
"good deathcore"

no such thing

get that corn outta my face

treghet
07-30-2010, 08:49 PM
"good deathcore"

no such thing

get that corn outta my face

As I recall you've said multiple times that Animosity is a good deathcore band.

mankvill
07-30-2010, 08:54 PM
As I recall you've said multiple times that Animosity is a good deathcore band.

they didn't suck shit live

that's all i'm sayin'.

treghet
07-30-2010, 08:57 PM
they didn't suck shit live

that's all i'm sayin'.

Well, I will probably make another list soon... a death metal one. (old school death metal, not modern)

So then you can be satisfied. ;)

mankvill
07-30-2010, 09:01 PM
Well, I will probably make another list soon... a death metal one. (old school death metal, not modern)

So then you can be satisfied. ;)

:fist:

NecroRob
07-30-2010, 09:26 PM
[CENTER]10. Burning the Masses - Offspring of Time (2010)
[CENTER]7. Through the Eyes of the Dead - Skepsis (2010)
[CENTER]4. The Red Shore - Unconsecrated (2008)
[CENTER]3. The Faceless - Akeldama (2006)
[CENTER]1. The Red Chord - Fed Through the Teeth Machine (2009)


I like all these bands to a certain extent (The Faceless waaaay more than the others).

Well, I will probably make another list soon... a death metal one. (old school death metal, not modern)


DO IT. I'm always down to learn about some forgotten classics, and I could probably contribute a few.

treghet
07-30-2010, 09:35 PM
DO IT. I'm always down to learn about some forgotten classics, and I could probably contribute a few.

I'll get on that then! I'll start compiling a list of albums. It will be much longer than this list though, so I don't know exactly when I will have it ready to post.

ChildrenofSodom
07-30-2010, 09:52 PM
Ok. I'm confused. The Faceless and Hiroshima Will Burn (and Red Chord, but I don't know why they're on this list) are more "technical" than what I would consider deathcore. The first two sound enough like BTBAM and Red Chord for me to not hate them (I will have to listen to the other ones. I'm honestly curious now.)

So, my point is, what the fuck is deathcore then? Another band that showed up on the Hiroshima Will Burn video I watched as "The Juliet Massacre" which was all terrible single chord grinding *chug chug chug*, slow China cymbal-snare-China cymbal-snare, piq squeal, breakdown shit. So, are there two camps? The technical stuff in one corner, and then the shitty, unoriginal, non-technical, flat-bill cap, Emmure/Impending Doom crap? Cause I could get into the technical stuff, but I refuse to associate it with the other stuff.

treghet
07-30-2010, 09:57 PM
This is list is generally death metal with hardcore influence, versus bands like Oceano / Whitechapel / Suicide Silence / Carnifex, which are -core with the slightest imaginable metal influence.

So, I guess you could say it's split into two camps. Although, the camp of good bands is minuscule in comparison to the bad one.

ChildrenofSodom
07-30-2010, 10:02 PM
This is list is generally death metal with hardcore influence, versus bands like Oceano / Whitechapel / Suicide Silence / Carnifex, which are -core with the slightest imaginable metal influence.

So, I guess you could say it's split into two camps. Although, the camp of good bands is minuscule in comparison to the bad one.

Ok, so can you give me suggestions for bands to check out that sound like new The Faceless, Red Chord (Clients-era is all I'm familiar with), and new Between the Buried and Me?

EDIT: And Obscura. I'm putting them in that camp too.

treghet
07-30-2010, 10:12 PM
Ok, so can you give me suggestions for bands to check out that sound like new The Faceless, Red Chord (Clients-era is all I'm familiar with), and new Between the Buried and Me?

Well, Between the Buried and Me has a very distinct sound. Plus, I am not as familiar with the genre, so it would be hard for me to find another band like them.

I will look into finding something similar to Clients.

For something similar to newer The Faceless I really recommend the new Burning the Masses. The vocals are a different style, but the music has a similar feel to The Faceless. However, The Faceless is much better than them. Other bands to check out like them: Arkaik, Augury, Gorod, Son of Aurelius, and more recent Decrepit Birth. Sorry if you already listen to all those bands, I just can't think of anything else.

treghet
07-30-2010, 10:17 PM
I thought of a band similar to newer Between the Buried and Me, but they are instrumental. Scale the Summit. I assume you are looking for something with vocals, but check them out. They're really talented.

mankvill
07-30-2010, 10:46 PM
Deathcore: Autopsy, Asphyx, Gorguts

Technical Death Metal: Job For A Cowboy, Whitechapel, Winds Of Plague

treghet
07-30-2010, 10:48 PM
Deathcore: Autopsy, Asphyx, Gorguts

I hear they have totally sick breakdowns.

treghet
07-31-2010, 01:42 AM
Okay, so I came up with a total of 239 death metal albums... Is anyone actually interested in me posting that many or should I shorten the list by about 139 albums?

mastodon421
07-31-2010, 04:08 AM
Good list treghet. I really don't consider The Red Chord to be deathcore but besides that solid list. On a related note Sodom if your are looking for a good deathcore record check out Winds Of Plague's last record The Great Stone War. I loved it and I really don't think a lot of people have given it a fair chance. It's not a boring bree bree record there is a lot of symphonic metal influences on it and I thought it was a great record.

daimonos
07-31-2010, 07:16 AM
Ok, so can you give me suggestions for bands to check out that sound like new The Faceless, Red Chord (Clients-era is all I'm familiar with), and new Between the Buried and Me?

EDIT: And Obscura. I'm putting them in that camp too.

:confused:

ChildrenofSodom
07-31-2010, 08:50 AM
:confused:

They have that technical death metal sound. When I hear them and then XenoChrist, I can't help but compare.

daimonos
07-31-2010, 09:01 AM
They have that technical death metal sound. When I hear them and then XenoChrist, I can't help but compare.

Ah, I gotcha. I thought you were trying to say that they are a deathcore band ;)

Wizzbang11
07-31-2010, 10:19 AM
Okay, so I came up with a total of 239 death metal albums... Is anyone actually interested in me posting that many or should I shorten the list by about 139 albums?

I'd like to hear them, I've got a list of my own to supplement in case you forget any ;)

larvtard
07-31-2010, 10:22 AM
Okay, so I came up with a total of 239 death metal albums... Is anyone actually interested in me posting that many or should I shorten the list by about 139 albums?

Post 239. Only if you want to post that many... :tongue:

Dissimulate
07-31-2010, 10:51 AM
Deathcore doesn't have to be bad, it just usually ends up with faggy Bro-core images or excessive breakdowns. That death metal list better have some Swedish death metal and no melodic gayness.

elturtleboy
07-31-2010, 10:53 AM
"good deathcore"

no such thing

get that corn outta my face

:LOLFC: that was my favorite part of Nacho Libre.


deathcore sucks.....ok ok i like Handjob for a cowboy:eyes:

Wizzbang11
07-31-2010, 10:55 AM
Deathcore doesn't have to be bad, it just usually ends up with faggy Bro-core images or excessive breakdowns. That death metal list better have some Swedish death metal and no melodic gayness.

So where does Dismember fit, that kinda fits both descriptions :)

The best death metal was made between 1986 and 1996, and that's stretching it a little bit. The vast majority of albums made after that really can't compare.

The_jman
07-31-2010, 11:19 AM
can someone make a list for melotic death metal?

Wizzbang11
07-31-2010, 11:26 AM
can someone make a list for melotic death metal?

Bolt Thrower
At the Gates
Dismember
Arghoslent

I can't think of any others, there might be some though. Most of it sounds the same and is bad/boring.

mankvill
07-31-2010, 12:01 PM
Bolt Thrower
At the Gates
Dismember
Arghoslent

I can't think of any others, there might be some though. Most of it sounds the same and is bad/boring.

+Heartwork

Wizzbang11
07-31-2010, 12:08 PM
+Heartwork

Yeah, you are correct.

xStructualDefect
07-31-2010, 12:12 PM
can someone make a list for melotic death metal?

At The Gates
In Flames (pre RTR)
Dark Tranquillity
Arch Enemy
The Haunted
Kalmah
Amon Amarth
Children of Bodom (?)
Norther
Insomnium
Darkane
Mors Principim Est
Arsis (?)
Eternal Tears of Sorrow
Carcass (Heartwork album)
Black Dahlia Murder
Darkest Hour
Soilwork
Eluveitie
Scar Symmetry

if anyone wants recommendations for any band i'd gladly help out.

treghet
07-31-2010, 01:52 PM
Post 239. Only if you want to post that many... :tongue:

I think I'd rather post 100, because it will take forever to gather up all the album art and stuff. I will probably write some commentary on my favorite ones as well.

BUT, I will not leave out the other 139. I will post those after the main list without album artwork and information. That way the list of 100 is like the essential death metal albums. Does that sound good?

I'd like to hear them, I've got a list of my own to supplement in case you forget any ;)

If I follow the plan above you are welcome to add everything you can possibly think of. We can make the ultimate death metal list. :D

Crionics
08-01-2010, 06:24 AM
I've heard songs by most of these bands before and thought they were awful, but the songs you posted wern't nearly as bad.

Dissimulate
08-01-2010, 01:57 PM
Dismember and Bolt Thrower ARE NOT MELODETH. I don't know how you got that idea.

larvtard
08-01-2010, 05:17 PM
Dismember and Bolt Thrower ARE NOT MELODETH. I don't know how you got that idea.

Dismember is swedish death. Bolt Thrower is mid-tempo death. They have their melodic parts, though, I suppose.

I think I'd rather post 100, because it will take forever to gather up all the album art and stuff. I will probably write some commentary on my favorite ones as well.

BUT, I will not leave out the other 139. I will post those after the main list without album artwork and information. That way the list of 100 is like the essential death metal albums. Does that sound good?


Perfect :cool:

hubub454
08-01-2010, 08:26 PM
Good list treghet. I really don't consider The Red Chord to be deathcore but besides that solid list. On a related note Sodom if your are looking for a good deathcore record check out Winds Of Plague's last record The Great Stone War. I loved it and I really don't think a lot of people have given it a fair chance. It's not a boring bree bree record there is a lot of symphonic metal influences on it and I thought it was a great record.

I didnt care for Great Stone War but i thought that their 2008 Decimate the Weak was an incredible album. they are a great deathcore band, one of few

idrinkwine732
08-01-2010, 09:21 PM
I actually listened to Great Stone War and thought it was generic deathcore with "hur dee durp lets put some keys here derp hur" in there.

Citatet
08-01-2010, 10:54 PM
Melodeath or not..

But Deicide - Serpents of the Light is one badass album to say the least...

Dissimulate
08-02-2010, 12:18 PM
Melodeath or not..

But Deicide - Serpents of the Light is one badass album to say the least...
Did you just imply that Deicide are melodeath?

evildeadjedi
08-02-2010, 12:52 PM
can someone make a list for melotic death metal?

Sonic Syndicate
Amorphis (?)
Hypocrisy
Nightrage
Mercenary
Blood Stain Child (?)
Heaven Shall Burn
Deadlock
Diablo
Disarmonia Mundi
Neaera
Edge of Sanity
Before the Dawn
Blinded Colony
The Duskfall
myGRAIN
Noumena
Dethklok
Omnium Gatherum
Naildown
Skyfire
SuidAkrA
Imperanon

Just about every other band from Sweden, Norway or Finland.

Wizzbang11
08-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Dismember and Bolt Thrower ARE NOT MELODETH. I don't know how you got that idea.

I'm not talking about Realms of Chaos, later Bolt Thrower is super melodic, and so is Dismember. Melodic + death metal to me equals melo-death, after wikipediaing melodeath all the bands are shitty and what I was under the impression was metalcore or some other lame genre, so I guess I am wrong.

Wizzbang11
08-02-2010, 07:37 PM
Dismember is swedish death. Bolt Thrower is mid-tempo death. They have their melodic parts, though, I suppose.


I don't see how country of origin or tempo have any reflection on the level of melody in death metal. Especially country of origin. There are some fantastic old school death metal bands from Sweden and some absolutely terrible new ones who don't sound anything like the old.

larvtard
08-03-2010, 08:55 AM
I don't see how country of origin or tempo have any reflection on the level of melody in death metal. Especially country of origin. There are some fantastic old school death metal bands from Sweden and some absolutely terrible new ones who don't sound anything like the old.

Swedish death= Sunlight studios sound (Entombed, Dismember, Grave, etc.)
I'm not saying that Swedish death metal can't have melody, but it wouldn't be called melodic death if it has that Sunlight sound.

Citatet
08-03-2010, 09:35 AM
Did you just imply that Deicide are melodeath?

I guess I did. They are very melodic in parts, right? And was a kick-ass band (newer stuff is just so-so)

jd091
07-07-2011, 07:36 PM
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN NECROED

Okay, to be honest, this list is basically death metal bands that have the slightest trace of deathcore. I guess that qualifies them as deathcore so you can call them "good" deathcore, but other than Despised Icon, I don't really know how deathcore-y they are. Granted, I have yet to check out a couple lower down on the list, so take that with a grain of salt.

If I were to recommend "good deathcore", versus "death metal with core-ish elements", my list would look a little different. All good bands that you mentioned, though, especially the Red Chord.

treghet
07-07-2011, 07:41 PM
I don't know if you've got to The Red Shore song yet, but that album is incredible.

EDIT: I guess the video was removed, along with a bunch of others... New link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuiXgK_dGTM

hellawaits77ny
07-07-2011, 09:23 PM
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN NECROED

Okay, to be honest, this list is basically death metal bands that have the slightest trace of deathcore. I guess that qualifies them as deathcore so you can call them "good" deathcore, but other than Despised Icon, I don't really know how deathcore-y they are. Granted, I have yet to check out a couple lower down on the list, so take that with a grain of salt.

If I were to recommend "good deathcore", versus "death metal with core-ish elements", my list would look a little different. All good bands that you mentioned, though, especially the Red Chord.

You're right, most of these bands aren't deathcore. But there are some good bands discussed. BUT, Despised Icon is a true deathcore great. IMO the best pure deathcore band ever.

Ape
07-08-2011, 06:26 PM
At original post.

Despised icon is probably the worst out there in my mind I can not stand them and had trouble listening to them live. I wanted to leave the venue. I agree with all shall perish awaken the dreamers though. I also did not like skepsis by through the eyes of the dead the album before it was so much better. I love the red chord and they are very fun live.

I didn't read through the thread to see everyones opinion because frankly I'm feeling lazy but winds of plague should be added in there some where.

hellawaits77ny
07-08-2011, 07:29 PM
At original post.

Despised icon is probably the worst out there in my mind I can not stand them and had trouble listening to them live. I wanted to leave the venue.
.

Just out of curiosity, why?

Ape
07-08-2011, 08:51 PM
You know that term ignorant people use to describe some metal no matter what genre or sub genre, you know " it all sounds like a bunch of noise" . That's what despised icon is for me.

illuminatus917
07-08-2011, 08:53 PM
You know that term ignorant people use to describe some metal no matter what genre or sub genre, you know " it all sounds like a bunch of noise" . That's what despised icon is for me.

Did you just call yourself ignorant?

Ape
07-08-2011, 09:05 PM
Maybe I could have worded it better. Either way despised icon is just a bunch of noise to me.

treghet
07-08-2011, 11:37 PM
You're right, most of these bands aren't deathcore.

The albums aren't that stereotypical deathcore sound (Chelsea Grin) but they do have their share of -core elements, whether it be vocal style, breakdowns, or general songwriting. I'd have to say out of my list The Red Chord is probably the furthest from the genre, but they still have the -core vocals and some breakdowns, which is why a lot of people associate them with those bands.

OraclesofAgony
08-17-2011, 01:17 PM
Wow, that Animosity album is damn good.

powerslave_85
08-17-2011, 01:34 PM
Every time you guys start arguing about metalcore, deathcore, melo-death, etc etc etc my brain freezes and I get a "what is this i dont even" look on my face.

mankvill
08-17-2011, 01:40 PM
Every time you guys start arguing about metalcore, deathcore, melo-death, etc etc etc my brain freezes and I get a "what is this i dont even" look on my face.

why you put melodic death metal in with them core's (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻

treghet
08-17-2011, 01:42 PM
Wow, that Animosity album is damn good.

:fist: It seems like that album has been largely forgotten since they broke up a few years ago. :(

powerslave_85
08-17-2011, 01:49 PM
why you put melodic death metal in with them core's (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻
I dunno, it just seems like another sub-genre with extremely fuzzy distinctions aside from "being Carcass."

mankvill
08-17-2011, 01:53 PM
I dunno, it just seems like another sub-genre with extremely fuzzy distinctions aside from "being Carcass."

i need to school you

OraclesofAgony
08-17-2011, 02:08 PM
:fist: It seems like that album has been largely forgotten since they broke up a few years ago. :(

I never heard of them until now. It's a shame they're not still around, because this stuff would probably be amazing live.

mankvill
08-17-2011, 03:05 PM
I never heard of them until now. It's a shame they're not still around, because this stuff would probably be amazing live.

I saw them live. The bill was:

Job For A Cowboy
Hate Eternal
All Shall Perish
Animosity
Annotations Of An Autopsy

and Animosity remains the only good deathcore band I've ever seen live.