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maidenpriest
06-28-2010, 02:25 PM
According to rushisaband.com, they've gotten word from a few people that this set was heard during the rehearsals before tomorrow's show in Albuquerque. I'll confirm this set after the show to see if it was true or not but to all who are curious....



The Spirit of Radio
Time Stand Still
Presto
Stick it Out
Leave That Thing Alone
Workin Them Angels
Faithless
BU2B
Freewill
Marathon
Subdivisions
--------------------------
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YYZ
Limelight
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt
Vital Signs
Caravan
Drum Solo
Guitar Solo (Hope?)
Closer to the Heart
2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx
Far Cry

Encore:
La Villa Strangiato
Working Man

Source: http://www.rushisaband.com/display.php?id=2204#more

Indestructible
06-28-2010, 02:51 PM
that set works for me if its true

JLRedWing13
06-28-2010, 02:52 PM
:mad::mad::mad:

La Villa Strangiato, Marathon, Closer To The Heart, and Time Stand Still make for a great set...

maidenpriest
06-28-2010, 02:53 PM
:mad::mad::mad:

???

and i rather take out a few, like Presto or Faithless and throw in something off Grace Under Pressure (not represented!!! :mad:) or something from the 70s but oh well. i dont know the last set from Rush that ive been 100% happy with. this will still be an awesome show.

JLRedWing13
06-28-2010, 02:55 PM
???

I won't be able to see this tour. No Michigan date and none of the dates close by work out for me. Hopefully they'll keep it somewhat similar next year, with the exception of a couple more new songs...

evildeadjedi
06-28-2010, 02:58 PM
Wish I had the funds to go to this show, I'm happy with that setlist.

rjturtle9
06-28-2010, 02:58 PM
no Natural Science :bouville:

maidenpriest
06-28-2010, 03:03 PM
I won't be able to see this tour. No Michigan date and none of the dates close by work out for me. Hopefully they'll keep it somewhat similar next year, with the exception of a couple more new songs...

oh okay.

and ya no natural science but they played it last tour and Vapor Trails, not suprised that they didn't bring it back.

JLRedWing13
06-28-2010, 03:06 PM
Wasn't Jacob's Ladder supposed to be in the set too?

maidenpriest
06-28-2010, 03:08 PM
Wasn't Jacob's Ladder supposed to be in the set too?

yes...thats what Alex said in an interview anyways....:bouville:

rjturtle9
06-28-2010, 03:10 PM
and ya no natural science but they played it last tour and Vapor Trails, not suprised that they didn't bring it back.

Yeah, but since I have never seen them before, I demand they play all my favorite classic songs or else I will bitch and wine.

No Trees?!?! WTF!!!!

JLRedWing13
06-28-2010, 03:12 PM
Don't forget that they are touring more extensively next year, this is basically a B-sides kind of tour, which is why the omission of JL surprises me.

DethMaiden
06-28-2010, 03:13 PM
Jesus, that set's amazing. And I'm not crazy in thinking that the new stuff is Counterparts-inspired, hey there Leave That Thing Alone and Stick It Out.

jerry1013
06-28-2010, 04:10 PM
Perfect set, not a damn thing wrong with it. Can't wait to see it...

daimonos
06-28-2010, 04:29 PM
The whole set is awesome but one thing sticks out to me a little bit...




La Villa Strangiato


YES!

Sanitarium78
06-28-2010, 04:38 PM
The Spirit of Radio
Time Stand Still
Presto
Stick it Out
Leave That Thing Alone
Workin Them Angels
Faithless
BU2B
Freewill
Marathon
Subdivisions
--------------------------
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
YYZ
Limelight
The Camera Eye
Witch Hunt
Vital Signs
Caravan
Drum Solo
Guitar Solo (Hope?)
Closer to the Heart
2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx
Far Cry

Encore:
La Villa Strangiato
Working Man


If this is true I can drop dead right after the show when I see them in Saratoga Springs. I've seen them six times and have yet to hear TSS which will be awesome and HOLY FUCK PRESTO!!!!! Marathon and Camera Eye:drool:

I'm not gonna get too excited we have to wait and see what the actual set is tomorrow night. But the Maiden set that was leaked turned out to be right so i've got a strong feeling this will turn out to be true as well.

IrritatedTrout
06-28-2010, 06:28 PM
Bummer that Passage to Bangkok isn't in there but I know it was played on the last tour so oh well. Time Stand Still!

TonyD
06-28-2010, 07:13 PM
I can dig it!
I'd rather hear Armor and Sword than Faithless though.

Also, attn Iron Maiden: this is how you make a set.

Maiden33
06-28-2010, 07:34 PM
I can dig it!
I'd rather hear Armor and Sword than Faithless though.

Also, attn Iron Maiden: this is how you make a set.

I hate when people compare two bands' setlists like this. Apples and Oranges. Maiden plays an hour and 50 minutes, Rush plays 3 hours. If Maiden played an extra hour and thus 10-11 or so more songs, they could please a helluva lot more people.

Also, this current tour's setlist = one of the best Maiden have ever done. I will keep fighting that fight. If you don't like the new stuff that much, that's fine - but don't try to say it's NOT a good setlist for what it is, because it definitely is.

JRA
06-28-2010, 07:55 PM
Workin Them Angels sucks. I'd wish they'd drop that turd.

At least La Villa Strangiato and Working Man are back.

Blitzkrieg Witchcraft
06-28-2010, 07:59 PM
Nothing from Grace Under Pressure?

Lame. :flame:

TonyD
06-28-2010, 08:16 PM
I hate when people compare two bands' setlists like this. Apples and Oranges. Maiden plays an hour and 50 minutes, Rush plays 3 hours. If Maiden played an extra hour and thus 10-11 or so more songs, they could please a helluva lot more people.

Also, this current tour's setlist = one of the best Maiden have ever done. I will keep fighting that fight. If you don't like the new stuff that much, that's fine - but don't try to say it's NOT a good setlist for what it is, because it definitely is.

It's not apples and oranges, Rush consistently uses songs from their entire catalog and play a few of their "hits" every time. Closer to the Heart and Working Man weren't played on the last tour, but they brought them back this time. They pull songs out of the bag on every tour.

And what the fuck makes Maiden's current set good regardless of whether you like the new material or not? Playing over 2/3 of the set from less than a third of the catalog just sounds wrong, let alone the third that didn't create the fan base that it did. I loved the SBIT and Ozzfest shows, but does that make the sets good? No.

Workin Them Angels sucks. I'd wish they'd drop that turd.

At least La Villa Strangiato and Working Man are back.

That was one of the few songs I liked on the album.

maidenpriest
06-28-2010, 10:47 PM
if Maiden continually played the standards on almost every tour (like Rush does), Maiden would have like 7-8 songs to work with in terms of variety each time due to the amount of songs they play. Whereas Rush plays the same amount, maybe even a couple more standard songs, and they have like 12-13 songs to have variety with.

TonyD
06-28-2010, 11:37 PM
I'm not asking for Run to the Hills, NOTB, Wasted Years, etc. every time. I think I'm not alone in that I don't wanna hear 3-5 songs from 3-4 consecutive albums.

Maiden33
06-28-2010, 11:53 PM
I'm not asking for Run to the Hills, NOTB, Wasted Years, etc. every time. I think I'm not alone in that I don't wanna hear 3-5 songs from 3-4 consecutive albums.

No, the bullshit part is that if it was 3-5 songs from a certain 3-4 consecutive albums, no one would have a problem with it.

I'm so tired of arguing about this. What makes this setlist is good is that they're playing 6 songs that have only previously been played on one tour, and only 6 songs that have ever been played on more than 3 tours (one of which has been played incredibly sparingly over the past decade). Aside from album tours, this is the only tour they've ever done that has statistics looking like that. And sure, depending on which songs they chose to play, there'd be plenty of reason to bitch, because no one wants to see obscure, crappy, 90s songs. But the reunion albums are more than well-received overall, and the songs they're playing on this tour are pretty much the best-received songs from those albums. The hardcore fans shouldn't have a problem with this setlist given everything I just said, and the casual fans are still getting 6 hits (plus The Wicker Man, which practically is a hit too), to satisfy them. Also, this is the first time in Maiden history they are doing a show-to-show rotation. Problems? I see none.

rjturtle9
06-29-2010, 12:14 AM
I'm so tired of arguing about this. What makes this setlist is good is that they're playing 6 songs that have only previously been played on one tour, and only 6 songs that have ever been played on more than 3 tours (one of which has been played incredibly sparingly over the past decade). Aside from album tours, this is the only tour they've ever done that has statistics looking like that. And sure, depending on which songs they chose to play, there'd be plenty of reason to bitch, because no one wants to see obscure, crappy, 90s songs. But the reunion albums are more than well-received overall, and the songs they're playing on this tour are pretty much the best-received songs from those albums. The hardcore fans shouldn't have a problem with this setlist given everything I just said, and the casual fans are still getting 6 hits (plus The Wicker Man, which practically is a hit too), to satisfy them. Also, this is the first time in Maiden history they are doing a show-to-show rotation. Problems? I see none.

:blaze:

Overall, if this set is true, I can say I saw two great sets from my two favorite bands in the same summer. nothing wrong with that at all. Great year for concerts :party:

TonyD
06-29-2010, 12:30 AM
No, the bullshit part is that if it was 3-5 songs from a certain 3-4 consecutive albums, no one would have a problem with it.


Yeah, but when it was done the last two times, it was a string of albums that half the fans didn't get to see live when they happened. Not to mention how many of the 80s era songs were played once or not at all?

Maiden33
06-29-2010, 12:45 AM
Yeah, but when it was done the last two times, it was a string of albums that half the fans didn't get to see live when they happened. Not to mention how many of the 80s era songs were played once or not at all?

Well, this brings me back to my other constant point. We shouldn't be weighing Maiden doing this current set against them doing a set consisting of several rare old songs, because they never, ever do that. Even when they've done these retro tours, they always go for the most predictable stuff. Moonchild was the only big surprise on the Somewhere Back In Time. In their entire career Maiden have never not played a song on its album's tour and then played it later. Even their non-themed hits tours are merely just cycling back through the same old hits with very few, if any, surprises. So weighing that against this... this is a no brainer of preference for me.

maidenpriest
06-29-2010, 01:14 AM
I am quite suprised by a lot of disappointment that people are expressing in the forums over this setlist...i mean yeah it could be better, but most of these songs are really good (not a fan of Presto or Faithless) and it will be an amazing show.

Sanitarium78
06-29-2010, 09:15 AM
The hardcore fans shouldn't have a problem with this setlist given everything I just said, and the casual fans are still getting 6 hits (plus The Wicker Man, which practically is a hit too), to satisfy them.

You're right the hardcore fans, myself included, won't have a problem with this set at all. But that only makes up a few thousand of the 15-20 thousand that seen Maiden at each show. They're not catering to the masses that are coming to see them is what the main issue is. Also, do you honestly think the casual Maiden fan has a clue or even gives a shit what Wrathchild, Iron Maiden and Running Free are? I'm love Maiden to death and could care less about those songs. So why does anyone think a "casual" is gonna care at all?

I'm not saying Maiden should play The Trooper and TMTM for the billionth time this tour but would it kill them to at least represent POM and PS with one song each? Those are the two albums that are mainly responsible for the fanbase they have gained today. Yet, nothing from either of them and don't anyone give me crap about how last tour was the classics tour and that's why they're not doing it this time around. Maiden didn't exactly give many Americans a chance to see the SBIT tour at all. They had 18 US dates only for that tour. Not exactly doing their best to make sure all the fans can see them do a classic set.

I don't mind that Maiden is doing a bunch of newer stuff this tour. It's just their selection of old material this time around that makes me wonder. I don't think there's too many people going to see them who hoping beyond hope that the below average Wrathchild and the craptastic Running Free get played. One of the main things live is to make sure the crowd is into it and stays intrested. From some of the reports i've read on this tour it looks like there's large pockets of people at every show just not caring at all. You can't do that if you want people to come back and see you again next time around. At least that's the case in the US markets.

Where Maidens faults are in the sets is where Rush shines in theirs. Even before they started doing the evening with format in 1996 Rush always played sets that included the main hits but also included many deep cuts. Rush is just about the best at pleasing THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE when it comes to setlists selections. First of all, they always open the show with a couple of big hits to you know, get everyone into the show right off the bat. Then they do some deeps cuts and a few new songs for the diehards. Then it's right back into a few more big hits and they repeat that format for the rest of the show.

Not only Maiden but all bands can take lessons from Rush on how to make a setlist. Also, unlike Maiden, Rush does extensive US tours every time they go out on the road and give the vast majority of their fans a chance to see them.

IrritatedTrout
06-29-2010, 09:23 AM
Not only Maiden but all bands can take lessons from Rush on how to make a setlist. Also, unlike Maiden, Rush does extensive US tours every time they go out and the road and that gives the vast majority of their fans a chance to see them.


Just gotta point out that Rush says fuck you to almost the entire world except for America. Hell, the Euro leg of S&A was a handful of dates whereas America got two large legs. Also, I'd be pissed if I was Canadian. Rush is from my country and I only get like 4 dates on the Time Machine tour while America gets every market hit? That's a BS way for an internationally loved band to tour.

Sanitarium78
06-29-2010, 09:42 AM
Just gotta point out that Rush says fuck you to almost the entire world except for America. Hell, the Euro leg of S&A was a handful of dates whereas America got two large legs. Also, I'd be pissed if I was Canadian. Rush is from my country and I only get like 4 dates on the Time Machine tour while America gets every market hit? That's a BS way for an internationally loved band to tour.

This is only the start of the tour though. So i'm sure more Canadian dates are coming for them. Also, does anyone know how big Rush really is in Europe? Maybe they just can't draw big crowds there long enough to sustain a full tour. That's what I always thought was the case with them. It's always seemed to me that Rush's popularity is mainly in America. Rush is one of the few universally loved bands that I think has a much bigger, more dedicated following in the US than in any other part of the world.

daimonos
06-29-2010, 09:50 AM
This is only the start of the tour though. So i'm sure more Canadian dates are coming for them. Also, does anyone know how big Rush really is in Europe? Maybe they just can't draw big crowds there long enough to sustain a full tour. That's what I always thought was the case with them. It's always seemed to me that Rush's popularity is mainly in America. Rush is one of the few universally loved bands that I think has a much bigger, more dedicated following in the US than in any other part of the world.

I think you're right. I would think that they would also be very popular in Canada too, though. I'm pretty sure they have a strong following in South America, well, in Brazil at least, too. That kinda thing is weird for a band though.

evildeadjedi
06-29-2010, 10:05 AM
They must have a decent following in Germany, since the concert on R30 was filmed in Frankfurt.

Maiden33
06-29-2010, 10:08 AM
Oh my god my brain fucking hurts.

If the "casual Maiden fan" doesn't know/give a fuck what Wrathchild, Iron Maiden, and Running Free are, how many songs does that leave that are more popular? Maybe 10? Hallowed Be Thy Name, Run to the Hills, Number of the Beast, The Trooper, 2 Minutes to Midnight, Wasted Years... that might be about it. Maybe a couple of others. If you're not advocating playing "the same generic hits for the billionth time", what ARE you advocating? Because I sure as shit know that the casual Maiden fan (if they're casual enough not to know Iron Maiden or Wrathchild) is NOT going to be ecstatic about them playing something like Revelations, Die With Your Boots On, Powerslave, or 22 Acacia Avenue.

Also, I've said this before (to Sanitarium78, the same person this is directed at now), that I think you're exaggerating the number of people at a Maiden show that are only familiar with 10 or a dozen songs. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some, but no more than maybe 2,000 people in a 15,000-capacity crowd. I'm not saying everyone's a die-hard fan that owns everything they've ever put out, but at least a half-dozen albums, at least one of which is probably a reunion album, because unlike most old bands, people still actually really care about Maiden's new albums. 99% of all the Maiden fans I know (many of which I don't consider die-hard fans) have at least heard, if not (most of them) own the last couple of albums. If they didn't like them enough to familiarize themselves with any of the songs, is that really the band's fault? And should they really give the finger to their dedicated fans, who pay to see them every single tour, own all their albums, and buy all their merchandise?

Citatet
06-29-2010, 11:40 AM
According to rushisaband.com this will be the setlist of the tour.


1. The Spirit of Radio
2. Time Stand Still (last played on Counterparts tour)
3. Presto (never played live)
4. Stick It Out (last played on Test For Echo tour)
5. Leave That Thing Alone (last played on Vapor Trails tour)
6. Workin' Them Angels
7. Faithless (never played live)
8. BU2B (new song - never played live)
9. Freewill
10. Marathon (last played on Presto tour)
11. Subdivisions

Intermission

Set 2

12. Tom Sawyer
13. Red Barchetta
14. YYZ
15. Limelight
16. The Camera Eye (last played on Signals tour)
17. Witch Hunt
18. Vital Signs (last played on Vapor Trails tour)
19. Caravan (new song - never played live)
20. Drum Solo
21. Alex Solo (something new)
22. Closer to the Heart (last played on Vapor Trails tour)
23. 2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx
24. Far Cry
25. La villa Strangiato (last played on R30 tour)
26. Working Man (last played on R30 tour)

Itīs a pretty good set actually...

ravenheart
06-29-2010, 11:47 AM
http://www.metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?t=13911

Sanitarium78
06-29-2010, 12:34 PM
They must have a decent following in Germany, since the concert on R30 was filmed in Frankfurt.

Possibly, but maybe they just wanted to record it at a place they don't go to that often so the crowd reaction would be better.

evildeadjedi
06-29-2010, 01:21 PM
Possibly, but maybe they just wanted to record it at a place they don't go to that often so the crowd reaction would be better.

That is a good point.

maidenpriest
06-29-2010, 02:30 PM
Possibly, but maybe they just wanted to record it at a place they don't go to that often so the crowd reaction would be better.

i wouldnt be suprised honestly, the last 3 concert DVDs have been filmed outside of North America. Me being used to more of a metal crowd, I find Rush crowds very laid back except when they do the "HEY!"s of 2112 lol

Sanitarium78
06-29-2010, 05:14 PM
Time Stand Still
Presto
Faithless
BU2B
Marathon
The Camera Eye
Caravan


I forgot to mention this before but I'll be seeing Rush for the seventh time next month and i'm getting seven songs i've never heard live before. Yes, I know that Presto, Faithless, BU2B and Caravan have never been played live but I think it's still a very cool thing that's happening. Also, if Jacob's Ladder is in the set like Alex said that'll be eight songs i've never heard live before.

I can't wait for July 23rd to get here:party:

Travis The Dragon
06-29-2010, 05:27 PM
I won't be able to see this tour. No Michigan date and none of the dates close by work out for me. Hopefully they'll keep it somewhat similar next year, with the exception of a couple more new songs...

Next year, we'll probably get less of Moving Pictures and at least 6 songs from the new album.

Also, here is a great place to watch for the setlist to come in live: http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?showforum=52

PlaysWithKnives
06-29-2010, 05:51 PM
That's looks like a pretty good set to me. A lot of songs they haven't done in a while or ever. Can't wait to see it

PlaysWithKnives
06-29-2010, 06:00 PM
no Natural Science :bouville:

That's a little dissapointing to me too since its one of my very favorite Rush songs. They have played it a lot over the last 10 or so years. Songs like Presto, Marathon and Camera eye make up for it for me.