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ravenheart
05-18-2010, 03:49 PM
Obsidian Conspiracy Promo Tour
Venue: Islington Academy
Support: Cauldron

Death Angel (20:00-20:45)
Lord of Hate
Evil Priest
Buried Alive
Seemingly Endless Time
Dethroned
Kill As One
The Ultra-Violence
Carnival Justice
River of Rapture

Nevermore (21:30-22:45)
Beyond Within
The River Dragon Has Come
Your Poison Throne
Born
Emptiness Unobstructed
Emptiness Unobstructed
Inside Four Walls
The Seven Tongues of God
The Termination Proclamation
This Godless Endeavor
The Heart Collector
The Obsidian Conspiracy
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Enemies of Reality

idrinkwine732
05-18-2010, 03:51 PM
River of Rapture


I've heard mixed things about River of Rapture, how'd you like it?

ravenheart
05-18-2010, 04:11 PM
I've heard mixed things about River of Rapture, how'd you like it?

Good enough. Fits well with everything else. Sounds like typical Death Angel.

Better than most of the new Nevermore. Wasn't impressed with any of that except 'The Obsidian Conspiracy'. The others are severely lacking in riffs.

Apparently Death Angel's album is finished, currently being mixed, and will be out around September. Mark said they're going to "tour relentlessly" for it.

Warrel said there'll be a full Obsidian Conspiracy World Tour starting in the Autumn.

Sanitarium78
05-18-2010, 04:31 PM
I think the new Nevermore is very good. The title track is the best of what they selected to play off it so far. The songs "Moonrise", "And The Maiden Spoke" and "Without Morals" would be better to play if they really wanna get people intrested in the new album though. I was expecting them to play at least 2 or 3 more songs as a headliner. But the tour just started, so once it gets rolling that will probably change.

ravenheart
05-18-2010, 04:39 PM
The ones they played were just... boring. No sharp riffs, short and really quite formulaic solos, very little complexity. Not really very Nevermore-like songs at all. They had no "edge" whatsoever. Everyone sang along to 'Emptiness Unobstructed', especially the second time, but really no one seemed that interested.

That's always the danger when you tour an album that isn't out yet, of course.

I don't see them adding any more songs until the proper tour later in the year. Warrel wasn't really down with most of the lyrics, so I don't expect they've even rehearsed any of the others.

Indestructible
05-18-2010, 04:50 PM
Everyone sang along to 'Emptiness Unobstructed', especially the second time

That makes it sound like they played it twice.

Sanitarium78
05-18-2010, 04:52 PM
The ones they played were just... boring. No sharp riffs, short and really quite formulaic solos, very little complexity. Not really very Nevermore-like songs at all. They had no "edge" whatsoever. Everyone sang along to 'Emptiness Unobstructed', especially the second time, but really no one seemed that interested.

That's always the danger when you tour an album that isn't out yet, of course.

I don't see them adding any more songs until the proper tour later in the year. Warrel wasn't really down with most of the lyrics, so I don't expect they've even rehearsed any of the others.

This tour is just a warm up anyways. The new album has a simular feel to it as EOR does. The songs are shorter and more to the point like they were on that album. There is complexity on the songs though. I just think they're playing a few of the simpler one's first just because that's easiest until they learn how to do the rest live. Why did they do "Emptiness Unobstructed" twice?

ravenheart
05-18-2010, 05:00 PM
I just think they're playing a few of the simpler one's first just because that's easiest until they learn how to do the rest live.

I think so too. The most complex of those four by far is the title track, and that was the one they were most uncertain about.

Why did they do "Emptiness Unobstructed" twice?

They were shooting the video for it and Warrel fucked up the lyrics. Ironically, he fucked them up worse the second time. I'm not expecting much from the video. They were using high-end Canon DSLRs in video mode instead of real video cameras.

ravenheart
05-18-2010, 05:01 PM
That makes it sound like they played it twice.

And it appearing twice in the setlist doesn't? That wasn't a mistake ;)

Sanitarium78
05-18-2010, 05:16 PM
'And The Maiden Spoke' off the new one is complex muscially. It's the best song on the new Nevermore album I think. The might have a hard time pulling it off live though.

MetalDoug
05-19-2010, 03:32 AM
One thing really pissed me off, they were shooting a video and the backdrop was only half-way up! You couldn't even read the title of the new album let alone the artwork!! Which is a real shame as the cover of the new album is wicked!

Everytime i go to the Islington Academy, bands can't put their backdrops all the way up because of the way rigs are set in there. It just looks very dodgy and unprofessional.

How much does it cost to do that properly?? It's not like the big O2 company is short of money :mad:

ravenheart
05-19-2010, 04:30 AM
Most bands simply don't own/bring a backdrop small enough to fit. The stage is very small, after all.

The same thing used to happen at the Mean Fiddler. I remember Therion's 20th anniversary backdrop, which was clearly intended for festivals and the bigger stages they would play in South America and some European countries on that tour, didn't fit and had to be gathered in at the sides.

MetalDoug
05-19-2010, 07:09 AM
The Nevermore backdrop was small enough for Islington. The problem is not the size of the backdrop, it's the position of the rigs in the venue. The rigs at the Mean Fiddler (Astoria 2) were not high enough, the ones at the Islington Academy are high enough but what they use to hold backdrops is not at the very back. So the bands have the option of putting the backdrop all the way up but having less space on stage OR hanging the backdrop from the middle (like Nevermore did) and having more space. Last time Overkill played in Islington a couple of months ago the backdrop was all the way up and it looked fucking wicked!

I think the Islington Academy should invest some money in solving this problem as it looks very unprofessional to hang a backdrop from the middle. Backdrops are important in my opinion.

ravenheart
05-19-2010, 10:29 AM
Last time Overkill played in Islington a couple of months ago the backdrop was all the way up and it looked fucking wicked!

Didn't even notice. Front-row baby. Far more important things to look at, like the bands...

I think the Islington Academy should invest some money in solving this problem as it looks very unprofessional to hang a backdrop from the middle.

That's generous... I think it should just close. It's a shit venue, and always has been. At least the sound doesn't completely suck anymore.

Backdrops are important in my opinion.

For what? I rarely even notice if a band has one. They're about as important as which brand of shampoo the singer uses.

Sanitarium78
05-19-2010, 10:34 AM
That's generous... I think it should just close. It's a shit venue, and always has been.



For what? I rarely even notice if a band has one. They're about as important as which brand of shampoo the singer uses.

Exactly. It might be important if you're not familiar with the band or you wanna know what the cover of their new album is or in what kind of font they design their name in. But other than that i've found that they serve very little purpose especially in a club venue. When Iron Maiden does that, it's OK though cause it's Iron Maiden:D

ravenheart
05-19-2010, 10:57 AM
Oh yeah, if you're playing some cavernous stage like a festival main stage or a big arena/stadium, then yeah, fill the stage with something so it doesn't look like you're just playing on top of a big scaffolding rig (which, you are). But in a club; worthless.