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adamclark52
01-21-2013, 11:48 PM
Building off of this: At The Gates's old stuff mostly sucks balls

I think the band even realizes this. When I saw them they played SotS in its entirity (but out of order) and only a few songs from the rest of their career. And the crowd went apeshit for anything off SotS and sat on their hands during anything else.

kalfitegrdan
01-21-2013, 11:53 PM
I've recently realized that I like Pantera's pre-Cowboys From Hell output much better.

John The Drummer
01-22-2013, 11:58 AM
I've recently realized that I like Pantera's pre-Cowboys From Hell output much better.

PAAAAANNNNNNNNTURRRRRUH!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Epidemic Reign
01-23-2013, 05:03 AM
Rogga Johansson is quite possibly THE most prolific entity in Swedish death metal to date. And also one of the best vocalists in the genre.

I'm hoping he's the new singer for Bloodbath.

TheWildAndTheYoung
01-23-2013, 09:59 AM
Most of these are going to turn out as mostly my opinions,but I'll try my best:

-Eddie Van Halen is "THE" guitar player, I don't care what anybody says.

-Kiss has one of the best live shows (if not the best) of all time.

-Van Halen's debut is their best work

-Creatures Of The Night is Kiss's best work

-I have established that the three best guitar albums of all time are "Van Halen", "Extreme II: Pornograffitti", and "Slip Of The Tongue".These are mostly my opinions, but no one can argue that these albums have extraordinary guitar work on them.

-Motley Crue is "THE" glam metal band

-Crashdiet is "THE" new glam metal band

-Aerosmith is "THE" classic rock band

-Metallica is "THE" metal band

-Rocks is Aerosmith's best work

-Shout At The Devil, Slave To The Grind, Ride The Lighting, Painkiller, Imaginations From The Other Side, and Keeper Of The Seven Keys,Part 1 are some of the best metal records of all time.

So their you go.I could go on and on, but it would take days. Sorry if most of them are really opinionated.

VoidFlame
01-23-2013, 10:39 AM
Building off of this: At The Gates's old stuff mostly sucks balls

No. I like all first 3 albums much better than Slaughter of the Soul. SotS is indeed their most catchy and well-produced work, but it lacks the dark atmosphere and sheer despair that the old stuff had. I also like the unusual way of writing and arranging riffs that Anders had; it may sound less "professional", but it gave the songs a kind of gloomy feel to the songs, thus making them more interesting. That's only my opinion, because most of the people seem to like SotS, which I do consider as an excellent record, better.

My favourite songs are on Terminal Spirit Disease, but their finest record, if considered as a whole, would be The Red in the Sky Is Ours if you asked me.

GarageMetal468
01-23-2013, 10:43 AM
I don't think I posted this before, but if I did, then I'm saying it again. Dismember puts all melodic death metal bands, be it Gothenburg or American or whatever, to shame.

VoidFlame
01-23-2013, 01:42 PM
I don't think I posted this before, but if I did, then I'm saying it again. Dismember puts all melodic death metal bands, be it Gothenburg or American or whatever, to shame.

Can't say I agree, but I have to say that Like An Ever Flowing Stream and Indecent & Obscene are fucking masterpieces.

Epidemic Reign
01-24-2013, 01:00 AM
I don't think I posted this before, but if I did, then I'm saying it again. Dismember puts all melodic death metal bands, be it Gothenburg or American or whatever, to shame.

My vote goes to Edge of Sanity, naturally. But Dismember would most likely be my second choice.

ravenheart
01-24-2013, 02:20 AM
-Creatures Of The Night is Kiss's best work

Well, this one is certainly correct.

Fates Guardian
01-24-2013, 11:57 AM
Building off of this: At The Gates's old stuff mostly sucks balls

At the Gates's old stuff absolutely does not suck. I like 'Slaughter of the Soul' as much as the next guy, but 'The Red in the Sky Is Ours' and (to a lesser extent) 'With Fear I Kiss the Burning Darkness' are far more interesting and atmospheric. I'd probably have to go with 'The Red...' as my favorite ATG album nowadays, in fact; my only complaint with it is the somewhat out-of-tune violin. But even that kind of adds to the strange, twisted sound they had.

Basically, I agree with everything VoidFlame said, except for the stuff about 'Terminal Spirit Disease', because I haven't heard that one.

VoidFlame
01-24-2013, 02:38 PM
At the Gates's old stuff absolutely does not suck. I like 'Slaughter of the Soul' as much as the next guy, but 'The Red in the Sky Is Ours' and (to a lesser extent) 'With Fear I Kiss the Burning Darkness' are far more interesting and atmospheric. I'd probably have to go with 'The Red...' as my favorite ATG album nowadays, in fact; my only complaint with it is the somewhat out-of-tune violin. But even that kind of adds to the strange, twisted sound they had.

Basically, I agree with everything VoidFlame said, except for the stuff about 'Terminal Spirit Disease', because I haven't heard that one.

:rocker:

mankvill
01-24-2013, 02:46 PM
Death/Doom is the best genre of metal by miles.

MPF
01-24-2013, 03:01 PM
It's a matter of opinion but I realized this last year.

You gotta appreciate a band while you still think they are good. Most people will always hold either the first album, or the next album they hear from a band as their best, even if it is not to the general consensus.

When you listen to as much music as I do, you gotta look at every album as a band's first album, or else you will just hate everything that band does. Look at each album as it's own entity and not compare it to what they have done in the past. Appreciate a latest album for what it is, or hate it for what it is, not because of what lead to it. Otherwise you might miss something that is actually great just because it's not what you hold as their best.

But then again, that is just me.

John The Drummer
01-24-2013, 04:14 PM
-Metallica is "THE" metal band



*happy place* *happy place* *happy place* *happy place* *happy place*

ravenheart
01-24-2013, 04:17 PM
Most people will always hold either the first album, or the next album they hear from a band as their best

These are called stupid people.

JRA
01-24-2013, 05:22 PM
You gotta appreciate a band while you still think they are good. Most people will always hold either the first album, or the next album they hear from a band as their best, even if it is not to the general consensus.


I've actually come to realize this myself and I try to be concious of it when thinking about my own opinions about new discoveries. Although oftentimes I'll need to hear a second or third album to truly appreciate that band.

TheWildAndTheYoung
01-24-2013, 05:33 PM
It's a matter of opinion but I realized this last year.

You gotta appreciate a band while you still think they are good. Most people will always hold either the first album, or the next album they hear from a band as their best, even if it is not to the general consensus.

When you listen to as much music as I do, you gotta look at every album as a band's first album, or else you will just hate everything that band does. Look at each album as it's own entity and not compare it to what they have done in the past. Appreciate a latest album for what it is, or hate it for what it is, not because of what lead to it. Otherwise you might miss something that is actually great just because it's not what you hold as their best.

But then again, that is just me.this is totally true.I don't like it when people have this "this is a good album, but the first album was so good that this just sounds bad compared to it" or "their first album is so awesome they're never going to top it" mentality. A perfect example is how alot people are with Crashdiet albums.I'm sick tired of people saying either "They will never make an album better than Rest In Sleaze" or one that people are starting to make about their newest album, "This is a good album, but it doesn't have the great production that was on Generation Wild", I mean come on people, they wanted a raw,unpolished rock 'n' roll album, and that is what they made, they didn't try to copy their previous record, and I'm extremely impressed with the final product.All three are great records, but that same mentality needs to go away.

energymetal14
01-24-2013, 06:17 PM
I agree with VoidFlame and Fates Guardian to an extent about the older At the Gates stuff. I LOVE the raw, fucked up sound the first few albums have, they just have such a painful sound. I still think SotS is my favorite from them though. And agreed that "buzzsaw" Swedish death kicks the shit out of most Gothenburg metal.

PVH5150
01-24-2013, 06:35 PM
- I don't mind Slayer in moderate doses. However, they're far from being the greatest band on the planet. Not to mention Kerry King sucks absolute balls on guitar.

- Pantera & Death. See above opinion.

- 99% of Slayer/Pantera/Death fans. Good freaking God, relax. Other bands exist.

- Aside from his first 2 albums with Ozzy Osbourne & Pride and Glory, Zakk Wylde is absolutely awful.

- Lamb Of God is one of the most boring bands around that everyone seems to get raging boners over.

- Deep Purple is light years better than Led Zeppelin.

- Guns N Roses had one good album.

- Bruce Springsteen is terrible.

- So is Tom Morello.

dcmetal108
01-24-2013, 06:50 PM
- I don't mind Slayer in moderate doses. However, they're far from being the greatest band on the planet. Not to mention Kerry King sucks absolute balls on guitar.

- Pantera & Death. See above opinion.

- 99% of Slayer/Pantera/Death fans. Good freaking God, relax. Other bands exist.

- Aside from his first 2 albums with Ozzy Osbourne & Pride and Glory, Zakk Wylde is absolutely awful.

- Lamb Of God is one of the most boring bands around that everyone seems to get raging boners over.

- Deep Purple is light years better than Led Zeppelin.

- Guns N Roses had one good album.

- Bruce Springsteen is terrible.

- So is Tom Morello.

Agreed x1000000000.

But I don't agree with the LOG bit at all. Also don't completely agree with Slayer.

Epidemic Reign
01-25-2013, 01:38 AM
It's a matter of opinion but I realized this last year.

You gotta appreciate a band while you still think they are good. Most people will always hold either the first album, or the next album they hear from a band as their best, even if it is not to the general consensus.

When you listen to as much music as I do, you gotta look at every album as a band's first album, or else you will just hate everything that band does. Look at each album as it's own entity and not compare it to what they have done in the past. Appreciate a latest album for what it is, or hate it for what it is, not because of what lead to it. Otherwise you might miss something that is actually great just because it's not what you hold as their best.

But then again, that is just me.


Does this mean you're going to revisit "Stones Grow Her Name" and bump it up a couple notches?

:snivel:

Epidemic Reign
01-25-2013, 01:43 AM
- I don't mind Slayer in moderate doses. However, they're far from being the greatest band on the planet. Not to mention Kerry King sucks absolute balls on guitar.

- Pantera & Death. See above opinion.

Agree with Slayer and Pantera. But Death?

I mean, Death isn't even anywhere in my top 20 favorite death metal bands, I'm sure... but all of the bands that ARE in my top 20 wouldn't exist without Death.


Well, except for Necrophagia. They were kind of already doing their own thing before Death came along.

John The Drummer
01-25-2013, 12:02 PM
I don't understand why everyone creams themselves over "Seven Churches" by Possessed. Sure the music is ok, but other then that...... :eyes:

smearCampaign
01-25-2013, 12:12 PM
I don't understand why everyone creams themselves over "Seven Churches" by Possessed. Sure the music is ok, but other then that...... :eyes:

Partially because it's arguably the first death metal album and some people will always think first = best.

GarageMetal468
01-25-2013, 01:37 PM
I don't understand why everyone creams themselves over "Seven Churches" by Possessed. Sure the music is ok, but other then that...... :eyes:

Wearing my Seven Churches shirt right now. That being said, fuck you all, it's awesome.

Real answer: Not even having to do with its time, that album is loaded with awesome and fast riffs.

MPF
01-25-2013, 02:16 PM
Does this mean you're going to revisit "Stones Grow Her Name" and bump it up a couple notches?

:snivel:

It could happen. I( could also jump up in the air, magically grow wings and fly to heaven as well. :lol:

I don't like it because it's what they have become, I don't like it because I think it sucks. I saw them back in 2009 and they kicked ass. this album doesn't do that for me.

Epidemic Reign
01-25-2013, 02:49 PM
It could happen. I( could also jump up in the air, magically grow wings and fly to heaven as well. :lol:

I don't like it because it's what they have become, I don't like it because I think it sucks. I saw them back in 2009 and they kicked ass. this album doesn't do that for me.

Baaaaah I think it's better than the last two albums before it.

dcmetal108
01-25-2013, 02:51 PM
Dying Fetus is one of the best death metal slam bands of all time.

ravenheart
01-25-2013, 03:10 PM
- Aside from his first 2 albums with Ozzy Osbourne & Pride and Glory, Zakk Wylde is absolutely awful.

Wrong, and his solo album is better than all three of those. Godly though those three are.

- Deep Purple is light years better than Led Zeppelin.

Don't know about "light years", but they're definitely better.

- Guns N Roses had one good album.

- Bruce Springsteen is terrible.

- So is Tom Morello.

These are all just dumb.

El Gordo
01-25-2013, 06:35 PM
I don't understand why everyone creams themselves over "Seven Churches" by Possessed. Sure the music is ok, but other then that...... :eyes:

Listen to what else came out in 1985. That album is pretty fucking ridiculous. It also still stands up today as a solid thrash/death album.

TheWildAndTheYoung
01-25-2013, 06:49 PM
Wrong, and his solo album is better than all three of those. Godly though those three are.



Don't know about "light years", but they're definitely better.



These are all just dumb.
Agreed except I personally don't like Tom Morello's style

PVH5150
01-25-2013, 11:05 PM
Wrong, and his solo album is better than all three of those. Godly though those three are.



Don't know about "light years", but they're definitely better.



These are all just dumb.

And this is why opinions exist.

Now, go clean up the anal bleeding you left on the carpet.

John The Drummer
01-28-2013, 03:37 PM
Not really about any band in general... but...

People who play music and people who listen to music have two completely different views on what "Good" is. I have a lot of friends who will listen to a certain band, album, song, etc... and say how awesome it is. I listen to it and wonder "WTF are they talking about? This is the most mediocre song I have ever heard!" or even "This sucks."

RampinUp46
01-28-2013, 05:20 PM
Not really about any band in general... but...

People who play music and people who listen to music have two completely different views on what "Good" is. I have a lot of friends who will listen to a certain band, album, song, etc... and say how awesome it is. I listen to it and wonder "WTF are they talking about? This is the most mediocre song I have ever heard!" or even "This sucks."

This. Just...this summarizes almost every musical debate I've gotten into recently.

ravenheart
01-29-2013, 12:44 AM
Agreed except I personally don't like Tom Morello's style

That's fair enough, but that's very different to "sucks".

ravenheart
01-29-2013, 12:45 AM
And this is why opinions exist.

Except what you said wasn't opinion. "I don't like X guitar player" is opinion. "X guitar player sucks" isn't.

anomynous
01-29-2013, 08:56 AM
Voivod is non-cohesive noise.


Just can't get into them

Epidemic Reign
01-29-2013, 03:02 PM
Voivod is non-cohesive noise.


Just can't get into them

Agreed.

John The Drummer
01-30-2013, 04:44 PM
Voivod is non-cohesive noise.


Just can't get into them


I kept hearing "Their new album is awesome!" So I checked it out... I was so bored. I didn't even want to finish the album, but I wanted to give it a fair chance....

kalfitegrdan
01-30-2013, 05:08 PM
Female harsh vocals are fucking fantastic in death/doom or doom-influenced death metal. Derketa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqRmlmyghdc) and Vastum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfRY84wNZHM) being my main points of reference.

Epidemic Reign
02-01-2013, 03:05 PM
Maurizio Iacono (Kataklysm, Ex Deo) is one of the douchiest personalities in metal.

kalfitegrdan
02-01-2013, 04:00 PM
Maurizio Iacono (Kataklysm, Ex Deo) is one of the douchiest personalities in metal.

For realsies? He always seemed pretty cool when I saw him at shows. He's always hanging around shows here.

TonyD
02-20-2013, 01:28 AM
Guitar Center is a lot like a gym.

RampinUp46
02-20-2013, 09:57 AM
Guitar Center is a lot like a gym.

Explain.

energymetal14
02-20-2013, 10:02 AM
Guitar Center is a lot like a gym.

Explain.

:lol: not sure if I am right, but if he is implying what I think then this is so true.

TonyD
02-20-2013, 12:46 PM
A lot of people go just to show off to an audience that they don't have at home. And a lot of people try and don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Sweep picking solos at high volumes is pretty much the equivalent of doing heavy shrugs and slamming the weight down every chance you can get.

EvilCheeseWedge
02-20-2013, 05:16 PM
A lot of these are really directed at a younger EvilCheeseWedge:


Dio can write about whatever the fuck he wants, because he's fucking Dio.* (Suck it, 2007 EvilCheeseWedge. (http://metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?p=149662#post149662))
Bruce Dickinson's solo work effortlessly eclipses Iron Maiden's post-Dance of Death output by a considerable margin, and maybe even Dance of Death (especially after you adjust for and factor out my lingering nostalgia.)
What Steve Harris is: A great bassist, a shrewd businessman, prone to tedium, a great songwriter, and a mediocre songwriter.
What Steve Harris is not: Consistent.
Dave Mustaine's insanity negatively affects my interest in and enjoyment of anything Megadeth has done or will do.
Most metal fans/music fans in general have a distorted, inaccurate, borderline fantasy view on: songwriting, musical theory, and the general mechanics and variances in how actual musicians and songwriters operate.
Don't even think of trying to convince them of that, though.
AC/DC is great at being AC/DC, so why do they need to be anything else? (Suck it, 2004 EvilCheeseWedge.)
Ozzy Osbourne is a great performer/entertainer whose place in metal history is warranted. Complaints about The Osbournes be damned.
Ozzy Osbourne is not a great vocalist, or songwriter. (So what?)



Also, I think the comparison of Guitar Center to a gym is amusingly apt.

*Present tense, because a) it's too sad to use past tense, and b) you never know...

JRA
02-20-2013, 05:34 PM
A lot of these are really directed at a younger EvilCheeseWedge:


Dio can write about whatever the fuck he wants, because he's fucking Dio.* (Suck it, 2007 EvilCheeseWedge. (http://metalsetlists.com/showthread.php?p=149662#post149662))
Bruce Dickinson's solo work effortlessly eclipses Iron Maiden's post-Dance of Death output by a considerable margin, and maybe even Dance of Death (especially after you adjust for and factor out my lingering nostalgia.)
What Steve Harris is: A great bassist, a shrewd businessman, prone to tedium, a great songwriter, and a mediocre songwriter.
What Steve Harris is not: Consistent.
Dave Mustaine's insanity negatively affects my interest in and enjoyment of anything Megadeth has done or will do.
Most metal fans/music fans in general have a distorted, inaccurate, borderline fantasy view on: songwriting, musical theory, and the general mechanics and variances in how actual musicians and songwriters operate.
Don't even think of trying to convince them of that, though.
AC/DC is great at being AC/DC, so why do they need to be anything else? (Suck it, 2004 EvilCheeseWedge.)
Ozzy Osbourne is a great performer/entertainer whose place in metal history is warranted. Complaints about The Osbournes be damned.
Ozzy Osbourne is not a great vocalist, or songwriter. (So what?)



Also, I think the comparison of Guitar Center to a gym is amusingly apt.

*Present tense, because a) it's too sad to use past tense, and b) you never know...


Well wouldn't you know who fuckin won the pony.

1.* :lol: That's awesome
2.* absolutely. Fuck I can barely even listen to DoD anymore except out of Nostalgia cos it was the start of Steve Harris descending into mediocrity.
3. * Agreed, especially with tedium
4. * Well, he has been consistently trying to write X-Factor over and over again as a result of being butthurt over a new formula not being accepted the first time,
5. * :( Disagree, but understandable. He's really making it hard not to forsake him.
6 & 7. * I like to think I have an ok grasp on this but eh....?
8.* Absolutely.
9.* Disagree on both counts. If you want to go by what songwriting credit royalties do, the "music" of a song has never had anything to do with the instrumentation, but the vocal melody itself. Ozzy's done nothing but write vocal melodies his whole life. When you combine that with lyrics, in that sense all songwriting credits for Black Sabbath should go exclusively to Ozzy & Geezer. This philosophy sort of makes sense when you realize that it started in the 40's-50's when the only real part of a song people cared about was the vocals, and most music stars were straight singers with orchestras or backing groups backing them. Wasn't til the Beatles when that started to change.



And one contribution for me:

When Iron Maiden stepped into the studio with Blaze in 1994, they were trying to write a Candlemass album. The problem with that is you need an extremely strong, Sabbath like emphasis on riffs, and Maiden weren't quite overt with those even in the 80s. The fast twin harmony riffs just don't work for doom metal. If Steve had paid more attention to Candlemass (or even the crop of stoner metal bands in the 90s) he might have been able to get away with it. But he just didn't shed enough of that "Maiden skin" to pull that off.

MPF
02-20-2013, 06:48 PM
Maurizio Iacono (Kataklysm, Ex Deo) is one of the douchiest personalities in metal.

He handed me a beer on their tour bus when touring with Krisiun and we all air drummed and Air guitared to Van Halen I....

He's A-OK in my book. :D

SomewhereInTime72
02-20-2013, 08:21 PM
Bruce Dickinson's solo work effortlessly eclipses Iron Maiden's post-Dance of Death output by a considerable margin, and maybe even Dance of Death (especially after you adjust for and factor out my lingering nostalgia.)


I don't think you should adjust for and factor out nostalgia. It's a little bit dumb, but I think there's no shame in having your enjoyment of certain music be enhanced by nostalgia.

That said, I don't know if I agree or disagree with that point. It's a tough call for me. Like, for example, The Chemical Wedding is a ton better than The Final Frontier, but to say Bruce's solo work as a whole eclipses post DoD Maiden, I don't know.

EvilCheeseWedge
02-20-2013, 09:07 PM
I don't think you should adjust for and factor out nostalgia. It's a little bit dumb, but I think there's no shame in having your enjoyment of certain music be enhanced by nostalgia.

That said, I don't know if I agree or disagree with that point. It's a tough call for me. Like, for example, The Chemical Wedding is a ton better than The Final Frontier, but to say Bruce's solo work as a whole eclipses post DoD Maiden, I don't know.

Fair enough. I have tons of nostalgia for DoD :lol: Too much to be able to speak of the album objectively.

And yeah, I see your point. I guess AMOLAD is definitely better than Final Frontier, but I can see how some people would easily take it over.... Skunkworks. Or Balls to Picasso. Or Tattooed Millionaire. :eyes:

IrritatedTrout
02-21-2013, 01:32 PM
Skunkworks is pretty awesome.

Blitzkrieg Witchcraft
02-21-2013, 08:21 PM
I kept hearing "Their new album is awesome!" So I checked it out... I was so bored. I didn't even want to finish the album, but I wanted to give it a fair chance....

I adore Voivod but they haven't put out anything even halfway decent (save for a song or two) since The Outer Limits.

Onioner
02-22-2013, 05:19 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Metal Church is in fact, the greatest band to ever exist. Everything by them fucking rules. Everything. All three of their vocalists are awesome and they can have whatever lineup they damn well please and still be amazing. They can do thrash (Ton of Bricks), catchy rockers (Badlands), gothic progressive things (Beyond the Black), and lumbering riff rapers (Fake Healer)- they can do whatever the fuck they want and be good at it.

Also Psalm 9 by Trouble is one of the heaviest records I've listened to in a really long time, I haven't been able to stop listening to it for the past three months.

PVH5150
02-22-2013, 09:31 AM
Tesla & Cinderella are both wrongfully lumped in with the hair/glam era.

Both are awesome hard blues rock bands.

Fe Maiden
02-22-2013, 09:36 AM
Boston was an awesome band that trandscends time and sounds just as good today as when they first hit the airwaves with their debut album.

SomewhereInTime72
02-25-2013, 04:31 PM
Boston was an awesome album that trandscends time and sounds just as good today as when they first hit the airwaves with their debut album.

Fixed so that I agree.

Don't look back is only half as good as the debut, and all the later albums... well I only listened to them once and then deleted them asap. :tongue:

TheWildAndTheYoung
02-25-2013, 04:32 PM
Tesla & Cinderella are both wrongfully lumped in with the hair/glam era.

Both are awesome hard blues rock bands.
Totally Agreed!

Sanitarium78
02-26-2013, 05:02 PM
Tesla & Cinderella are both wrongfully lumped in with the hair/glam era.

Both are awesome hard blues rock bands.

Tesla doesn't fit anywhere into that genre but Cinderella certainly does when you look at the image they had back in the day. The other band I always thought got unfairly put in the hair/glam genre is Def Leppard. There was nothing "hair band" about them back in the 80s and musically they're just a striaght up commercial rock band.

IrritatedTrout
02-26-2013, 05:09 PM
Acid Bath may be one of the most original bands there is. I can't think of anyone that sound similar to them.

Sanitarium78
02-26-2013, 05:20 PM
Bruce Dickinson's solo work effortlessly eclipses Iron Maiden's post-Dance of Death output by a considerable margin, and maybe even Dance of Death (especially after you adjust for and factor out my lingering nostalgia.)


I would say that Accident Of Birth and The Chemical Wedding easily beat DOD, AMOLAD and TFF but not all of Bruce's solo work is better. Balls To Picaso is OK but nothing that great except for Tears Of The Dragon. Skunkworks was just strange and it had it's moments but overall just isn't that good. Tyranny Of Souls is good but not as good as what Maiden has done since DOD. Along with SSOASS, I think AOB and TCW have the best vocal performances of Bruce's career.

IrritatedTrout
02-26-2013, 05:35 PM
I love Accident of Birth but I find more lacking moments on it than most apparently. The riffs for The Magician and Welcome To The Pit are pretty weak and Freak is just not a very good song. It's very good, but not that good. Chemical Wedding is much better.

mankvill
02-26-2013, 06:56 PM
that IrritatedTrout has bad taste in music :D

JRA
02-26-2013, 07:06 PM
Carnage- Dark Recollections should get billing over Left hand Path and Like An Ever Flowing Stream because it came out first, with buzzsaw tone and all.

mankvill
02-26-2013, 07:44 PM
Carnage- Dark Recollections should get billing over Left hand Path and Like An Ever Flowing Stream because it came out first, with buzzsaw tone and all.

I wish Entombed was known more for the song Wolverine Blues than the entire Left Hand Path album. It fucking rips.

GarageMetal468
02-26-2013, 08:15 PM
I wish Entombed was known more for the song Wolverine Blues than the entire Left Hand Path album. It fucking rips.

Get the fuck out.

mankvill
02-26-2013, 08:23 PM
Get the fuck out.

:party:

Natrlhi
02-26-2013, 08:42 PM
Voivod is non-cohesive noise.


Just can't get into themWrong.

Agreed.Wrong.

I kept hearing "Their new album is awesome!" So I checked it out... I was so bored. I didn't even want to finish the album, but I wanted to give it a fair chance....Wrong.

I adore Voivod but they haven't put out anything even halfway decent (save for a song or two) since The Outer Limits.Wrong, although based partially in truth. Everything since Angel Rat has pretty much sucked except for the new album.

Dave Mustaine's insanity negatively affects my interest in and enjoyment of anything Megadeth has done or will do.Absofuckinglutely this.

anomynous
02-26-2013, 09:06 PM
Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong, although based partially in truth. Everything since Angel Rat has pretty much sucked except for the new album.

Absofuckinglutely this.

If by wrong, you mean right, then yes.

BloodoftheKings
02-26-2013, 09:38 PM
If by wrong, you mean right, then yes.

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Onioner
02-26-2013, 09:45 PM
Wrong, although based partially in truth. Everything since Angel Rat has pretty much sucked except for the new album.

You really don't like The Outer Limits? I love that album, as well as the self-titled one. I agree with the rest being totally skippable though.

treghet
02-26-2013, 10:20 PM
If by wrong, you mean right, then yes.

What a witty response!

mankvill
02-26-2013, 10:53 PM
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energymetal14
02-27-2013, 07:36 AM
Blackened crust is amazing, I don't care that some people think they should never be combined.

Fe Maiden
02-27-2013, 08:12 AM
Fixed so that I agree.

Don't look back is only half as good as the debut, and all the later albums... well I only listened to them once and then deleted them asap. :tongue:There are some good songs on all of their albums but I agree that their first is best overall.

IrritatedTrout
02-27-2013, 02:19 PM
Here's one I gleaned semi-recently: Soundgarden's work pre-Badmotorfinger largely sucks. :lol:

El Gordo
02-27-2013, 04:04 PM
Here's one I gleaned semi-recently: Soundgarden's work pre-Badmotorfinger largely sucks. :lol:

Have you been smoking crack again?

IrritatedTrout
02-27-2013, 04:23 PM
I like Hunted Down and Gun was pretty cool live but from what I've heard, and it's not all of it, the early stuff is pretty samey and not as interesting as the sound they started to adopt with Badmotorfinger, especially the guitar work.

Edit: Went and listened to Beyond The Wheel and that's pretty cool. The other big songs from that period that I've heard a good number of times like Ugly Truth, Loud Love, and Incessant Mace don't impress me though.

kalfitegrdan
02-27-2013, 09:41 PM
Blackened crust is amazing, I don't care that some people think they should never be combined.

Yeah, definitely this.

Natrlhi
03-01-2013, 07:48 PM
You really don't like The Outer Limits? I love that album, as well as the self-titled one. I agree with the rest being totally skippable though.It's not as bad as Phobos, maybe, but it's kinda when they started sucking.

I used to like the S/T somewhat, and Infini was a step further in the right direction, but on this latest one, they made a full-on comeback in my opinion. It like Dimension Hatröss Part Deux or some shit. I couldn't believe my ears when I first listened to it - and the more I listen to it, the more I like it.

Sounds like it's time to write a review... ;)

Onioner
03-02-2013, 05:41 PM
It's not as bad as Phobos, maybe, but it's kinda when they started sucking.

I used to like the S/T somewhat, and Infini was a step further in the right direction, but on this latest one, they made a full-on comeback in my opinion. It like Dimension Hatröss Part Deux or some shit. I couldn't believe my ears when I first listened to it - and the more I listen to it, the more I like it.

Sounds like it's time to write a review... ;)

I can see how a longtime Voivod fan wouldn't like The Outer Limits much. It's really more progressive rock than metal at all. But I agree with you on Target Earth though, it's an outstanding record in every way. The self-titled is more immediately gratifying for me, but Target Earth has so much more to offer as a whole album.

anomynous
03-02-2013, 06:39 PM
What a witty response!

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John The Drummer
03-25-2013, 12:14 PM
For as crappy and boring as Godsmack is.... "Voodoo" is a great song :)

Sepultura69
06-27-2013, 10:23 PM
Syd Barrett is the Ol' Dirty Bastard of Rock n' Roll.