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Travis The Dragon
02-24-2010, 04:27 PM
By arenas here in the USA, I mean basketball and hockey arenas that hold 15,000-20,000 people. Do you think Maiden has gained enough popularity here where they could do a full 30-40 city tour and either sell out or come close to selling out every show? I think they have.

DethMaiden
02-24-2010, 04:29 PM
Only because they sold out Toronto and came close in Cleveland do I say yes. I think there's probably a lot of people like me who would go to every show within a reasonable vicinity, too.

SerpentineVIVIVI
02-24-2010, 04:30 PM
Absolutely, that's barely arguable. Don't know about sold out, but arena tours? They're pretty damned close.

rjturtle9
02-24-2010, 04:34 PM
Yes, but id rather have them play the outdoor venues better.

DethMaiden
02-24-2010, 04:36 PM
Yes, but id rather have them play the outdoor venues better.

Why? The sound is far worse and the "front row" is twenty feet from the stage and impossible to get a ticket for anyway.

rjturtle9
02-24-2010, 04:42 PM
Why? The sound is far worse and the "front row" is twenty feet from the stage and impossible to get a ticket for anyway.

I loved the sound at Irvine when i saw them. Plus they bring more explosions and fireworks to outdoor venues. And the stage isn't that far. I'm talking outdoor amphitheaters not like huge metal festivals like Wacken. Amphitheaters have stages that are just as far away as arenas do.

As for the ticket thing, it works that way wherever they play.

SomewhereInTime72
02-24-2010, 04:59 PM
I loved the sound at Irvine when i saw them. Plus they bring more explosions and fireworks to outdoor venues. And the stage isn't that far. I'm talking outdoor amphitheaters not like huge metal festivals like Wacken. Amphitheaters have stages that are just as far away as arenas do.

As for the ticket thing, it works that way wherever they play.

No way man. I've been only a few feet from Maiden a couple of times in the past. :D This is mostly impossible in outdoor theaters and the like.

Also, I voted yes. It might not sell out, but it would be damn successful.

DethMaiden
02-24-2010, 05:02 PM
No way man. I've been only a few feet from Maiden a couple of times in the past. :D This is mostly impossible in outdoor theaters and the like.


Yep.

mankvill
02-24-2010, 06:10 PM
Honestly?

Absolutely. I have no doubt in my mind that the arena in Kansas City, the Sprint Center, would sell extremely well if Iron Maiden did a show there.

Butcher of Birth
02-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Of course they could. They would just need a solid package to go with them. They sold out her in Florida and I know tons of people who wanted to go.

mankvill
02-24-2010, 06:39 PM
Of course they could. They would just need a solid package to go with them. They sold out her in Florida and I know tons of people who wanted to go.

Totally. Who would be a good band to open for Maiden? They probably aren't going to get someone really big for a US run, but I really hope it's not just Lauren Harris :(

Mastodong?

Butcher of Birth
02-24-2010, 07:02 PM
Mastodon, Baroness, Iced Earth, Arch Enemy, Adagio, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, DevilDriver, Into Eternity, Nightwish, Turisas. I could honestly see any one of those bands touring with Iron Maiden.

Because Arch Enemy in the past has toured with Maiden it opens up the door to Extreme Metal bands. With the USA Market for metal, Devildriver is easy to put on there. They even did one of the few better covers on that last album.

DethMaiden
02-24-2010, 07:12 PM
Mastodon, Baroness, Iced Earth, Arch Enemy, Adagio, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth, DevilDriver, Into Eternity, Nightwish, Turisas. I could honestly see any one of those bands touring with Iron Maiden.

Because Arch Enemy in the past has toured with Maiden it opens up the door to Extreme Metal bands. With the USA Market for metal, Devildriver is easy to put on there. They even did one of the few better covers on that last album.

Adagio and Turisas are seriously wishful thinking, bro. Maiden has probably never heard of those bands.

Butcher of Birth
02-24-2010, 07:14 PM
Wishful yes, but hey, if they wanted to get big put them on that tour. lol

DethMaiden
02-24-2010, 07:16 PM
Wishful yes, but hey, if they wanted to get big put them on that tour. lol

I think Mastodon is the no-brainer selection. The only possible issue is that they're too big and are on the verge of doing arena dates themselves.

ChildrenofSodom
02-24-2010, 07:17 PM
I would argue that Maiden is one of the most known/liked metal bands across the board. If they spaced shows well, they shouldn't have a problem touring the US.

mankvill
02-24-2010, 07:32 PM
I would argue that Maiden is one of the most known/liked metal bands across the board. If they spaced shows well, they shouldn't have a problem touring the US.

in b4 TWO SHOWS IN NEW YORK, TWO SHOWS IN CHICAGO, TWO SHOWS IN LA, LET'S CALL IT A DAY BOYS

ChildrenofSodom
02-24-2010, 07:35 PM
in b4 TWO SHOWS IN NEW YORK, TWO SHOWS IN CHICAGO, TWO SHOWS IN LA, LET'S CALL IT A DAY BOYS

Ok, so no one in the south can see Maiden?

I think playing in Oklahoma/Kansas/Texas would attract a huge crowd.

powerslave_85
02-24-2010, 07:39 PM
Depends on the size of said arenas and the scale of the tour.

Butcher of Birth
02-24-2010, 07:52 PM
Iron Maiden Announces North American Tour:
New York - May 7, 8, 9
Toronto - May 11, 12
Chicago - May 14, 15
Houston - May 17
LA - May 19, 20, 21
San Fran - May 23
Seattle - May 25

That looks about right I think ;)

But yeah if they spaced out a tour where the schedule was: 4 Shows ever 7 Days for almost 2 Months, that would calm America down pretty hard. And That's only 15 Shows. They just need to hit either Florida or Georgia and that calms down the big South fever.

TonyD
02-24-2010, 08:23 PM
Iron Maiden Announces North American Tour:
New York - May 7, 8, 9
Toronto - May 11, 12
Chicago - May 14, 15
Houston - May 17
LA - May 19, 20, 21
San Fran - May 23
Seattle - May 25

That looks about right I think ;)


...This is hypothetical?

Fires Of Sedition
02-24-2010, 11:36 PM
Ok, so no one in the south can see Maiden?

I think playing in Oklahoma/Kansas/Texas would attract a huge crowd.

Everyone I know who likes any kind of metal/rock likes Maiden.

Div
02-25-2010, 12:28 AM
a good opener for maiden in the states would be slough feg :bliss:

Butcher of Birth
02-25-2010, 03:46 AM
...This is hypothetical?

Well knowing them that would happen lol

IrritatedTrout
02-25-2010, 08:03 AM
I think they could do a full tour and have strong attendance figures. I'm not really sure that they'd sell out every show but I'm sure it wouldn't be a financial bust for them.

Maiden33
02-25-2010, 09:06 AM
Yes, depending on what you mean by "full". If it's 10-15 or 20 dates, sure. But no more than that. "Do" a tour is a bit better than saying "selling it out", which I doubt any of the shows would aside from maybe 1-3.

They could do a huge tour, but I honestly think it would be a mistake, and thusly they never would. I don't know if I've ever seen another band take as much precaution and use as much planning when it comes to making career decisions.

mankvill
02-25-2010, 10:12 AM
Yes, depending on what you mean by "full". If it's 10-15 or 20 dates, sure. But no more than that. "Do" a tour is a bit better than saying "selling it out", which I doubt any of the shows would aside from maybe 1-3.

They could do a huge tour, but I honestly think it would be a mistake, and thusly they never would. I don't know if I've ever seen another band take as much precaution and use as much planning when it comes to making career decisions.

According to Wiki, They sold out every date except four (they sold 99% of tickets to one show, so that's "sold out" to me.)

One was in Ohio...:hmm:

Sanitarium78
02-25-2010, 10:42 AM
I think they can do a "full" US tour, whatever the band might actually consider that to be now. It just seems metal fans old and young love Maiden. There's no reason to think they couldn't do an arena tour here and draw good numbers. Maidens name, image and live show will help to sell tickets just as much as the music would, I think.

They should at least try it and see what happens. If it doesn't do well at least they gave it a shot and everyone knows for sure what kind of drawing power they really do have here.

Maiden33
02-25-2010, 10:49 AM
According to Wiki, They sold out every date except four (they sold 99% of tickets to one show, so that's "sold out" to me.)

One was in Ohio...:hmm:

Well that tour wasn't really a "full" tour. It was big by newer Maiden standards, but it was still relatively small. For a band like Maiden who has the power to force people to travel, the less shows they do, the better - because if they only do 6 or 8 shows, they will sell them all out, because people love them enough to travel from different places to see them. If they play 15-20 shows, I don't think they could maintain that level of sellouts. Whatever the closest shows to NYC, LA, and probably Toronto are would sell out, the rest would probably only reach about 75% capacity. Especially if it's gonna be an album tour.

Maiden33
02-25-2010, 10:52 AM
Oh, and it's worth noting that I think Maiden could only do this on a summer tour of amphitheaters, not indoor arenas. There's usually about a 3-5,000-capacity difference between them, and I think it would make a big difference in this case.

ADD
02-25-2010, 11:23 AM
Didn't sell out Shoreline in '03, sold out the small place in LA '04, Irvine '06 was pretty packed, Concord '08 I have no idea. Don't think it'd be wise for them to book a full scale arena tour here, and they almost certainly won't.

Fe Maiden
02-25-2010, 11:45 AM
I'll respond to several things in the thread. Are they popular enough to do it? Yes! Would every show be a sell out? No! Who should open for them? Why not Heaven And Hell? They are scheduled to open for them somewhere in Europe!

http://www.bergenlive.no/K110810N2.html

Not sure with RJD being ill how well that will work

As for outdoor amphitheaters, some of them have terrific sound like Irvine does!

Sanitarium78
02-25-2010, 11:49 AM
Well that tour wasn't really a "full" tour. It was big by newer Maiden standards, but it was still relatively small. For a band like Maiden who has the power to force people to travel, the less shows they do, the better - because if they only do 6 or 8 shows, they will sell them all out, because people love them enough to travel from different places to see them. If they play 15-20 shows, I don't think they could maintain that level of sellouts. Whatever the closest shows to NYC, LA, and probably Toronto are would sell out, the rest would probably only reach about 75% capacity. Especially if it's gonna be an album tour.

While I do agree that there are a lot of fans who are willing to travel to see Maiden, I think there are many more who would not. There's a lot of people who have other things going on like work and family. Some may have money troubles to, and a road trip just isn't in the budget for a lot of them. To make a road trip to see them you have to be away from all this possibly for a few days and a lot of people just can't afford to give that up.

A full tour I think would draw well just because doing more dates means it's more convenient for people to go see them. Plus, there has to be many areas like where I live, that Maiden hasn't played in awhile. The last time they played here on their own was in 2000:mad: The next time was when they did Ozzfest and since then nothing. So people will go to see them based on how long it's been since they've been around. Judging by the lack of US dates they do I know my area is not the only one they've neglected over the last 10years.

The other side of this is Maiden is their own worst enemy when it comes to how much they draw here. When you have Bruce saying in interviews about how boring the American crowds can be and they aren't gonna tour as much there now, that can turn people off from wanting to see them. I'm not saying Bruce isn't right about the difference in audiences but you can't say stuff like that and expect people to wanna see you all the time. Also, they've had this fascination for the last ten years of doing a shit load of new stuff and ignoring a lot of their 80s material. This to can turn fans off from wanting to see them live and they're doing a bunch of songs people aren't familiar with and leaving out the classics that most fans are going there to hear. Maiden needs to take some blame themselves if they feel they can't draw here because it's not completely the fault of the fans.

rjturtle9
02-25-2010, 02:04 PM
Also, they've had this fascination for the last ten years of doing a shit load of new stuff and ignoring a lot of their 80s material. This to can turn fans off from wanting to see them live and they're doing a bunch of songs people aren't familiar with and leaving out the classics that most fans are going there to hear. Maiden needs to take some blame themselves if they feel they can't draw here because it's not completely the fault of the fans.

There are already like 7 songs they do that are considered classics on every single tour they do. If that doesn't do the job then I don't know what the fans want. We just got a full 80s set on the last tour. It's time to bring out The Wicker man, Paschendale, The Clansman, and other "new" maiden songs that i consider to be classics just cause they're that good.

IrritatedTrout
02-25-2010, 02:10 PM
There are already like 7 songs they do that are considered classics on every single tour they do. If that doesn't do the job then I don't know what the fans want. We just got a full 80s set on the last tour. It's time to bring out The Wicker man, Paschendale, The Clansman, and other "new" maiden songs that i consider to be classics just cause they're that good.

Exactly.

Sanitarium78
02-25-2010, 07:15 PM
There are already like 7 songs they do that are considered classics on every single tour they do. If that doesn't do the job then I don't know what the fans want. We just got a full 80s set on the last tour. It's time to bring out The Wicker man, Paschendale, The Clansman, and other "new" maiden songs that i consider to be classics just cause they're that good.

What most fans want is more of the old stuff. Only about 25 percent of the audience who goes to see them at a given show now in the US really know and want the new stuff. Maiden still sells most of their concert tickets based on what they accomplished in the 80s. Yes, we did get a US tour full of 80s stuff recently. But it was a tour that many in the US, including myself didn't get a chance to see them on because they didn't come to their particular area.

I love their new stuff as well, they have a lot of new classics but these songs aren't as classic as the stuff they recorded from '82-'88. There are more fans out there I think who feel that way than ones who want to hear the new stuff. Like I said in my other post Maiden is partly responsible for alienating some of their fanbase in the US by doing limitted shows and playing new stuff all the time. It doesn't matter how good the new stuff is when most people go to see a classic rock band they wanna hear the classics.

Maiden33
02-25-2010, 07:25 PM
Oh god, not another "what the fans really want" setlist debate.

Regardless of what the fans want, I hope Maiden has the good sense to take public opinion with a grain of salt. To be honest here, Maiden could play nearly any song and get a great crowd response, and I think they know that. I hope that the decision to exclude a song from a set list never includes the reasoning: "well, it's not that popular". Especially for a band like Maiden. Maiden seriously only have 6 songs (NOTB, RTTH, Trooper, Hallowed, FOTD, Iron Maiden) that are considered "essential", and they're not even really hits - they're just "classics". They should want to take advantage of their freedom and depth of catalog rather than give us the same secondary "hits" all the time.

God damn it, you have 14 albums worth of great material (at least 5-7 of which are considered undeniable classics among their fans) and a fanbase that actually KNOWS most of it. Take advantage of that and the fact that you're not a band with 12 or 13 big hits that can never leave a setlist, leaving you only a short amount of space for variation.

TonyD
02-25-2010, 08:20 PM
Oh god, not another "what the fans really want" setlist debate.

Regardless of what the fans want, I hope Maiden has the good sense to take public opinion with a grain of salt. To be honest here, Maiden could play nearly any song and get a great crowd response, and I think they know that. I hope that the decision to exclude a song from a set list never includes the reasoning: "well, it's not that popular". Especially for a band like Maiden. Maiden seriously only have 6 songs (NOTB, RTTH, Trooper, Hallowed, FOTD, Iron Maiden) that are considered "essential", and they're not even really hits - they're just "classics". They should want to take advantage of their freedom and depth of catalog rather than give us the same secondary "hits" all the time.

God damn it, you have 14 albums worth of great material (at least 5-7 of which are considered undeniable classics among their fans) and a fanbase that actually KNOWS most of it. Take advantage of that and the fact that you're not a band with 12 or 13 big hits that can never leave a setlist, leaving you only a short amount of space for variation.
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