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ravenheart
01-01-2010, 05:56 AM
The last couple of years I did a top 10 of metal and a top 10 of rock. This time it's a top 20 of both because the really good metal outweighed the really good rock.

Ripper haters and Baroness lovers bitch away: http://www.jukeboxmetal.com/2010/editors-top-twenty-of-2009/

DethMaiden
01-01-2010, 06:32 AM
Well, I can honestly say I didn't hear that Ripper album because I heard such horrible things about it and because Beyond Fear is such an abortion, so I'll reserve my judgment but assume that I disagree. And for all that doom metal on there, I'm shocked - shocked - that the new My Dying Bride didn't make your list. For shame, sir. :bouville:

ravenheart
01-01-2010, 06:37 AM
I liked it. A lot. But it was just more of the same where they're concerned, whereas things like the new Katatonia were a total advancement.

They probably do deserve a spot on the honourable mentions list, though.

There are also a few things I haven't actually heard yet, which might explain their absence.

Maiden33
01-01-2010, 03:54 PM
Holy shit? Ripper album at #1? I barely made it through one listen.

ravenheart
01-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Yep. I didn't enjoyed a CD more last year than Play My Game. Different, great playing/players, varied, one of Ripper's best vocal performances so far. Loved it.

And live he was outstanding.

jhdeity
01-02-2010, 01:09 PM
WOW. It's hard to take anything you say seriously after seeing that list. Just being straight up.

ChildrenofSodom
01-02-2010, 05:38 PM
I downloaded Play My Game. Not bad. I like Ripper, just wish he would work with better musicians/write better lyrics.

ravenheart
01-03-2010, 05:18 AM
WOW. It's hard to take anything you say seriously after seeing that list. Just being straight up.

Given that I don't expect you to have heard 80% of the albums on that list, this is meaningless. Straight up, too.

These were chosen from nearly 200 albums I listened to this year (and reviewed about 150 of them), and believe or not, there were better ones than Mastodon, Megadeth, H&H, Dream Theater, AIC, Slayer and all the other obvious choices.

ravenheart
01-03-2010, 05:21 AM
I downloaded Play My Game. Not bad. I like Ripper, just wish he would work with better musicians/write better lyrics.

His next collaboration will be out in a few weeks. Charred Walls of The Damned, with Richard Christy and Steve DiGeorgio.

jhdeity
01-03-2010, 06:27 AM
I think the one that had me on the floor was Europe. You are talking about the one hit wonder with the worst use of keyboards in the history of modern music right?

Who knew these clowns were still around, let alone making music anyone under the age of 60 would want to hear? Maybe they're big across the pond but in America they are the punchline of jokes and only played by band geeks at basketball games.

You mention Alice in Chains and I can't see how anyone couldn't get the soul and emotion on that cd. Well, maybe I can because it took me 10 listens but once I got it I was enthralled.

I only heard about 1/3rd of tte cd's you listed but some never even got a 2nd listen due to horrific lyrics or just being boring and plodding.

Is there anything on that list that is fast or has some balls and you would recommend to a Slayer fan?

ravenheart
01-03-2010, 06:43 AM
I think the one that had me on the floor was Europe. You are talking about the one hit wonder with the worst use of keyboards in the history of modern music right?

Who knew these clowns were still around, let alone making music anyone under the age of 60 would want to hear? Maybe they're big across the pond but in America they are the punchline of jokes and only played by band geeks at basketball games.

First of all, thanks for backing up what you were thinking instead of taking the all-too-common "You don't agree with me, therefore you suck" angle.

Not only are Europe still around (admittedly after a lengthy gap), they've made three great albums in a row between 2005 and 2009, with the newest being the best, they're way heavier now, far less keyboards, and they've fantastic live.

They'll always been a joke for their '80s material (most of those songs still sound like shit live, even heavied up, and their crowds are utterly hilarious - no clue the '80s have ended), but they're a totally different prospect now. Listen before judging.

You mention Alice in Chains and I can't see how anyone couldn't get the soul and emotion on that cd. Well, maybe I can because it took me 10 listens but once I got it I was enthralled.

Absolutely agree that as far as genuine feeling in the writing goes, this was UP THERE. But, I just felt they could have done it to a lot better music. The songs were some of the most heartfelt and genuine I've heard all year, but the music was pretty boring. And I'm a huge AIC fan. I saw them on the tiny European promo tour before the album came out, in London at a small venue, and they were fucking incredible.

I only heard about 1/3rd of tte cd's you listed but some never even got a 2nd listen due to horrific lyrics or just being boring and plodding.

Is there anything on that list that is fast or has some balls and you would recommend to a Slayer fan?

Yes: Suicidal Angels (German, second album) and Savage Messiah (English, debut). Best thrash albums I've heard all year, ahead of Lazarus A.D. and Kreator. And how stoked am I that they're the supporting bill on the Killfest in Europe :D

And from my "honourable mentions" list, try the Obituary, Paradox, Ravage and Tenet ones. Tenet, if you hadn't heard, is Steve Souza, original Testament vocalist from when they were called Legacy, and the second Exodus vocalist, plus Jed Simon and Byron Stroud from Strapping Young Lad, Glen Alvelais from Forbidden and Gene Hoglan.

As for the rest:

If you're not really a doom fan you can write off Katatonia, The 11th Hour, Jupiter Society, Candlemass, Paradise Lost, Forsaken, Nomad Son, Semlah and Memory Driven. It's been an absolutely unbelievable year for doom music, but if you're not a fan, obviously you won't agree.

Naughty Boys and Innocent Rosie are sleaze-rock, both Swedish, Nightvision are English hard rock. Gunfire 76 is Wednesday 13 and Todd Youth from The Chelsea Smiles doing old school '70s rock (Ramones, Alice Cooper, KISS etc.) - originals, not covers.

jhdeity
01-03-2010, 07:24 AM
Cool deal. Checking out Suicidal Angels now. Definitely my kinda stuff

Maiden33
01-03-2010, 10:03 AM
I think the one that had me on the floor was Europe. You are talking about the one hit wonder with the worst use of keyboards in the history of modern music right?

Who knew these clowns were still around, let alone making music anyone under the age of 60 would want to hear? Maybe they're big across the pond but in America they are the punchline of jokes and only played by band geeks at basketball games.

Dude, have you ever even heard more Europe than The Final Countdown?

SomewhereInTime72
01-03-2010, 12:16 PM
The Final Countdown is awesome, first of all.