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Polock91
11-07-2009, 10:22 PM
This show had to be one of the greatest death metal shows I've seen in a long time. Aside from the first band, every single group that played were incredible, tight, brutal, epic, anything you can think of to describe a good death metal band describes this tour.

Swashbuckle couldn't make the date, unfortunately, so they were replaced by a deathcore band called Rose Funeral. I'm not the biggest deathcore (or any core, honestly) fan, so, I just kind of went in the back while they played. Between songs, almost everyone in the crowd, at least 90%, were booing at them. The only people that enjoyed them were the ninja-kickers in their "pit." Kinda pathetic that that's what a mosh pit is on STRONG ISLAND.... But the story doesn't end there. At the end of their set, their guitar player and drummer were going to security and having them escort the people they saw booing at them. Some bands really need to learn to take criticism; If that's how you're going to respond to people who don't like you, you don't deserve the fans you have. The guitar player was actually starting fights with one of the kids.... Pathetic......

ANYWAY, after them came this ridiculous band from Canada called Augury. I had listened to them previously, but I didn't know their material, so, unfortunately, there will be no setlist from them. Same goes for The Amenta, who were brutal, even though their sound was muddy. I don't think the sound guy even had the guitar player's volume up at all. If you've never listened to either of those bands, check them out, they're both great.

Now, onto Warbringer. This was probably my 3rd time seeing them. Their set hasn't really changed much. A couple of my friends actually stayed behind and got to smoke a little bit with them, a couple of the guys from Augury, and a couple guys from Decrepit Birth. The set was as follows:

Jackal
Living in a Whirlwind
Severed Reality
Total War
Scorched Earth
Beneath the Waves
Combat Shock

This was my first time seeing Decrepit Birth, and it certainly won't be my last. Those guys know how to put on a show. They remind me of a modern and slightly more technical Death. The vocalist is one of the most down-to-Earth guys you'll ever meet. He was sellin the merch, so if anybody is interested in meeting him, he'll be there. The set was as follows:

Living Doorway
The Infestation
Polarity (New Song; title track of the new record)
Condemned to Nothingness
Diminished Between Worlds
Symbiosis
Prelude to the Apocalypse

There is nothing else that needs to be said about the next and final band other than what the main man said himself. "What can I say? Vader has returned." Great show, decent set, can't wait to see them again. Piotr is also one of the coolest guys out there. I met him as he walking throughout the merch area. The entrance to the backstage was right around there, so, he was around for a little while. But, that doesn't matter. Vader's set was as follows (a couple songs are missing):

Devilizer
Sothis
Rise of the Undead
Never Speak my Name
Anger - I think...
Wings
Between Day And Night
Shadowfear
Carnal
Black to the Blind
Silent Empire
Dark Age
----ENCORE----
THIS IS THE WAR

Thanks to girny777 for filling in the parts that I was missing

Great show. I cannot wait to see Vader with Overkill next year.

mankvill
11-07-2009, 10:28 PM
Wings :fist:

They better be playing Cold Demons!

Fires Of Sedition
11-08-2009, 02:14 AM
Thank you!!

That "?" song better be Incarnation!

JuuKun
11-08-2009, 05:46 AM
Wow, even if it's missing a few songs that looks like a really damn short set, what the fuck? I'm not as upset over missing this now, I think.

But, encoring with This Is The War is awesome. My favorite Vader song.

girnny777
11-08-2009, 06:39 AM
Allow me to fill in the gaps.

Devilizer
Sothis
Rise of the Undead
Never Speak my Name
Anger - I think...
Wings
Between Day And Night
Shadowfear
Carnal
Black to the Blind
Silent Empire
Dark Age
----ENCORE----
THIS IS THE WAR

I should also say that early on in the show Piotr said he was having some voice problems so that may be why they played a short set. Also Vogg was having guitar troubles for the first few songs, but he was alright by the third song or so. This was my fouth time seeing Vader and once again they blew everybody away. I can't wait for their return.

makethemsuffer12
11-08-2009, 07:06 AM
Jesus Christ Rose Funeral was the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Not only were the band faggots themselves, their fans were fucking douches. But thankfully, alot of them got kicked out. Though there was one good thing out of there set, as there were these guys doing the YMCA and ballerina moves in the middle of the pit :lol: Those dude were awesome. Augury, yet very talented, were quite boring IMO. Same goes for The Amenta. One thing that I thought was funny about their set was that when their "keyboardist" yelled out it was as loud, if not louder than the PA from where I was standing :lol: Finally Warbringer came on and just fucking dominated the place. They were the main reason I came out to this show, and I'm damn glad I did. John Kevill is a real nice guy as well. Then Decripit Birth came on, and although I'm not really into them, they put on a good show, though I was a bit bored at times. After them came Vader, who kicked all sorts of ass. I don't really listen to them, but they were great live. Of course when Piotr introduced the band members, there was a Vitek chant when he introduced Vogg, whice was nice. One thing that I though was stupid though was that the vocals were kinda buried in the mix until the last song before the encore. Overall a really good show... except for Rose Funeral who was possibly the worst piece of shit band I have seen live. Fucking posers.

mastodon421
11-08-2009, 07:14 AM
Rose Funeral is one of the worst bands around. I am very sorry that you guys had to sit through them. I am not a Swashbuckle fan either but at least they are better than fuckin Rose Funeral. Rose Funeral is one of the bands that gives deathcore a really bad name.

SerpentineVIVIVI
11-08-2009, 07:48 AM
Jesus Christ Rose Funeral was the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Not only were the band faggots themselves, their fans were fucking douches. But thankfully, alot of them got kicked out. Though there was one good thing out of there set, as there were these guys doing the YMCA and ballerina moves in the middle of the pit :lol: Those dude were awesome. Augury, yet very talented, were quite boring IMO. Same goes for The Amenta. One thing that I thought was funny about their set was that when their "keyboardist" yelled out it was as loud, if not louder than the PA from where I was standing :lol: Finally Warbringer came on and just fucking dominated the place. They were the main reason I came out to this show, and I'm damn glad I did. John Kevill is a real nice guy as well. Then Decripit Birth came on, and although I'm not really into them, they put on a good show, though I was a bit bored at times. After them came Vader, who kicked all sorts of ass. I don't really listen to them, but they were great live. Of course when Piotr introduced the band members, there was a Vitek chant when he introduced Vogg, whice was nice. One thing that I though was stupid though was that the vocals were kinda buried in the mix until the last song before the encore. Overall a really good show... except for Rose Funeral who was possibly the worst piece of shit band I have seen live. Fucking posers.

+1

Edit: I was gonna write a review for this, but this guy beat me to it. I'll write it when I get back to Bing, don't got time. Makethemsuffer summed it up damned well though :D

mankvill
11-08-2009, 10:41 AM
there was a Vitek chant when he introduced Vogg,

:confused:

makethemsuffer12
11-08-2009, 10:50 AM
:confused:

Because Vogg is in Decapitated, so it was a sign of respect for their fallen drummer.

Rose Funeral is one of the bands that gives deathcore a really bad name.

Like it had a good name to begin with...

mankvill
11-08-2009, 10:57 AM
Because Vogg is in Decapitated, so it was a sign of respect for their fallen drummer.

oh yeah! I forgot that he was.

JuuKun
11-08-2009, 11:04 AM
Because Vogg is in Decapitated

As well as being Vitek's older brother.

mastodon421
11-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Like it had a good name to begin with...


I know it doesn't have a good rep to begin it with but i think there a handful bands that actually do it justice. Rose Funeral not one of those bands at all.

the chewbacca defense
11-08-2009, 05:13 PM
Rose Funeral is one of the worst bands around. I am very sorry that you guys had to sit through them. I am not a Swashbuckle fan either but at least they are better than fuckin Rose Funeral. Rose Funeral is one of the bands that gives deathcore a really bad name.

you gotta really feel bad for the people seeing this tour in Dec, since Warbringer joins the Megadeth tour, and Rose Funeral takes their place. And nice to see that they're changing their setlist (vader i mean)

mastodon421
11-08-2009, 05:22 PM
you gotta really feel bad for the people seeing this tour in Dec, since Warbringer joins the Megadeth tour, and Rose Funeral takes their place. And nice to see that they're changing their setlist (vader i mean)

That is just awful for those fans.Losing an awesome band like Warbringer and getting a shitastic band like Rose Funeral is kind of tragic.

the chewbacca defense
11-08-2009, 06:07 PM
That is just awful for those fans.Losing an awesome band like Warbringer and getting a shitastic band like Rose Funeral is kind of tragic.

yep a friend of mine on another board mentioned this (he lives in Raligh NC.

KvltOvPersonality
11-08-2009, 06:34 PM
I was there and it was fucking awesome! I wish they played Litany and more of The Art of War.:rocker:

IrritatedTrout
11-08-2009, 06:47 PM
Some dude posted this story about Rose Funeral at another metal forum:

Last night, I was at the Vader show. To my chagrin, I find out that a lame deathcore band, Rose Funeral, is opening. They are being heckled beyond belief, people are asking them to suck their shits, how it feels to be ***, etc. The guitarist of the band is trying to be a tough guy so he spits into the crowd. The spit almost hit me so I yell, "Wow you're a tough guy." sarcastically as the song ends.

He decides to build even more credit so he says, "I'm going to kill you." So I respond, "Try me." This continues for the rest of the set. Once the set ends, he runs off stage. A minute later, two big security guards escort me outside of the venue. I try to get to the manager to talk to him about the nonsense but he won't here it.

So, I begin to walk home. As a turn the corner I run into a group of Vader fans speaking polish, I assume. They see my God Dethroned shirt and I tell them about the bullshit the venue pulled. As I am talking to them, I see the guitarist from Rose Funeral.

I walked directly to him and ask him what his problem is. The first thing he tells me is that, "I'd fight you but I'm too mature and it's NYC. I don't want to be arrested. He starts to bitch and moan about how they get no respect and what not and how I deserved to be kicked out of the venue. I told him, "If you were kicking people out because they didn't like you, the venue would be empty."

After I say that, he motions over two of his band-mates. The first is a 5'6 bassist who is morbidly obese. My friends and I dubbed him, Porky, due to his resemblance to Porky the pig if he had gauges. The other is a roughly 6'5 person who I'd honestly not want to fuck with. Using his allies he tries to get in face hoping to get a three-on-one fight started.

As this happens, the Vader fans from before slam into them like it was an accident. He threatens to kill all of us. I asked him if it was a threat. He says yes. But goes back to the it's New York people are around excuse.

This neutralizes situation and it turns into a "he-said she-said" argument. The guitarist puts his hand out to shake hands and I say, "fuck you! You had me kicked out of the venue because you SPIT on ME." Porky did not like that.

Out of nowhere he comes out into me face yelling at me. I laugh. He gets really pissed off looks at me and then walks away. I walk away as well saying I had enough. I attempt to talk to the manager again.

This time he finally comes out and he is a 5'4 Asian fellow. I begin to yell at him telling him how he aided a band who threatened to kill me and how they attempted to jump me. I told him unless he lets me back in I will seek legal recourse. He tells me to "call my lawyer."

The drummer from Rose Funeral overhears this. He goes over to me and explains how the band has been getting laughed at every night. He also explains that the guitarist is an asshole who can't help acting that way. He tell basically tell me that as long as I don't do something like call the cops, he'll get me back in.

15 minutes pass, I know I missed Augury's set and now I see the band outside. I get to meet them and talk to them for a couple minutes. Eventually, the manager comes out and tells me to come back in and apologizes.

When I return, everyone who was around me tell me how they kicked out for no reason and etc. They then give me my spot back front and center. I see the rest of the show and have a great time.

SerpentineVIVIVI
11-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Ok, I am back at Bing and relaxed enough, it's time for the review. I normally wouldn't care to give my opinion since the setlist has already been posted, but the bands were SO damned polarizing, and nothing has been covered fully in depth yet. So to tread in!

First off, the venue is awesome. Kind of like the Fillmore but a little better actually, I did not expect it to be that good. Not that many crowd surfers at all (but then again that might have been due to the bands), nice aesthetics, and cheap merch. So anyway, I went with makethemsuffer12, and we got barricade with some friends of ours and I bought a Vader shirt and a Warbringer shirt (the latter of which I'm wearing right now :horns:). The place is EMPTY, maybe like 30ish people, horrid turnout so far. Then, they go on.

Their name is Rose Funeral. They came on with their stupid gauges, gay tight clothes, and overall retarded stage persona. The singer was the biggest Suicide Silence frontfag ever, and the guitarists looked like JFAG rejects. The bassist was some fat Asian that looked like he came straight out of a scene kid White Castle, and to not get anymore personal about them and to say the least, they DID NOT belong there and that was apparent immediately. Then they began to play their music. It was god awful, the most cliche deathcore ever, and as deathcore is awful to begin with, it was even worse this time around. The singer moved around in that gay fashion and had seizures on stage while pig squealing and "growling". I wanted to jump the barricade and beat the shit out of him, but I decided to watch instead. Immediately after their first song ended, this guy in a white Warbringer T-shirt bagged on them, and I mean BAGGED. He yelled things like "You fucking suck!" or "Suck my dick faggots!" and they only got worse. The band chose to ignore it, for they could do nothing and they saw how much they were being despised. During their songs, the guy did the YMCA dance/ballerina moves, and it was oh too funny. The guitarist (being the tough guy faggot that most deathcore people are), picked a fight with a guy right behind me because he kept on yelling "Fuck deathcore!", and he made the sign that he was going to die and mouthed multiple times "I'm going to fucking kill you". A scrawny mother fucker threatening him as well, it was quite amusing to see a guy who looked like someone shot him in the ears then put earrings in there threaten multiple people. Once everyone started joining the hate parade he shut the fuck up and continued to do that gay deathcore jump/"headbang".

This band deserves two paragraphs solely for the reason that this band epitomized why I want "core" to die out fast as hell, especially the death kind of core. They are ridiculously stupid, they think they're tough when they're just a bunch of scrawny fags or obese fags. This is a direct ode to mankvill, you can not like Lamb of God's music all you want, but just watch these guys man. And yes, I'm trying to compromise here ;). You want tough guy brocore who are going to fuck up their "wives" after and wear wifebeaters/race in their tractors for corn? See these guys open up for a crowd they shouldn't be. These guys were too funny, and provided a very polarizing amusing/aggravating time.

Onwards, Augury were technically beast, especially the bassist/drummer. This was literally the only band I've ever seen live where the vocals/guitars were not the prominent part of the music. I am not undermining the bass/drums in any other metal band, that's not the point. But it's just well known that the guitars especially are the driving force, as well as the vox. But here, the spotlight was easily on the bassist, who was one of the best I've ever seen. The drummer was rock solid too, and he played in the following band as well, so a massive props to there technicality. Also, super note-worthy that the singer/guitarist pulled an absolutely SICK solo at the end of the final song by tapping on the pickups and playing flawlessly. Sorry to say though, the music is not my thing and it was kind of boring :(. Just my opinion though.

Next were The Amenta. Only comments I have for these guys are they are incredibly boring. Their music is mediocre, and the singer tries to be "black metal" so hard and fails just as hard. The keyboardist was getting really mad during the set because the vox were really low and he was yelling the lyrics sometimes as well, and as makethemsuffer pointed out earlier, it was hilarious that he was louder than the singer. The Warbringer guy mentioned above was doing the dances to them as well, so that only fueled his fire. They were pretty bad, and put me to sleep.

FINALLY, Warbringer came on, and it is very note-worthy to say that 10 minutes before their set John Kevill came on the stage for whatever reason and the crowd went nuts and started a Warbringer chant, and he looked mad surprised/thrilled. I've never seen a band get such praise before they officially hit the stage before, and it was great to see these guys get such a great response. When they got on, they tore the place up. Kevill is one of the best modern frontmen around these days, he has absolute dominance over the stage. He is the fucking man, simply put (and I made that clear to him by yelling that throughout the set :D). The band were incredible as well, and it is clear that they are doing what they are doing because they love it and have a fucking great time doing that. They are all down to earth as hell, and deserve all the success they have/will hopefully obtain. After the set John came down to the barricades and shook everyones hand/gave high fives, and he said they would be back in the spring with someone confidential. Definitely gonna be there to support the almighty Warbringer!

Decrepit Birth were after the mayhem, and honestly makethemsuffer pinned it, nothing else need be said. Good performance, technically talented, but oh so boring song wise/performance. Singer is very nice though, while I did not really enjoy them he did the same thing John did and I pounded him and told him he had a good show, very down to earth. Wish them luck for what they do though it isn't my scene.

Once Vader came, it went crazy once again. They are so ridiculously confident it's awesome. It reeks through their performance, Piotr sings great even with a sickness, and his mastery of the whammy is impressive regardless of the wankery. The only very unfortunate thing was his vocals were very low for halfway of the set, and they only raised it around the middle :(. Pawel is a ridiculous drummer, and he has a total dominance of the kit, and it was very impressive. The band was mad tight overall, and all the songs transferred very well live. The new songs were great, can't even pick a favorite. The old songs were exactly what I thought they would be. Carnal had to be one of my favorites of the night, I felt the venue shake when they played that one. Wings/Silent Empire should get MUCH credit as well, as brutal as the studio versions :shred:. After Vader were done we went to the merch area and John Kevill and John Laux were hanging out talking to people. I talked to Laux and told him he had a great performance, and told him to headline with playing an actual headlining set :lol:. He laughed and told me he wanted to headline, and they would try and get a slot. You could tell he was really drunk, so I left him alone and yelled to Kevill one last time "You're the fucking man!" and he laughed and gave me the horns. Fantastic show, made me hate deathcore 100x more, and made me love Warbringer/Vader 100x more. Roddy out :D

SerpentineVIVIVI
11-08-2009, 06:58 PM
I just read that story, that's ridiculous, I was right in front of that guy, I mentioned him in my post. What faggots, I'm real glad he got back in, he definitely deserved to. I hope everyone but the drummer in Rose Funeral get beat the shit out of, the drummer is clearly not an asshole and just has really bad taste in music.

DethMaiden
11-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Some dude posted this story about Rose Funeral at another metal forum:

Wow, glad he got back in at least but that's still absolutely ridiculous that he got kicked out. A kid from my high school used to be in Rose Funeral. They are horrible.

the chewbacca defense
11-08-2009, 07:12 PM
wow, what a bunch of assholes.

Davemeistro
11-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Is Rose Funeral going to permanently replace Swashbuckle for the rest of the tour or is it just this one show?

the chewbacca defense
11-08-2009, 07:22 PM
as far as i know, swashbuckle rejoins this tour in dec i think or whenever the megadeth tour starts, cause thats when warbringer leaves . I think Swashbuckle is currently on Tour from Afar

Davemeistro
11-08-2009, 09:15 PM
Shit... I dont know, Rose Funeral's myspace doesnt show a St. Paul date, and Swashbuckles does... Ill be pissed if I dont get to see Swashbuckle and get fucked with these assholes...

Fires Of Sedition
11-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Holy shit. Sounds worse than white chapel. If rose funeral even get a bead of sweat on me I'm going to spit loogies all over them. For the Tulsa date they have Success Will Write Apocalypse Across The Sky replacing Swashbuckle and rose funeral replacing Warbringer

EDIT: Just looked at pictures of rose funeral...didn't listen to their music...and I fucking hate them.

mankvill
11-08-2009, 09:35 PM
Some dude posted this story about Rose Funeral at another metal forum:

AMAZING

Fuck Deathcore.

mankvill
11-08-2009, 09:37 PM
This band deserves two paragraphs solely for the reason that this band epitomized why I want "core" to die out fast as hell, especially the death kind of core. They are ridiculously stupid, they think they're tough when they're just a bunch of scrawny fags or obese fags. This is a direct ode to mankvill, you can not like Lamb of God's music all you want, but just watch these guys man. And yes, I'm trying to compromise here ;). You want tough guy brocore who are going to fuck up their "wives" after and wear wifebeaters/race in their tractors for corn? See these guys open up for a crowd they shouldn't be. These guys were too funny, and provided a very polarizing amusing/aggravating time.

Lamb of God is fucking Iron Maiden compared to deathcore faggots.

mankvill
11-08-2009, 09:40 PM
TRIPLE POST! And:

After the set John came down to the barricades and shook everyones hand/gave high fives, and he said they would be back in the spring with someone confidential. Definitely gonna be there to support the almighty Warbringer!

Overkill
Vader
God Dethroned
Warbringer

?

:horns:

Fires Of Sedition
11-08-2009, 09:55 PM
TRIPLE POST! And:



Overkill
Vader
God Dethroned
Warbringer

?

:horns:

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!

mankvill
11-08-2009, 10:01 PM
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?!

...

well the first 3 are confirmed

Fires Of Sedition
11-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Wooo! :lovedup:

SerpentineVIVIVI
11-09-2009, 05:11 AM
Lamb of God is fucking Iron Maiden compared to deathcore faggots.

Agreed. And if they do pop on the Overkill tour, my head will go BOOM. :shred:

mastodon421
11-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Jesus Christ I just read that shit about that guy and Rose Funeral that is awful and just flat out stupid. Those guys must be the biggest bunch of douchebags ever. I have only met 2 deathcore band members the drummer from Sucide Silence and the singer of Winds Of Plague and they were both really nice guys but clearly most deathcore bands/fans are complete douches.

makethemsuffer12
11-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Wow. I am honestly amazed after hearin that guys experience with Rose Funeral. I believe I was right next to the guy that wrote that. Those guys are the single worst thing I have ever experinced at a concert of sorts. But I will admit that was really cool that the drummer let him back in. He was the one guy in the band that didn't look like a deathcore fag either.